Thanks ck77...i now have a much better understanding of a Swiss and China made Unitas. The swiss made ones definitely looks better and I'm sure
more reliable as well.

Yupp, I am REALLY tempted by the Steinhart Nav-B Chrono 47mm!!

The Damasko you recommended is not bad...but unfortunately only 42mm

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Added on March 1, 2010, 12:26 pmErrr..patryn33...the Zeno watch you recommended...any idea how much is the cost range?

This post has been edited by khopl: Mar 1 2010, 12:26 PM

if you're comparing with the carrera.... check out the Longines GrandeVitesse


IMO.. the one that tops both the Tag and the Longines is this


i like the Tag Heuer Carrera Chrono too, but Tag is so common, every tom d*** and hairy has it. I wouldn't want to go to a dinner or event and have a few guys wearing the same watch as me, i don't know about you. I would get the Maurice Lacroix instead. Don't really fancy the Longines design.

someone mentioned the Zenith El Primero.. looks very..Swatch to me, design wise.

this is the holy grail for me

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Added on March 1, 2010, 12:42 pmi've got a winner for you..of all your requirements.. it just doesn't have one.. no power reserve indicator..
Oris BC4 Chronograph

i think power reserve indicator chronographs not very common..and probably cost quite significant.

This post has been edited by Jason: Mar 1 2010, 12:42 PM

for the classic Flieger design, Stowa, Steinhart, Lacos and Archimede are 4 very popular brands...

Stowa is most expensive and takes longer time for delivery..their flieger model is only 40mm i think...but a lot of people (Stowa owners naturally) swore that the finishing is clearly better than the other 3...

the other 3 bands probably faster delivery time, definitely cheaper, and they have more options (dial size, chronographs, etc)...

I would just like to ask if anyone here knows where to get the parts Bell & Ross Skeleton Auomatic Movement with SIlver Case and Bezel watch. I lost one of the 'threaded bars & screws/bolt' that screws together to hold the rubber strap to the watch.

Or do you have idea where to get it repaired? I have been to few shops but they say they cant repair it. Anyone here knows where to repair replica watches?

Thank You.

We don't talk replica watches here, sorry

something like this feels like swatch?


this perhaps. Its a Chrono, Pwr reserve, date, black, 46.5mm, water resistance to 1000m issue here no display back and no day display.
cost b4 discount ~$20K


not all Zenith El Primero are crazy.. Defy Xtreme series are crazy/funky looking. Design wise U find more ppl loving swatch design vs Zenith.
price wise.. can buy 100 to 300 swatches to 1 Zenith Defy Xtreme. Its also non plastic.. extremely heavy.

well, Chrono + pwr reserve.. not too much if 1 get the swiss army.. ~US$3K

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Added on March 1, 2010, 7:47 pmno idea whats the retail. I think its close to the Swiss Army watch.
after discount on gray market is going for ~US$2700.
http://www.swissmade.com/en/web/index.php?...o_power_reserve




This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 1 2010, 07:47 PM

yep, yet to find Swiss movement with Power Reserve below 3k...Orient and Seiko has, but not Swiss movement...i didnt checked price of Hamilton Jazz master power reserve display.i think Mido also has model with power display but doubt can get for 3k...
in fact, cheapest i seen so far is the Ball Trainmaster Power Reserve...

I was like you when I was deciding on the carrera with date or DD. In the end I got myself the DD. For me the main difference is the size, and the usual date only version is too common IMHO. With the budget of around 10k, you actually do have a lot of choices My DD runs +1 sec / day crown up and +- 0 when my dial facing up. That's what I can tell u bout the watch. Tho its not a chronometer, the accuracy is within the chronometer range. I was tempted by the omega speedmaster as well, but it just looks too small on my wrist. If anyone were to say every tom d*** and harry has it, he/she must have a lot of friends who are quite well to do eh? No offense taken.


patryn33: the Zenith El Primero doesn't look like a swatch, it reminds me of gerald genta sport without the subdials

This post has been edited by Jr.Koh: Mar 1 2010, 10:04 PM

hi patryn33, yes, which is why in my original statement i said looks very swatch to me. i believe you agree with me that looks are subjective, thus you can possibly say that i don't know how to appreciate it and likewise i can say that i got better taste. but its all subjective.

Jr.Koh: I went for an annual dinner of an insurance agency, and yes, spotted 2 carreras but they were the non-DD variant, and lots of tag aquaracers, some oysters. tags are everywhere. if someone is wearing a swiss watch that is in the tag price bracket, it would most likely be a tag, and not say, a longines. (which, is a direct competitor to tag). do go look at watch boutiques, Tag would be the one with the most crowd.

ok to all sifus out there, my dad wan suprise my mom to buy a pair of ROLEX watch with budget of RM50k. which is the highest recomendation? my dad really sentimental...zzz to my part i just hope i can gip some idea to my dad...hope fellow LYNfollower can help me out!
many thanks...

true...

how about these? swatch? no swatch?

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Added on March 2, 2010, 8:16 amya, thru AD its hard us$3k+ is possible.
chrono+pwr res+day+date... not possible.

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Added on March 2, 2010, 8:18 ampossible!! get the datejust collection. men's no gold.. ladies maybe diamond markers.


This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 2 2010, 08:18 AM

if you want to stand out the crowd but wear something different, you might want to consider the present Omega Planet Ocean series...especially the orange bezel ones...i think the bracelet model looks cool and yet elegant enough to be an interesting `conversation initiating' dress watch..good movement too....perhaps with nego and cash purchase, you can get it slightly below RM10k..

but of course, the below 10k version...dial is clean...no chrono ....

This post has been edited by nando: Mar 2 2010, 09:40 AM

something like these? if omega can get ~25% discount 10K is possible.

What I meant by preferably is I don't really mind if the watch don't have the feature/function but it'll be a plus if it has.
And as for the crown, onion or no onion is okay with me.

Thanks a lot for your recommendations, patryn33....the Swiss Army Victorinox Airboss Mach 6 Power Gauge Limited Edition you recommended looks great and I think it has almost all the requirements I wanted....however unfortunately the Swiss Army brand doesn't really appeal to me....like Tag, B&R and a few others (no offense to fans of the brands)...these are well established brands who produces fine watches but somehow for whatever reasons....the brand doesn't appeal to me.

It ain't that easy finding the perfect watch I suppose!

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Added on March 2, 2010, 1:26 pmMany thanks Jason! I've always liked the Oris BC4...wonder why it never crossed my mind before this!!
Maybe I'll check it out at the shops this weekend!!

This post has been edited by khopl: Mar 2 2010, 01:26 PM

Guys,
Just a thought, shall we mee up for a small GTG for watches talks?
Time and venue up for suggestion

yes....never fails to cause my heartbeat to increase...
the black bezel with orange marker also look nice...

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Added on March 2, 2010, 4:37 pmwah...cannot la khopl!!! the Oris Chronograph will make a widow out of your Aviator!

This post has been edited by nando: Mar 2 2010, 04:37 PM

I like this post!
ya.. that Ball Aviator may become lonely...

The Oris BC4 will easily set me back RM10k+ after discount!! But what to do....gatal....if nothing to do this weekend then maybe go 'look-see loo-see' la.

Maybe should just settle for the Steinhart Nav-B Chrono 47mm

Talking about my Aviator....one of my friends said it looked like a Swatch at a glance!! %*#@#&!!!!

Swiss Army is on Sopord mod 7750, on the usual ETA 7750. quality should be better.
Swiss Army brand really sound cheap.. anyway thats their target market else how to find chrono+date+pwr res under US$4k.

seem like u have a thing with Oris and Ball. which brands do u have a thing for?
Oris kinda lost my love, when I learn they operate like Hamilton. to keep cost down, many things are imported from the far east.
price wise somehow I wouldn't pay 10K for a chrono that runs on ETA 7750.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 2 2010, 07:55 PM

Its not that the brand sounds cheap to me....but dunno how to explain la....like I can't see myself wearing the brand I guess. In fact, I quite like their design (Swiss Army)...plus I know that particular model has pretty good movement...quality and all. Well, like I said...the brand doesn't appeal to me. Like Tag...its doesn't sound cheap and it isn't cheap either....but it doesn't appeal to me. B&R too...Montblanc (don't mind their pens actually )...Longines too..to name a few.

Actually I just like that particular Oris....the BC4...the rest of their line, well not so much.

In fact, when I got the Ball Aviator, I was contemplating between Oris TT3 and Maurice Lacroix Pontos Chronographe. The TT3 is titanium...really light...and I dunno...it feels plasticky to me...I mean the weight of course! I prefer something heavier I guess. I was really really tempted by the ML but then I was actually looking for something I can wear everyday...a 'workhorse' so to speak...and I don't think I can wear the ML everyday. So I finally settle for the Aviator...plus the sales person was going on and on about how great the lume is. Well, after buying it...its now more like a 'retired horse' than a 'workhorse'!!!

You asked which brand I have a thing for? Well, to be honest, there are a few brands that I stay away from (as mentioned above) as they don't appeal to me (again, no offense to any fans)....but I quite fancy IWC particularly the pilot models, Omega, Panerai, Sinn....sigh, if only can afford!!....but in general, I like Aviator/Pilot styled watches.

What about yourself...I gotta feeling you have a thing for Zenith.