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Complain against on " ongbs " seller, Seller refuse to refund. Bad seller !

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fantasy1989	Sep 5 2008, 01:07 PM Return to original view \| Post #1
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,707 posts Joined: May 2008	TS should google before buy anything =) thats all
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fantasy1989	Sep 5 2008, 05:10 PM Return to original view \| Post #2
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,707 posts Joined: May 2008	QUOTE(Caspian @ Sep 5 2008, 05:04 PM) Thank you for your simple understanding sentense "i wanted to buy apple but got orange" and yes I am angry because the seller mislead me and cause all this trouble. I am a human too so I'll get angry too who wont? And seller dont talk like you are very nice and polite (what kind of seller who argue with buyer I qwant to ask?) ongbs you are a very bad temper also from what I sense from your atittude. [/color] Intel got two kind/type of this processor. Read this review http://reviews.ebay.com/Intel-apos-s-479-S...T:-1:LISTINGS:1 Who is rude? me or irresponsible seller? Refund or no refund? I will let the reader here decide. well...i saw the post #8 ...u rude with the seller 1st and 1 more thing ....u should check everything before u buy something ....he just said it is[color=orange]orange then u assume it is orange u must check whether the product is orange or pineapple before buy it This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Sep 5 2008, 05:14 PM
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fantasy1989	Sep 5 2008, 05:23 PM Return to original view \| Post #3
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,707 posts Joined: May 2008	QUOTE Think before you speak up. I never promise to answer any of your calls or sms and I am really out of credit at that moment even with credit when I am in working hour, my boss do not allow any of his staff talking to his/her private handphone so I usually off it. like u said ...based on the picture ....u also never think before you speak out seller already sent out the item on 2 something but u didnt trust him ....your attitude also same ...called "RUDE" maybe some one using him pc or what ...then u just tembak it without any notice QUOTE I'd checked ongbs's sales thread for several times. I did not see he mentioned the cpu is s478. yup ...seller does not said "THE SOCKET FOR THE PROCESSOR IS SOCKET 478" This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Sep 5 2008, 05:26 PM Attached thumbnail(s)
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fantasy1989	Sep 5 2008, 05:36 PM Return to original view \| Post #4
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,707 posts Joined: May 2008	QUOTE(ah_heng @ Sep 5 2008, 05:35 PM) Buyer: From what I understand, it's your fault not checking thoroughly before buying. Seller: From my experience, no point being so defensive on what you think it's right. Sometimes what's right doesn't means good. Since you are in the "business", it's good to have one additional friend then having half an enemy, because when they spread the news, it can be thousand times inaccurate. No point curing a problem when u can prevent it from happening. If you think refunding is not an option, why not do an exchange, but charge him 10-20% premium for the thing the seller needs. Always find win-win solution. And you are looking for a long term business, sometimes you need to loose a couple hundreds to earn back a few thousands.. You know that!! Buyer: THINK before you BUY! nice solution also QUOTE(buysell @ Sep 5 2008, 05:36 PM) I vote "yes". Customer is always right & you shouldn't revenge on your buyer. I always refund my customer if not satisfying with my items sold no matter how rude they are. It's makes me feel good & warmer so that every night I can sleep well. Good luck to you TS. customer might be BIGGER but seller got said no refund due compareable issue before SELL the product.... it mean T&C take a examples~ one CUSTOMER buy a HDD from a seller ....then the customer spoil the HDD with physical damage ...then should be SELLER change a new HDD to him? no exchange a brand new the customer might angry =enemy T&C are always applied =) sorry for my bad examples This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Sep 5 2008, 05:40 PM
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fantasy1989	Sep 5 2008, 10:10 PM Return to original view \| Post #5
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,707 posts Joined: May 2008	QUOTE(phreak_id @ Sep 5 2008, 09:44 PM) It's my 2 cent. Sorry if i use non-suitable wording since my english is not so good.. TO BUYER : 1) u made a mistake when u didn't survey properly what item u want to buy. IMHO only desperate buyer will buy a thing without thinking twice.. and ur quote "i m a experience it technician for 15yrs now repairing & installing thousand of notebooks & processor b4 not some newbie la" clearly turn into your fault since u talk so big describing yourself but did a mistake doesnt check the info clearly.. And since Seller admit that he's not a pro in Notebook thingy, u should aware the possibility misleading information of the item. 2) if i'm a buyer, i will clarify the item i wanna buy clearly especially when seller stated that he won't responsible with compability issue.. it's risky.. 3) u know u want a refund, why dont use a good manner when asking for it. TO SELLER : 1) U should responsible too since u know this kind of problem will arise especially when u are not clear with what u want to sell(u know what u want to sell, but u didn't realise u may point a wrong information to the buyer). Just dont be cocky and refund him but, to make it fair, BUYER should bear the cost of postage. I don't see u lose anything here coz u still can sell it to other people.. (at least u have somebody to put i ur blacklist name for ur next sales ) about the possibility of the item not working after Seller refund, i really can't think of anything. U guys discuss it properly.. seller have a right dont want to refund to buyer.... just depends on seller think This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Sep 5 2008, 10:11 PM
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fantasy1989	Sep 6 2008, 02:39 AM Return to original view \| Post #6
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,707 posts Joined: May 2008	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(siemens6688 @ Sep 5 2008, 11:55 PM) TS, Socket 478 has MANY type. 1 is mPGA 478 (for desktop) , Another is Micro-fcPGA (mfPGA) which is mobile processor (Start from Pentium 4m, Pentium M, Celeron M, to Core Duo). Also have another 478pin named "Socket P" which is support "Core 2 Duo" processor from codename "merom" till the latest "penryn". Micro-FCPGA clarifies that the socket uses a "Flip-Chip Pin Grid Array". All Socket P's are Micro-FCPGA but not all Micro-FCPGA sockets are Socket P. Why i know? Cos i "google" it, thats easy..... and the seller also provide the "sSpec Number (eg:SL9YL) " for you. You can search this number among google or yahoo until Intel's website, it still show you that's Micro-fcPGA 478pin. Seller did state that this is "Micro-fcPGA" processor at start. If you search "SL9YL" on the website, you will find out that this is Intel XEON Processor with 2.33Ghz\1333Mhz\8MB but IT WAS USING LGA771 SOCKET, NOT LGA775. Some XEON did use LGA 775, so that's why Intel provide "sSpec Number" for you all to VERIFY YOUR MAINBOARD's SOCKET or SUPPORT BEFORE EARN YOUR POCKET MONEY..... Very simple i said. I want to sell my Proton Wira 1.5GL, then you view my car and start my engine + trying on the street, after testing you are satisfield and you pay me 10k as downpayment then we deal, the rest will wait for the bank approve. After 2 days you come to my house and asking for deposit refund with RUDE, keep saying LOUD that i have cheat'ed you that my Wira WAS NOT FUEL INJECTION, i have told you earlier that my Wira is 1.5GL, not 1.5GLi, you even not open my bonet to view my engine and you already paid me the deposit straight away. You even said that you is PRO and have knowledge about 15 YEARS but GL & GLi you also donno....... Should i refund to you then? My Consolution: After seller have been put all "sales descriptions" with full detail, buyer have to "100% sure thats the items is suitable for his replacement" After money paid mean both of seller and buyer know agree this deal, and buyer should know what he\she buying, not seller . QUOTE(ongbs @ Sep 6 2008, 01:57 AM) Sorry, all ppl got their own points... I didn't hope all ppl got same opinion like mine...but keep in mind that seller also a normal human, got emotion, temper etc.... I may forgive ppl who really did wrong to me 1st time...but didn't mean that I must forgive them 2nd time right? Many examples can be given, beside cars... Let say you are a boss of a shop, customer break some glass stuffs in your shop, the items are put properly on the rack. With a sticker "Handle with care. Once break, consider sold!". The items not too expensive, let say RM80. What is your(boss) reaction if the customer react this way: Customer: "Sorry boss, this is my fault that I didn't handle it properly, I will responsible and pay for it." Well, settle? Good customer! the boss said..."it is OK, luckily you didn't hurt yourself. You no need to pay for it". like a joke? No, I faced this situation before. At last I paid him a lower price as "compensation". I can't think of what will happen if the scenario like this: Customer shout to the boss, "hey! why you put glass stuffs like that?" boss: "sorry, all these stuffs put nicely on the proper rack and we did put a "sticker" on the rack. customer: "Luckily I didn't get hurt! I am not gonna pay for it as it got no use to me all all! If you want me to pay, I will sue you." Well boss, what will you react? I believe not all boss will say ""it is OK, luckily you didn't hurt yourself. You no need to pay for it". Some issues really can be solved easily, it depends on how we handle it.... In my case, should I just refund to the buyer after all this "non trust" to me? and say " sorry friend, is my fault, I refund you full amount"? Well, I got too much free time to burn? I rush to pos laju office that is around 10km away, my car running on "water" or what? I searched all the pm with the buyer and I can't find a single human word like "sorry", "It is my careless" etc! I only can find sentences sound like "It is your fault, you are wrong" etc. Well, some friends read through all this dispute thread and MSN me: " Nothing wrong in your sales thread. you got no obligation to refund, it will just make you look like Ah Beng! (fool)" Should I be that kind/generous? and say "sorry friend, is my fault, I refund you"? Put you in my situation, how many of you can be this kind? nice example anyway where TS??? lose in space?
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fantasy1989	Sep 6 2008, 04:51 PM Return to original view \| Post #7
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,707 posts Joined: May 2008	well see vote n know all reader judge reader eye is not blind anyway ..i support seller ....because is he no check before buy and since HE HAVE 15 YEARS IT PROFESSIONAL knowledge .....seller also wont say too much about the product right??? like u want buy a cooler from a seller You: Do you have xigmatek red scorpion(example) Seller :Yes ~ this cooler is make by copper based ~~~~not even finish all explain You: I HAVE 15 YEARS IT KNOWLEDGE AND INSTALL OVER HUNDRED OF COOLER u think the seller will explain further?
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fantasy1989	Sep 8 2008, 09:44 PM Return to original view \| Post #8
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,707 posts Joined: May 2008	lol...really missing jor ..... QUOTE Last Active 5th September 2008 - 05:11 PM
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fantasy1989	Sep 12 2008, 07:57 PM Return to original view \| Post #9
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,707 posts Joined: May 2008	QUOTE(ongbs @ Sep 12 2008, 06:59 PM) hehe thx bro, nothing much i can do now as TS MIA liau.... TS really lose in space == TS where r u?
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