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This is a Lamp
post Jan 29 2011, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Dell2011 @ Jan 29 2011, 08:44 AM)
tahnks for the reply

Awwhh....snap! sad.gif
with that, the price jumps to almost $1700....
and I would have to bare further costs regarding shipping if I were to send it back for repairs during the warranty period....

hmm..or get this machine:
https://www.mln.com.au/product/?itemID=1070&typeID=

around the same price point, BUT with the worry free experience of the 2 Years Onsite Pick Up & Return warranty..
What I am really puzzled about is, the current gen lappys, their pricing arent dropping much at all >: \
if they were a good 2000 or so RMs cheaper....I'd be fine with a 1st gen intel i7...but theres no discounts on the outdated tech offered by shops at lowyat plaza. If so I could pick up an XPS 15 on the cheap and it'll def last me a couple of years with fast application running, multitasking and some light gaming..and buy a more hardout notebook after I am done with uni and start working.
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Since the Australian currency is 1:1 with the US dollars now, you could in fact just get a laptop from Australia. There are a couple of decent resellers there.
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post Jan 29 2011, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Jan 29 2011, 10:58 AM)
Since the Australian currency is 1:1 with the US dollars now, you could in fact just get a laptop from Australia. There are a couple of decent resellers there.
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Cheers for the reply,

I heard its a heck of a lot more expensive buying it through an Aus retailer, getting it from the US with additional shipping and GST chargers are still alot more cheaper than getting it thru an Aus reseller.
Ive got a question to ask, how many of you Sager users have actually had to send in your lappys for repair? I mean during a period of say, 2 years (what I think is the life cycle of laptops these days, with OS and hardware upgrades coming so fast and furious).
and lastly, the Sager reseller in Singapore, sgcubehubs...do they offer Sager notebooks for sale at their shops 'physically'? or do you have to go to a little office and order them in or something? If theyve got units for sale at their retails stores, I am gonna pick up a NP8130 from there, its a lil over US$1550, which is pretty fairly priced.


Added on January 29, 2011, 11:41 amand to confirm what I read on a forum before, yes Aus resellers bump up the prices like crazy..

http://p4laptops.com.au/gaming-laptops-laptops-for-games.htm

theyre all over $3000!!
So, with the Aus and Us dollar being at 1:1 ratio, you're ending up getting raped if you buy through an Aus retailer.

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post Jan 29 2011, 12:21 PM

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apparently you can now opt for matte screen for 200usd extra yawn.gif
and also, if cost is a factor, the 6970 has been released for on the m17xr3 uk site. im sure sager will have it soon. shld be much cheaper than the 485

6970 review

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post Jan 29 2011, 12:26 PM

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WooHoo! OMFG!!! I found a reseller that actually sells Sager/Clevo/Metabox...which ever you call it...laptops at the same-ish price that you would get in the US : D : D : D
and since I could get it locally, I'd be eligible for the 1 year on-sight pick up and delivery warranty!
this is too good to be true....I am so effing happy!

http://affordablelaptops.com.au/contents/e...p-notebook.html

this is the same as the Sager NP8130
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post Jan 29 2011, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Dell2011 @ Jan 29 2011, 11:15 AM)
Cheers for the reply,

I heard its a heck of a lot more expensive buying it through an Aus retailer, getting it from the US with additional shipping and GST chargers are still alot more cheaper than getting it thru an Aus reseller.
Ive got a question to ask, how many of you Sager users have actually had to send in your lappys for repair? I mean during a period of say, 2 years (what I think is the life cycle of laptops these days, with OS and hardware upgrades coming so fast and furious).
and lastly, the Sager reseller in Singapore, sgcubehubs...do they offer Sager notebooks for sale at their shops 'physically'? or do you have to go to a little office and order them in or something? If theyve got units for sale at their retails stores, I am gonna pick up a NP8130 from there, its a lil over US$1550, which is pretty fairly priced.


Added on January 29, 2011, 11:41 amand to confirm what I read on a forum before, yes Aus resellers bump up the prices like crazy..

http://p4laptops.com.au/gaming-laptops-laptops-for-games.htm

theyre all over $3000!!
So, with the Aus and Us dollar being at 1:1 ratio, you're ending up getting raped if you buy through an Aus retailer.
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Try LogicalBlueOne from Australia as well, they have pretty good prices, and the support is as good as US resellers (I asked them a number of questions about warranty). Seems like if I bought a Sager from somewhere else, LBO are able to conduct repairs and warranty issues from their site, which is I think a brill idea.

I only ever had one Sager (not counting the ordered one) for one year. I have never noticed any problem with anything nor the need to repair a laptop. The only minor issue was, technology moved too fast for Sagers; Clevo constantly release new and better tech to be placed in their barebones, and boggles my mind how the Sager laptops get new designs every year or so.

And yeah, p4laptops....nuh uhh that's a bad place, I looked at them first and thought DAMN Australia's expensive.

QUOTE(Radagust @ Jan 29 2011, 12:21 PM)
apparently you can now opt for matte screen for 200usd extra yawn.gif
and also,  if cost is a factor, the 6970 has been released for on the m17xr3 uk site. im sure sager will have it soon. shld be much cheaper than the 485

6970 review
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It's been within grasps for Sager laptops already for a month or so but still on tests. Much like the review laptop on ur link, that's my previous laptop...oh how I miss it dearly right now actually haha. All for the better I guess.
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post Jan 29 2011, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Jan 29 2011, 12:39 PM)
And yeah, p4laptops....nuh uhh that's a bad place, I looked at them first and thought DAMN Australia's expensive.
It's been within grasps for Sager laptops already for a month or so but still on tests. Much like the review laptop on ur link, that's my previous laptop...oh how I miss it dearly right now actually haha. All for the better I guess.
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haha, how much did you sell your old rig for? must be a kingkong of a machine.
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hey guys, im on the verge of ordering a NP 8150 now since i cant really wait out for the 6970m since theres no confirmation on the date

is 2720qm, 460m 8gb ram better or
is 2630qm 485m 4gb ram better no BD ray bla
while the latter will have an extra cost of say RM600+
is it worth it if i go for the 485m, im a gamer who enjoys eye candies on every games i play

however, if there are anyone here who have a grasp of infos on the ETA of 6970m, kindly let me know as well
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post Jan 29 2011, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Radagust @ Jan 29 2011, 01:09 PM)
haha, how much did you sell your old rig for? must be a kingkong of a machine.
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Sold my NP8690 for RM3.1K just on Thaipusam. Haha it was a king kong machine last year, till it was phased out by this year's sandy bridge.


QUOTE(Pewufod @ Jan 29 2011, 03:44 PM)
hey guys, im on the verge of ordering a NP 8150 now since i cant really wait out for the 6970m since theres no confirmation on the date

is 2720qm, 460m 8gb ram better or
is 2630qm 485m    4gb ram better no BD ray bla
while the latter will have an extra cost of say RM600+
is it worth it if i go for the 485m, im a gamer who enjoys eye candies on every games i play

however, if there are anyone here who have a grasp of infos on the ETA of 6970m, kindly let me know as well
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You won't regret having the 485m because it is currently unbeaten on many benchmarks. If you can, go for that config; it will last you for a long time...but then again, the 460m is a pretty amazing card by itself as well.

ETA for the 6970m would be around end of February to March.

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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Jan 29 2011, 03:44 PM)
hey guys, im on the verge of ordering a NP 8150 now since i cant really wait out for the 6970m since theres no confirmation on the date

is 2720qm, 460m 8gb ram better or
is 2630qm 485m    4gb ram better no BD ray bla
while the latter will have an extra cost of say RM600+
is it worth it if i go for the 485m, im a gamer who enjoys eye candies on every games i play

however, if there are anyone here who have a grasp of infos on the ETA of 6970m, kindly let me know as well
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1730656/+45
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1730656/+49

This should help in your decision making.

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post Jan 29 2011, 07:44 PM

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This is a Lamp.....do you know which reseller is better, affordablelaptops.com.au or logicalblueone.com.au

the former is located in Perth, been around longest.
the latter in Queensland, closer to me as I'd be in Sydney.

Things like warranty slightly differ...but with your experience, which reseller would you recommend. This is important as build quality would vary somewhat, as theyd be bringing in barebones and putting them together locally..and also theres the after sale service factor.

Lastly, you're in OZ arent you? then why have you chose to get your NP8150 from the States.....any reasoning behind that?
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QUOTE(Dell2011 @ Jan 29 2011, 07:44 PM)
This is a Lamp.....do you know which reseller is better, affordablelaptops.com.au or logicalblueone.com.au

the former is located in Perth, been around longest.
the latter in Queensland, closer to me as I'd be in Sydney.

Things like warranty slightly differ...but with your experience, which reseller would you recommend. This is important as build quality would vary somewhat, as theyd be bringing in barebones and putting them together locally..and also theres the after sale service factor.

Lastly, you're in OZ arent you? then why have you chose to get your NP8150 from the States.....any reasoning behind that?
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I'm based in Brisbane, QLD. I personally think LogicalBlueOne is a better reseller. It doesn't matter if they are barebones or not, they are still Clevo. It is still the same quality, same laptop smile.gif. But what matters is the price (for me) and the service.

So far, LBO has answered my questions well. Second also, they are closer to me, and since they are closer to Sydney, then I would assume that the shipping is lower. It seems that their pricing is lower at times, and they offer DDR3 1600, which isn't available in 95% of the Sager resellers around the world.

And why I chose in the States? Because they are cheaper...by a small margin. I like to reek out abit of money out if I can and get the deal that doesn't clear my wallet fast enough. Not only that, I had experiences with US resellers before, and didn't like the OZ resellers before Logical. Price difference was enormous. Also, I am in Malaysia for awhile, before heading back...and I kinda like the laptop in my hands before heading back to OZ again.

And finally, we're in Malaysia! The electronics here are like food; cheaper than many western countries. I can upgrade the modules/components here easily and I'd like to do that before going back.

Australia, frankly is pretty outdated in tech...

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post Jan 29 2011, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Jan 29 2011, 07:59 PM)
I'm based in Brisbane, QLD. I personally think LogicalBlueOne is a better reseller. It doesn't matter if they are barebones or not, they are still Clevo. It is still the same quality, same laptop smile.gif. But what matters is the price (for me) and the service.

So far, LBO has answered my questions well. Second also, they are closer to me, and since they are closer to Sydney, then I would assume that the shipping is lower. It seems that their pricing is lower at times, and they offer DDR3 1600, which isn't available in 95% of the Sager resellers around the world.

And why I chose in the States? Because they are cheaper...by a small margin. I like to reek out abit of money out if I can and get the deal that doesn't clear my wallet fast enough. Not only that, I had experiences with US resellers before, and didn't like the OZ resellers before Logical. Price difference was enormous. Also, I am in Malaysia for awhile, before heading back...and I kinda like the laptop in my hands before heading back to OZ again.

And finally, we're in Malaysia! The electronics here are like food; cheaper than many western countries. I can upgrade the modules/components here easily and I'd like to do that before going back.

Australia, frankly is pretty outdated in tech...
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smile.gif thanks for the reply, it was very helpful

Yes indeed, Ive been in contact with LBO and AL since last night, and it was only LBO that got back to me...twice! AL are still yet to..
The other thing I like is, their website is easier to navigate/use hehe
AL tho, pride them selves in being the oldest most established reseller of Clevos in Australia, 10 years of experience.
They say their machines are built by 'ITC mobile computing'.
The price indeed is the most important factor, and thats why Ive gone with Clevo, it gives you more power for every dollar you spend than any other laptop manufacturer.
LBO also offer a stock 3 year warranty period, but this makes their notebooks a couple of hundred dollars more expensive. The AL machines are slightly cheaper, but come with only a 1 year warranty, if you upgrade to 3 years..it passes the cost of getting it from LBO. So theres that to consider as well.
I need my lappy soon, and with the floods up in Queensland, delivery has been on halt for quite some time sad.gif

I am thinking of getting the NP8150 with a HD in the optical drive bay tongue.gif so I can fit an SSD in there.

Now I understand why you had ordered from the US, since ure in Malaysia right now. You can avoid the gst and upgrade it easily and cheaper like you said. But what about warranty?would you be able to send it in for repairs at either LBO or AL? or would it have to go all the way to the US, with you having to bare the shipping costs?
If so, wouldnt you be better buying from OZ? ok its slightly more expensive, but you have that completely worry free experience with the 3 year onsight pick warranty cocooning you..give me your thoughts please.

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QUOTE(Dell2011 @ Jan 29 2011, 08:25 PM)
smile.gif thanks for the reply, it was very helpful

Yes indeed, Ive been in contact with LBO and AL since last night, and it was only LBO that got back to me...twice! AL are still yet to..
The other thing I like is, their website is easier to navigate/use  hehe
AL tho, pride them selves in being the oldest most established reseller of Clevos in Australia, 10 years of experience.
They say their machines are built by 'ITC mobile computing'.
The price indeed is the most important factor, and thats why Ive gone with Clevo, it gives you more power for every dollar you spend than any other laptop manufacturer.
LBO also offer a stock 3 year warranty period, but this makes their notebooks a couple of hundred dollars more expensive. The AL machines are slightly cheaper, but come with only a 1 year warranty, if you upgrade to 3 years..it passes the cost of getting it from LBO. So theres that to consider as well.
I need my lappy soon, and with the floods up in Queensland, delivery has been on halt for quite some time sad.gif

I am thinking of getting the NP8150 with a HD in the optical drive bay tongue.gif  so I can fit an SSD in there.

Now I  understand why you had ordered from the US, since ure in Malaysia right now. You can avoid the gst and upgrade it easily and cheaper like you said. But what about warranty?would you be able to send it in for repairs at either LBO or AL? or would it have to go all the way to the US, with you having to bare the shipping costs?
If so, wouldnt you be better buying from OZ? ok its slightly more expensive, but you have that completely worry free experience with the 3 year onsight pick warranty cocooning you..give me your thoughts please.
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Check with Sager/Clevo whether it's SATA III in the optical drive or not.
I heard the optical driver only has SATAII.

It's alright if you don't mind SATA II or III.
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QUOTE(Dell2011 @ Jan 29 2011, 08:25 PM)
smile.gif thanks for the reply, it was very helpful

Yes indeed, Ive been in contact with LBO and AL since last night, and it was only LBO that got back to me...twice! AL are still yet to..
The other thing I like is, their website is easier to navigate/use  hehe
AL tho, pride them selves in being the oldest most established reseller of Clevos in Australia, 10 years of experience.
They say their machines are built by 'ITC mobile computing'.
The price indeed is the most important factor, and thats why Ive gone with Clevo, it gives you more power for every dollar you spend than any other laptop manufacturer.
LBO also offer a stock 3 year warranty period, but this makes their notebooks a couple of hundred dollars more expensive. The AL machines are slightly cheaper, but come with only a 1 year warranty, if you upgrade to 3 years..it passes the cost of getting it from LBO. So theres that to consider as well.
I need my lappy soon, and with the floods up in Queensland, delivery has been on halt for quite some time sad.gif

I am thinking of getting the NP8150 with a HD in the optical drive bay tongue.gif  so I can fit an SSD in there.

Now I  understand why you had ordered from the US, since ure in Malaysia right now. You can avoid the gst and upgrade it easily and cheaper like you said. But what about warranty?would you be able to send it in for repairs at either LBO or AL? or would it have to go all the way to the US, with you having to bare the shipping costs?
If so, wouldnt you be better buying from OZ? ok its slightly more expensive, but you have that completely worry free experience with the 3 year onsight pick warranty cocooning you..give me your thoughts please.
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Yeah parts of my areas are flooded hahaha. I'm hoping my stuff + guitars isn't floating around, my lovely LED screen diving under and my bed upgraded itself to a waterbed tongue.gif

The warranty was the main reason why I was in contact with LBO; I needed to ask if they allow me to send my system to their shop and they said yes they can, because they are the Sager/Clevo reseller in Australia. So it was definitely a plus for me smile.gif

But, as I repeated many times over my older posts haha, I don't really focus on the warranty because I know I'm careful about my laptop. There *may* be accidents and I'm clumsy myself, but the Sager NP8690 I had never failed on me once, more as a reason to buy a Sager/Clevo as they are not prone to simple malfunctions that plague current consumer laptops right now.

Many users here though I seen never overlook the warranty options...I tend to skip them tongue.gif doh.gif


And for the HDD bay, I suggest you put your bigger plated hard drive instead of the SSD, and place your SSD in the actual laptop, as Alune pointed. I don't think you get the speeds you want in regards to the SSD, from the bay.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 29 2011, 08:53 PM)
Check with Sager/Clevo whether it's SATA III in the optical drive or not.
I heard the optical driver only has SATAII.

It's alright if you don't mind SATA II or III.
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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Jan 29 2011, 09:40 PM)
And for the HDD bay, I suggest you put your bigger plated hard drive instead of the SSD, and place your SSD in the actual laptop, as Alune pointed. I don't think you get the speeds you want in regards to the SSD, from the bay.
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Thanks for that guys, I'll keep that in mind. smile.gif

Aw no! I hope ur stuffs not f**cked Lamp...the waterbed thing made me chuckle x)

I thought I'd pick up some components from Lowyat before I head to OZ. Like the bracket/frame thing I need for the optical bay. And would it be cheaper for me to buy an SSD from Lowyat? I am not looking for something hardcore, an Intel 40GB SSD would do fine, I am just gonna run the OS, some programs and maybe squeeze in a game if I can.
the 7200rpm drive that comes with it....um, if I put it where the optical drive is supposed to go...would it have the same cooling solution provided like a dedicated HHD bay would? I'd assume not, as I dont really notice any vents below the dvdrom area. Thats why I thought I'd place the SSD there as it doesnt heat up like a mechanical drive would.

I am not an expert when it comes to Clevo machines...but what are their product cycle like? Are these new products? would I regret not waiting like a couple of weeks more when another even better line comes out? I know the over used saying about not chasing tech, but give me an idea how future proof a NP8150 would be.

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QUOTE(Dell2011 @ Jan 30 2011, 05:19 AM)
Thanks for that guys, I'll keep that in mind. smile.gif

Aw no! I hope ur stuffs not f**cked Lamp...the waterbed thing made me chuckle x)

I thought I'd pick up some components from Lowyat before I head to OZ. Like the bracket/frame thing I need for the optical bay. And would it be cheaper for me to buy an SSD from Lowyat? I am not looking for something hardcore, an Intel 40GB SSD would do fine, I am just gonna run the OS, some programs and maybe squeeze in a game if I can.
the 7200rpm drive that comes with it....um, if I put it where the optical drive is supposed to go...would it have the same cooling solution provided like a dedicated HHD bay would? I'd assume not, as I dont really notice any vents below the dvdrom area. Thats why I thought I'd place the SSD there as it doesnt heat up like a mechanical drive would.

I am not an expert when it comes to Clevo machines...but what are their product cycle like? Are these new products? would I regret not waiting like a couple of weeks more when another even better line comes out? I know the over used saying about not chasing tech, but give me an idea how future proof a NP8150 would be.
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It is definitely cheaper to get the components in Lowyat (the building itself) or even the sales forum, as you can haggle your way through...if you're good at that haha. Bought my Momentus XT for RM350 haha tongue.gif

I saw the optical bays in Lowyat a few weeks ago; around the insides of it is an aluminium coating, so I would assume that this was the only cooling solution provided for the HDD or any device. I don't think going as far as having vents for the HDD would matter though; the NP8690 didn't have that and HDD temps were fine.

Product cycles are I think everytime a new tech comes out, they either revise their current models to accomodate the changes or a complete new system, like the NP81x0 and NP51x0. The NP8690 had a number of revisions ranging to adding GTX 285m, ATi 5870m, GTX 460, 470 support and USB 3.0 implementations (and later the 6970m). This was over a year since the October 2009 release.

I would think that there will be revisions but minor ones, like adding new GPUs and Processors till the next set of CPUs turn out sometime in the future. However, saying that, I'm set on getting the NP8150 because I think it will be a decent machine in a long run.

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just ordered np 8130 from mucro.asia
waiting for bank transfer to processed the money
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i also just ordered a 8150 with 2630qm/485m from fesick
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I hear p65 and p67 chipset got bug ..

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Intel finds Sandy Bridge chipset design flaw, shipments stopped and recalls beginning/

A problem requiring a "silicon fix" is bad news in the chipset business, and sadly that's what Intel is announcing. Its new Intel 6 Series chipset, Cougar Point, has been found to have a flaw, something to do with the SATA controller. Intel is indicating that the ports can "degrade over time," leading to poor i/o performance down the road. All shipments have been stopped and a fix has been implemented for new deliveries, but it sounds like recalls will be starting soon for those with this ticking time bomb silicon within. It isn't a critical problem right now, though, so if you own a Sandy Bridge Core i5 or Core i7 system keep computing with confidence while looking for a recall notice, but it is bad news for Intel's bottom line: the company is advising a $300 million hit to revenue.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/31/intel-f...pments-stopped/

Potential recall for sager models? hmm.gif

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