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lux
post Dec 10 2008, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(dr3w @ Dec 10 2008, 12:57 PM)
don't bring it up at all, even if u have changed after u have a bf/gf once she found out, it will never be the same thats my point
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What's the point of being in a relationship if u can't come clean, and be open and honest about ur part experience? It's pretty one sided. If u already know that it would bother ur other half if he or she found out and couldn't accept ur past, it would still be selfish to pursue that relationship, wouldn't it? I honestly don't see how that relationship would work out. That's why it begets me why people always chant the motto "live without regrets", really live it, and then later be sorry that they couldn't take the past away. Youths now are confident, stubborn and arrogant, and just foolish.
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post Dec 10 2008, 03:15 PM

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sorry have to said this..

i hate this think twice not bout open minded onot

answer urself do u care if ur gf is virgin o not..that all


Added on December 10, 2008, 3:16 pm
QUOTE(jagadis @ Dec 9 2008, 11:56 PM)
wow....whats ur secret?
How come u can get chances like dat?
Just make sure their boyfriends aren't stronger than u....

Also keep this in ur mind........"What goes aroun...comes around"
How will u feel when sum other guy does it with ur gf?
will u still think that it was only for fun and it is ok?
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post Dec 10 2008, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(lux @ Dec 10 2008, 12:54 PM)
I do think that society now is a lot more open towards sex and it's no longer considered a really taboo subject in urban areas. It's just that what TS has highlighted here is promiscuity. Casual sex, next to dining and movies? Like he (or his friend) highlighted, "it's just a feel good activity for both parties". While so many people, especially the ones who don't have a moral conscience to question that kind of statement, must be feeling great joy, liberation, even. If so many people are doing it, screw my conscience! As it is, I don't know, maybe they learnt it from their parents' swinging parties, or maybe even discovering that their parents started having f*** buddies to feel young or something. Imagine the kinds of things they will teach their children about sexuality
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Like i mentioned earlier but probably in a more crude manner, there's a fine line between urban living and those who live in small towns where the air is still fresh, the mind is still pure, naive and innocent.

If u urself or any forumner here for this instance, live life as an urbanite it can be a very lonely, fast paced, long hours at work, chasing the corporate ladder, back stabbing, risk taking and no time for r/ships kind of life. In the first place i wouldnt be suprised if "one night stand" culture was first made popular by urbanites, whom sort after the "highs" or the andrenaline rush of a promiscious r/ship. all this are implanted in us by peers around us, corporations and our boss, we engrain ourselves we so much thrash and 101 ways to bend the law that i find simple people have close to zero moral conscience in the company. there is nothing that can change the fact that more and more places or going to urbanize and more and more people will be suxked into it.

We live in the 21st century my friend, conscience, morals, marriage, religion, ethics means nothing or to some extent considered old fashioned or outdated(as for me Medievil). We are living in a world that is opening up so far and spreading a new culture and tread that we should endorse and embrace wholly should be for our own benefit or interest.

If it is to the extent consensual by the partners to indulge themselves in multiple r/ships, than the answer would be why not?

So my fellow forumners...

Looks urselves in the mirror and ask yourselves what have you done right morally, ethically or your conscience for that matter. So long as no harm is done to another, than i say why not?

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post Dec 10 2008, 03:49 PM

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sometimes if u have sex too much and 1 day when a pretty girl naked and u wont stim de, even she help u blow job or wat
trust me
i try this b4
hahaha

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post Dec 10 2008, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 10 2008, 12:18 PM)
To some extent, if the we can really see through into people's thought I believe 99% of us will cheat on our partners. Whether we put our thoughts into action is another matter all together.

But to distrust our partners or have continued paranoid as though the other partner would run of into the sunset with another would be even more detrimental compared to doing nothing,.
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Distrust? No.. you trust them. You just accept the fact that if they cheat, they're not for you. Instead of thinking "it won't happen to me". When you're in the thought of "she may cheat", you start appreciating her more, and thus you treat her better. You give her reason to NOT cheat. If she does anyway, hey.. you've done your best, it wasn't meant to be. Move on.

Easier said than done of course, but this aspect of society HAS NEVER changed, its the same 3000 years ago and it is now. You can't change society, but you can change yourself.

QUOTE(lux @ Dec 10 2008, 12:54 PM)
I do think that society now is a lot more open towards sex and it's no longer considered a really taboo subject in urban areas. It's just that what TS has highlighted here is promiscuity. Casual sex, next to dining and movies? Like he (or his friend) highlighted, "it's just a feel good activity for both parties". While so many people, especially the ones who don't have a moral conscience to question that kind of statement, must be feeling great joy, liberation, even. If so many people are doing it, screw my conscience! As it is, I don't know, maybe they learnt it from their parents' swinging parties, or maybe even discovering that their parents started having f*** buddies to feel young or something. Imagine the kinds of things they will teach their children about sexuality
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Why must things be so extreme for you? There's always a nice middle ground. I'm cool with casual sex, but I won't do it with someone who's taken. Its still "taboo", people talk about it.. but only among closed circles or anonymously. Look at your reaction, who would want to be judged by others like that?

QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 10 2008, 03:31 PM)
Like i mentioned earlier but probably in a more crude manner, there's a fine line between urban living and those who live in small towns where the air is still fresh, the mind is still pure, naive and innocent.

If u urself or any forumner here for this instance, live life as an urbanite it can be a very lonely, fast paced, long hours at work, chasing the corporate ladder, back stabbing, risk taking and no time for r/ships kind of life. In the first place i wouldnt be suprised if "one night stand" culture was first made popular by urbanites, whom sort after the "highs" or the andrenaline rush of a promiscious r/ship. all this are implanted in us by peers around us, corporations and our boss, we engrain ourselves we so much thrash and 101 ways to bend the law that i find simple people have close to zero moral conscience in the company. there is nothing that can change the fact that more and more places or going to urbanize and more and more people will be suxked into it.

We live in the 21st century my friend, conscience, morals, marriage, religion, ethics means nothing or to some extent considered old fashioned or outdated(as for me Medievil). We are living in a world that is opening up so far and spreading a new culture and tread that we should endorse and embrace wholly should be for our own benefit or interest.
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Oh c`mon, its not only an urban thing. If anything, the only difference urban living makes is the population density. That just means a higher frequency/occurrence of any activity. Its not so much about the lifestyle. All this sleeping around has existed since the dawn of mankind, its never going to stop, but that doesn't mean you need to do it too. Its up to you to decide whether you can live with your actions or not.
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post Dec 10 2008, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 10 2008, 03:31 PM)
Like i mentioned earlier but probably in a more crude manner, there's a fine line between urban living and those who live in small towns where the air is still fresh, the mind is still pure, naive and innocent.

If u urself or any forumner here for this instance, live life as an urbanite it can be a very lonely, fast paced, long hours at work, chasing the corporate ladder, back stabbing, risk taking and no time for r/ships kind of life. In the first place i wouldnt be suprised if "one night stand" culture was first made popular by urbanites, whom sort after the "highs" or the andrenaline rush of a promiscious r/ship. all this are implanted in us by peers around us, corporations and our boss, we engrain ourselves we so much thrash and 101 ways to bend the law that i find simple people have close to zero moral conscience in the company. there is nothing that can change the fact that more and more places or going to urbanize and more and more people will be suxked into it.

We live in the 21st century my friend, conscience, morals, marriage, religion, ethics means nothing or to some extent considered old fashioned or outdated(as for me Medievil). We are living in a world that is opening up so far and spreading a new culture and tread that we should endorse and embrace wholly should be for our own benefit or interest.

If it is to the extent consensual by the partners to indulge themselves in multiple r/ships, than the answer would be why not?

So my fellow forumners...

Looks urselves in the mirror and ask yourselves what have you done right morally, ethically or your conscience for that matter. So long as no harm is done to another, than i say why not?
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Yes, ur so right, bro. "conscience, morals, marriage, religion, ethics means nothing or to some extent considered old fashioned or outdated(as for me Medievil)". No one plays by those rules anymore. Everyone is just living on the edge, to fulfill and indulge in their self serving pleasure. Live with no regrets, only if u can deal with the circumstance later.
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post Dec 10 2008, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(lux @ Dec 10 2008, 03:59 PM)
Yes, ur so right, bro. "conscience, morals, marriage, religion, ethics means nothing or to some extent considered old fashioned or outdated(as for me Medievil)". No one plays by those rules anymore. Everyone is just living on the edge, to fulfill and indulge in their self serving pleasure. Live with no regrets, only if u can deal with the circumstance later.
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Sigh... chill. They'll learn sooner or later. We cannot change the way people think. Which is why wisdom is never innate, it is acquired.
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hello silverhawk ...

yawn.gif yawn.gif

End of the day is individual , you wan to do it , do it , if its against your ways of life , den choose not to do it ...

You dun expect things or matter to mend to suit your liking, you hav to change urself to see changes in front of you ...

hmm .. blur mode ... go back other thread
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QUOTE(dEvILrOx @ Dec 10 2008, 04:03 PM)
hello silverhawk ...

yawn.gif  yawn.gif

End of the day is individual , you wan to do it , do it , if its against your ways of life , den choose not to do it ...

You dun expect things or matter to mend to suit your liking, you hav to change urself to see changes in front of you ...

hmm .. blur mode ... go back other thread
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post Dec 10 2008, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Dec 10 2008, 04:04 PM)
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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Dec 10 2008, 04:06 PM)
wahh u vegetarian suddenly?
i tot he kena grill oledi lulz
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Who got grilled ? hmm now vegetarian lo , no blood to suck brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(^Hobbes^ @ Dec 10 2008, 04:06 PM)
wahh u vegetarian suddenly?
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post Dec 10 2008, 04:10 PM

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its exactly what i was trying to point out, probably in a more vague sense. If my gf were to leave me today for another guy or for whatever the reason, I would probably say thank you it feels liberating! This is a r/ship that we have built together and if we shud part from this, definately no regrets. If u ask me why, i seriously dont know?

Do i trust her with all my heart? No
Do I love her? yes
Do i love her whole heartedly? Maybe
Will she cheat on me? possible

Final Question
Do we both sleep well at night? Absolutely.

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Oh c`mon, its not only an urban thing. If anything, the only difference urban living makes is the population density. That just means a higher frequency/occurrence of any activity. Its not so much about the lifestyle. All this sleeping around has existed since the dawn of mankind, its never going to stop, but that doesn't mean you need to do it too. Its up to you to decide whether you can live with your actions or not.


Fact or fiction you decide, i d believe that people in smaller towns live a more healtier lifestyle. Personally I am from one and when i came to KL, obviously the exposure working and personal is much more extreme. Density maybe part of the argument, but seriously any urban area is of course a beacon for all sorts of people and a melting pot for all sorts of cultures that we bring along.

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1 night stand ...

wake up look at each other , do i noe u ?

den A will like oh i went into the wrong house, was drunk , thanks for letting me overnite and sorry for disturbing

the B will be like , nah its okie, you're kinda tired as well , hey y dun we bcome friends , my name is xxx

den A like oh my name is xxx , very sorry

B like its cool ~ no worries, guilty ? spend me breakfast

A like alrite ... Your choice

B like hmm starbucks ?

A okie ...


den dating ... ending up couple ... the power of 1 night stand ~~ whistling.gif
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QUOTE(lux @ Dec 10 2008, 03:59 PM)
Yes, ur so right, bro. "conscience, morals, marriage, religion, ethics means nothing or to some extent considered old fashioned or outdated(as for me Medievil)". No one plays by those rules anymore. Everyone is just living on the edge, to fulfill and indulge in their self serving pleasure. Live with no regrets, only if u can deal with the circumstance later.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 10 2008, 04:03 PM)
Sigh... chill. They'll learn sooner or later. We cannot change the way people think. Which is why wisdom is never innate, it is acquired.
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To my learned friends (above)...
I have never been the sort of people who follows the textbooks / proven ways that hasnt been written down and imprinted into some circuit board in our brain, look at us all we look like some massively manufactured bunch of drift wood without any essence nor motivation to think for ourselves.

I belive personally to challenge the boundaries asn seek out new alternative, if we keep on holding on to those Medievil values how far are to progress? It only acts to guide us not restrict us, we will bend it to suit our needs when and if necessary.

Otherwise, the learned friends I have mentioend... ur still living and thinking in a world that is still squarish rather than oval.
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 10 2008, 04:10 PM)
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its exactly what i was trying to point out, probably in a more vague sense. If my gf were to leave me today for another guy or for whatever the reason, I would probably say thank you it feels liberating! This is a r/ship that we have built together and if we shud part from this, definately no regrets. If u ask me why, i seriously dont know?

Do i trust her with all my heart? No
Do I love her? yes
Do i love her whole heartedly? Maybe
Will she cheat on me? possible

Final Question
Do we both sleep well at night? Absolutely.
Fact or fiction you decide, i d believe that people in smaller towns live a more healtier lifestyle. Personally I am from one and when i came to KL, obviously the exposure working and personal is much more extreme. Density maybe part of the argument, but seriously any urban area is of course a beacon for all sorts of people and a melting pot for all sorts of cultures that we bring along.
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Seconded. The peer pressure is there with density, and people are naturally competitive. Those who are mentally weak will succumb easily and absorb any culture that invites them with welcome arms. Temptation is best shared, so no longer should anyone feel any guilt indulging in their dirty little pleasures.
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 10 2008, 04:10 PM)
Fact or fiction you decide, i d believe that people in smaller towns live a more healtier lifestyle. Personally I am from one and when i came to KL, obviously the exposure working and personal is much more extreme. Density maybe part of the argument, but seriously any urban area is of course a beacon for all sorts of people and a melting pot for all sorts of cultures that we bring along.
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I'm born and raised in KL, my parents and majority of my cousins though, are small town folk. Healthier lifestyle, perhaps, but in the context of this topic... I don't see a difference. The same shit goes on.
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 10 2008, 04:19 PM)
To my learned friends (above)...
I have never been the sort of people who follows the textbooks / proven ways that hasnt been written down and imprinted into some circuit board in our brain, look at us all we look like some massively manufactured bunch of drift wood without any essence nor motivation to think for ourselves.

I belive personally to challenge the boundaries asn seek out new alternative, if we keep on holding on to those Medievil values how far are to progress? It only acts to guide us not restrict us, we will bend it to suit our needs when and if necessary.

Otherwise, the learned friends I have mentioend... ur still living and thinking in a world that is still squarish rather than oval.
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What's wrong with thinking and living in a "squarish" world? Just because we do have our own "Medieval" ideals, that doesn't mean that we don't have our own sets of beliefs and boundaries to bend. Also in relation to this topic, what kind of boundaries or alternatives are we supposed to challenge or seek in sexual promiscuity? How does this benefit society's progress if not for their own self serving pleasure? hmm.gif Perhaps u could enlighten us. Along with guys out there who still want "virgin wives", it's really funny how hypocritical people can be. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lux @ Dec 10 2008, 04:20 PM)
Seconded. The peer pressure is there with density, and people are naturally competitive. Those who are mentally weak will succumb easily and absorb any culture that invites them with welcome arms. Temptation is best shared, so no longer should anyone feel any guilt indulging in their dirty little pleasures.
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There r weak ppl, strong people, naive people but we can just simple generalize everything as being bad. Take yourself for example, havent you yourself fallen into some sort of negative culture, lust, temptation, what is wrong enjoying those guilty pleasures in life dont we all enjoy them now andd than but to describe this little pleasures as being "dirty" is surely hypocracy and the usage of a poor choice of words and perception.

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Dec 10 2008, 04:26 PM)
I'm born and raised in KL, my parents and majority of my cousins though, are small town folk. Healthier lifestyle, perhaps, but in the context of this topic... I don't see a difference. The same shit goes on.
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Fact or fiction u decide, ur certainly entitled to your opinion but others might beg to differ.


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