thanks, was aiming at 16:9 1080p resolution, thanks, but 4670 DDR3 is expensive, I see 4650 1GB is RM265 only, a RM15 more than the 512MB, thanks

1gb frame buffer on mainstream gpu is pretty much useless. They don't have enough raw power to feed the buffer. I see only marketing strategy.

asus DK is rm1250
huhuhu
waaaaaa
i want matrix now
hahaha

Eeeh.....Do you know Palit own gainward?Gainward did R&D for Palit for ATI card as well
So both is exactly the same,with different cooler.
What about this,you send gainward HD4850 GS for me to test and compare head to head with HD4850 Toxic(Maybe palit sonnic as well) Or you do the comparison and share the result.Also,dismantle the gc and tell us the difference you can spot between palit and gainward
Think of adding you into my ignore list,gosh traditional sales man technique.

unignored now
one of the best thing uve said...

Sum it up:
HD4870 1GB Single=Single card performance
HD4870 X2=On gc level cf,performance is same as HD4870 CF in every game,depend on game engine.If game engine is not dual gpu optimize then your performance is like HD4870 1GB.Single gc solution.
HD4870 1GB CF=2cards solution.CF bridge is on outside instead of inside PCB.Performance is same as HD4870X2 so depend on game engine.

i thought palit and gainward have their own r&d department

eh..
must be twins working in both department

palit came out with their hd4000 series overclock first
then gainward same design

palit came out with hd4870x2 tri slot edition first
and gainward same design...

its a miracle i tell u..

gainward ati r&d... chopping gainward logo .
weve made a new product.!!!!

man, my ati sapphire 4850 has heat problems. At idle its around 75 degrees with the fan running at 55 %. I know its not an internal case problem because my CPU runs extremely cool. I have like 4 fans in that Lien Li case.

Does anyone know an add-on fan that can cool my system? I bought one of those fans that eject the air out the back out of the case but it did not fit exactly over the video card when I slotted it in -- still it managed to bring down the temperature about 5 degrees, so I was idling around 68-69 degrees c. It started to make noise, so I took it out.

How about if I just buy a fan, and attach it to the sapphire fan itself?

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Added on December 1, 2008, 12:45 ambtw, I'm running Vista, and if my card gets too hot, the driver crashes, and vista tries to restart it again. Screen blacks out for a moment then I can resume. Not a lot of fun.




This post has been edited by OmniAtlas: Dec 1 2008, 12:45 AM

hmm, ur 4850 is it the single slot 1? thats a known issue for the card. but then idle temp should not be 75c o_O..u sure bout that?

Yes, I think it is a thermal issue. Or perhaps there is something wrong with my heat sensor. I don't want to go the accelero route, I heard someone attached an external fan and the temperature dropped drastically.

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Added on December 1, 2008, 12:48 ambtw, it wasn't idling at 75 before. When I bought the card it must have been in the 60s...when I ran the fan at 55 %, I was idling at around 45 degrees. Something happened...don't know what!

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Added on December 1, 2008, 12:56 amFound this in a forum -- does this work???

Re: HD 4850 stability problems - overheating?
shaurz,

I've had a lot of problem previously with my 3850 and Vista 64 (4Gb RAM), I was getting random screen crashes, especially when graphic/videos were involved. It took me ages to find out the solution to the problem. You may want to try out the following solution and see if it fixes your problem.

i. Click on the Start (or whatever) button in Vista at bottom left.
ii. In the Search textbox, type in System Configuration.
iii. A configuration screen should pop up, select the 2nd tab (Boot).
iv. Tick both boxes for No. of processors and Memory, select 4 in the processors dropdown box and leave 0 in the memory.

Click OK, this should ask you to reboot. Reboot and see if it makes any difference. You can always untick these settings if it makes no difference to you.

Hope this helps.

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Added on December 1, 2008, 1:01 amI'm looking for something like this, but which only takes one slot.





This post has been edited by OmniAtlas: Dec 1 2008, 01:01 AM

My goodness, aside from you & cstk1 pompous and egoistic attitude, don't shoot yourself in the foot lar.

1. If you said you are going to ignore me, then do it. Don't say it but don't do it.

2. Don't assume you know this and that compare to a distro. Are you in the loop for Palit Group internal operation, manufacturing and distribution business? And don't ask silly question like if we know Palit owns Gainward?

3. Don't say "exactly the same", then say "with different cooler". Do you know the meaning of "exactly"?

4. Unless you live in a cave, there are tons of Gainward 4850 GS reviews out there, and comparisons too. Here is one of them: http://www.geeks3d.com/?p=1480
Please use the Internet. We have no time to engage in fruitless banters with you and cstk1 except when we feel you both are misleading users re Gainward like in the case here.

I almost bought the Sapphire 4850 but read reviews abt the high temp.

U can get a after market GC cooler like HR03. But it'll take an extra slot i think

try do this...
take 120mm fan(any brand), and then attach(use tape) it at where the fan is. inhale or exhaust depends on you.

YES, you are right. But same manufacturing base for economy of scale. That's why Gainward can produce cards like 4870X2 Golden Sample Goes Like Hell which Palit doesn't have. Of course there are other differences and similarity which we are not at liberty to share here.



For more info, check out the awesome presentations below (click on the links):

Gainward Rampage 700 GS Goes Like Hell details

Gainward Rampage 700 GS Goes Like Hell - Fastest VGA in the world!

Proud to announce:Officially in my ignore list
2.)Nope....It is a fact that Gainward bought by Palit.http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=7665
3.)It is same with the only difference being the sticker
4.)I know there are plenty of review out there so??We are not misleading,just pointing out the fact that palit is excalty the same as gainward with the only difference being the sticker.Don't tell me you as a gainward distro,don't know about this fact.
Gosh,traditional sales man.
Off you go,to hell aka ignore list

Errrrr, sorry to crash the party here but, Gainward announce HD4870x2 golden sample right after Palit announce HD4870x2 R700 Revolution.

they shares really the same design, just a different sticker...

btw, u nv mention single slot or dual slot wor..maybe something stuck in it?

I guess I will try that..lol. The cheap way out

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Added on December 1, 2008, 1:18 amsingle slot...hm..i don't think theres anything stuck in there..but I'll have to check. Just too lazy to take out the card, but everything from the outside looks clean.

This post has been edited by OmniAtlas: Dec 1 2008, 01:18 AM

That is because they are the same thing, a simple hex comparison between both bios will explain it all. And like junkie_rubbish mentioned, Palit 4850 Sonic and Gainward 4850 Golden sample is the same thing down to the same PCB and component layout.

Doubt it? Take a hex comparison between both cards bios's , that would explain it all.