depends how you look at it. but mind, would your future gf approve of it? will it change the way she's gonna look at you, no matter how good a guy you are?

why are they worse than hookers? why is it sad if both bf/gf are into such activities? Why are ye so judgemental?

Everyone has different "needs", if they can get it without harming people, its ok. Would I like it if my partner is doing it behind my back? of course not. However if its something we discussed and agreed on, then its a different story.

Some people just don't get intimacy/romance they need out of their partner, maybe the guy ejaculates after 3 seconds and doesn't know how to please a woman, but is great in everything else. So the only logical choice for the girl, is to find a f*ck buddy. It may not be the "right" thing to do, but how many people will actually throw away a partner that fulfils 90% of their requirements to achieve get that missing 10%? Very very few, that is why you get so many people cheating.

Society has always been f**ked up. Its f**ked up now too, but not in the way you think. Sexuality has been made so taboo, that people are incredibly confused. Girls are shunned when they express their sexuality, and guys are now raised too softly, that they are no longer in-tune with their more aggressive instincts which is what attracts women. So you get a society where women pair up with the majority of men who are "soft", hiding their sexuality and only showing it in secret affair.

Not many people are capable of compartmentalizing love and sex. Once you've had enough of it, sex tends to feel empty because it's just another partner. And when you finally realize you can compartmentalize these 2 elements repeatedly, it becomes frightening because we tend to lose a lil' bit of our humanity everytime we do so. It's when you have a more profound connection with someone you care about then only will it feel special again.
i hear ya. Y'know... despite the impression I give people that I'm a wild child, my thoughts echo your sentiments. I can be extremely loyal if I'm in a relationship and I would be devastated if my partner were to do that to me. Like you, the sanctity of a relationship is something i would guard with the utmost of my abilities. I've stepped into pretty dark paths before and those memories are something which I'm not proud of. Youth, impetuousness and an overdosage of male hormones are a dangerous combination.

Some people, just can't change. Some people no matter how much you try to "awaken" them, they will remain the way they are. Its stupid to assume couples do not try to work things out, they often go to great lengths to do it before actually succumbing to external pressure. I'm not justifying their actions, because I don't think its either right/wrong. Its just the way the world is, and this aspect of human relationship has never changed and its unlikely it ever will.

Being in-tune with your sexuality doesn't mean you go around humping everyone. It just means being comfortable about your body and sexuality. When both genders understand this, they'll find partners that suit them and stick to them. Because then you realise what YOU want/need, not based on society's stupid taboos and pressure. You don't have to be afraid of expressing something "taboo" that you need in a relationship.

Should they? Up to them I say. It already happens, men sleeping with other women, women sleeping with other men, most of the times, the partners know they're cheating on each other too. They just turn a blind-eye to it. Some people even share their partners voluntarily (Swingers). Whether it works, depends on the type of relationship between the couple.

The sexual repression i'm talking about, is not about "moral values". It seems you totally missed the point. The repression is the CAUSE of all these problems to begin with. You can express your sexuality, you can be active and indulge in it... all while maintaining and respecting the sanctity of a relationship. The keypoint to understand here is that to do this, you need to understand  and be in-touch with your sexuality. If not, you won't know how to handle it, you won't know what you want/need and thus you will always want to "explore", guess what that leads to?
My my... bitter aren't you? are you really any different? We are all human, we all have a degree of selfishness, and when it comes to love, it is inherently selfish. You have to care for yourself first before you can care for your partner. If your own needs are not met, how can you meet the needs of your partner? A relationship works when both sides fulfil each other's needs.

I don't know why people like you are so pissed about stuff like this. Sure it hurts the other party, sure it isn't the "right" thing to do, but you know what? Its irrelevant. Those who are hurt will move on, its a sign that the relationship wasn't meant to be in the first place. Those who cheat will get what's coming to them anyway, and sometimes the cheaters turn out to be the better match. I rather people make these mistakes earlier than later.

Rule number 1, never ever  tell your future gf about your dark history

Of course its intertwined, the point is that morally, sexuality has been repressed, it needs to be accepted. That doesn't mean you go around humping sheep though... People should learn that sex is NORMAL, and that women need it just as much as men. Its an essential part of human relationship, and its sad that most people just don't get to develop their sexuality properly.
I don't disagree, but sometimes... couples cheat emotionally and not just sexually. Regardless of what the needs are, if they don't get it from their partner, they will get it elsewhere. The point is, people need to learn to let go, and expect that such things will happen, such naivety is unhealthy to begin with. 
Yeap, I agree wholeheartedly However, most people will not leave their comfort zones unless forced to. Which is why I actually don't mind people cheating and getting found out. Its better for everyone involved in the long run.

don't bring it up at all, even if u have changed after u have a bf/gf once she found out, it will never be the same thats my point

Like i mentioned earlier but probably in a more crude manner, there's a fine line between urban living and those who live in small towns where the air is still fresh, the mind is still pure, naive and innocent.

If u urself or any forumner here for this instance, live life as an urbanite it can be a very lonely, fast paced, long hours at work, chasing the corporate ladder, back stabbing, risk taking and no time for r/ships kind of life. In the first place i wouldnt be suprised if "one night stand" culture was first made popular by urbanites, whom sort after the "highs" or the andrenaline rush of a promiscious r/ship. all this are implanted in us by peers around us, corporations and our boss, we engrain ourselves we so much thrash and 101 ways to bend the law that i find simple people have close to zero moral conscience in the company. there is nothing that can change the fact that more and more places or going to urbanize and more and more people will be suxked into it.

We live in the 21st century my friend, conscience, morals, marriage, religion, ethics means nothing or to some extent considered old fashioned or outdated(as for me Medievil). We are living in a world that is opening up so far and spreading a new culture and tread that we should endorse and embrace wholly should be for our own benefit or interest.

If it is to the extent consensual by the partners to indulge themselves in multiple r/ships, than the answer would be why not?

So my fellow forumners...

Looks urselves in the mirror and ask yourselves what have you done right morally, ethically or your conscience for that matter. So long as no harm is done to another, than i say why not?

its exactly what i was trying to point out, probably in a more vague sense. If my gf were to leave me today for another guy or for whatever the reason, I would probably say thank you it feels liberating! This is a r/ship that we have built together and if we shud part from this, definately no regrets. If u ask me why, i seriously dont know?

Do i trust her with all my heart? No
Do I love her? yes
Do i love her whole heartedly? Maybe
Will she cheat on me? possible

Final Question
Do we both sleep well at night? Absolutely.
Fact or fiction you decide, i d believe that people in smaller towns live a more healtier lifestyle. Personally I am from one and when i came to KL, obviously the exposure working and personal is much more extreme. Density maybe part of the argument, but seriously any urban area is of course a beacon for all sorts of people and a melting pot for all sorts of cultures that we bring along.

To my learned friends (above)...
I have never been the sort of people who follows the textbooks / proven ways that hasnt been written down and imprinted into some circuit board in our brain, look at us all we look like some massively manufactured bunch of drift wood without any essence nor motivation to think for ourselves.

I belive personally to challenge the boundaries asn seek out new alternative, if we keep on holding on to those Medievil values how far are to progress? It only acts to guide us not restrict us, we will bend it to suit our needs when and if necessary.

Otherwise, the learned friends I have mentioend... ur still living and thinking in a world that is still squarish rather than oval.

There's nothing wrong with it per se, if you understand why those moral values exists, and choose to stick by them, its cool

The problem I see is that people are repressing an essential part of them, and that leads to improperly developed individuals.

Well probably you have yet to enter (so i believe or recall from my historical text book) the age of discovery, there's no harm in one thinking that the world is still squarish in nature but whether one has progress beyond that stage where chasity belts, sticking heads on pikes and the mere sight of fire is considered witch craft.

My boundary is bendable both ways, i can flex mine beyond the limits of tradition to the liberal extreme but what about yours? ITs only the ideas that r harden and ingrained in a person that it becomes a foundation that they r so fearful to test those boundaries, have u felt the temptation and the lust of another? To speak as oneself being holier than thou is a hypocracy since one has yet to fully understood the nature of such guilty pleasures.

So in reference to the topic i tell the TS, go forth and seek ye the pleasures of life!

On the contrary society has progressed (refering to Hawks statement, sleeping from tree to tree has already existed before the dawn of the century) for centuries even with the existence of such liberal behaviour, its only now that we enter the 21st century that the true freedom has been endowned upon this very generation.

The point I've been trying to get across to you seems to be lost. Repressing feelings is not a good thing, you must learn to control them, and to control them, you must accept what these feelings are. The more you repress, the worse it gets as time goes on. A lot of cases of cheating happen due to such repression, then when they can't take it anymore, it explodes... and they take a ride on the downward spiral roller coaster!

Its not easy to get what you want AND need, that's what a partner is for. As darklight has mentioned, casual sex is fun at first, but its unfulfilling, its missing the emotional component that is important, and that you only get from a partner. Finding such a partner is not easy, maintaining someone like that isn't easy either.

The problem is, currently, people get together with someone else, and repress themselves because they think "its not right", but they really want to. So what they show is a facade, its fake. So the relationship starts out on a false pretence, its stupid. People need to stop pretending, and for people to stop pretending, society needs to be less judgemental.