Not a problem to me since it is a 'marketing' issue (as in itallic). As long s they produce 'bang for buck' sub (as in bold).

Come to think of it, almost everywhere is the same with one company claiming their products are excellence over competitors

As in a popular UK Mag, it is very bias (as most of us know). So, shall we ban the mags? No, right? Just tk it with a pinch of salt and move on Buy what you believe that gives the most value for your $$$$. I might be wrong or maybe many would disagree with me. That's why we have differences.

Cheers

Thanks HT kaki.
I think you are correct.
Just as UK magazine they are very bias.
So we should not be bother by this as it was stated there best bang in the buck subwoofer.
Thanks.

I think its quite true. When I ask why Axiom can offer such a low shipping, I got reply bad mouthing Axiom products. I didn't quite expect that. But I think their subs are great and wll still get one.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 22 2009, 11:30 PM

I wouldn't have expected that either.

wow... further elaborate?

I don't think I want to quote it right here. Afterall, I'm in the process of getting an SVS sub.

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Added on June 22, 2009, 1:20 amThis post has been edited by lightning69: Jun 22 2009, 01:20 AM

what surprised me most was i saw a forum with Dr.hsu and SVS arguing big time over whose sub design is better... just couldnt find that thread again.. it was very fun to read hehe.. i have seen diff speakers designers talking in the same forum but not arguing there... kind of like it

Everybody tryong to get a piece of the pie in difficult time

As it seems, it is very 'chinaman' style of doing business To me, I couldn;t nother much about this debate or whatever mktg tricks as long as the products are good. After all, I am the one who is going to enjoy

UK and US audio enthusiasts have different tastes .. it all has to do with the size of an average living room i.e. listening room and home design..average uk citizen lives in a link house with relatively small living room....while the opposite in the US.. American like their hi-fi loud whilst the British prefer articulate, detailed and more refined sound...

Malaysian prefer their Hifi to be both articulate, detailed and more refined sound...& LOUD too.

even in a condo

even in a bed/bath room

Especially in condo..otherwise the neighbors wouldnt know we got very expensive hi-fi gears with thumping bass that will test the structural integrity of the building correct?

Then, I guessed I aint Malaysian enough

I watched my movie at moderate volume (Old man trying to preserve his hearing) My Yamaha ref level is at -8dB. I normally watch movies at abt -22dB (20%) to -26dB (80%). On very few occasions, it hit -18dB mark.

right, an alternative way to test the structural integrity of the building for earthquake resistance

My ref is at -6dB, and it's the same model as yours. What could I be missing?
-22dB is very very loud, I normally watch at only -30dB ~ -25dB at most.
Music never went below -33dB usually it's only at -40dB.

Sigh .. tonight need to do summore testing!

htkaki, s6xs9x your ref level is how many dB?

-6dB

Mine at -8dB

Bro, even same avr but different room size, different speakers, and different in-room freq too. So, diff ref level.

Now, hardly crank above -26dB. When you are free, come over and feel the massive difference between PB-10NSD and PC-12Plus

Sorry wanted to clarify some more. The ref level is -6dB (s6xs9x) or -8dB (htkaki) as set in your receiver volume right?

But what is the actual output from the speakers? Is it 100dB?