hi,
i have dell s2409w and using rm50 hdmi cable for my 360 gaming. and i already set the 360 to 1080p. but when i play a games, the image is not sharp enuf..would you anybody help me please (especially who have s2409w).do i need to swicth for another cable?

cable got nothing to do with image quality. all HDMI cables under 5 meter gives out the same output.

what game are you playing anyway?

edit: i just checked.


that is your culprit. 1000 to 1 is so poor when most LCD out there are dispensing over 3000 to 1 nowadays.

sauce chilli : http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/29/dell-sl...9w-lcd-monitor/

check out the comments below the post. most of them are negative and explaining why this monitor is crappy.

This post has been edited by technophile: Sep 17 2008, 10:05 PM

as for the contrast ratio, it wont bother me. it is just for brightness and darkness image ratio.but it still fine..however, what really bothering me is the line is not very sharp enuf..i dont know if it a frame rate issue based on the cable or the game just not support anti-aliasing or the game just run on 720p

contrast ratio affects the "line" of the image. more dense contrast will produce sharper image as there's more pixel per 1 square inch. 1000:1 is just too bad.

just like normal images created by digicam. more megapixels define the clarity of the image and the level of detail they can contain.

once again, there's nothing wrong with cheap HDMI cables as long as you dun exceed 5 meters. anything less than that, the picture quality will be the same regardless how expensive the cable that you use.

edit : again, if you suspect the games being the culprit, kindly state what game are you playing and giving you the problem.

a quick check on my GTA4 box for 360 says "HDTV 720p/1080i/1080p". that's the latest game that i got.

This post has been edited by technophile: Sep 17 2008, 11:25 PM

Sorry if this sounds stupid, what options from the menu do you have when setting up the monitor? I might be able to give you my little opinion if you can list them out. I used to play on a 32 inch 2000:1 contrast LCD TV, couldn't take it, got a 50 inch 5000:1 LCD TV, still not happy with it and sold them for a 24 inch 50000:1 LCD monitor.

technophile is spot on about the cable, so don't worry too much about it.

what monitor is that bro? care to tell?
i'm on the lookout for a good monitor too.

no offense but you gotta watch out for the numbers. manufacturers trick around with the numbers, making consumers believe that the bigger the number the better. there are currently no standard way of measuring contrast. you have the static contrast which will give you 1000:1 or 2000:1 and then there's dynamic contrast where it can go up to 50000:1. usually, a high dynamic contrast doesn't mean it has a high static contrast, which is referred by most ppl as the true contrast. you can google for the details of dynamic and static contrast.

some manufacturers will display the bigger dynamic contrast number instead of the static contrast. there are also some who display both numbers, dynamic and static. it all boils down to marketing.

funny thing is, all of the comments in the website that technophile gave are coming from ppl who haven't even tried using the screen before. here's a review from someone who actually tried it: http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum...pic.php?t=14311.

haha yes i do own a s2409w, and i think it's great.


neways, abulolah, try turning up the "sharpness" setting and see whether it improves or not?

It's Acer's G24.. pretty cheap as well compared to other 24", RM1388.

Yeah, figures means nothing much. But so I'm quite satisfied with it so far, batter than most LCD TVs I've tested with so far if size is put aside.

i tried to look out for monitor which got contrast ratio 3000:1 before. unfortunately i found 3000:1 but is just for dynamic contrast ratio.could u please recommend on what monitor got that?

This post has been edited by abulolah: Sep 18 2008, 10:51 AM

i think technopiile maybe confuse..

the contrast ratio got two types.which is typical and dynamic

i think for LCD nowadays typical 1000:1 is quite normal..

and usually those big numbers are dynamic such as samsung 2253bw with dynamic contrast 8000:1

This post has been edited by oyama: Sep 18 2008, 01:10 PM

Uhm there are hardly any LCD Monitors(mind you, NOT TVs) that has anything more than a typical 3000:1 contrast ratio. Infact, 1000:1 on a TN panel is considered very good. You want higher contrast ratio? You gotta pay up for a TV.

Monitors just don't cut it, because no one sits 10 feet away from a 24 inch monitor now do they?

Dynamic Contrast Ratio in a whole, is marketing gimmick. Only BenQ and LG does justice to DCR right now, their DCR features actually DO work unlike the marketing tricks especially Samsung that has been lying to customers long enough.

And I happen to sit right in front of my monitor, about 2-3 feet away at most Like I always said, figures means nothing much for contrast ratio. At the end of the day it's your satisfaction you can get is the most important. There's another topic that discuss calibration on the same monitor you are using now TC, may be you should take a look at it.

Not really, contrast ratio does mean quite a bit for TVs. Not so for monitors.

If you truelly want absolute black levels, the only way it to get a projector or one of those Pioneer Kuro. If not, be happy with what you have.

I use a very simple method to test out the contrast ability by keeping the same contrast setting and compare Blue Dragon's title screen and Gears of Wars campaign mode's opening (details in the cell). I think both are at opposite extremes thus a good indicator. Of course, I could always use the calibration DVD to make more accurate judgment, but I'm not so sure how to enter LCD monitors' serviceman mode, if they have that, so it's pointless.

This post has been edited by gundamalpha: Sep 18 2008, 11:51 PM

Just asking whom have the Dell S2409W play with PS3 connected to the PC LCD monitor using HDMI-DVI converter?

How's the quality of the picture & sound compare to PS3 direct connect to HDMI PC LCD monitor?

Because I'm planning to buy...

You can use HDMI-HDMI cable instead of a HDMI-DVI converter because the S2409W has the HDMI port..

There's a review of this LCD by someone and you should take a look at it..it is tested on PS3 via HDMI too..
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum...pic.php?t=14311

Just direct HDMI from PS3 to S2409W laaa.... no adapters or switch-through cables needed.

Read up Hwaorang5's review to find out more.

...huhu.is it true this lcd cannot produce good image for xbox gaming?. now i need to think twice before buying this lcd-_-

don worry bro..
i also using lcd monitor playing xbox now...
it's look great 4 me..
i m using asus monitor...
prefect graphic 2 me..
i got 1 HDMI to DVI cable 1 2 sell if u interest can pm me...

Why use HDMI-DVI connector when you can use HDMI-HDMI cable??

I am still waiting for mine..I ordered this online.. But base on the review done by Hwaorang5 its pretty good.. I'll evaluate it for you dude when I received mine..

BTW, here's some setting I found on the previous thread, maybe this will help..

for
pc on dvi
brightness = 35
contrast = 96
input colour format = RGB
mode selection = grahpics
preset mode = warm

ps3 on hdmi
brightness = 30
contrast = 90
input colour format = RGB
mode selection = video
preset mode = nature