Wow, till today, after over 4000 posts and 85000 views in the Gainward thread, people still asking this question.

Ok guys, once again, Gainward 4850 GS is NOT the same as Palit 4850 Sonic. Gainward 4850 GS use a different cooler and has faster factory-overclocked core and mem speed.

For more details, click the links below.

http://www.netraid.com.my/Custom-HD4850-comparison.pdf

http://www.netraid.com.my/Gainward-4850-Go...-4850-Toxic.pdf

http://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/...ic-card-review/

If you need more info, please visit our Gainward Club thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/837220

Hope this make things clearer. Thanks.

Hi junkie_rubbish, Hi Lacus,

Gainward 4850 Golden Sample might look similar to Palit 4850 Sonic, but it's not the same. Aside from the obvious difference that Gainward 4850 GS has faster core and mem speed, I was told that Gainward use different PCB, ICs and heatpipes (nickel plated). Therefore, the overall overclockability & temp of Gainward 4850 GS should be better. Many have posted their Gainward temps and OC scores before, so just search around our Gainward threads or V3, V4 of this thread.

As for comparison, there are too many on the web. Just Google it. Here are 2 reviews done by Tweaktown:

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1569/1/pa...card/index.html

vs

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1607/1/ga...card/index.html (won the Tweaktown Best Performance Must Have award)

My goodness, aside from you & cstk1 pompous and egoistic attitude, don't shoot yourself in the foot lar.

1. If you said you are going to ignore me, then do it. Don't say it but don't do it.

2. Don't assume you know this and that compare to a distro. Are you in the loop for Palit Group internal operation, manufacturing and distribution business? And don't ask silly question like if we know Palit owns Gainward?

3. Don't say "exactly the same", then say "with different cooler". Do you know the meaning of "exactly"?

4. Unless you live in a cave, there are tons of Gainward 4850 GS reviews out there, and comparisons too. Here is one of them: http://www.geeks3d.com/?p=1480
Please use the Internet. We have no time to engage in fruitless banters with you and cstk1 except when we feel you both are misleading users re Gainward like in the case here.

YES, you are right. But same manufacturing base for economy of scale. That's why Gainward can produce cards like 4870X2 Golden Sample Goes Like Hell which Palit doesn't have. Of course there are other differences and similarity which we are not at liberty to share here.



For more info, check out the awesome presentations below (click on the links):

Gainward Rampage 700 GS Goes Like Hell details

Gainward Rampage 700 GS Goes Like Hell - Fastest VGA in the world!

Ok, I stand corrected. Sorry. I was just explaining what was briefed by Gainward to me from their slides. I was told it was different PCB but guess I have to cross-check with Gainward on it. So the only difference is the core and mem speed then?

Thanks for pointing this out.


Yes true, but Gainward 4870X2 Golden Sample Goes Like Hell is faster than Palit HD4870x2 R700 Revolution because it's core speed is 790+ Mhz. I was just trying to point out this difference here. Btw, does Palit 4870X2 R700 Revolution have DVI-I+DisplayPort+HDMI+VGA ports as well? What I normally received are Gainward slides and updates, not Palit ones.

Yes you are right on that, I will have to admit and agree. Sales "stuffs" is one of my job function. I do tried my best to keep it to news, updates on new models and reviews.

And I apologised for calling you and OC3/4 names. It was uncalled for.

When I post, I wasn't "arguing", it's more like explaining from the slides Gainward sent to me often, esp the differences. But sometimes I got carried away because Gainward marketing slides can be "brainwashing". And I never doubted on your technical know-how, I learned a lot from it.

We are learning from Netraid past good support. Please give us time.

Anyway, thanks for the input on the market.

This post has been edited by Scanart: Dec 1 2008, 02:44 AM