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 Great News Guys! Welcome to COD:CS!, Yay... pardon my sarcasm

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slainemcroth
post Dec 5 2008, 03:52 PM

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what about sabotage?

i havent heard a thing about sabotage mode.

one thing that i really loved about malaysian rule set

multiple game modes. it feel like ur in CGS. but u playing all the games.

and i see in COD4 the ambiance changed drastically when you go to the 2nd round.

t3quila
post Dec 5 2008, 04:16 PM

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Sabotage you still need to play symmetrical maps to work out the balance issues. But it gets so pointless and boring when both teams are on par with each other. And the game doesn't let you stop to strategically plan your next play/attack/formation.

In a competition noone wants to end up playing an already prepared stalemate mode. Heck noone likes it even on public servers. It gets very repetitive and then boring. Plus, we don't want to keep the organizers and players waiting an eternity for a bracket to finish playing because the two best teams got stuck playing Sabotage. blink.gif

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post Dec 5 2008, 04:31 PM

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Freeze time 15. Buy time 20. Starting money 800. First round eco round. Go Go Go! Storm the front! Affirmative! Roger That! Press 3 can hold knife? Press 5 can hold the briefcase, press G (or F) can drop briefcase or guns. Crouch walk? No more jump snipe? Prone disallowed. Bunny hop. WAIT. THIS IS A CALL OF DUTY 4 FORUM!
t3quila
post Dec 5 2008, 04:37 PM

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The mod is up on our server please help test it.
Strayfah
post Dec 5 2008, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Dec 5 2008, 12:47 PM)
And that is the stuffs that makes CoD4 unique? When you can accept life has so many unpredictable stuff, why not in game? hmm.gif
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He was asking me to list out the random things in COD4. I was doing as per request. It's the randomness that stops COD4 from being a good game in competitive e-Sports.
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post Dec 5 2008, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Strayfah @ Dec 5 2008, 04:45 PM)
He was asking me to list out the random things in COD4. I was doing as per request. It's the randomness that stops COD4 from being a good game in competitive e-Sports.
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Errr.... mind to elaborate on "random things"? blink.gif
Strayfah
post Dec 5 2008, 05:40 PM

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..Jesus..Just read my previous posts.
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post Dec 5 2008, 06:53 PM

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Tried the DAMN, OMG it's owh hot damn!
Luftwacko
post Dec 5 2008, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Strayfah @ Dec 5 2008, 05:40 PM)
..Jesus..Just read my previous posts.
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Heh? Don't mind if you can repeat it for confirmation?

QUOTE(syNc @ Dec 5 2008, 06:53 PM)
Tried the DAMN, OMG it's owh hot damn!
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Owh yeah baby, lets party! I'm feeling horny, coz da mod is so sexy. brows.gif

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Strayfah
post Dec 5 2008, 08:16 PM

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Lol confirmation of what? Random things happen randomly. There's no confirmation to it.
kenixkenix
post Dec 5 2008, 08:25 PM

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so we will start off wif pistol oni?
XD XD
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post Dec 5 2008, 08:40 PM

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USP's and Glocks biggrin.gif
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post Dec 5 2008, 08:49 PM

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call of duty 4 become cs again .......... i need a break .....
t3quila
post Dec 5 2008, 09:38 PM

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No it does not have pistol rounds and money system.. It is still never going to be like cs.. Stop speculating and just test.
kenixkenix
post Dec 5 2008, 10:05 PM

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no ori cdkey =x
Luftwacko
post Dec 6 2008, 12:10 AM

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If you guys are referring to perks, I don't see how "unpredictable" they're.... most perks are pretty well balanced against each other.
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post Dec 6 2008, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(t3quila @ Dec 5 2008, 12:11 PM)
Crashtec If you have the time yeah? Please do listen to that shoutcast. It is very important that you do. After hearing it I want to push competitive faster here. We have to do it or else we'll be always 1 year short. You are the man for the job because you can inspire people.

Try not to throw too much commercial attention into the community yet. We need it for ourselves. Like before there was CEVO there was CAL. It did not have any monetary funding but it made many competitive games popular. Players did join in for the fun but they were turned competitive as the games it supported had a learning curb to follow consistently and not randomly.

From CoD1 came CoD2. Everyone said CoD2 was better. Both competitive and public players. When it came out CoD1 died. That is the trend and the problem now everyone is facing here. We don't want to see more splits in splits. Lets try to keep it down to one gamemode at least. SnD.

CoD4 was not meant for Domination and CTF play. The spawn system is rubbish. There is just too much random. "Cap all 3 points and players spawn everywhere." Doesn't make any sense.. TDM is a waste of time. We want to see team tactics and clutchplay. I wouldn't say CoD4 was meant to be played SnD. But it has the best support for it. Almost all of the maps are good SnD maps.

We play what everyone else is playing we'll be ready for anything international when it hits us. Lets get this show on the road people. We play promod not because the other competitive scenes are but because we want to be on par with them. We can show that us Malaysians can be highly competitive players too.

Brian if you have the time I'd really like to speak to you privately. Either that or we could have a real discussion with clan leaders and a panel to keep the noise down alittle.
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Haha, now we're getting somewhere.

You're not alone in this factor. Fact is, there was already talk between josh and i about separating snd from dom and tdm.
But in order to keep it interesting, we needed other game modes to draw people in. This is highly because there are very little random SnD games out there being started by players. New players just join TDM straight.

This is changing however, more and more people are finding time to play SnD, you wont see them touch Dom or Tdm unless they are training.
DAMN may be interesting as it puts other guns back into play, not just the 2 russian made weapons. but why call it Damn zzz, if im going to ask big guys to put it into their events.. the name is going to need a profanity filter or something.

Yes things will change, but not in the current league. Hopefully by Jan you'll see things picking up.
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post Dec 6 2008, 01:19 AM

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Yeap I'm not asking for a sudden change. Just want to let everyone know that we have to drop DOM and TDM for serious competitive play if the rest of the world ain't playing it at the highest competitive level since there isn't a future in the those two modes for this game. It is however important to make it little/beginner league.

I'm not pressuring you Brian. I just want the people who are already committed to competitive clans to start taking real action and stop letting you do every little decision for them. For that they must dive deeper into the competitive scene and learn everything they can about it.

How can we, as a competitive gamer community advance to middle stage from here? It is up to you guys to find out what is REALLY happening overseas and come up with ideas as to what we should really be playing/doing. We have to keep up because we ain't leading that's for sure.

So get your original copy of CoD4 people and stop giving an excuse. If you truly support the game buy the original. Even if you don't have a computer you can use your key to play on original servers online from a CC computer and make sure u bring the 1.7 update as well as punkbuster with you on your removable storage device.

In the meantime Fusion server will be the testbed server for DAMNmod. Only original copies. We do NOT support piracy.
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post Dec 6 2008, 01:33 AM

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I'm still trying to figure something out which no one has by far answered.

How is having different perks unskilled =.=" several times it has been mentioned in several threads that having perks is not supportive of competitive gameplay.

I read through the promod ruleset and just had a go at the DAMN mod. I've also listened to the shoutcast from the other thread.

Concerning ProMod, they say things like nosway fix. A fix means there was something wrong with the orginal issue. Were these guys unable to handle "gunsway"? Did they not like jumping at particles onscreen? Could their fingers not handle pressing an EXTRA key on the board to hold their breath? I seriously don't understand why competitive gaming seems to be made easier and easier.

I never had any issues with using any of the MODs, but seriously TEQ, your attitude sucks. You merely scream the words competitive over and over again while spouting that others are screwing up. You have not seemed to be able to actually say something useful from the last collection of posts you have made. For one second stop being the damned prophet of doom. The best part I realise is, you behave like a whiner. Face to face you never really have anything to say, but then you run home, hide behind your screen and then scream out that other ideas suck and that you're the jesus christ of gaming, "Follow me if you want to get to heaven." In the first place, most of your "points" are SUBJECTIVE and based on your own opinion. I listened to some of the things that those guys said and read a couple of debates on the matter and seriously, PAM4 is OLD and dying, promod was developed to counter some of the discrepancies that PAM4 did not have. Great. But DID they have to take EVERYTHING away from the game? I saw your list of fundamentals to have in a game.

That is NOT an attitude that a respectable and reliable person should have. Correct me if i'm wrong seriously.

I've spoken to brian and yes we're probably going to go for Damn: MW because "it's the future." God's I've just read the changelog for DAMN. It actually looks a lot better than i hoped.

Bah.

I've got no issues playing only SND. That's what we play most of the time anyways and the rest of the maps are just meatgrinder fests. And I have something for people to think about. If someone can't use a particular mod and win; does it mean he's not good enough, or too good for the game? Just something to think about.

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Luftwacko
post Dec 6 2008, 01:43 AM

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Okay, my sarcasm talk ends here for today.

If you guys seriously want to adopt this mod for the next tourney, I strongly implore you to modify the z_weapons.iwd file. The weapons are pretty screwed up.

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