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 AMD/ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series Discussion V5, The Journey Countinues..

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post Nov 28 2008, 07:51 PM, updated 17y ago

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AMD/ATi HD 4000 Series Discussion V5 Thread
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ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4000 System Requirement

ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD4800 Series System Requirement

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ATI Radeonâ„¢ Mainstream(HD4600,HD4550,HD4350) System Requirements

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News

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Software,Overclocking Tools & Benchmark

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Review

ATI Radeonâ„¢ 4800 Series Review
ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4850 Review
ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4870&4850 Review
ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4850&4870 "Special" AA
ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4870 1GB Review
ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4870 X2 and Crossfired HD4870 X2 Review
ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4830 Review
ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4830 Review

ATI Radeonâ„¢ Mainstream Review

ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4670 Review
ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4350&4550 Review


History,Overclocking Thread & Club Thread

AMD/ATi Radeon HD 4000 Series Discussion V2 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/728477
AMD/ATi Radeon HD 4000 Series Discussion V3 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/746229
AMD/ATi Radeon HD 4000 Series Discussion V4 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/788313
AMD/ATi Radeon HD 4850 Overclocking Thread : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/734055
AMD/ATi Radeon HD 4870 X2/R700 Discussion : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/723229
AMD/ATi Radeon HD 4850 X2 Discussion : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/829497
Gainward AMD/ATi V2 Club Thread : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/837220
HIS AMD/ATi Club Thread : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=785240&hl=


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irienaoki
post Nov 28 2008, 08:05 PM

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me 1st
in b4 other

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Help me win a 4850! laugh.gif Only require a little of your time.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/856018

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Added ! smile.gif
Good luck!..Will vote it for you when i have free time.. whistling.gif
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post Nov 28 2008, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Nov 28 2008, 08:13 PM)
[SHAMELESSPLUG]

Help me win a 4850! laugh.gif Only require a little of your time.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/856018

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Shameless indeed lol. I might help.... though seriously, winning a name for Malaysia isn't going to help/fix the government.

How high can 4850 core overclock compared to 4870 cores? If 4870 can reach 800mhz+, can't 4850 do that also?
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post Nov 28 2008, 08:22 PM

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if i remember well you need to flash the bios to unlock something inside...haha

i dont know all too well...but both are of the same core...shud be able to do so..
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post Nov 28 2008, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Nov 28 2008, 08:13 PM)
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go go malaysia
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QUOTE(blindbox @ Nov 28 2008, 08:19 PM)
Shameless indeed lol. I might help.... though seriously, winning a name for Malaysia isn't going to help/fix the government.

How high can 4850 core overclock compared to 4870 cores? If 4870 can reach 800mhz+, can't 4850 do that also?
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4850 can go 900+ wit volt mod. dunno how high it can go wit volt mod + liquid nitrogen.............. tongue.gif

too bad, 4870 cannot apply the simple pencil volt mod..............

btw, @AMDAthlon,
4830 price fall drastically. u might wanna put dat on news......................... biggrin.gif
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post Nov 28 2008, 08:36 PM

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congrats on new V5 ! smile.gif

i reposta the news : http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...10675&Itemid=34

Radeon 4870 price to sink $20
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First adjustment since launch

Since Nvidia has the 180 series driver and is actually winning with Geforce GTX 260 with 216 Shaders in many popular games, ATI is readying to slightly adjust its price in order to put more pressure before the final Xmas shopping spree.

We’ve learned that ATI will drop its price by about $20 to channel which should result that these cards will get around $20 cheaper for customers around the world. European customers should see prices down by about 15 euro, which will give ATI a better fighting chance.

At the same time, ATI knows that they don’t have PhysX and there is a big rumour that the upcoming game called Mirror’s Edge might really push PhysX like never before. This is the first price reduction of RV770 based cards since launch which definitely proves that ATI did a good job and managed to sustain its launch price since it launched the card months ago.

As of this morning the European prices have started to drop from €200+ to €180+, and you can get Sapphire's HD4870 for €184 here.
Radeon HD4830 drops under €100 : http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...10686&Itemid=34

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Finally starts making sense

The lovechild of ATI engineers and AMD accountants, dubbed Radeon HD4830, has finally dropped under the €100 mark and started to make sense.

We tested it a month ago here. Sanjin was impressed by its performance, but not thrilled about the ridiculous pricing. Back then it was priced at €125, on par with HD4850 cards and obviously it didn't make any sense. We kept our eyes open for the price drop and told you to wait a bit in case you wanted one and this morning the new price started popping up on price search engines.

So there you have it, if you're in the market for sub-€100 graphics, the HD4830 is the way to go. You can a HIS HD4830 with non-reference cooling for €99, here.

For comparison, the cheapest HD4850 retails at €124, while the HD4870, following the price drop we talked about here, now costs €184.

the price similar to 9800GT price

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post Nov 28 2008, 08:39 PM

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gecube 4870 is selling for RM820. price is going down for real?
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post Nov 28 2008, 08:41 PM

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seems to be true, and 4830 should drop price anytime soon..
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QUOTE(wanka91 @ Nov 28 2008, 03:55 PM[SPOILER)
]I rest my case cstkl.... it was just an advice and you acted like some kind of spoiled brat who doesnt like what your hearing.

You did post in the wrong thread, no matter how good that info was

and yeah i just finished spm :/
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had a feeling this was about me and took a peek.
trying to retort.. its only a ignore list but i guess his ba never told him stop being emo.
and the reason ure ignored is cause u never read what was being talked about in the last few pages...
it wasnt even a war about ati vs nvidia.. it was between two cards only.. real fanboy arent ya
kids nowadays..
also taking advice from u is like asking my maid to advice me/partners on how to manage our companies finances.

begone to the ignore list once again.



QUOTE(tech_frix[SPOILER)
,Nov 28 2008, 04:24 PM]as cstkl1 said, we need to compare it on the same level...
then we can make d conclusion...
now i'm still waiting for cstkl1 ss...erm...kekeke
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tech i am trying to find ati gc since sold already ...

been asking asus taiwan to bring in the matrix..

if u want i can post the gtx260 anytime but nothing to compare with except a x1050 keke..[/SPOILER]

QUOTE(ruffstuff @ [SPOILER)
Nov 28 2008, 08:39 PM]gecube 4870 is selling for RM820.  price is going down for real?
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christmas and year end rush dude

so the price is mainly down because of more volume in anticipation

remember malaysia we give our kids usually money for shirt etc 17 year old needing permission from the "ba" to buy a gc

2006/7.. parents in the US and even gfs were giving their kids/bf a 8800 GTX/Ultra
purchasing power of the USD.

that time it took a average graduate to use his one month / one and a half for ultra income to pay
in the US.. a 16 yeard old summer part time worker in mcd can buy it after a month...

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PS how ppl here would actually be interested in buying the matrix hd4870 if the price was around 1-1.1k

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back to my question , i have bought power color ati radeon HD 4670 few weeks back and im not very happy with it cos i have been unable to play old games such as cs 1.6 and knight online ( if anyone know it ....) the fps just not stable ,

whenever i play cs 1.6 zombie mod the fps can be as high as 100 and drop till 10 or so when players around my screen , and same goes to knight online when the fps im getting is around 40 or so when no players is around and when the map is packed with other players my fps goes down till less than 10 .... hmm what could be the problem ?

both these 2 games areat least 4- 5 years old ++ my laptop with nvidia 8600 gt can have around 80 fps when playing knight online undersame condition .


i hope if any1 faced this problem before can help me out .... i have actually post my question before back in V4 buy reader seems to ignore or missed my question... hope this time will get u guys attention smile.gif

pc specification :

pentium D930
3.44 GB( 4GB) ddr2 667 SD RAM
p4ld2-se asus mobo
ati radeon HD 4670 (CCC version 8.11)



oh one more thing ... i heard ati dosnt work well with opengl is that true? if is that so , how to solve it ? i dont suppose ati raeon user dont play opengl game ? whistling.gif whistling.gif

thanks for helping in advance smile.gif
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most pc hardwares price drop lately
just a month edi drop about rm50
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@ to some people , no matter how you fight him , u never win , his experience is far greater powerful bla bla then u tongue.gif , so u just 4get it to win him brows.gif
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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Nov 28 2008, 10:37 PM)
@ to some people , no matter how you fight him , u never win , his experience is far greater powerful bla bla then u tongue.gif , so u just 4get it to win him brows.gif
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new thread............already start flaming............ sweat.gif

c'mon man, giv dem som breathing space.........
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QUOTE(irienaoki @ Nov 28 2008, 10:27 PM)
most pc hardwares price drop lately
just a month edi drop about rm50
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from what i saw is keep raising for the computer hardware. the gc price (those hot high end one) changing every week.
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post Nov 28 2008, 10:59 PM

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hmmphh..undercover graphics aint look so nice on 4850...set all to max...seems laggy and not really nice graphic compared to pro street or grid...
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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Nov 28 2008, 10:49 PM)
from what i saw is keep raising for the computer hardware. the gc price (those hot high end one) changing every week.
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gc?
hohoho
even old model?

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post Nov 28 2008, 11:22 PM

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Yeah Undercover is sort of killing 4850 alittle.

At certain frames, i'll lagg. So far, i set all high settings with 2XAA, i get about 60 for maximum and 28 for minimum. I wonder how much fps do you guys get with 4850 on Undercover.

I'm using Asus 4850 with Glaciator fan, it doesnt run as cool as i expected, lol. Approximately 50 for idle and 72 for load. Is this just normal?

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