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Movies The ALIEN Movies Thread, Prometheus 2: PARADISE LOST (2017)
Movies The ALIEN Movies Thread, Prometheus 2: PARADISE LOST (2017)
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Mar 18 2012, 03:04 PM
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Superb vision from ridley scott. Top form
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Mar 19 2012, 01:01 AM
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anyone with the good skill in hacking or would be able to decipher the password??
http://www.projectprometheus.com/245409/ http://www.movieviral.com/2012/03/18/prome...s-at-wondercon/ QUOTE The Weyland website has also been updated with an extensive corporate timeline for the company, starting in 1990, when founder Peter Weyland (played by Guy Pearce) was born. The latest entry to the timeline is Project Prometheus, which includes a link to a new website for said project. Unfortunately, the site is password protected, and the password has yet to be found. clues?? some viral marketing work that's being done https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/timeline Big things has small beginnings... This post has been edited by koolspyda: Mar 19 2012, 02:21 AM |
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Mar 20 2012, 01:24 AM
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ripley scott just knows sci fi
i liked the US trailer's cut. A lot more tempo in the music the international trailer... charlize theron!! (even if it was brief 1/2 second of her doing push up in.. & what's with her (charlize) with michael fassbender penis (reference) ? there is more glimpse of the space jockey appearing.. This post has been edited by koolspyda: Mar 29 2012, 04:19 AM |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(Frankmiller92 @ Apr 18 2012, 07:45 PM) Introducing David 8 Viral Video I thought his performance even in this little viral video was AMAZING!!! Totally captured the essence of a robot/Android can't wait to see the whole film!! This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 18 2012, 07:39 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(Frankmiller92 @ Apr 18 2012, 08:42 PM) The thing is today's movie goers esp those kids don't know quality.Francis ford Coppola, Stanley Kubrick, wont find a movie to direct as many will be saying the cant understand nor stand the pacing of their movies. Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey will bomb in today environment, much less only less then 1/2 who watch then understood that movie even then There is no better sci fi (thriller) story teller then Ridley Scott. I don't foresee ridley scott's prometheus surpassing even lame "hunger games". This plot might confuse movie goers who are used to watching "tv tube reality shows" . Go figure. This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 19 2012, 09:04 AM |
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Apr 19 2012, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(Frankmiller92 @ Apr 18 2012, 11:20 PM) Sadly, Sir Ridley Scott personally stated that moviegoers today loves to be challenged and do not expect to be spoon fed... I hope his faith in moviegoernity is rewarded... I would cry if this movie bombed like John Carter. Is this film Rated R or pg-13 now?? moviegoers challenged, yes; but the vast majority of "masses" that ensures some movies surpassing 'blockbuster' records, even holding titles aren't in ridleys scope of "not expecting some sort of spoon feeding moviegoers". QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 18 2012, 11:54 PM) Can't wait for this. i think its best to forget about previous 'alien' or the other dreadful 'alien vs crap', think nothing of the continuity...Still can not understand much from the trailer. Have to watch the movie. We knew the ending though when we watch the 'Alien'. Quite similar with 'Alien'...a distress call but it's a trap.(?) if there is any remedy to piece some jigsaw of 'Prometheus", just preview ridley's 'alien'. Don't think you need even cameron's "Aliens" nor finchers "Alien 3". (they are good on their own but it's more of ripleys survival) edit just watched the 'Prometheus' interview from the link, ridley mentioned it. This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 19 2012, 10:07 AM |
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Apr 19 2012, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(xy2610 @ Apr 19 2012, 03:24 PM) Seriously, the viral videos are very good so far. Naw, no reboot, reimaging (alien) necessary. They are able to stand on their own. Must say the David somewhat remind me of HAL. *Goosebump* Anyway, I pray that the movie is just as good. I can imagine a reboot is coming IF this movie is a success. I know a lot of people loathe that idea. But with what we've seen in the Prometheus trailer, I bet it will look epic at least. Many of us are looking fwd to Prometheus, don't want to generate wrong hype where some kiddo fans might ask "why so weird", "can it transformed into some mechanical...." This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 19 2012, 09:56 PM |
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Apr 30 2012, 06:14 PM
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Yup, the new trailer is pretty much will outline the whole Prometheus movie, might be a spoiler trailer-show-too-much for some.
still... I'm still wanna catch this more then any movie this year. I doubt this movie will hog this years fanboys blockbusters, dark knight rise, hunger games, avengers, battleship... Like This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 30 2012, 06:23 PM |
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Apr 30 2012, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(xy2610 @ Apr 30 2012, 07:17 PM) I still don't get the whole story. If I tell more, you might regret Wonder how is it showing too much...It is just fragments of scenes flashing every other seconds. So I'll give you the simpler version, » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Heheh I digress, Watched the mr Scott's interview that day, on how he wonder why no one talked about the space jockey post ridley's alien and how it became the angle for him to approach it with 'Prometheus' the movie, Ridley also gave hint (interview) if he was to approach another 'blade runner' movie, he might have the angle for one, on why man made 'replicants', a big "IF" he was interested to do it. This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 30 2012, 10:19 PM |
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Jun 9 2012, 03:54 PM
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All this pre takes, theories are awesome. Can't wait to be free to catch this. Like blade runner, its didnt serve A1 in terms of story but sci fi maniacs love it.
even if it leaves more questions then answers, the curiosity will drive critics to debate for years to come. Something Ridley Scott has a habit in doing. This post has been edited by koolspyda: Jun 9 2012, 03:57 PM |
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Jun 9 2012, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(Claire Farron @ Jun 9 2012, 05:05 PM) Awesome read QUOTE That should slap any naysayer in the face for claming prometheus not an intellectually deep film! In that, I must have the DvD when it comes out. |
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Jun 10 2012, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jun 10 2012, 01:21 AM) Brilliant film. I've watched it once only but in a space of three hours, I have gone from calling it a good film to labeling it as trash to coming to a conclusion that it is incredible and is an incredibly ambitious film that covers the themes of existentialism and religion. The more I think about it, the better I think the film is. I suppose we are in the groupings that ridlet regard as mere mortals. After all many dished his 'blade runner' when it came out, shun his movie then, only to realize we might have got it all wrong or too small to understand the concept /his concept films Regardless of which, even if you ignore the themes, it is an incredibly beautiful film to look at. This post has been edited by koolspyda: Jun 10 2012, 03:19 PM |
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Jun 12 2012, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(Claire Farron @ Jun 12 2012, 11:19 PM) Interview with Prometheus writer, Damon Lindelof, where he "answers" a few questions regarding the movie. Ridley feels the (better) audience needs the challenges; the question, debate about the movie; not to be spoon fed while watching a movie. Little wonder why there are those who need everything to in B&W for them http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1687022/p...-lindelof.jhtml So in the original script, the film was suppose to be more "Alieny" with facehuggers, old school xenemorphs and all. The Bluray/DVD is a must buy for sure Looks like never gonna tell us the answer to those... |
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Jun 13 2012, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(Claire Farron @ Jun 13 2012, 11:48 AM) Here, straight out of Damon Lindelof himself, word of god, Awesome, awesome, awesome http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1687022/p...-lindelof.jhtml |
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Jun 14 2012, 12:11 AM
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Prometheus is funking awesome. watched it just now.
damn you ridley! To those incapable to comprehend the movie, or felt the movie leaves too many ambiguous holes for you, or like a chap who walked past me during end credits said "what the funk did i just watch" to his friends... Don't be too hard to oneself, perhaps this movie is not meant for some. i suggest then indulge oneself to talking animals (madagascar 3), or even await for the highness nolan's DKR. i will pay to watch, again (ice queen) Meredith Vickers doing push ups. Added on June 14, 2012, 12:21 am QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 14 2012, 12:56 AM) What did David say in the beginning about pain... Been trying to recall what he said since it was a really awesome quote. What is it? David "The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts"This post has been edited by koolspyda: Jun 14 2012, 12:45 AM |
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Jun 14 2012, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jun 14 2012, 01:46 AM) of course, ridley did mentioned on one of the interviews, but he is the type to leave it open for interpretationperhaps to those who didnt catch all the viral video (of young guy pearce), here is the transcripts of that video Peter Weyland T.E. Lawrence, eponymously of Arabia but very much an Englishman, favoured pinching a burning match between his fingers to put it out. When asked by his colleague William Potter to reveal his trick, how is it he effectively extinguished the flame without hurting himself whatsoever, Lawrence just smiled and said, "The trick, Potter, is not minding it hurts." The fire that danced at the end of that match was a gift from the Titan Prometheus, a gift that he stole from the gods. And Prometheus was caught, and brought to justice for his theft. The gods, well, you might say they overreacted a little. The poor man was tied to a rock, as an eagle ripped through his belly and ate his liver over and over, day after day, ad infinitum. All because he gave us fire. Our first true gift of technology, fire... Peter Weyland 100,000 BC: stone tools. 4,000 BC: the wheel. 900 AD: gunpowder - bit of a game changer, that one. 19th century: eureka, the lightbulb! 20th century: the automobile, television, nuclear weapons, spacecrafts, Internet. 21st century: biotech, nanotech, fusion and fission and M theory - and THAT, was just the first decade! We are now three months into the year of our Lord, 2023. At this moment of our civilization, we can create cybernetic individuals, who in just a few short years will be completely indistinguishable from us. Which leads to an obvious conclusion: WE are the gods now. Peter Weyland: To those of you who know me: you will be aware by now that my ambition is unlimited. You know that I will settle for nothing short of greatness, or I will die trying. To those of you who do not yet know me: allow me to introduce myself. My name is Peter Weyland, and if you'll indulge me, I'd like to change the world. you can deduce that mr weyland is a driven man. a rich, a beyond imagination of wealth ambitious man, fuelled with desire to "go to extremes, to boldly go where no one has gone before" was catching up on one of the prometheus forums (discussions in 2011), apparently there were comics of the "alien" series. it touches also on the space jockey. picked a quote out. QUOTE ETA: The 'Elephant' or 'Space Jockies' aliens were given a bit more of a role in the books, one was floating around observing what was going on on Earth, and was communicating with one of the main characters telepathically. It was known that they were an ancient, technologically advanced race. QUOTE In a story I remember from one of my comics the Space Jockeys come to Earth to take it over. The President of the world goes up to meet them, and he has an alien inside him, he sacrifices himself for the planet. The SPs are terrified of the aliens and that's the end of their mission. i not saying one must read beforehand or to have a better understanding. i think it's not A must to read before one watch, but it only goes to show it's consistent to what was already OUT there, this ridley's prometheus movie. *I don't advocate one to MUST read books or comics to appreciate the movie. the movie can standalone. it's a choice of appreciation. This post has been edited by koolspyda: Jun 14 2012, 01:46 AM |
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Jun 14 2012, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(Brian O'Connor @ Jun 14 2012, 04:20 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(maxpudding @ Jun 14 2012, 12:05 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 14 2012, 10:49 PM) Which is why many regard as one of the very top movies ever made. There are lots of classics but today's movie goers probably will ignore classic legends as ancient for today's 'legend' Cameron's and Nolan's This post has been edited by koolspyda: Jun 14 2012, 10:41 PM |
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jun 14 2012, 11:50 PM) ok, it's (just) a story. i dont think ridley sets out for us on a bona-fide science education trip on evolution of human race (though a lot of the other aspects such as landscapes in the movie were consulted with NASA's images, the engineering on the prometheus ship, although concepts, the medical, ship etc were proper consultation/development from 3D drawings). however, i don't think we want to there on, Why this, Why that, IS this Even possible, I think the makers well, ridleys want the fans to make their own assumption on "Who are we", Here's his story, and btw (ridley says) it can be scary As in how elizabeth, a scientist believes in religion because she choose to "believe". there were comments/questions on other Prometheus forums that.. among it... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « there are times i wish i can bat their heads relax la bros This post has been edited by koolspyda: Jun 15 2012, 10:51 AM |
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Jun 16 2012, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 14 2012, 10:49 PM) QUOTE If human beings can create an intelligent life form like David-8 would that make us gods? If so what really is god? Would you worship something that is inferior in many ways, is Ridley trying to tell us something about our future? but also "There is nothing in the desert and no man needs nothing" and "Big things have small beginnings" An observation by some people (i know we dont really dig old movies or have the opportune to be exposed to such), but after a fair amount of reading, noting that not only david "qoutes"; he also fashion to look like peter o'toole as in the beginning of the movie where we see david spends his time watching old movies, researching languages, lots of reading, watching human dreams, playing solo basketball for about 2 years while the crew were cryosleeping. Read a blog entry, this is what she thought of it ; Click Link: The-trick-william-potter-is-not-minding-that-it-hurts < interesting observation. Now, did david (the andriod) who-has-no-soul is able to 'decide' or is able to make choices, independent from as what is is progammed or told by the crew/weyland (btw since we know his 'god' is peter weyland). an interesting concept ridley puts forth. what we know of *Thomas Edward Lawrence. QUOTE Lawrence was assigned to the cartography division in Cairo until they realzied his use in the field thanks to his knowledge of the Bedouin. Once unleased onto the desert, he became a force to be reckoned with, disobeying orders and orchestrating suprise attacks. -Both characters embraced their desolate wastelands as an adventure which to me is rather charming. Link above: what this writer says of david IF david is able to rehearse & quotes from "lawrence of arabia", he should by then able to act out/carry out the act to taking man's life (holloway) as there is a qoute in that (LOA) movie QUOTE T.E. Lawrence: I killed two people. One was... yesterday? He was just a boy and I led him into quicksand. The other was... well, before Aqaba. I had to execute him with my pistol, and there was something about it that I didn't like. General Allenby: That's to be expected. T.E. Lawrence: No, something else. General Allenby: Well, then let it be a lesson. T.E. Lawrence: No... something else. General Allenby: What then? T.E. Lawrence: I enjoyed it. QUOTE » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « While we all are debating what elizabeth or charlie or vickers, janek should have more role time. the pivotal character to me is (pretty much) david. And, david apparently choses to keep 'elizabeth' cross, given reasons of "contamination", yet he chooses to keep in his pocket and not quarantined. what is his reason to do so. How he chooses (if at all he can make choices independently), his obsession on humans (shaw dreams), on why "he appears" disdained at times by their choices yet could not comprehend shaws obsession on her choice to not return back to earth but seek where engineers come from. There are far more than meets the eye with this movie. Some may say, nuts like us are making mountains of a mole hill, but i assure you, Prometheus IS everything that has been hyped about. I dont know if this will spark debates close to nolan's concept of level of dreams (inception the movie), though i find this far, far more appealing in many levels. this is what david's dialogue in the viral movie QUOTE "- David, what do you think about? I think about anything. Children playing. Angels. The universe. Robots. - David, what makes you sad? War. Poverty. Cruelty. Unnecessary violence." sidenote: *Thomas Edward Lawrence is not a fictional character but the movie Lawrence Of Arabia is of OF him. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another observation, i don't know if someone notice or brought it up before this. The ship in the beginning of the movie where we see an Engineer is sacrificed drinking the black goo IS different from the crescent shaped engineer ship that was tasked to travel to (destroy) earth as was told by david & the info relayed to shaw. This post has been edited by koolspyda: Jun 16 2012, 03:26 AM |
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Jun 16 2012, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(r2t2 @ Jun 16 2012, 11:51 AM) Copy pasta from an imdb post again ... me lazy, they articulate better ... thank you, thank you.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/board/nest/200474498?p=1 (with att. to koolspyda who like the character David the most ... Maybe the director/writers developed their own God complex, until they ignored the minute details i.e. see the bigger picture, not just day-to-day mundane life ... (blasphemy!) did i not share that i equate david to Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer), blade runner? that another bloody movie tht will bore the hell out of those who find holes in Prometheus movie the size of moon's craters. i know i dont always agree, i for one found james cameron's Avatar unimaginative, in fact i think he should stick to titanic i hope to catch this again in imax This post has been edited by koolspyda: Jun 16 2012, 07:44 PM |
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