I'm not sure fortunately or unfortunately, but lately i've been getting or perhaps offered into an opportunity to have sex without feelings. These people are all attached with BFs.

Is it a growing trend? I am told by these people that, it is not wrong because it is more like a feel good activity. Just like going out watching movie and having dinner. It's just an activity to make us feel nice.

For the record, i have not submitted to any of these "requests". Trust me, its really difficult. Sometimes hormone take over my brain. What do you all think and would you do it or try?

can i join?

depends how you look at it. but mind, would your future gf approve of it? will it change the way she's gonna look at you, no matter how good a guy you are?

I think on a common circumstances, gf definitely will mind. Unless of coz, she herself would be like that.
Confusing part is, these girls all got bf ones.

sik tak mo sai. can eat don't waste!.

But what if your GF do it with another man?

maybe their bf havn't been satisfying them properly lol.
means you would do it if they were single?

Other ppl gf dun le. If single then nvm. Btw, I can join as well.

I'm rich and leng cai. Issit ok?

if you get STD, issit ok?

no u shud virgin until married.

Totally seconded.
Also chances are u're not the only one who's gotten offers right?
Also so sorry to say this (if u guys know anyone like these), but they are worse than hookers who do this for the money.
If both bf and gf are into these activities, then that's just really sad.

Thats a tough call. I have NOT succumb to that yet. Wouldn't want to walk down the path of a player. Don't want to be a saint here, i guess to some circumstances if both single and willing. Can consider. Dun judge me, hormones + alcohol = no willpower.

No offence dude. Rich and lengchais dun say they are that.

???
whats with dat gals pic?

TS i got one thing to say to you,"do the right thing".

No... all this are cubaan from syaitan... pass it to us. We'll settle it for you

and your point is?

This post has been edited by chocoholic221: Dec 9 2008, 04:09 PM

But the line that comes before that is...."Be A Man."

Hhahahah... good ol' Russell Peters.
I giv u best price, 34.50.

u might be caught ... mini pin-hole camera ...
later beaten up ... threaten ...

Dont do ...

This post has been edited by andylim2000: Dec 9 2008, 04:17 PM

WTF that's only 50 cents!

Kopitiamers will envy you...

chocoholic221 I LOVE U !!!

what if, if some one set you up?...then...u r in a deep shit....so think twice...nothing comes free in this world...so u must pay the price later....may be in your future...so dun....

Arrogant dome i love you too!

this is an interesting perspective

True true. Again, some of them are my highschool frens. I think setting up may not be likely.
But more of karma at the end of the day.

why are they worse than hookers? why is it sad if both bf/gf are into such activities? Why are ye so judgemental?

Sex does not only affect you physically but emotionally as well. Are you sure you can feel emotionally unattached to a person after doing it? Well, if you think you can...by all means go for it. Just that I don't think its the right thing to do.

my story is another version
i done that many times with the same person, got feeling, but we chose to be like that only, not to be in a relationship but still doing those things

sad huh?

I was about to say that I wasn't being judgmental. But I guess I am. What's wrong with these people I wonder? Don't they believe in the sanctity of an intimate relationship anymore? Could u accept if u had a partner like that who're doing things behind ur back? (Or are there normal guys who would actually allow their gfs to sleep around?) And ppl wonder why is society is getting so complex (f***ed up) now...

To f- w/o feeling is no different from banging a tree stump that has been sawned off, or stick ur little bro in every hole u can find (incl but not limited to a vacum cleaner ABSOLUTE classic or whatever), or a plastic doll which coincidently has a hole in the mouth and its butt.

It's just mens urge to hump anything it comes across, when ur in ur early 20's u will find it difficult to control (exception is the "suxing me dry thread, when the gal is more hungry than the guy.)

self-praise is no praise at all... polis kata jgn perasaan (sic)

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Added on December 9, 2008, 5:29 pm5 mins of passionate love making, is much more satisfying compared to 50 mins of humping a dead body.

This post has been edited by aurora97: Dec 9 2008, 05:29 PM

Can intro to us ka ?

we are all rich, lengcai.
lolx...

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Added on December 9, 2008, 5:30 pmhe means ONE of the girl...in the scenario..

This post has been edited by NelsonBoy: Dec 9 2008, 05:30 PM

Everyone has different "needs", if they can get it without harming people, its ok. Would I like it if my partner is doing it behind my back? of course not. However if its something we discussed and agreed on, then its a different story.

Some people just don't get intimacy/romance they need out of their partner, maybe the guy ejaculates after 3 seconds and doesn't know how to please a woman, but is great in everything else. So the only logical choice for the girl, is to find a f*ck buddy. It may not be the "right" thing to do, but how many people will actually throw away a partner that fulfils 90% of their requirements to achieve get that missing 10%? Very very few, that is why you get so many people cheating.

Society has always been f**ked up. Its f**ked up now too, but not in the way you think. Sexuality has been made so taboo, that people are incredibly confused. Girls are shunned when they express their sexuality, and guys are now raised too softly, that they are no longer in-tune with their more aggressive instincts which is what attracts women. So you get a society where women pair up with the majority of men who are "soft", hiding their sexuality and only showing it in secret affair.

Not many people are capable of compartmentalizing love and sex. Once you've had enough of it, sex tends to feel empty because it's just another partner. And when you finally realize you can compartmentalize these 2 elements repeatedly, it becomes frightening because we tend to lose a lil' bit of our humanity everytime we do so. It's when you have a more profound connection with someone you care about then only will it feel special again.

i hear ya. Y'know... despite the impression I give people that I'm a wild child, my thoughts echo your sentiments. I can be extremely loyal if I'm in a relationship and I would be devastated if my partner were to do that to me. Like you, the sanctity of a relationship is something i would guard with the utmost of my abilities. I've stepped into pretty dark paths before and those memories are something which I'm not proud of. Youth, impetuousness and an overdosage of male hormones are a dangerous combination.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Dec 9 2008, 05:37 PM

personally i think we r living in a fast pace life-style, everything also wan fast, fast love makin, fast food, fast car, fast to get heated up, do work fast fast, fuk anything fast without any heart or feeling ... at the rate we r going so fast ... we miss out all the smaller things in life and we dont appreciate the more finer things in our life.

sex has just turned into some everyday thing we do, to f- aimlessly aimlessly a tree stump

AIDS is dangerous

I'm not sure how you compare it to f`king a tree stump... since its quite different I would agree with darklight though, it feels empty. It may feel great during the intercourse, but that's where it stays. You don't feel emotionally fulfilled.

Aye... well said my friend.

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Added on December 9, 2008, 5:43 pmI never fukked a tree stump. =(



This post has been edited by darklight79: Dec 9 2008, 05:43 PM

The logical choice isn't to sleep around or find one, two, or three f*** buddies. It's how both couples make an attempt to improve on their relationship by making compromises. Not by taking the easy way out as so many ppl do so easily, without effort even. If all else fails, why not just end the relationship? It's just so pathetic how people just fall so comfortably into their own comfort zone, and find a justification for everything they do, especially when there are a large group who thinks that way. Society has indeed been repressive about sexuality. For a very good reason. No one wants to bring their child up into this world where his parents are seen f***ing around with random neighbors and friends. Cos, hey, if everyone's ok with it, let's bring it on! Seriously, it's just disturbing. Kudos to TS for not having done the deed just yet, though.

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Added on December 9, 2008, 5:56 pmGlad that u have this thought too. Ur past is ur past, and now u know what is really urs to treasure.

This post has been edited by lux: Dec 9 2008, 05:56 PM

My thanks on your praise.

u guys scared Aids la- scared STD la- if u could wear a very very safe condom=those would not b a problem- truthfully im telling

it depends on ur trueself la-if u are those gossip girl ppl who could be loveless n jus Fuk any thing- go for it

anyhow- there is this karma- where it like the Song- Justin Timberlake
wat go around comes around,comes around, comes around- 3x back

get some guts- get some thinking sorted out- like tat guy said- compartmentalize
if u think u could do it- y not rite?

ill go for it- if my head is ready

Simple words may be twisted and bent to paint a picture of a rosey path, all whom know the heart of men thou shall beware. The words in which he speaks may vary from his actions, if u can look urself in the mirror of the things u've done than your noble at heart indeed.

This post has been edited by aurora97: Dec 9 2008, 06:03 PM

erm.. yes u can, but it feels.. much more better if u doing it with someone u love

dont go to their lvl, as tempting as it may seem d pleasures of d flesh

Woh woh... lets not get all political and be grey or vague. Chill..... its just a simple discussion.
Ain't no right or wrong nor judge or be judged.

It's because it's the cool factor, especially among guys. Something like smoking except comparing how many partners you've screwed is way cooler than the mundane act of smoking. It definitely feels good, it definitely is exciting initially; we are talking about sex from a guy's perspective, let's be realistic.

But as you progress in life, you tend to wake up and ask yourself, is that the way you want to live the rest of your existence? When I tell someone life is too short, I don't mean life is too short not to screw around. I say life is too short not to have someone you really, really care for by your side. This is what separates us from animals. I believe in this statement:-

The fact that we desire something we cannot deny, but we can deny our desires, especially if it's for the greater good.

Heh thanks I guess.

get the pic not- be NIKE- you can do it! JUST DO IT!!!
whoohoo

can recommend ur so called frens???

joking....

as long as i am attracted to her i dont see anything wrong. as long as i am not attached and she is not. if we are both willing then nothing wrong.

I don't think that's relevant to the topic. You need to read the first post more in detail.

Some people, just can't change. Some people no matter how much you try to "awaken" them, they will remain the way they are. Its stupid to assume couples do not try to work things out, they often go to great lengths to do it before actually succumbing to external pressure. I'm not justifying their actions, because I don't think its either right/wrong. Its just the way the world is, and this aspect of human relationship has never changed and its unlikely it ever will.

Being in-tune with your sexuality doesn't mean you go around humping everyone. It just means being comfortable about your body and sexuality. When both genders understand this, they'll find partners that suit them and stick to them. Because then you realise what YOU want/need, not based on society's stupid taboos and pressure. You don't have to be afraid of expressing something "taboo" that you need in a relationship.

To have a Fubu or not to have a Fubu?

That is your question isn't it?

Do it if you don't have a girlfriend.

Do it if you think you can do it behind your GF back without her knowledge.

Do it if you think you can do it behind your wife's back without her knowledge.

But!

Don't do it if you think you will get caught from either your wife or GF.

And make sure she doesn't get emotionally attached with you after a long period of time.

Because us men can differenciate between love and sex.

However, majority of the women can't. So take heed and tread carefully.

A moment of happiness can lead to an eternity of despair and regret.


But If it were me, I would say "Kita Enjoyyyyyyyyyyyyy"

hahahahaha

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Added on December 9, 2008, 7:28 pmLike always my Cheong kaki's tell a newbie when it comes to sex prevention topics.

Scared of Aids ah? Scared of STD ah? Wear double condom ar? etc etc.

Go die lah! Then don't do it lah. Go home and TFK lah!

This post has been edited by KirklandLee: Dec 9 2008, 07:28 PM

Last I read, this thread was about people screwing about outside their relationships, though. Does this mean that people should go around finding a couple f*** buddies that they feel comfortable with and that might later on develop into something more meaningful? Like they have an Aha! moment and realize that they've found THE ONE and stop having casual sex? I don't know, dude. "Society's stupid taboos" are called Moral values, which I'm sure everyone learnt in class, but never gave a damn about. Our society now is really made up by an army of mentally twisted f***tards who's values are only ME, ME and ME!

This post has been edited by lux: Dec 9 2008, 09:07 PM

TS...Its a sin for a men to reject sex..u might go to hell for this..hahah..so dont risk it..

Getting a little too philosophical here...

I dont mind
But in one condition, she's not married

Should they? Up to them I say. It already happens, men sleeping with other women, women sleeping with other men, most of the times, the partners know they're cheating on each other too. They just turn a blind-eye to it. Some people even share their partners voluntarily (Swingers). Whether it works, depends on the type of relationship between the couple.

The sexual repression i'm talking about, is not about "moral values". It seems you totally missed the point. The repression is the CAUSE of all these problems to begin with. You can express your sexuality, you can be active and indulge in it... all while maintaining and respecting the sanctity of a relationship. The keypoint to understand here is that to do this, you need to understand and be in-touch with your sexuality. If not, you won't know how to handle it, you won't know what you want/need and thus you will always want to "explore", guess what that leads to?


My my... bitter aren't you? are you really any different? We are all human, we all have a degree of selfishness, and when it comes to love, it is inherently selfish. You have to care for yourself first before you can care for your partner. If your own needs are not met, how can you meet the needs of your partner? A relationship works when both sides fulfil each other's needs.

I don't know why people like you are so pissed about stuff like this. Sure it hurts the other party, sure it isn't the "right" thing to do, but you know what? Its irrelevant. Those who are hurt will move on, its a sign that the relationship wasn't meant to be in the first place. Those who cheat will get what's coming to them anyway, and sometimes the cheaters turn out to be the better match. I rather people make these mistakes earlier than later.

QFT. I agree with this man.

Awh, I'm certainly not pissed off. I'm actually enjoying a good argument here. Thanks for replying to my post anyway. Anyway, don't u think that Moral Values, and or religious teachings are the cause of sexual repression? Because it's not morally right to have any sort of sex before marriage anyway. There are certain boundaries when it comes to sexuality, and for certain, sexual liberation doesn't give one an excuse or justification to act out all his sexual fantasies. There are always fantasies, and people will always have many sexual fantasies, and some really disgusting fetishes, but ultimately, the person can make a choice whether to act on his lust or not. Lust, is a driving emotional factor that causes much irreparable damage that certainly cannot be undone later. U might lose a loved one, or maybe someone u really love, because she couldn't stand the thought of u fooling around "with no strings attached" with another/more girls. And actually, those who hurt, will move on, for sure. But out of those, how certain are u that they won't carry the hurt on to their next relationship? Sex is really a deep and meaningful act of bonding between a couple, which should be respected. Respect for ur own body, respect for others'. Like u mentioned, "A relationship works when both sides fulfil each other's needs." If u can't meet each others' needs, it's just better to stop being a coward, get out of ur comfort zone and move on. A lot of people are just full of chicken shit talk, but no action.

You either think with your head or think with your other 'head'.
Either way, you will come out victorious.....be proud.

yeap...

but the addiction is still there.... after doing it once, u will ask for more...

belum cuba belum tau, sudah cuba hari hari mau...

I don't know, wouldn't want someone to cheat on me like that but....

Live a little, eh?

Haha, as long as it's not happening to me. Yes, double standards but you know what, you're thinking for her. She's not thinking for herself. And you don't need to think for her.

now no gf can think like dat lah... do it without worries...

when u got gf, whenever u do with other gal, u will think ur gf doing with some other guys....

well, u will tend to think alot during the intercourse...

wow....whats ur secret?
How come u can get chances like dat?
Just make sure their boyfriends aren't stronger than u....

Also keep this in ur mind........"What goes aroun...comes around"
How will u feel when sum other guy does it with ur gf?
will u still think that it was only for fun and it is ok?

lets say u go get a prostitue u must develope feelings for her too ?

Of course its intertwined, the point is that morally, sexuality has been repressed, it needs to be accepted. That doesn't mean you go around humping sheep though... People should learn that sex is NORMAL, and that women need it just as much as men. Its an essential part of human relationship, and its sad that most people just don't get to develop their sexuality properly.


I don't disagree, but sometimes... couples cheat emotionally and not just sexually. Regardless of what the needs are, if they don't get it from their partner, they will get it elsewhere. The point is, people need to learn to let go, and expect that such things will happen, such naivety is unhealthy to begin with.


Yeap, I agree wholeheartedly However, most people will not leave their comfort zones unless forced to. Which is why I actually don't mind people cheating and getting found out. Its better for everyone involved in the long run.

Totally unacceptable...Lust is the root of all evil

Nothing really matters , It's all depends on how you look it.

I can say Zebra is black with white stripes if you get what I mean.

And we're going to a 'better' place soon or later.

Live life to the fullest and don't regret it

they called it FB

This post has been edited by darkdevilrey: Dec 10 2008, 03:07 AM

I lust after my girl and we're very into each other. Tell me it's evil.

Rule number 1, never ever tell your future gf about your dark history

To some extent, if the we can really see through into people's thought I believe 99% of us will cheat on our partners. Whether we put our thoughts into action is another matter all together.

But to distrust our partners or have continued paranoid as though the other partner would run of into the sunset with another would be even more detrimental compared to doing nothing,.

for me.. its a no..
y dun TS find a gf n do that with lov to her
instead of what you did?

Really? Because if she isn't mature enough to handle it when the time is right to tell her, what's the point of being with her in the first place?

Make sure got protection. LOL~

While ur past has nothing to do with her, it shaped u to become the person that ur now. When is the right time to talk about the dark history then? After getting together? Or just never bringing it up at all when she asks "so how were u like before u met me?"?

oh really? well my bf did. wats gonna happen now?

i learned alot from this thread oh man, silverhawk cud u be my counsellor. Im so agree wit ur point

I do think that society now is a lot more open towards sex and it's no longer considered a really taboo subject in urban areas. It's just that what TS has highlighted here is promiscuity. Casual sex, next to dining and movies? Like he (or his friend) highlighted, "it's just a feel good activity for both parties". While so many people, especially the ones who don't have a moral conscience to question that kind of statement, must be feeling great joy, liberation, even. If so many people are doing it, screw my conscience! As it is, I don't know, maybe they learnt it from their parents' swinging parties, or maybe even discovering that their parents started having f*** buddies to feel young or something. Imagine the kinds of things they will teach their children about sexuality

This post has been edited by lux: Dec 10 2008, 12:55 PM

don't bring it up at all, even if u have changed after u have a bf/gf once she found out, it will never be the same thats my point

My girl knew my past before i hooked up with her. You seem to underestimate the tolerance and acceptance some women are capable of. Why?

What's the point of being in a relationship if u can't come clean, and be open and honest about ur part experience? It's pretty one sided. If u already know that it would bother ur other half if he or she found out and couldn't accept ur past, it would still be selfish to pursue that relationship, wouldn't it? I honestly don't see how that relationship would work out. That's why it begets me why people always chant the motto "live without regrets", really live it, and then later be sorry that they couldn't take the past away. Youths now are confident, stubborn and arrogant, and just foolish.

sorry have to said this..

i hate this think twice not bout open minded onot

answer urself do u care if ur gf is virgin o not..that all

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Added on December 10, 2008, 3:16 pmwell done

This post has been edited by myboo_1988: Dec 10 2008, 03:16 PM

"SECRET" means cannot tell wan ma.

Like i mentioned earlier but probably in a more crude manner, there's a fine line between urban living and those who live in small towns where the air is still fresh, the mind is still pure, naive and innocent.

If u urself or any forumner here for this instance, live life as an urbanite it can be a very lonely, fast paced, long hours at work, chasing the corporate ladder, back stabbing, risk taking and no time for r/ships kind of life. In the first place i wouldnt be suprised if "one night stand" culture was first made popular by urbanites, whom sort after the "highs" or the andrenaline rush of a promiscious r/ship. all this are implanted in us by peers around us, corporations and our boss, we engrain ourselves we so much thrash and 101 ways to bend the law that i find simple people have close to zero moral conscience in the company. there is nothing that can change the fact that more and more places or going to urbanize and more and more people will be suxked into it.

We live in the 21st century my friend, conscience, morals, marriage, religion, ethics means nothing or to some extent considered old fashioned or outdated(as for me Medievil). We are living in a world that is opening up so far and spreading a new culture and tread that we should endorse and embrace wholly should be for our own benefit or interest.

If it is to the extent consensual by the partners to indulge themselves in multiple r/ships, than the answer would be why not?

So my fellow forumners...

Looks urselves in the mirror and ask yourselves what have you done right morally, ethically or your conscience for that matter. So long as no harm is done to another, than i say why not?

sometimes if u have sex too much and 1 day when a pretty girl naked and u wont stim de, even she help u blow job or wat
trust me
i try this b4
hahaha

Distrust? No.. you trust them. You just accept the fact that if they cheat, they're not for you. Instead of thinking "it won't happen to me". When you're in the thought of "she may cheat", you start appreciating her more, and thus you treat her better. You give her reason to NOT cheat. If she does anyway, hey.. you've done your best, it wasn't meant to be. Move on.

Easier said than done of course, but this aspect of society HAS NEVER changed, its the same 3000 years ago and it is now. You can't change society, but you can change yourself.


Why must things be so extreme for you? There's always a nice middle ground. I'm cool with casual sex, but I won't do it with someone who's taken. Its still "taboo", people talk about it.. but only among closed circles or anonymously. Look at your reaction, who would want to be judged by others like that?


Oh c`mon, its not only an urban thing. If anything, the only difference urban living makes is the population density. That just means a higher frequency/occurrence of any activity. Its not so much about the lifestyle. All this sleeping around has existed since the dawn of mankind, its never going to stop, but that doesn't mean you need to do it too. Its up to you to decide whether you can live with your actions or not.

Yes, ur so right, bro. "conscience, morals, marriage, religion, ethics means nothing or to some extent considered old fashioned or outdated(as for me Medievil)". No one plays by those rules anymore. Everyone is just living on the edge, to fulfill and indulge in their self serving pleasure. Live with no regrets, only if u can deal with the circumstance later.

Sigh... chill. They'll learn sooner or later. We cannot change the way people think. Which is why wisdom is never innate, it is acquired.

hello silverhawk ...



End of the day is individual , you wan to do it , do it , if its against your ways of life , den choose not to do it ...

You dun expect things or matter to mend to suit your liking, you hav to change urself to see changes in front of you ...

hmm .. blur mode ... go back other thread

hi devilrox

wahh u vegetarian suddenly?
i tot he kena grill oledi lulz

Who got grilled ? hmm now vegetarian lo , no blood to suck

ppl say hi to me
i say hi back lor

its exactly what i was trying to point out, probably in a more vague sense. If my gf were to leave me today for another guy or for whatever the reason, I would probably say thank you it feels liberating! This is a r/ship that we have built together and if we shud part from this, definately no regrets. If u ask me why, i seriously dont know?

Do i trust her with all my heart? No
Do I love her? yes
Do i love her whole heartedly? Maybe
Will she cheat on me? possible

Final Question
Do we both sleep well at night? Absolutely.



Fact or fiction you decide, i d believe that people in smaller towns live a more healtier lifestyle. Personally I am from one and when i came to KL, obviously the exposure working and personal is much more extreme. Density maybe part of the argument, but seriously any urban area is of course a beacon for all sorts of people and a melting pot for all sorts of cultures that we bring along.

1 night stand ...

wake up look at each other , do i noe u ?

den A will like oh i went into the wrong house, was drunk , thanks for letting me overnite and sorry for disturbing

the B will be like , nah its okie, you're kinda tired as well , hey y dun we bcome friends , my name is xxx

den A like oh my name is xxx , very sorry

B like its cool ~ no worries, guilty ? spend me breakfast

A like alrite ... Your choice

B like hmm starbucks ?

A okie ...


den dating ... ending up couple ... the power of 1 night stand ~~