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Joey Christensen
post Jul 22 2009, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(monochrome @ Jul 22 2009, 07:12 AM)
everyone, would like to know whether i can claim my sick leave and medical expense during my 1 month notice??

i feel like infected with swine flu... rclxub.gif
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Anda boleh. Sila rujuk sumber yang diberi oleh "aurora97".

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Added on July 22, 2009, 9:32 am
QUOTE(danieltan @ Jul 21 2009, 06:04 PM)
so that mean i need to tender my resign letter to them?

today is my 2nd day to work. probation under 6 month

but after 1st day i realize been lose interest on programming field.
anyway i planning to early switch different field.

i more toward liking support stuff since my industrial training and my hobby. in other simple word, just try out of programming job thing. find that my solving problem not strong
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Yu may need not to resign but reassign to other department within the same company.

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This post has been edited by Joey Christensen: Aug 6 2009, 09:27 AM
monochrome
post Aug 1 2009, 12:07 PM

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wanna ask sth....

few days ago i did my exit interview with HR dept ppl. in the form need to company name , i got write lah...is this a must to write coz the person in charge insist that...

so then i wrote that she started asking the details..

i want to know whether can she use such tactics coz the way she ask like forcing me to give her answer..i dont like it..it also shown my weakness when answering her question and made me look lack of confidence coz i didnt not prepare prior the interview.

and can she just provide those info to my director even though it was stated P&C.
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QUOTE(monochrome @ Aug 1 2009, 12:07 PM)
wanna ask sth....

few days ago i did my exit interview with HR dept ppl. in the form need to company name , i got write lah...is this a must to write coz the person in charge insist that...

so then i wrote that she started asking the details..

i want to know whether can she use such tactics coz the way she ask like forcing me to give her answer..i dont like it..it also shown my weakness when answering her question and made me look lack of confidence coz i didnt not prepare prior the interview.

and can she just provide those info to my director even though it was stated P&C.
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I don't see why do you need to answer any question even during an Exit Interview, well what you can do is keep quiet and waste her time or you can answer. (correct me if i am wrong)

I personally don't see anything wrong with it, no matter what you answer on that day... in the end you will still resign and they have no choice but to let u go. (correct me if i am wrong)

Exit interviews, I PERSONALLY think and i don't speak for anyone else but myself... I think is used to understand why staff leave the company, it is also a final ditch to try and retain good staff. Otherwise, why is HR wasting time to conduct an Exit interview unless of course its standard procedure.



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post Aug 5 2009, 08:42 PM

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i've read "Resign without giving sufficient notice" thread...

now i'm in a screwed up MNC with a haywired management... i'm thru with the co. d... don gip a damn... okie, here's my Q...

if the co. sacked me, do i still get my pay for the days i've worked in de co. for tat month? wat if i did something wrong and what if i did not do anything wrong? which way still i do get my pay rite?

my notice of termination is a f***ing long 3 months! duH~ doh.gif

and i'm not gonna pay a single sen to de co. and now wondering what's my best option to leave fast yet getting my pay? hehe...

thx and would appreciate any feedback!

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post Aug 5 2009, 10:32 PM

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aurora97,

i heard that's the standard procedure...during the interview i was like revenging, kept telling bad things about my HOD....she was like asking what comment to add.. actually if she didn't ask which company i'm going , i won't stop criticizing my HOD.

i was a bit lost track after she kept asking me my next co. details , post all those stuffs.. actually i wasn't willing to provide a single clue of my next co.
i think keeping quiet it's not really good...any good answers to give?? for e.g?

i feel i did really bad in it..gotta learn from this exp..
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QUOTE(monochrome @ Aug 5 2009, 10:32 PM)
aurora97,

i heard that's the standard procedure...during the interview i was like revenging, kept telling bad things about my HOD....she was like asking what comment to add.. actually if she didn't ask which company i'm going , i won't stop criticizing my HOD.

i was a bit lost track after she kept asking me my next co. details , post all those stuffs.. actually i wasn't willing to provide a single clue of my next co.
i think keeping quiet it's not really good...any good answers to give?? for e.g?

i feel i did really bad in it..gotta learn from this exp..

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well look on the bright side, at least it was not an evaluation on your KPI?

that said no matter how you did, regardless whether u gave the most perfect, honest answer, lied, cheat, conned, scammed the interviewer, the conclusion would be the same no matter how Fantastic or how outrageously your performed..

You will still get to resign, that all you wanted.

I have given u all the insane ideas (may not be accurate, complete, tested or tried) but you should use it to your advantage. Advise are free (probably even loaded with rubbish) but how u use it makes it priceless.

This post has been edited by aurora97: Aug 6 2009, 09:25 AM
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post Aug 10 2009, 11:20 AM

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Please advise..


Recently i'm resigning from this company and not completed my service years that i'm actually have to as in the bond agreement.
So i have to pay the training cost..thats ok.
Q is do i hv to payback for all the overseas meal allowances and flight cost during i'm assigned to construction site in oversea?
Bond stated that 'approved training programme' and 'training institution'...they claimed that thy assigned me to construction site part of OJT but no detail training programme given...
Thanks...
Joey Christensen
post Aug 10 2009, 12:38 PM

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Not a single soul can tell yu the proper way of addressing your concerns. Best bet is to swing it to your HRM Dept.

Regards, Joey

p.s: Be it OJT or not, it's better for yu to clarify this via your HRM Dept.
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post Aug 10 2009, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Aug 10 2009, 12:38 PM)
Not a single soul can tell yu the proper way of addressing your concerns. Best bet is to swing it to your HRM Dept.

Regards, Joey

p.s: Be it OJT or not, it's better for yu to clarify this via your HRM Dept.
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already talk to HR manager but seem not much helping...she asked to write an appeal letter regarding the payment and she also reject it..no point for me..

most of my ex-colleague advise me find a lawyer...its ok?what are the effect in the future?


Added on August 10, 2009, 2:21 pm
Is there stated in the labour law that employee hv to pay back the oversea meal allowance starting from the first day working to company if they resigned? My previous HR manager (1st) said that the meal allowance is for "wang kesusahan berada di luar negara"...

FYI, now i'm dealing with 3rd HR manager for this resignation matter..

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Hi quick question. Is there such a thing as Tax issues when an employee quits middle of the month? Apparently there are no tax paperwork needed if an employee resigns end of the month.
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Question of compensation by your future company to your present company for short resignation notice.

1. Does the future company pay the present company directly? or paying through you?
2. How to inform the future company to pay to individual directly rather than to pay the present company to avoid strain esp in the same industry.

Share your thoughts.
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QUOTE(sunny2009 @ Sep 9 2009, 08:39 PM)
Question of compensation by your future company to your present company for short resignation notice.

1. Does the future company pay the present company directly? or paying through you?
2. How to inform the future company to pay to individual directly rather than to pay the present company to avoid strain esp in the same industry.

Share your thoughts.
Thanks
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My thoughts...

1. You will need to known how much it will cost u to break the contract (2 months salary penalty ?)
2. Once you know the amount, go to your New Emloyer and ask them to issue you a cheque to the company base on the amount you enquire from your ex-company.
3. submit cheque and your free!

Note:
1. I am doutful whether a ur new emplyer will give you cash.
2. you will need to show proof. (possible ask your ex company to produce you a letter telling you that if you breach the contract you will need to pay XXX amount. (but don't tell them ur looking for a new job elsewhere)...
3. Just saying ur leaving 24 hrs and how much do u need.
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post Sep 19 2009, 10:51 AM

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What is the best time to resign ?
i meant early of the month, middle of the month or end of the month.
Does it really matter ?


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QUOTE(confusedguy2009 @ Sep 19 2009, 10:51 AM)
What is the best time to resign ?
i meant early of the month, middle of the month or end of the month.
Does it really matter ?
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My thoughts are...

It doesnt really matter when you resign but...

a) make sure you plan your annual leave proper (see whether you can use your AL to off set notice period)

b) whether ur collecting your salary by cheque or direct debit.. difference? well certain companies whom issue cheque, may only pay out salary at the end of the month... say if you terminate 1st Jan 200X, u don't want to end up coming back to the office and collecting your cheque (salary) on the 31st of Jan 200x do you?

c) Claims, when is the cut off date, unless your generous to the company perhaps u may want to forgo... otherwise take note.
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QUOTE(confusedguy2009 @ Sep 19 2009, 10:51 AM)
What is the best time to resign ?
i meant early of the month, middle of the month or end of the month.
Does it really matter ?
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It doesn't matter. Works either ways.

Regards, Joey
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post Sep 30 2009, 05:05 PM

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Hi.

Working as a probation staff.
Let say 3-6 months probation.

If wish to resign, can within 24 hours?
They can terminate me 24 hours as well?
No need 1 month notice?
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post Oct 1 2009, 01:37 AM

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If using annual leave to offset the notice period, for example notice period 2 months, after offset 1 month annual leave, the last date is shorten to one month. Do I get the pay for annual leave after one month or after 2 months?

And how is the pay calculated? based on total working days of that month or total number of days of that month?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Sep 30 2009, 05:05 PM)
Hi.

Working as a probation staff.
Let say 3-6 months probation.

If wish to resign, can within 24 hours?
They can terminate me 24 hours as well?
No need 1 month notice?
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It depends on your contract really...

Most Employments contracts are recycled, if u notice (well if u have changed jobs more than once and converted into permanent staff that is) the contract is generally the same with the only exception ur salary/increment.

QUOTE(alien0110 @ Oct 1 2009, 01:37 AM)
If using annual leave to offset the notice period, for example notice period 2 months, after offset 1 month annual leave, the last date is shorten to one month. Do I get the pay for annual leave after one month or after 2 months?

And how is the pay calculated? based on total working days of that month or total number of days of that month?

Thanks.
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Notice period 2 months
Annual leave collected (assuming u have earned it) = 1 month i.e. 30 days (wow entitled 30 days, even my boss only gets 21 days tongue.gif)

u need to understand Annual leave is an entitlement similar to paid leave, so basically if you use ur AL to offset the notice period... u will still get ur full salary.

there will be no adjustments to your salary.

Correct ime if i am wrong.
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Oct 1 2009, 04:34 PM)
It depends on your contract really...

Most Employments contracts are recycled, if u notice (well if u have changed jobs more than once and converted into permanent staff that is) the contract is generally the same with the only exception ur salary/increment.
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So, 24 hours can? biggrin.gif
Based on your knowledge and experiences notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Oct 1 2009, 10:19 PM)
So, 24 hours can?  biggrin.gif
Based on your knowledge and experiences  notworthy.gif
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Erm...looking at my own contract, u can tender 24 hrs notice but u end up paying the company X months salary for leaving prematurely dependi8ng on the notice period.

Example
Contract - 2 months notice

if u tender 24 hrs notice, u will have to pay a penalty equivalent the 2 months notice i.e. 2 months salary.

So u still have to refer back to your contract, see what it say about notice.

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