bad engineering. the chances of dropping his dna into a raging ravine can spawn homosapiens is as almost impossible

Thing is, it happened. So, it's possible and, maybe they knew it's possible?

Prometheus is awesome on : special effects, acting by Michael Fassbender as David ( ice cold robot). But almost the rest is verging on foolishness form the plot and screenplay.

Enjoyed the movie. But my question are
1. Why at the start of the movie one engineer drink something and died? What the meaning of that?
2. After getting 50 mil on opening week, what the chances now on a sequel?
3. If there a sequel hope it won't be this same lost writer bcs he good at writing scripts with many questions but then give really stupid answers like what he did with lost. That ruind the years I spent watching lost.

1) Every big things has small beginnings
2) Wait for the international gross and also the 2nd week to gauge
3) That is how they can do more sequels

I love this quote for some reason, from "Lawrence of the Arabia"





This post has been edited by defaultname365: Jun 14 2012, 09:50 PM

Which is why many regard as one of the very top movies ever made. There are lots of classics but today's movie goers probably will ignore classic legends as ancient for today's 'legend' Cameron's and Nolan's

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Jun 14 2012, 10:41 PM

They say he sacrifice himself so his DNA created human race?? Water mix his DNA to make human???

is anyone in KL wan2 watch this movie with me this next wee? i have 3 extra free ticket for coming week

ok, it's (just) a story.

i dont think ridley sets out for us on a bona-fide science education trip on evolution of human race (though a lot of the other aspects such as landscapes in the movie were consulted with NASA's images, the engineering on the prometheus ship, although concepts, the medical, ship etc were proper consultation/development from 3D drawings).

however, i don't think we want to there on, Why this, Why that, IS this Even possible, I think the makers well, ridleys want the fans to make their own assumption on "Who are we", Here's his story, and btw (ridley says) it can be scary .

As in how elizabeth, a scientist believes in religion because she choose to "believe".




there were comments/questions on other Prometheus forums that..
among it...


there are times i wish i can bat their heads


relax la bros

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Jun 15 2012, 10:51 AM

"JUST ADD WATER"

1. I still haven't read enough to conclude, was the act intentional? There are mentions of rebel Engineers..and unfilmed scene that an elder Engineer offered the younger Engineer the black goo. Is the one in the opening act a rebel? Then the other Engineers tried to destroy the resulting earthlings coz that wasn't in their plan? Anyway, was it mentioned how long since the mixing of the DNAs with H2O that human beings appeared? For all we know, it's just the beginning of evolution, with the external DNA a trigger ingredient in the primodial soup, and took billions of years (but then, how come the Engineers race didn't improve along much? heheh, more questions ... )

2. The box-office of 50million for a R-rated film in US is above expectation. Prometheus held the box office throne in the United Kingdom (Ridley Scott's country) coz no Madagascar 3 to compete. Overall, it did 90millions internationally (RM2juta in Malaysia). Not bad. Blu-rays and DVDs still to come after theatrical runs. (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=prometheus.htm)

3. I guess that's why the producers or the director brought Lindelof in, to provide the 'religious' viewpoint. As we know, LOST ending is very religiously biased. In a way, I was satisfied with the series ending ... from the emotional aspect. From the logical aspect which demands clear cut answers, one is bound to be disappointed. As with most religions, one have to rely on faith, personal emotional experience ... not empirical explanations. (see Contact)


Ya, Ridley Scott isn't the preachy type of director. Even with Kingdom of Heaven, he tried to balance both the Islamic and Christian Crusaders points ...
I guess with old age, one tends to more religious (to be on the safe side) and he's using his current movies to include some religion/creation themes, but not too 'atheist' ... more to agnostic ... open minded. I'd liken Naomi's Shaw character to Jodie Foster's Arroway character in Contact ... both a scientist who like to believe (altho one only realized it in the end) and both gets 'invitation' to meet the 'higher beings' ... I only hope Prometheus sequel doesn't go the "oh, we're not the prime movers, there were others before us".

Btw, a cool post ....
http://www.m.prometheus-movie.com/communit...rums/topic/7487

I guess that part was properly scientifically consulted ...

This post has been edited by r2t2: Jun 15 2012, 11:38 AM

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This post has been edited by r2t2: Jun 15 2012, 11:37 AM

Hmm, this thread has accumulated 10-11 pages of post-movie discussions either consisting of questions or possible theories relating to Prometheus. Not to mention other Prometheus forums where the post-movie discussions have surmounted to 50 pages! 50!

Whether its bad writing or plotholes, I think the fact that ppl all over the net are so intrigued rummaging for answers within Prometheus proves in itself that the film is a success. This is one of those movies where I simply hate yet love.

Mr. Ridley is probably now at home reading abt all the discussions here on the net and laughing off the many theories ppl have come up with.

Hey guys to know what David said to the Engineer at the end have to waits for months till the dvd ar??? Did anyone manage to crack it already. Any fan out there who can speak ancient language?lol

Well the biological aspect was definitely not being scientifically consulted...

Any biologist with the most basic credentials will point out the serious errors as presented in the movie.

1. Free flowing DNA in raging water. DNA alone does not produce life and being dispersed at such a large volume of water will bring the probability of proteins and random DNA coming together to 0%. For life to start you need shallow concentrated pools with random chemicals forming amino acids, lipids and probable nucleic acids.

2. The DNA was shown to be very short fragments (100bp or less) single stranded DNA. To be broken down to such an extend and to able to reform back to the engineers' original chromosomal sequences is again 0%. Homo sapien is not the only hominid in evolutionary history nor are humans the only animal species in the world. This relation is a fixed genetic variability can be calculated and determined.

3. The human genome (3 Gigabase haploid) is a testament of evolution, about only 2% codes for proteins and another 2% are are transcriptional involved, while the rest of the genome is yet unknown but it's safe to say for a fully functional human, a much lesser genome size can exist (probably just 20% is needed). Which is also why human as the most successful species now, does not have the largest genome in the animal kingdom. Some "lower" level fish can even have a larger genome than human. Accumulation of large non-functional regions of the genome is a testament of the evolutionary, life span, breeding frequency... etc. Because of the presumed long life span of the Engineers, their genome has to be different than human's. Even though an Engineer looks like YaoMing their genome can be/has to be different, and due to convergent evolution (as there are many examples on earth) similar characteristics/structure can exist.

4. A Eukaryotic somatic cell division was shown, this is not the first lifeforms on earth .... an argument can be made as showing further down time progression though.

Therefore Ripley Scott and the Lost script writer (and another) are out of their league. If you bring in a concept make sure you have the current science to back it up. Science fiction of old cannot be utilised now. If you don't know anything SciFi it out of your imagination shows the person's stupidity (is the best way that I can put it). This in a way is reflective/testament of the effort put in by Joss Whedon by putting SciFi and real science hand in hand that blew everyone away in the box-office (except James Cameron, another director working/consulting with the scientific community)

This post has been edited by BeastX: Jun 15 2012, 05:03 PM

We got trolled by Mr. Scott ...
Anyway, there are movies worth the time for discussion even if they're straightforward. Prometheus, being part of the approved Alien-canon movies, is one; then, there are the intentionally left unanswered questions. While it does not necessarily make it an intelligent movie, it does provoke more than some thoughts.

Not sure if the subtitles for the 'alien' language will be provided in the blu-ray/dvd, coz the director purposely don't want the audience to know the translation ... whether that's important or not, we don't know yet. If it's important to the storyline, then we'll only know the clear answer in sequels. But, if the ancient language is based on earthly ancient language, nothing-better-to-do fans might try to decipher it.
Or, just ask directly from these people :- Anil Biltoo, Wambui Kunya, Sonam Dugdak, Shin Okajima, Kay Rienjang, Zed Sevcikova and Reynir Eggertsson.
From imbd trivia, "Ridley Scott approached SOAS (School of Oriental and African Studies), University of London, in 2011 to find experts who could help create a new language for the film. Anil Biltoo from SOAS' Language Centre worked to create the language, as well as the alien script, which can be seen throughout. Anil Biltoo can be seen briefly in a scene with Michael Fassbender." as well as other SOAS staff members (aforementioned names) that appeared briefly and are credited.

This post has been edited by r2t2: Jun 15 2012, 04:52 PM