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metsatsu
post Dec 26 2008, 10:43 PM

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Bro hengmy. Mind to share ur bios setting? Though i know p45 has a higher fsb oc limit compare x38. But just wanna know, did u tweak anything else that enable u to oc higher other than up'ing all the voltages?
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post Dec 26 2008, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Dec 26 2008, 10:43 PM)
Bro hengmy. Mind to share ur bios setting? Though i know p45 has a higher fsb oc limit compare x38. But just wanna know, did u tweak anything else that enable u to oc higher other than up'ing all the voltages?
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i have ady share before, mayb that thread hard to capture eye hmm.gif

here is the template for q9450 500 fsb stable on GA-EP45-UD3P

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post Dec 26 2008, 11:54 PM

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Cool thx alot! But too bad now in outstation. And using gprs to surf lyn. Will give my bios another tweak when i get back home. But i think in ur case, u got a good chip and good mobo combo. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 27 2008, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Dec 26 2008, 11:54 PM)
Cool thx alot! But too bad now in outstation. And using gprs to surf lyn. Will give my bios another tweak when i get back home. But i think in ur case, u got a good chip and good mobo combo. thumbup.gif
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but yours is ady in 3.75ghz, 4ghz should not be a problem, coz your got +0.5 multiplier wub.gif
but as far as i seen, this board clock the 45nm quad the best thumbup.gif
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post Dec 27 2008, 01:00 AM

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Nah. The problem with x38 is that it has a rather low fsb oc limit. If u google gigabyte x38 tomshardware, u will find that its conclusion of the gigabyte x38 isnt very good
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post Dec 27 2008, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Dec 26 2008, 10:19 PM)
i use 63% for the gtl ref, 67% is for 65nm i guess.
the dfi bios setting use number instead of the 0.00xx like other mobo use, so even can calculate also hard to determine in the number?
btw i tried clunk before but not allow me to get stable setting, but using 63% can get more stable setting smile.gif
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its not that hard actually to calculate
lets say 1.35v vtt = 1.310v (real)
so for GTL 1/2
(1.310 * 67%) / 0.00724
0.8777 / 0.00724 = 121.229xxxx
genapkan = 120 biggrin.gif

dunno right or not hehe

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post Dec 27 2008, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Dec 27 2008, 01:00 AM)
Nah. The problem with x38 is that it has a rather low fsb oc limit. If u google gigabyte x38 tomshardware, u will find that its conclusion of the gigabyte x38 isnt very good
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all x38 chips are not known to be FSB record setters, its a limitation on the chip itself. X48 is a different story, however dfi's X38 is a little better then the rest by a margin

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Dec 27 2008, 03:42 AM)
all x38 chips are not known to be FSB record setters, its a limitation on the chip itself. X48 is a different story, however dfi's X38 is a little better then the rest by a margin
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Agree on this but probably take a few hours to get thing stable,no? laugh.gif
Still remember 445FSB/4ghz on Quad,BSOD during SPI 1M,this is the result of not enough time to tweak sweat.gif

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post Dec 27 2008, 05:51 AM

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What vcore o? If low can enter Windows geng already laugh.gif
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post Dec 27 2008, 09:03 AM

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Sigh... Really hope that i can at least touch 3.8ghz without having to use some insane voltage sad.gif
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post Dec 27 2008, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(huzai @ Dec 27 2008, 03:16 AM)
its not that hard actually to calculate
lets say 1.35v vtt = 1.310v (real)
so for GTL 1/2
(1.310 * 67%) / 0.00724
0.8777 / 0.00724 = 121.229xxxx
genapkan = 120 biggrin.gif

dunno right or not hehe
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hmm, 0.877 is what thing ? hmm.gif
btw, i have found the clunk graph is not real, they seen like provide wrong real vtt value.
anantech provide correct real vtt value for dfi x48, however i have tried but still not work for quad sad.gif


Added on December 27, 2008, 11:51 am
QUOTE(metsatsu @ Dec 27 2008, 01:00 AM)
Nah. The problem with x38 is that it has a rather low fsb oc limit. If u google gigabyte x38 tomshardware, u will find that its conclusion of the gigabyte x38 isnt very good
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so the fsb limit on where for a quad on x38? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Dec 27 2008, 05:51 AM)
What vcore o? If low can enter Windows geng already laugh.gif
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1.5 or 1.6vcore if i recall
@heng,X38 wall is rather low but i have seen 6xxFSB on dual core from maximus extreme
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post Dec 27 2008, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Dec 27 2008, 11:51 AM)
hmm, 0.877 is what thing ? hmm.gif
btw, i have found the clunk graph is not real, they seen like provide wrong real vtt value.
anantech provide correct real vtt value for dfi x48, however i have tried but still not work for quad sad.gif


Added on December 27, 2008, 11:51 am
so the fsb limit on where for a quad on x38? hmm.gif
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nope, im using it without problem, 0.877 is 67% from real VTT (1.350 in bios, real vtt 1.310)
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/hardware/32....html#post12436
btw, running 440fsb at 1.25vtt 1.28vcore
Ibt passed, Prime 8 hours passed
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post Dec 27 2008, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Dec 27 2008, 11:51 AM)

so the fsb limit on where for a quad on x38? hmm.gif
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the limitation is on x38.
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post Dec 27 2008, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(huzai @ Dec 27 2008, 03:20 PM)
nope, im using it without problem, 0.877 is 67% from real VTT (1.350 in bios, real vtt 1.310)
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/hardware/32....html#post12436
btw, running 440fsb at 1.25vtt 1.28vcore
Ibt passed, Prime 8 hours passed
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nice result, i mean the table wont work well for 450 fsb..
about the 0.00724 in the formula there, this figure is?? hmm.gif
and for anantech, they measured diff real vtt from clunk for your board, dunno if i see wrong laugh.gif

QUOTE(metsatsu @ Dec 27 2008, 03:32 PM)
the limitation is on x38.
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ya, i know, but a quad can get what fsb on x38? 450??

QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Dec 27 2008, 12:55 PM)
1.5 or 1.6vcore if i recall
@heng,X38 wall is rather low but i have seen 6xxFSB on dual core from maximus extreme
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before my p5e manage to do 500 fsb stable only on a dualcore~

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post Dec 27 2008, 06:27 PM

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Yah bro. Roughly 440-450. So far i havent seen anyone with x38 mobo with quad can exceed that fsb limit, especially gigabyte x38...


Added on December 27, 2008, 6:44 pmHere's the link of tomshardware review

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Intel-X38-Gi...view-29644.html


Added on December 27, 2008, 6:45 pmHere's the link of tomshardware review

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Intel-X38-Gi...view-29644.html

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post Dec 27 2008, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Dec 27 2008, 04:22 PM)
nice result, i mean the table wont work well for 450 fsb..
about the 0.00724 in the formula there, this figure is?? hmm.gif
and for anantech, they measured diff real vtt from clunk for your board, dunno if i see wrong laugh.gif
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thanks! oh for 450fsb maybe you're right
0.00724v = 1 for GTL 1/2

you got the link for anandtech?
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post Dec 27 2008, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(huzai @ Dec 27 2008, 10:23 PM)
thanks! oh for 450fsb maybe you're right
0.00724v = 1 for GTL 1/2

you got the link for anandtech?
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here is the link
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3294&p=14
i feel the real vtt measure here more accurate, as it show same as H/W in bios thumbup.gif
i think u use this real vtt to calculate might give u a surprise? laugh.gif
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post Dec 30 2008, 04:16 AM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Dec 27 2008, 10:46 PM)
here is the link
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3294&p=14
i feel the real vtt measure here more accurate, as it show same as H/W in bios  thumbup.gif
i think u use this real vtt to calculate might give u a surprise?  laugh.gif
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thanks bro for the link, cannot boot to windows using anandtech gtl guide lol, its not suitable for me i think
haiya, is there any real calculation for this gtl setting for dfi board?
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post Dec 30 2008, 02:32 PM

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my quads at 3.4ghz ... same proccessor and motherboard with huzai T.T" , 425fsbx8= 3.4ghz at 3.12v (shown in cpu-z and bios reading) trying to get to 3.6ghz but so far seems to crash after 2-3 minits of stress test D:, with the following voltage settings

set the ram at 1:1 ratio

CPU Vidd: 1.4v
CPU Vidd Special Limit: Enable
CPU Vidd Special Limit Add: Auto
NB Core : 1.55v
SB Core/CPU PLL: 1.51v
FSB VTT: 1.45v
RAM VDIMM: 2v

GTL Ref Voltage Control : disabled (systems seems too be unstable if i enable this)
CPU GTL 1/2 Ref Volt : 113 (unchangeable since i disable voltage control)
CPU GLT 0/3 Ref Volt : 100 (same here)
North Bridge GTL Ref Volt : 100 (same here)



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