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radovantz
post May 20 2015, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(setandan @ May 20 2015, 05:21 PM)
mine is the year 2009 (no magnetic shield)  cry.gif
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It is not that bad.. to me, Wharfedale Diamond 9 is still the best speaker I ever purchased.
Only problem is their manufacturing quality, and also finishing quality..

I don't want to sell my Wharfedale Diamond 9 because new speakers can't guarantee the same sound quality.

Now I am working to build DIY speaker box myself to replace my existing Diamond 9 boxes, due to age..
The cabinets start to tear, and swelling up. I think it is caused by poor finishing technique, where the outer sheet is terminated at every corner of cabinet, expose them to wet environment.

Unlike Mission cabinet, the outer sheet is terminated inside the cabinet, promising better water proof, long lasting.

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post May 20 2015, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(radovantz @ May 20 2015, 06:44 PM)
It is not that bad.. to me, Wharfedale Diamond 9 is still the best speaker I ever purchased.
Only problem is their manufacturing quality, and also finishing quality..

I don't want to sell my Wharfedale Diamond 9 because new speakers can't guarantee the same sound quality.

Now I am working to build DIY speaker box myself to replace my existing Diamond 9 boxes, due to age..
The cabinets start to tear, and swelling up. I think it is caused by poor finishing technique, where the outer sheet is terminated at every corner of cabinet, expose them to wet environment.

Unlike Mission cabinet, the outer sheet is terminated inside the cabinet, promising better water proof, long lasting.
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Is the same the limited edition too? Maybe you can another used pair hmm.gif
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post May 20 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(radovantz @ May 20 2015, 06:14 PM)
This is comparison between the drivers of Wharfedale Diamond 9.1
I believe there is manufacturing year printed on the driver.

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Left : Year 2009 (no magnetic shield)    Right : Year 2006 (got magnetic shield)

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Left : Year 2006 (okay)  Right : Year 2009 (teared)

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I've got a pair of 9.1 sent for repair, long time no news, hmm it's time to remind blush.gif
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post May 27 2015, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(wim1983 @ May 20 2015, 08:21 PM)
I've got a pair of 9.1 sent for repair, long time no news, hmm it's time to remind blush.gif
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bro,
i notice your denton set, is red wire to HF terminal and black wire to LF terminal.
does it sound better than either HF-HF or LF-LF?

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post May 28 2015, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ May 27 2015, 12:55 PM)
bro,
i notice your denton set, is red wire to HF terminal and black wire to LF terminal.
does it sound better than either HF-HF or LF-LF?
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Follow back manual, more transparent kut, but then this Denton, need long burn in time yawn.gif
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post Jun 17 2015, 01:56 PM

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is the diamond 9.1 made in china or uk..pls enlighten me
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post Jun 17 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jun 17 2015, 02:56 PM)
is the diamond 9.1 made in china or uk..pls enlighten me
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Does not matter where it is made, it's good then good, those Anniversary edition all are fine thumbup.gif
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post Jun 24 2015, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jun 17 2015, 01:56 PM)
is the diamond 9.1 made in china or uk..pls enlighten me
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If I am not wrong, Wharfedale Diamond 9 is the first diamond series made in China by IAG.
We cannot avoid hifi products made in China nowadays since all major brands already invested there including NAD, Denon, Marantz, also high end brands Anthem and Cyrus (many more).
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post Jun 26 2015, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(radovantz @ Jun 24 2015, 10:00 AM)
If I am not wrong, Wharfedale Diamond 9 is the first diamond series made in China by IAG.
We cannot avoid hifi products made in China nowadays since all major brands already invested there including NAD, Denon, Marantz, also high end brands Anthem and Cyrus (many more).
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Even Dynaudio bought by Chinese, those Chi-Fi owner got really lots of gold and rich laugh.gif

But then I think design still by mat salleh, just that production control and service you need to deal with good seller and take care of it
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post Jun 30 2015, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(radovantz @ Jun 24 2015, 10:00 AM)
If I am not wrong, Wharfedale Diamond 9 is the first diamond series made in China by IAG.
We cannot avoid hifi products made in China nowadays since all major brands already invested there including NAD, Denon, Marantz, also high end brands Anthem and Cyrus (many more).
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u have a diamond 9.1.. how is the character? isit nice?
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post Jun 30 2015, 12:50 PM

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Why

So biased against Made-in-china stuff?? I personally will try n read up abt durability of said model [if possible] and/or brand..
There are so many Made-in-'Watever Picks Your Fancy' which die early..
If parts/QC is bad, then it dont really matter where it is made..

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post Jun 30 2015, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Jun 30 2015, 12:50 PM)
Why

So biased against Made-in-china stuff?? I personally will try n read up abt durability of said model [if possible] and/or brand..
There are so many Made-in-'Watever Picks Your Fancy' which die early..
If parts/QC is bad, then it dont really matter where it is made..

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post Jul 1 2015, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jun 30 2015, 11:38 AM)
u have a diamond 9.1.. how is the character? isit nice?
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Diamond 9.1 is the best speaker as compared to other speakers I ever owned.
It performs very well with all music, classic, rock, black metal.
(Unlike Mission incapable to drive metal music without harsh)

Diamond 9.1 is good enough to test whether one amp or AVR is good or not.
Years ago I paired this speaker with Denon AVR-1909 & 1905, it really produce lifelike sound quality.

But finishing is the big problem. Speaker cabinet start to tear and broke due to age.
I want to rebuild speaker cabinet myself and maintain the original parts.
Many cash spent already on woodwork, but still don't get to produce a nice one.
Buying new speakers seems not promising same quality as Diamond 9.

I only have 2 options, whether to rebuild speaker cabinet for existing diamond 9.1,
or buy more expensive speakers like B&W cry.gif
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post Jul 1 2015, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Jun 30 2015, 12:50 PM)
Why

So biased against Made-in-china stuff?? I personally will try n read up abt durability of said model [if possible] and/or brand..
There are so many Made-in-'Watever Picks Your Fancy' which die early..
If parts/QC is bad, then it dont really matter where it is made..

smile.gif
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I remember when I was a kid, our people were so biased against local goods.
There were 2 category of goods, local (bad) and original (good).
Buying local goods was a kind of humiliation.
But this idea is no longer spoken.
Yamaha, Sony, Pioneer, Onkyo, are made in Malaysia.

Now problem with bad idea about Made in China goods.
Many hifi products from reputable brands are now made in China.
If the product is performing good, no issues then.
But if the product breaks down, we start to blame China

This post has been edited by radovantz: Jul 1 2015, 11:18 AM
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post Jul 1 2015, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(radovantz @ Jul 1 2015, 10:57 AM)
Diamond 9.1 is the best speaker as compared to other speakers I ever owned.
It performs very well with all music, classic, rock, black metal.
(Unlike Mission incapable to drive metal music without harsh)

Diamond 9.1 is good enough to test whether one amp or AVR is good or not.
Years ago I paired this speaker with Denon AVR-1909 & 1905, it really produce lifelike sound quality.

But finishing is the big problem. Speaker cabinet start to tear and broke due to age.
I want to rebuild speaker cabinet myself and maintain the original parts.
Many cash spent already on woodwork, but still don't get to produce a nice one.
Buying new speakers seems not promising same quality as Diamond 9.

I only have 2 options, whether to rebuild speaker cabinet for existing diamond 9.1,
or buy more expensive speakers like B&W  cry.gif
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Expensive does not mean that you will like it..
Tried it before??
Wat makes u so sure tat it will be better than de 9.1?
Cos its more expensive??

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post Jul 2 2015, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Jul 1 2015, 01:04 PM)
Expensive does not mean that you will like it..
Tried  it before??
Wat makes u so sure tat it will be better than de 9.1?
Cos its more expensive??

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You are right. Expensive does not guarantee best sound either.. smile.gif
Also we don't know maybe the expensive part is more on finishing than speaker itself
Honestly to say that i did hear dynaudio speaker in hifi showroom and it did not impress me at all.
although it is an expensive speaker in the market. Maybe not my taste.
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post Jul 2 2015, 12:24 AM

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Wow ... so many Wharfedale Diamond users here.
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post Jul 2 2015, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(radovantz @ Jul 1 2015, 11:15 AM)
Buying local goods was a kind of humiliation.
But this idea is no longer spoken.
Yamaha, Sony, Pioneer, Onkyo, are made in Malaysia.

Now problem with bad idea about Made in China goods.
Many hifi products from reputable brands are now made in China.
If the product is performing good, no issues then.
But if the product breaks down, we start to blame China
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1) Consumers have no choice but to accept assembled or manufactured products at China (since most moved manufacturing to China)
2) If products were to be still made in their home countries, expect the pricing not the same as current. The reasons are obvious. I'm not sure but Japan used to keep the very best for their home market and not for export. Easy to see..words and inscriptions are all in Japanese language.
3) China have a lot of fakes, clones or imitation products. Till their government put a stop to this or importing countries are more stringent on such imports, consumers will continue to fear such products that will spoil buyer confidence. Sorry to say, Malaysia is a dump house with all sorts to be found everywhere.
4) All branded and legitimate products are manufactured under license, I reckon most of the world have accepted this and those few who complain or biased are a minority and mostly ignored.

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post Jul 2 2015, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(radovantz @ Jul 2 2015, 12:18 AM)
You are right.  Expensive does not guarantee best sound either.. smile.gif
Also we don't know maybe the expensive part is more on finishing than speaker itself
Honestly to say that i did hear dynaudio speaker in hifi showroom and it did not impress me at all.
although it is an expensive speaker in the market. Maybe not my taste.
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You,

Are absolutely rite.. Sound is very subjective.. just becos it cost tons don't mean you will like it..
Rule of thumb - if you can't hear a difference between 2 spkrs then choose de cheaper one..

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post Jul 2 2015, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Jul 2 2015, 08:46 AM)
You,

Are absolutely rite.. Sound is very subjective.. just becos it  cost tons don't mean you will like it..
Rule of thumb - if you can't hear a difference between 2 spkrs then choose de cheaper one..

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If anything, sonic differences between different speaker types is actually one of the easiest thing to hear for. The better advice would be to choose based your own listening taste and preference, regardless of price.
But if the more "expensive" speakers sound more enjoyable or suitable to your own listening taste and the wallet is feeling generous, go for it then.

But whatever it may be, please don't fall into the "sour grapes" trap. There are some who will hentam the more expensive things saying that it's a con job or whatever, but actually they are just jealous of other people's affordability and have some inferiority complex of their own. Not referring to anyone in the Wharfedale thread here of course (but in some other threads whistling.gif ).

This post has been edited by mugenfoo: Jul 2 2015, 12:04 PM

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