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post Jan 15 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(wim1983 @ Jan 14 2015, 04:34 PM)
+1 for stereo imaging feel thumbup.gif , subwoofer is way too heavy for small room, also I dun like 2.1 setup as compare to 2.0 rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(radovantz @ Jan 12 2015, 04:23 PM)
Wharfedale was not my favourite speaker brand. But since I bought one Diamond 9.1 in 2005, so far, Wharfedale Diamond 9 has been the longest model in my possession until today.

But my ear don't really get excited with Diamond 8 and 10.
Don't know about Diamond 100 or 200 series..
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I bought 9.1, then sell it and get 10.1, then sell it and get back 9.1 biggrin.gif

QUOTE(radovantz @ Jan 12 2015, 07:19 PM)
Now Wharfedale Diamond 100 and 200 series seems not to continue the curve design of Diamond 9 and 10 series. So why did they do that for?

I am going to re-build my Diamond 9 cabinet to get them back into a box shape smile.gif
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curve cabinet higher cost...


QUOTE(darkskies @ Jan 13 2015, 12:23 AM)
I'm currently using this setup for my room entertainment. Wharfedale diamond 10.1 bass seems to be very sufficient for me. I personally hate heart thumping bass. I like clarity which gives soundstage and concert feel type quality speakers. I believe to meet such demand... 1-3k price range might not be sufficient unless i'm going with earphone or headphone solution..
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u can play with the sub volume and crossover, not a problem.

QUOTE(radovantz @ Jan 15 2015, 07:07 PM)
I am afraid if I share my findings here might cause other people getting hurt cry.gif

My first AVR was Marantz SR4500 work with Mission M34 series. One year later I bought Denon AVR-1905 and Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 package for second setup. I made terrible mistake when I sell out Mission M34 because I blame the Mission for bright sound as compared to Wharfedale. One day I switched system to pair Marantz and Wharfedale, I realize that it was the Marantz fault for being bright. Oh no.. doh.gif

From using Wharedale Diamond 9.1, I know that Marantz SR4500 sound bright. Yamaha RX-V800 sounds good but lack of realism. Denon AVR-1909, and 1905 sound great like produced from actual event. Denon AVR-1910 sound a bit shy and not so real. Denon AVR-2312 sound more focus on midrange, but too safe, it cannot deliver realistic sound as good as 1905, sometimes a bit bright. Onkyo TX-NR609 sounds grrrreatt..

Now my Onkyo TX-NR609 is the best sound AVR in my setup, it has passed the Wharfedale Examination laugh.gif
Therefore the Onkyo got Wharfedale's approval  to run Mission MX3 in my hall setup. rclxms.gif
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I only tried pair my 9.1 with pioneer, sound OK. Marantz and Yamaha not my cup of tea

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QUOTE(radovantz @ Jan 15 2015, 07:07 PM)
I am afraid if I share my findings here might cause other people getting hurt cry.gif

My first AVR was Marantz SR4500 work with Mission M34 series. One year later I bought Denon AVR-1905 and Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 package for second setup. I made terrible mistake when I sell out Mission M34 because I blame the Mission for bright sound as compared to Wharfedale. One day I switched system to pair Marantz and Wharfedale, I realize that it was the Marantz fault for being bright. Oh no.. doh.gif

From using Wharedale Diamond 9.1, I know that Marantz SR4500 sound bright. Yamaha RX-V800 sounds good but lack of realism. Denon AVR-1909, and 1905 sound great like produced from actual event. Denon AVR-1910 sound a bit shy and not so real. Denon AVR-2312 sound more focus on midrange, but too safe, it cannot deliver realistic sound as good as 1905, sometimes a bit bright. Onkyo TX-NR609 sounds grrrreatt..

Now my Onkyo TX-NR609 is the best sound AVR in my setup, it has passed the Wharfedale Examination laugh.gif
Therefore the Onkyo got Wharfedale's approval  to run Mission MX3 in my hall setup. rclxms.gif
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wow...and thanks for yours opinions,no wonder la my onkyo TX SR578 pair with diamond 155 sounded wonderful rclxm9.gif
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Anyone knows a good t-amp and how to acquire it to drive a pair of diamonds 8.1...would be awesome!!! Thanks!!! I think i can get more out of it compared to how its used now.

Currently is being hooked up as rear speakers and is not outshone by my JPW fronts and harman center and rel strata II sub.

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QUOTE(WanTheBear @ May 7 2015, 09:05 PM)
Anyone knows a good t-amp and how to acquire it to drive a pair of diamonds 8.1...would be awesome!!! Thanks!!! I think i can get more out of it compared to how its used now.

Currently is being hooked up as rear speakers and is not outshone by my JPW fronts and harman center and rel strata II sub.
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I have some bad experience pairing Wharfedale speakers with T-amp like Topping TP60, the treble sibilance occurs from track to track, though I'm not sure about Diamond 8.1, I driving a pair of Diamond 122, later on found that it work well with same British family amp i.e. NAD 3020i, or perhaps a proper matching amp
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QUOTE(wim1983 @ May 9 2015, 10:27 AM)
I have some bad experience pairing Wharfedale speakers with T-amp like Topping TP60, the treble sibilance occurs from track to track, though I'm not sure about Diamond 8.1, I driving a pair of Diamond 122, later on found that it work well with same British family amp i.e. NAD 3020i, or perhaps a proper matching amp
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In my personal experinces, Class D/T amp can very energy effecient, but hardly can be acceptable for audiophine quality. Too much details are lost.
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QUOTE(chanhin @ May 11 2015, 02:57 PM)
In my personal experinces, Class D/T amp can very energy effecient, but hardly can be acceptable for audiophine quality. Too much details are lost.
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Not really, until you heard a "real no hype designed" class D amp, and do not become so bias at the term "Class D', they are by no means all design to be same, look for decent design concept one, you will not look back A, A/B, etc... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wim1983 @ May 11 2015, 06:46 PM)
Not really, until you heard a "real no hype designed" class D amp, and do not become so bias at the term "Class D', they are by no means all design to be same, look for decent design concept one, you will not look back A, A/B, etc... rclxms.gif
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Yes.. Maybe some Class D design are acceptable quality... But never seen one in real life. I had tried some... All dissapointed.

Anyway, it is still ok for those not demanding audiophine quality. Thier sound is still very clear etc..
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QUOTE(chanhin @ May 11 2015, 07:19 PM)
Yes.. Maybe some Class D design are acceptable quality... But never seen one in real life. I had tried some... All dissapointed.

Anyway, it is still ok for those not demanding audiophine quality. Thier sound is still very clear etc..
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Check out this hybrid Class A/D amplifer from France: Devialet D-Premier.

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/devialet2/1.html

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QUOTE(mugenfoo @ May 11 2015, 11:00 PM)
Check out this hybrid Class A/D amplifer from France: Devialet D-Premier.

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/devialet2/1.html
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lol, is that the designer? Looks handsome and rich, so much of snake oil and cash drool.gif
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QUOTE(mugenfoo @ May 11 2015, 10:00 PM)
Check out this hybrid Class A/D amplifer from France: Devialet D-Premier.

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/devialet2/1.html
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I remember seeing something like this in the last AV show, it is quite impressive
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QUOTE(mugenfoo @ May 11 2015, 10:00 PM)
Check out this hybrid Class A/D amplifer from France: Devialet D-Premier.

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/devialet2/1.html
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Interesting class AD concept. And nice looking... notworthy.gif

Well... It is not a class D amp after all.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wim1983 @ May 11 2015, 10:32 PM)
lol, is that the designer? Looks handsome and rich, so much of snake oil and cash drool.gif
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It is a class A amp driving 4 class D amps with no output filter

It has nothing new. Just some marketing gimmicks. The Garde design from Australia can definitely beat it to the ground. See it for yourself.

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publication...OC&locale=de_EP



There are tone of good amps out there, the matter if they are suit your taste and mood.
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QUOTE(fx20 @ May 12 2015, 07:33 AM)
It is a class A amp driving 4 class D amps with no output filter

It  has nothing new. Just some marketing gimmicks. The Garde design from Australia can definitely beat it to the ground. See it for yourself.

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publication...OC&locale=de_EP
There are tone of good amps out there, the matter if they are suit your taste and mood.
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Yes, exactly, it's the mood determine everything, and money haha, I think AB amp even not much different from Class D amp, just people mind is fishy brows.gif
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QUOTE(wim1983 @ May 12 2015, 08:35 AM)
Yes, exactly, it's the mood determine everything, and money haha, I think AB amp even not much different from Class D amp, just people mind is fishy brows.gif
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My friend, you can get a class A preamp and drive your new class D poweramp, there is your hybrid. brows.gif
Plus, your have output filter ... then you can claim, ultra silent hybrid.

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QUOTE(fx20 @ May 12 2015, 11:10 AM)
My friend, you can get a class A preamp and drive your new class D poweramp, there is your hybrid.  brows.gif
Plus, your have output filter ... then you can claim, ultra silent hybrid.
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hmm, I guess no matter how good this hybrid amp is, it still back to the recording source audio to decide rolleyes.gif

More money on better mastering music, less money on over hype technology on gears... cool.gif
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QUOTE(wim1983 @ May 13 2015, 02:43 PM)
hmm, I guess no matter how good this hybrid amp is, it still back to the recording source audio to decide rolleyes.gif

More money on better mastering music, less money on over hype technology on gears... cool.gif
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expensive not equal to good lah. when i saw it use switching power supply, it already turned me off
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QUOTE(fx20 @ May 13 2015, 04:22 PM)
expensive not equal to good lah. when i saw it use switching power supply, it already turned me off
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Well SMPS is just fine, if properly designed, everything else same, it really depend how good is the art afterall rclxms.gif
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anyone know where to buy rubber surround for diamond 9.1.. my speaker torn already.. icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(setandan @ May 14 2015, 11:30 PM)
anyone know where to buy rubber surround for diamond 9.1.. my speaker torn already..  icon_question.gif
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wow, how you manage to do that? laugh.gif

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