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Buying Advice Wanna buy New Camera? Undecided which to choose?V2, ASK HERE! Dont create a thread elsewhere

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joyyy
post Jan 5 2009, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(frankzen @ Jan 5 2009, 08:59 PM)
not ready?? =( i thought i can ask anything im unsure of in this thread.. but looks like being turned down this way.
oh yeah which its quite straight forward but is it worth it?
anyway its okla..
il go search about it myself. better not ask here. later kena again.
thanks for the answer. sad.gif
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Of course you can ask anything if you're unsure.
But "silly" questions are quite irritating. I'll tell you why it's irritating.
DSLR itself stands for Digital Single-Lens Reflex, and as the name states, it can only be attached to one lens at a single time. shakehead.gif So dont come up with the there-are-cameras-that-can-be-attached-to-two-lenses-at-a-time excuse.
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I'm confused between 2 cameras, canon 1000d and nikon d60. Is live view a necessary thing? In what situation will I need it? I'm not too sure on which one to choose. Which one is better in the long run? Thanks!

-FaR
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post Jan 5 2009, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(x_far_x @ Jan 5 2009, 09:45 PM)
I'm confused between 2 cameras, canon 1000d and nikon d60.  Is live view a necessary thing?  In what situation will I need it?  I'm not too sure on which one to choose.  Which one is better in the long run?  Thanks!

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Okay let's see. My personal opinion, the Live View on the 1000d is a mere gimmick. Yeah, I also admit I fell for it sad.gif
Most Canon die-hards will claim that the Live View will be useful when shooting at "akward" angles. Sure, if you're shooting a little bit above your head level, you can still see the LCD screen. Even then you'd find it a hard time focusing. blink.gif
But most of the time, in my case, I'll be holding the camera high above my head at the highest point possible, with the camera pointing in a downwards angle. There's no way I can see the LCD as it is tilted away from me. sad.gif
At the end of it, it's still up to you to decide whether you need the Live View or not. smile.gif Good luck man
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QUOTE(barca @ Jan 4 2009, 10:30 PM)

Then i survey around again all about the same price,including Sungai Wang Plaza.....then i purchase the 450D for rm 2600 with Nikon 4gb high speed memory card,tripod,canon case and a screen protector(extra - Calendar and String)hehehe.Warranty was given for lens and body for 3 years.But i didnt pay installment,but full payment using Credit Card
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u mean thre sell the same price as in 2399 or something like 2600??and..from the kiosk tat sell 2399 got include what package??
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post Jan 5 2009, 11:40 PM

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what's the cheapest auto-focus digital camera? even 5MP is ok with me, are there any that's like RM299 or less?
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post Jan 6 2009, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(ikttan @ Jan 5 2009, 11:40 PM)
what's the cheapest auto-focus digital camera?  even 5MP is ok with me, are there any that's like RM299 or less?
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But why? blink.gif
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QUOTE(iz1011 @ Jan 5 2009, 10:24 PM)
u mean thre sell the same price as in 2399 or something like 2600??and..from the kiosk tat sell 2399 got include what package??
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They sell for RM2399 included tripod,bag and 4gb memory card.But if u wanna purchase with Credit Card charge extra 4% and extend another 2 years warranty were charge another 8%.U calculate back,total will be RM2694....lol...

But i as spoke to my fren there is 2 type of Canon....1 is make in China and another is from Japan....something like Nokia phone.....between Citron and AP.....
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QUOTE(barca @ Jan 4 2009, 10:30 PM)
Then i survey around again all about the same price,including Sungai Wang Plaza.....then i purchase the 450D for rm 2600 with Nikon 4gb high speed memory card,tripod,canon case and a screen protector(extra - Calendar and String)hehehe.Warranty was given for lens and body for 3 years.But i didnt pay installment,but full payment using Credit Card
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u mean thre sell the same price as in 2399 or something like 2600??and..from the kiosk tat sell 2399 got include what package??


Added on January 6, 2009, 9:36 am
QUOTE(barca @ Jan 4 2009, 10:30 PM)

Then i survey around again all about the same price,including Sungai Wang Plaza.....then i purchase the 450D for rm 2600 with Nikon 4gb high speed memory card,tripod,canon case and a screen protector(extra - Calendar and String)hehehe.Warranty was given for lens and body for 3 years.But i didnt pay installment,but full payment using Credit Card
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u mean thre sell the same price as in 2399 or something like 2600??and..from the kiosk tat sell 2399 got include what package??

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joyyy
post Jan 6 2009, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(barca @ Jan 6 2009, 09:19 AM)
They sell for RM2399 included tripod,bag and 4gb memory card.But if u wanna purchase with Credit Card charge extra 4% and extend another 2 years warranty were charge another 8%.U calculate back,total will be RM2694....lol...

But i as spoke to my fren there is 2 type of Canon....1 is make in China and another is from Japan....something like Nokia phone.....between Citron and AP.....
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Zitron sets and AP sets are made at the same factory.
It's only the way they get into our country that's different.
"Original" sets are imported by each brand's licensed distributor into the country, which, in Nokia's case is Zitron.
Zitron has to pay Nokia when they import Nokia phones into our country, making Zitron sets more expensive.
So it doesn't matter where the camera is made from. rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 6 2009, 02:59 PM

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Type of camera/lens/accesories :Digital Camera
Budget : RM1000 -RM1300 (price lower will be better) xD
Your Location: Kuala Lumpur
Preferable brand : Olymplus , Cannon
Type of photography u want to do : Travel, dinner biggrin.gif
Any specific models in mind? :
Any specific features u want? : erhmm..which can use under water to take pic nicely?...clear and fast @.@..planning to buy it bfore to pulau perhentian biggrin.gif

thanks for help !

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post Jan 6 2009, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(khinz @ Jan 6 2009, 02:59 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories :Digital Camera
Budget : RM1000 -RM1300 (price lower will be better) xD
Your Location: Kuala Lumpur
Preferable brand : Olymplus , Cannon
Type of photography u want to do : Travel, dinner  biggrin.gif
Any specific models in mind? :
Any specific features u want? : erhmm..which can use under water to take pic nicely?...clear and fast @.@..planning to buy it bfore to pulau perhentian biggrin.gif

thanks for help !
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If you're seriously looking for an underwater camera, Olympus will be your only choice.
True, you could get underwater casings for other brands, but that'll easily cost half a new camera.
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post Jan 6 2009, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(iz1011 @ Jan 6 2009, 09:36 AM)
u mean thre sell the same price as in 2399 or something like 2600??and..from the kiosk tat sell 2399 got include what package??

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RM2399 included tripod,4gb memory card and a bag.Payment must be CASH
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post Jan 6 2009, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(joyyy @ Jan 6 2009, 03:14 PM)
If you're seriously looking for an underwater camera, Olympus will be your only choice.
True, you could get underwater casings for other brands, but that'll easily cost half a new camera.
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif then i will point to olymplus lo laugh.gif
thanks for help rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 6 2009, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(joyyy @ Jan 6 2009, 12:47 AM)
But why?  blink.gif
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for a trash around camera, basically enough to take pictures by kids and not painful to the heart and pocket if it breaks. like those kodak instant cameras but digital type. blush.gif
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post Jan 6 2009, 10:09 PM

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Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR
Budget: 3000+
Your Location: KL
Preferable brand :NIKON/CANON
Type of photography u want to do :panorama/building/landscape
Any specific models in mind? : D80/D90
Any specific features u want? : dual lens package
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Type of camera/lens/accessories : DSLR
Budget: Anything that's basic
Your Location: KL
Preferable brand :NIKON/CANON
Type of photography u want to do :anything and everything smile.gif
Any specific models in mind? : the basic models. something like the 1000d?
Any specific features u want? : anything for a beginner level (just starting out)
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post Jan 7 2009, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(joyyy @ Jan 5 2009, 10:21 PM)
Okay let's see. My personal opinion, the Live View on the 1000d is a mere gimmick. Yeah, I also admit I fell for it sad.gif
Most Canon die-hards will claim that the Live View will be useful when shooting at "akward" angles. Sure, if you're shooting a little bit above your head level, you can still see the LCD screen. Even then you'd find it a hard time focusing.  blink.gif
But most of the time, in my case, I'll be holding the camera high above my head at the highest point possible, with the camera pointing in a downwards angle. There's no way I can see the LCD as it is tilted away from me. sad.gif
At the end of it, it's still up to you to decide whether you need the Live View or not.  smile.gif Good luck man
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On the 1000d, there's a depth of field button. What is that and how will be used in practice? Also, is it really a big flaw to have 7 point AF rather than 9? I think the D60 has less right? Sorry for the questions...hehe. If it goes well, I'll get my 1st DSLR in March. Thanks!

-FaR

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post Jan 7 2009, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(x_far_x @ Jan 7 2009, 01:22 AM)
On the 1000d, there's a depth of field button.  What is that and how will be used in practice?  Also, is it really a big flaw to have 7 point AF rather than 9?  I think the D60 has less right?  Sorry for the questions...hehe.  If it goes well, I'll get my 1st DSLR in March.  Thanks!

-FaR
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Keep the questions coming dude~ As long as they aren't silly questions like "What is twin lens kit" etc. smile.gif
As the name implies, it gives the photographer a "preview" of the depth of field the photographer chooses. Take for example I'm shooting in Aperture mode at f/20, which is really small and should give a large DOF.

To roughly have a look at the DOF, you can press the DOF-preview button. The camera will immediately change the aperture to f/20, and in the process the viewfinder will become dimmer as less light passes through. Along with this, you will notice that the DOF has increased aka. the background would've become clearer.
Once again, this feature although a nice thing to have, personally I do not play with it often, as I more or less already know how the DOF is affected by the aperture and what aperture usually to use. smile.gif
Or you might want to read this site? http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dof-button.htm smile.gif

About the AF points, I personally think that 7 and 9 are no big difference. Furthermore I only shoot using the center AF point. >__< The D60 only has 3 ;D

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QUOTE(khinz @ Jan 6 2009, 08:46 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif then i will point to olymplus lo  laugh.gif
thanks for help  rclxm9.gif
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for dslr camera i dunno la..total noob for slr but for the u/w camera, i got something to say and ask u..

for which extend u want ur picture to look like?
are u just a snorkeler? or a scuba diver?

if u are a scuba diver, the current olympus is not enough...
the current model of olympus which can withstand shock and water proof, does not have the manual setting and all u wil get from the camera is pictures which is blue and dull cause taking photo underwater is total different experience from the land. U have to take into consideration the water column and the lost of the colour when u reach even one metre of depth.

So, find those camera which have the manual setting which u can play around with the shutter speed and aperture.

i was once u, bought the olympus model which can be brought down to water more than 10metres but regretted it once i got the photos..

now i'm a happy G9 user... for land i still use my mju 770sw, the first olympus camera which can be brought down to the sea. smile.gif

now my problem is...hope someone can help me out...

Type of camera/lens/accesories : DSLR
Budget: 2.5K
Your Location: kl
Preferable brand : -
Type of photography u want to do : scenery,lanscape,ppl and animals..no intention of bringing it underwater ( way too expensive !!)
Any specific models in mind? :
Any specific features u want? : things that c`an make my photo clear and nice

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QUOTE(huhufish @ Jan 7 2009, 02:32 AM)
for dslr camera i dunno la..total noob for slr but for the u/w camera, i got something to say and ask u..

for which extend u want ur picture to look like?
are u just a snorkeler? or a scuba diver?

if u are a scuba diver, the current olympus is not enough...
the current model of olympus which can withstand shock and water proof, does not have the manual setting and all u wil get from the camera is pictures which is blue and dull cause taking photo underwater is total different experience from the land. U have to take into consideration the water column and the lost of the colour when u reach even one metre of depth.

So, find those camera which have the manual setting which u can play around with the shutter speed and aperture.

i was once u, bought the olympus model which can be brought down to water more than 10metres but regretted it once i got the photos..

now i'm a happy G9 user... for land i still use my mju 770sw, the first olympus camera which can be brought down to the sea. smile.gif
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hmm.gif currently just use it for snorkeling la tongue.gif
next year only i point to the diving...hehes....
anyway...thanks for ur comment smile.gif rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by khinz: Jan 7 2009, 09:30 AM

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