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 Sex with love, Wrong to have sex without feelings?

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post Dec 9 2008, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(asiuol @ Dec 9 2008, 03:48 PM)
I'm not sure fortunately or unfortunately, but lately i've been getting or perhaps offered into an opportunity to have sex without feelings. These people are all attached with BFs.  blink.gif

Is it a growing trend? I am told by these people that, it is not wrong because it is more like a feel good activity. Just like going out watching movie and having dinner. It's just an activity to make us feel nice. rclxub.gif

For the record, i have not submitted to any of these "requests". brows.gif  Trust me, its really difficult. Sometimes hormone take over my brain. shocking.gif  What do you all think and would you do it or try?
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To f- w/o feeling is no different from banging a tree stump that has been sawned off, or stick ur little bro in every hole u can find (incl but not limited to a vacum cleaner ABSOLUTE classic or whatever), or a plastic doll which coincidently has a hole in the mouth and its butt.

It's just mens urge to hump anything it comes across, when ur in ur early 20's u will find it difficult to control (exception is the "suxing me dry thread, when the gal is more hungry than the guy.)

QUOTE(PeeNut @ Dec 9 2008, 04:00 PM)
Other ppl gf dun le. If single then nvm. Btw, I can join as well.

I'm rich and leng cai. Issit ok?
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Added on December 9, 2008, 5:29 pm5 mins of passionate love making, is much more satisfying compared to 50 mins of humping a dead body.

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post Dec 9 2008, 05:37 PM

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personally i think we r living in a fast pace life-style, everything also wan fast, fast love makin, fast food, fast car, fast to get heated up, do work fast fast, fuk anything fast without any heart or feeling ... at the rate we r going so fast ... we miss out all the smaller things in life and we dont appreciate the more finer things in our life.

sex has just turned into some everyday thing we do, to f- aimlessly aimlessly a tree stump
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post Dec 9 2008, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(asiuol @ Dec 9 2008, 03:48 PM)
I'm not sure fortunately or unfortunately, but lately i've been getting or perhaps offered into an opportunity to have sex without feelings. These people are all attached with BFs.  blink.gif

Is it a growing trend? I am told by these people that, it is not wrong because it is more like a feel good activity. Just like going out watching movie and having dinner. It's just an activity to make us feel nice. rclxub.gif

For the record, i have not submitted to any of these "requests". brows.gif  Trust me, its really difficult. Sometimes hormone take over my brain. shocking.gif  What do you all think and would you do it or try?
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QUOTE(asiuol @ Dec 9 2008, 05:58 PM)
My thanks on your praise.  smile.gif
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Simple words may be twisted and bent to paint a picture of a rosey path, all whom know the heart of men thou shall beware. The words in which he speaks may vary from his actions, if u can look urself in the mirror of the things u've done than your noble at heart indeed.

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post Dec 10 2008, 12:18 PM

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I don't disagree, but sometimes... couples cheat emotionally and not just sexually. Regardless of what the needs are, if they don't get it from their partner, they will get it elsewhere. The point is, people need to learn to let go, and expect that such things will happen, such naivety is unhealthy to begin with.


To some extent, if the we can really see through into people's thought I believe 99% of us will cheat on our partners. Whether we put our thoughts into action is another matter all together.

But to distrust our partners or have continued paranoid as though the other partner would run of into the sunset with another would be even more detrimental compared to doing nothing,.
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post Dec 10 2008, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(lux @ Dec 10 2008, 12:54 PM)
I do think that society now is a lot more open towards sex and it's no longer considered a really taboo subject in urban areas. It's just that what TS has highlighted here is promiscuity. Casual sex, next to dining and movies? Like he (or his friend) highlighted, "it's just a feel good activity for both parties". While so many people, especially the ones who don't have a moral conscience to question that kind of statement, must be feeling great joy, liberation, even. If so many people are doing it, screw my conscience! As it is, I don't know, maybe they learnt it from their parents' swinging parties, or maybe even discovering that their parents started having f*** buddies to feel young or something. Imagine the kinds of things they will teach their children about sexuality
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Like i mentioned earlier but probably in a more crude manner, there's a fine line between urban living and those who live in small towns where the air is still fresh, the mind is still pure, naive and innocent.

If u urself or any forumner here for this instance, live life as an urbanite it can be a very lonely, fast paced, long hours at work, chasing the corporate ladder, back stabbing, risk taking and no time for r/ships kind of life. In the first place i wouldnt be suprised if "one night stand" culture was first made popular by urbanites, whom sort after the "highs" or the andrenaline rush of a promiscious r/ship. all this are implanted in us by peers around us, corporations and our boss, we engrain ourselves we so much thrash and 101 ways to bend the law that i find simple people have close to zero moral conscience in the company. there is nothing that can change the fact that more and more places or going to urbanize and more and more people will be suxked into it.

We live in the 21st century my friend, conscience, morals, marriage, religion, ethics means nothing or to some extent considered old fashioned or outdated(as for me Medievil). We are living in a world that is opening up so far and spreading a new culture and tread that we should endorse and embrace wholly should be for our own benefit or interest.

If it is to the extent consensual by the partners to indulge themselves in multiple r/ships, than the answer would be why not?

So my fellow forumners...

Looks urselves in the mirror and ask yourselves what have you done right morally, ethically or your conscience for that matter. So long as no harm is done to another, than i say why not?

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post Dec 10 2008, 04:10 PM

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its exactly what i was trying to point out, probably in a more vague sense. If my gf were to leave me today for another guy or for whatever the reason, I would probably say thank you it feels liberating! This is a r/ship that we have built together and if we shud part from this, definately no regrets. If u ask me why, i seriously dont know?

Do i trust her with all my heart? No
Do I love her? yes
Do i love her whole heartedly? Maybe
Will she cheat on me? possible

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Do we both sleep well at night? Absolutely.

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Oh c`mon, its not only an urban thing. If anything, the only difference urban living makes is the population density. That just means a higher frequency/occurrence of any activity. Its not so much about the lifestyle. All this sleeping around has existed since the dawn of mankind, its never going to stop, but that doesn't mean you need to do it too. Its up to you to decide whether you can live with your actions or not.


Fact or fiction you decide, i d believe that people in smaller towns live a more healtier lifestyle. Personally I am from one and when i came to KL, obviously the exposure working and personal is much more extreme. Density maybe part of the argument, but seriously any urban area is of course a beacon for all sorts of people and a melting pot for all sorts of cultures that we bring along.

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post Dec 10 2008, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(lux @ Dec 10 2008, 03:59 PM)
Yes, ur so right, bro. "conscience, morals, marriage, religion, ethics means nothing or to some extent considered old fashioned or outdated(as for me Medievil)". No one plays by those rules anymore. Everyone is just living on the edge, to fulfill and indulge in their self serving pleasure. Live with no regrets, only if u can deal with the circumstance later.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 10 2008, 04:03 PM)
Sigh... chill. They'll learn sooner or later. We cannot change the way people think. Which is why wisdom is never innate, it is acquired.
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To my learned friends (above)...
I have never been the sort of people who follows the textbooks / proven ways that hasnt been written down and imprinted into some circuit board in our brain, look at us all we look like some massively manufactured bunch of drift wood without any essence nor motivation to think for ourselves.

I belive personally to challenge the boundaries asn seek out new alternative, if we keep on holding on to those Medievil values how far are to progress? It only acts to guide us not restrict us, we will bend it to suit our needs when and if necessary.

Otherwise, the learned friends I have mentioend... ur still living and thinking in a world that is still squarish rather than oval.
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post Dec 10 2008, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(lux @ Dec 10 2008, 04:20 PM)
Seconded. The peer pressure is there with density, and people are naturally competitive. Those who are mentally weak will succumb easily and absorb any culture that invites them with welcome arms. Temptation is best shared, so no longer should anyone feel any guilt indulging in their dirty little pleasures.
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There r weak ppl, strong people, naive people but we can just simple generalize everything as being bad. Take yourself for example, havent you yourself fallen into some sort of negative culture, lust, temptation, what is wrong enjoying those guilty pleasures in life dont we all enjoy them now andd than but to describe this little pleasures as being "dirty" is surely hypocracy and the usage of a poor choice of words and perception.

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Dec 10 2008, 04:26 PM)
I'm born and raised in KL, my parents and majority of my cousins though, are small town folk. Healthier lifestyle, perhaps, but in the context of this topic... I don't see a difference. The same shit goes on.
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Fact or fiction u decide, ur certainly entitled to your opinion but others might beg to differ.

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post Dec 10 2008, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(lux @ Dec 10 2008, 04:29 PM)
What's wrong with thinking and living in a "squarish" world? Just because we do have our own "Medieval" ideals, that doesn't mean that we don't have our own sets of beliefs and boundaries to bend. Also in relation to this topic, what kind of boundaries or alternatives are we supposed to challenge or seek in sexual promiscuity? How does this benefit society's progress if not for their own self serving pleasure? hmm.gif Perhaps u could enlighten us. Along with guys out there who still want "virgin wives", it's really funny how hypocritical people can be. laugh.gif
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Well probably you have yet to enter (so i believe or recall from my historical text book) the age of discovery, there's no harm in one thinking that the world is still squarish in nature but whether one has progress beyond that stage where chasity belts, sticking heads on pikes and the mere sight of fire is considered witch craft.

My boundary is bendable both ways, i can flex mine beyond the limits of tradition to the liberal extreme but what about yours? ITs only the ideas that r harden and ingrained in a person that it becomes a foundation that they r so fearful to test those boundaries, have u felt the temptation and the lust of another? To speak as oneself being holier than thou is a hypocracy since one has yet to fully understood the nature of such guilty pleasures.

So in reference to the topic i tell the TS, go forth and seek ye the pleasures of life!

On the contrary society has progressed (refering to Hawks statement, sleeping from tree to tree has already existed before the dawn of the century) for centuries even with the existence of such liberal behaviour, its only now that we enter the 21st century that the true freedom has been endowned upon this very generation.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Dec 10 2008, 04:34 PM)
There's nothing wrong with it per se, if you understand why those moral values exists, and choose to stick by them, its cool smile.gif

The problem I see is that people are repressing an essential part of them, and that leads to improperly developed individuals.
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On the contrary, we r discussing on an issue that goes beyond just moral values which r limiting the potential of human growth that one can truly experience life's pleasures.

It doesnt necessarily mean that we totally disregard moral but its merely plays a tiny part in the equation of decision making, like Darklight79 said he was once fallen into the guilty pleasures in life and now his back on his foot... Isn't it a great example of liberalism to the extreme of both tradition and liberalism?


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QUOTE(lux @ Dec 10 2008, 05:03 PM)
I don't know about u, but I'm clear on what I want and don't want in my life. I don't feel the need or desire to test those boundaries, because, what is there to prove? Like I mentioned in my earlier post, I enjoy the arguments on this thread. To know what people are actually thinking in relation to this topic. U may have ur own stance/belief/whatever in life. Doesn't mean that everyone thinks the way u do, or that "conventional thinking" should be damned to hell just because U don't give a shit about it. whistling.gif
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Likewise i enjoy the company of learned people, not to argue but to seek mutual acceptance of an idea. Notwithstanding the fact one may reject or refuse to accept it, it is entirely of course acceptable to me since I shall not be the one who lit the fuse of revolution or coup de tat overnight in a person who digress or contrary to my opinons.

There's nothing to be proved or gained in a forum merely (probably) dented pride unless you wanted to challenge me to a duel of russian rouleutte the sacrifice would prolly be eithe of our lives. A forum is a place where intellects gather to contribute ideas (whether frivilous in nature or the gospel truth remains to be tested).

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 10 2008, 10:12 PM)
Careful. =) In that case, you shouldn't be so patronizing. I don't think you know me well enough to describe me as having "squarish" perceptions. The experiences you so crave for are not as blissful as you think they are.
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that wasnt intended to be a compliment or criticism it doesnt equate to patronizing, likewise i was being mischievous to an extent playful with my comments. If u take it to the extent that I am partonizing you, that is certainly not the very case.

I treat everyone on forum as my peers nothing lesser or nothing more than that.

Furthermore, I have found my comments deleted without any reasoning of satisfactory justification by moderator.

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