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post Feb 27 2010, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(silverstan @ Feb 23 2010, 12:53 PM)
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Hi Bro,

How much u pay for this watch?
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QUOTE(spie @ Feb 27 2010, 04:21 PM)
Hi Bro,

How much u pay for this watch?
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your Bro had give the ans on a eariler post here.. its RM31.5k!


Added on February 27, 2010, 9:22 pm
QUOTE(terencetoo @ Feb 27 2010, 03:06 PM)
guys anyone how how much is the new Tag Heuer Monaco V4 limited edition selling?
THe movement seems very different and unique ~ very impressive tech...

Google around cant see the actual price being display...

Monaco V4 Limited Edition

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This? if so.. suggested retail is in USD.
http://www.luxist.com/2009/09/21/tag-heuer...n-watch-80-000/

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post Feb 27 2010, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Feb 27 2010, 03:06 PM)
guys anyone how how much is the new Tag Heuer Monaco V4 limited edition selling?
THe movement seems very different and unique ~ very impressive tech...

Google around cant see the actual price being display...

Monaco V4 Limited Edition

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80k USD If im not mistaken biggrin.gif
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post Feb 27 2010, 10:15 PM

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wow..coz i found some crappie website saying US40k....OMG..now is as high as $80k per watch.....

Well, guess got to fall back to Calibre 16 day-date sad.gif

p/s: i though they are selling rm20k tongue.gif
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Feb 27 2010, 10:15 PM)
wow..coz i found some crappie website saying US40k....OMG..now is as high as $80k per watch.....

Well, guess got to fall back to Calibre 16 day-date sad.gif

p/s: i though they are selling rm20k tongue.gif
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well, its not going to be at RM20K..
it a limited edition of 150, plus its made of platinum 170grams of it!!!! more expensive than Gold.
how many Gold watches out there ~rm$20K, and I am not talking about gold plated.
on top of that its inhouse movement.
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post Feb 27 2010, 10:39 PM

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im quite envy their tech...especially the movement...the small tiny belt, piston movement and the outlook.

but the luxury price tag, guess not many ppl can afford.

Bro, i have some noob questions might need your expertise.

1) What is the diff between Tag Heuer Carrera Automatic Chronograph Day-Date VS Automatic Chronograph Tachymetre? (besides the day indicator)

2) What about the accuracy of the movement?
3) What i should look for when buying Tag?

Thanks alot
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Feb 27 2010, 10:39 PM)
Bro, i have some noob questions might need your expertise.

1) What is the diff between Tag Heuer Carrera Automatic Chronograph Day-Date VS Automatic Chronograph Tachymetre? (besides the day indicator)

2) What about the accuracy of the movement?
3) What i should look for when buying Tag?
1) no difference in terms of movement. iirc they using the same movement.
2) based off ETA 7750 should run +-5sec every 24hrs.
3) nothing on top of my head... if its a lemon and run out of specs u wouldn't be able to tell in the shop.

as for movement that run like that of an engine.. I think BRM do have a few.

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Thanks a lot!

I was quite picky in terms of the day-date vs the date.
I can't choose the right one to fit. (the day-date is extra rm2k+ just for the day indicator)
That day i saw Omega watches De Ville Hour Vision never know is so exp also smile.gif

Btw, what leather watches can i look for (i'm open for suggestion smile.gif )
Budget not more than rm10k


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Omega would cost more than a Tag for sure.

if U wanna get that kinda escapement that can allow a watch to run longer without service.
look for Sinn watches with Diapal. like Omega co-axle can run 8-10yrs b4 a service unlike regular tag.. u got to do it every 4-5yrs.

Zenith El Primero HW Chronograph MB (NIB) - is a good catch. its in steel but u can easily change it to a leather. in the further should U want to buy a steel bracelet (may it be Tag) they can cost easily above US$400.
http://www.collectorstime.com/new-watches.php

Jean Richard Paramount Chronograph (also on Collectorstime), iirc its on a inhouse movement JR1000 go back a few pages to read about it.

value for $$ try Guinand, still have $$ for another watch! on 7750, decorated with blue screws and its gold plated. read those WUS thread.
http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...d=63&Itemid=181
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=guinand
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=158528


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thanks for sharing,

this Guinand 40.50-03 look gorgeous biggrin.gif like it
but this Jean Richard Bressel Alternativ is quite exp brand i reckon....uhh there a lot of choices through Collectors. Will need some time to digest smile.gif

Yeah i realized Omega is more exp...but i see heaps of ppl heading to Tag counter for queries wired.

Not many ppl head for Titus as well...
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post Feb 28 2010, 12:19 AM

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Jean Richard if U were to get thru AD its priced along with TAG..
a Zenith is priced higher than a TAG.. maybe little higher than a Omega

Tag.. alots of marketing.. thus U do find alot of ppl going for it. for value, I would shy away from Tag.

Solvil et Titus‎ is swiss name but I think they were bought by HK group.. not all their watches carry a Swiss movement.

issue of Guinand , they make ordering hard.. but its worth the wait and go thru the pain. some say they are making case for Sinn.

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Yes patryn33 is right. The company Titus is under a HK group now.
IMHO, TH watches are something you buy to wear and enjoy it rather than thinking about the resale value tongue.gif
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post Feb 28 2010, 01:26 PM

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@Jr.Koh

True, wear watches that u like not for future resale value. (although there's certain % of guarantee reliable product value eg. brand)

I choose the watch by:

1) Design (fall in love for Monaco V4 biggrin.gif)
2) Brand
3) Price
4) Resale value (optional)

Btw how often does tag need to send for servicing/calibration? and approx how much it cost?

What about these brand?
1) Longines
2) Luminox

More brands can be found here smile.gif

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sad.gif Anyone here got any good recommendations? I'm looking for:

- automatic movement (preferably swiss)
- aviator style (something like Steinhart Nav-B Chrono series, altho chronograph is not compulsory)
- with date (even better if comes with day and date)
- 45mm and above (preferably in black PVD case)
- good lume
- leather strap
- preferably with power reserve indicator
- preferably with transparent case back

Checked out Getat cos I kinda like the marina militare style, but most of them don't have date except Parnis (which seems to have everything!). tongue.gif
I like this Steinhart model: Steinhart Nav-B Chrono 47mm
But unfortunately it doesn't come with black PVD case, no power reserve indicator and no transparent case back. sad.gif I don't really mind all these but does anyone have any recommendation for other brands?

Another things is I noticed there are quite a lot of automatic watches using Unitas movement. Are Unitas swiss or asian made? Some site says swiss unitas...some says asian unitas. So i'm confused. rclxub.gif

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post Feb 28 2010, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(khopl @ Feb 28 2010, 01:46 PM)
sad.gif Anyone here got any good recommendations? I'm looking for:

- automatic movement (preferably swiss)
- aviator style (something like Steinhart Nav-B Chrono series, altho chronograph is not compulsory)
- with date (even better if comes with day and date)
- 45mm and above (preferably in black PVD case)
- good lume
- leather strap
- preferably with power reserve indicator
- preferably with transparent case back

Checked out Getat cos I kinda like the marina militare style, but most of them don't have date except Parnis (which seems to have everything!).  tongue.gif
I like this Steinhart model: Steinhart Nav-B Chrono 47mm
But unfortunately it doesn't come with black PVD case, no power reserve indicator and no transparent case back.  sad.gif  I don't really mind all these but does anyone have any recommendation for other brands?

Another things is I noticed there are quite a lot of automatic watches using Unitas movement. Are Unitas swiss or asian made? Some site says swiss unitas...some says asian unitas. So i'm confused.   rclxub.gif

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IMHO, Steinhart is very good value for money watch. Great customer service by the owenr himself, My Gunther thumbup.gif I'm looking at 47mm nav-b automatic by the way tongue.gif
Asian made Unitas is made in China by Hangzhou and Sea-Gull.
http://horologycrazy.blogspot.com/2009/10/...h-movement.html
Though both of China and Swiss made almost look identical, but the QC is really a huge issue on China made ones. Price wise, an undecorated Swiss Unitas 6497/6498 movement alone will cost ~USD230 while the China ones a lot cheaper.
As partyn33 said earlier, any watch with Unitas movement that cost less than RM1k will most likely housed a Chinese machine whistling.gif
Here are the comparison between Swiss and China Unitas,
http://tamhk.com/mwf/index.php/topic,761.0.html

Option for you? Try to look at Damasko, another high regards German watch manufacturer. Damasko DC66 review here,
http://tamhk.com/mwf/index.php/topic,201.0.html

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wow i just noticed that LYn also got watches phorum.. i usually stick to another local phorum (noticed some of the ppl replying here are from there too) rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Feb 28 2010, 01:26 PM)
Btw how often does tag need to send for servicing/calibration? and approx how much it cost?

What about these brand?
1) Longines
2) Luminox

More brands can be found here smile.gif
U only need to take it in every 4-5yrs. for a mechanical Tag ~$200 and usually takes about 1-2week.
a quartz is every 3yrs, cost ~$30 and its a 30min job!

1) Longines is Tag's competitor.
2) Luminox ok... most watches are quartz. wouldn't rate it high along with Longines/Tag


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QUOTE(khopl @ Feb 28 2010, 01:46 PM)
- automatic movement (preferably swiss)
- aviator style (something like Steinhart Nav-B Chrono series, altho chronograph is not compulsory)
- with date (even better if comes with day and date)
- 45mm and above (preferably in black PVD case)
- good lume
- leather strap
- preferably with power reserve indicator
- preferably with transparent case back


Checked out Getat cos I kinda like the marina militare style, but most of them don't have date except Parnis (which seems to have everything!).  tongue.gif
I like this Steinhart model: Steinhart Nav-B Chrono 47mm
But unfortunately it doesn't come with black PVD case, no power reserve indicator and no transparent case back.  sad.gif  I don't really mind all these but does anyone have any recommendation for other brands?

Another things is I noticed there are quite a lot of automatic watches using Unitas movement. Are Unitas swiss or asian made? Some site says swiss unitas...some says asian unitas. So i'm confused.   rclxub.gif


Unitas? 6498/6497 they are not automatic all manual wind.
swiss movement and U want pwr reserve, i believe all the options are listed a few pages back. Thing is none of them are in PVD case in nando's 3K budget. if your budget is higher than his, there are of course 1-2 around.

its extremely hard to find chrono+pwr reserve combo watches.
when U say prefer are they optional options?
as for aviator are u looking for onion crown?

eg: Swiss Army Victorinox Airboss Mach 6 Power Gauge Limited Edition.
both chrono+pwr reserve+PVD+45mm case. cost wise ~US$4K
http://www.swissarmy.com/Timepieces/Pages/...&product=241308
Zenith will have it but u know the cost. its should be more than US$14K.
http://www.thewatchery.com/Zenith/Watches/...efy_Xtreme/Mens
Graham Swordfish PVD
Pam and Bell & Ross, U'll definitely find it.

not looking for complications.
Archimede Black Pilot: good value priced under EUR$450.
http://www.archimede-uhren.de/EN/Pilot-family.htm
Fortis, its PVD with day date, but 42mm case and no pwr reserve.
http://www.worldlux.com/cgi-bin/navigate.c...froogle_sponsor
Aristo PVD Pilot
Zeno (found a chrono+pwr reserve+date) don't have PVD, 44mm case, day.
http://www.zeno-watch.ch/en/watches.html

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just want to know should i buy a automatic watch winder to preserve my watch because not all the time i will wear the watch.

anyone got themselves a tourbillon? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(-_- @ Feb 28 2010, 10:27 PM)
just want to know should i buy a automatic watch winder to preserve my watch because not all the time i will wear the watch.

anyone got themselves a tourbillon? tongue.gif
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neat collection.
Chinese tourbillon maybe.. Swiss/German maybe unlikely.
Its extremely hard to regulate. most of these tourbillon are non-hacking too.

back to watch winder.. if u are lazy to set the time everytime and your watch is accurate to a certain degree by all means go get it.
if your watch is gaining/losing 15sec every 24hrs. letting it sit on the winder after 2 weeks your watch would have gained/slowed by 3.5mins.
are to the kind to readjust if thats the case? if U are doing that, no pt getting a winder.


Added on March 1, 2010, 9:18 am
QUOTE(terencetoo @ Feb 27 2010, 11:13 PM)
I was quite picky in terms of the day-date vs the date.

Btw, what leather watches can i look for (i'm open for suggestion  smile.gif )
Budget not more than rm10k
want a Day-date try Tutima Flieger Chronograph F3, its on Lemania cal 5100. iirc many collectors out there love to own a chrono on this movement as it pretty rare.
http://www.watchseller.com/tutfliegchro.html

check this post out
http://www.chronomaddox.com/nouvelle_lemania_5100.html


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