How long do you think xoticpc will give you a reply? Haha... shipping to malaysia seems like a good idea. But where should i ship it to?
They told me one of the Sager retailers in SE Asia is SGcubehub. But when i customized the same specs on the xoticpc website. it cost roughly $S1k more (includes shipping fee.)

I apologize, I based my info off this thread in hardwarezone

Also emailed Sager Notebooks just to check again , seems like Cube really is a partner now

Still, buy sagers laptop off exoticpc since the price is much cheaper than what sgcubehub is selling after including shipping fees and discounts.

This post has been edited by jasperr: Feb 10 2009, 09:11 AM

Hm... Do Singapore charge taxes for notebook? Try check with your local custom.

@Bankster

Yes... I'm referring to college of course, hard to imagine anything below than that need to carry notebook to school (With all the textbooks... You have to have plenty of muscle to kill lol )

Never own a 17" before and since its not much more heavier; ~0.5kg, might consider it on my next investment. Thanks for the reply.

waa...so fast want upgrade already ?

@Corad; My notebook IS HOT, LOLzzzz

Well in terms of temperature, it doesnt get too hot when gaming for about 1 hours and 25 minute... i always played my games at minimum of 3 hours and max 5 hours lolz... the notebook only feels WARM after 3 hours but since i got a cooler-pad, the zalman nc2000, i dont think under the notebook is hot.

Surfing the net didnt cause the notebook to become hot even after surfing for 3 hours or so... because the fans beneath it really does it job to cool the notebook. In fact i was kinda surprised the fans does the job really well!!!

Some user complaint that the notebook fans are really loud but in my opinion its not really that loud, since im always using my headphones.

So the sound of the fans disappear in the background when all i heard is only the cry of the zombies that i head-shot in Left 4 Dead. huhuhuhu..

i heard that the NP8860 got heat issues from the notebookreview forum, and if im not mistaken its because of the HDD? The owner who just bought the notebook right after it was released suffered the heat problem but the issue was solved maybe. There are even some members of that forum claims that it depends on which reseller you bought from.

Owner of Np8860 that bought from xoticpc didnt have any HDD heat issues! which is a great thing..

@N1-C; i would recommend getting a 17" only if you rarely travel with your notebook since it is quite heavy, and if you wanted a desktop replacement because the 17" is already a great size to be portable and also when you are gaming.

@corad

No... not now of course, I'm planning after i graduate from college and move around less.

@Bankster

9800M GTS destroy 8700M GT SLI, whats more an 9800M GTX? You should fire up some games and show him who's the boss lol.

Raw performance > LEDs.

Saving money and going to slap a Intel SSD into the beast... Hopefully the price drop will quicken my time of getting it lol.

[EDIT]

What college are you in? I would happily transfer to college that with notebook (Not the cost ) will be able to attract girls LOL.

This post has been edited by N1-C: Feb 10 2009, 08:46 PM

Yeah lo, thought your lappie's still 'fresh'?, addicted to the technology 'poison' ? But for college life u can always get a backpack which will definitely ease off loads from your arm instead. During my days in uni life, i rarely carry any text books around as there are libraries and in most cases file case will be more than sufficient so bringing a lappie around in a backpack not a hassle lo.

This post has been edited by kirakun: Feb 10 2009, 08:58 PM

Don't really get you, while I'm always... "addicted" to tech, I'll always look into my wallet first, or my parent's LOL.

Like I said, last semester I've only one textbook with me that need to carry to class twice a week (Not necessary... but meh I'm a good student LOL). I'm a programming/ networking student so most of my... "textbook" are in digital form, PDF files mostly.

Less then a month before my college re-open... So I'll try to enjoy it as much as I could. Might do benchmark of F.E.A.R 2 when its released on Steam for my GTS! While it will be not anything in depth... stay tune, hopefully will give people a better idea of what 9800M GTS is capable of .

And you kirakun! I'm waiting for your NP9262 review lol.

yeap, seems like xotipc are good in what they do no complaints as long as my laptop dosent break down ..haha

so what is everyone playing now ? forgot i had crysis on my HDD , so might start that again tonight

corad, I think you should compile a list of Sager notebook user.

Not bad I must say for you to promote the laptop for the Malaysian market.

it's all in the 2nd post

haha .. have to scroll all the way to the end tho. not much promoting on my part , i'm sure most of the members here would have bought the same lappie with or without this thread

Well that's not entirely true . At the start, i had no idea that it is actually 'practically and safe' to directly 'import' or buy electronic items outside of our country. Therefore my mind was still binded to those laptop brands available only in malaysia. But out of all, none met my expected specs except for dell xps 1730. I put the purchase on hold as i have yet to make up my mind until i bumped into this thread . The rest of the story u know, the performance vs price wise suit to my expectation in fact exceeded my expectation so i bought it straight away lo.

Conclusion to it, without your thread corad, i might end up with a dell xps 1730 with me instead and probably even regreted my buying . therefore the credits do go to u for introducing a good and reliable laptop brand and supplier. Kudos i must say.

Well, I for one never knew about this brand before until this thread was created. This thread came out only after I bought my Toshiba laptop. Regret a bit but on the plus side, warranty support is available locally (UK) and international. Unlike Sager, as mentioned by corad, if anything went wrong, you have to send it back to the US.

Then I guess I'll not mention Eurocom to upset you... You have the advantage of taking it to retail store though.

are there any sager desktops?

This post has been edited by wilsonjay: Feb 12 2009, 12:15 AM

Damn it N1-C. You already mentioned Eurocom and I Google it up. Wide selection of individual components for customisation. It may have a more powerful configuration at a lower price than my current laptop.

Anyway I decided to configure one of them to match almost of my laptop specification but the price was higher than the same specification of mine.

Therefore, I present to you:

Toshiba Qosmio X300-11S vs. Eurocom M570TU Montebello showdown
(both of them are 17" laptops for a fair comparison in terms of screen size)

Here is the specification break down.

Toshiba Qosmio X300-11S
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo P8600
Graphic card: NVIDIA GeForce 9700M GTS, 512 MB, GDDR3
Memory: 4 GB (2 x 2GB), DDR3-1066 CL7 memory
Harddisk drive: 320GB, 5400 rpm SATA
Display: Toshiba TruBrite® WXGA+ TFT High Brightness display (1440 x 900)
Keyboard: English UK keyboard
Operating System: Pre-installed with Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit
Wireless module: Intel WiFi Link 5100
Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth + EDR module
Speaker: built-in Harman Kardon® stereo speaker system with 2 x bass reflex speakers, 2 x tweeter speakers and 1 x subwoofer technology
Card reader: 5-in-1 Bridge Media slot (supports SD™ Cards up to 16 GB, Memory Stick® up to 256 MB, Memory Stick Pro™ up to 4 GB, MultiMedia Card™ up to 2 GB and xD-Picture Card™ up to 2 GB)
Webcam: 1.3 Megapixel
Biometric Security Device: Yes
Optical Drive: 8x DVD Super Multi (Double Layer)
Price: GBP 1099

Eurocom M570TU Montebello
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo P8600
Graphic card: NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS, 512 MB, GDDR3 <- This one beats mine
Memory: 4 GB (2 x 2GB), DDR3-1066 CL5 memory <- This one beats mine although same capacity but with a lower timing. Mine was 7-7-7-12
Harddisk drive: 160GB, 5400 rpm SATA <- I beat this one in terms of capacity but not the rotation speed
Display: WXGA+ Glossy Surface display (1440 x 900)
Keyboard: English UK keyboard
Operating System: None by default
Wireless module: Intel WiFi Link 5300 <- This one beats mine but hey, in real life, it doesn't matters as the speed will never reach the theoretical speed limit. Also, I'm not fancy in using wireless technology, with some exception like mobile phone for example
Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth + EDR module
Speaker: ???
Card reader: 7-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini-SD/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo<- This one beats mine but again, do you really utilise all the card slots available? Not for me unless you have multiple devices with different type of memory cards
Webcam: 2.0 Megapixel <- This one beats mine
Biometric Security Device: Yes
Optical Drive: 8x Multi DVD +-RW/-RAM Burner, SATA, Dual-layer, Tray-based
Price: GBP 1260

Conclusion: I still like my Toshiba laptop. The only problem that I have is to find Windows XP driver for my laptop but it is easily obtain via the net. Eurocom might have almost the same specification as mine but in this case it is a bit more expensive than mine. It might be more cheaper for other models.

corad, I hope you don't mine if I was a bit off-topic.

I can assure you, your speakers will kick most of the a$$ out there... One of the finest set of on-board speakers I've ever seen/hear. Not to mention the beautiful interior design.

Don't worry about the GPU, you can upgrade them if you feel like it later. I remember if you talk with Eurocom, they are willing to sell you individual part... like say... the GPU (X300 support up to 9800M GTX and please do not attempt this as I'm not sure).

@wilsonjay

Err no, Sager don't sell desktop.

oh..ok how good is the speakers?

The speakers? I can say very good . One of the best if not the best among other laptops. Personally i have yet to audit the latest model which comes with bass reflex and subwoofer but the 1 i did audited had superb real life like music expecially on treble and clarity. But i forgot which model it is . Conclusion Toshiba or laptops with built in harmon kardon speakers still had no rivals when it come to sound wise.

This post has been edited by kirakun: Feb 12 2009, 03:00 PM