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Intel Q9xxx and Xeon 33x0 Family, Show the rest what Intel Quadies can do!

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hengmy	Dec 1 2008, 09:20 PM Return to original view \| Post #1
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	just burn in this processor, 1st time play with quad vtt more than 1.4 really will kill the processor? This post has been edited by hengmy: Dec 1 2008, 09:22 PM Attached thumbnail(s)
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hengmy	Dec 2 2008, 12:06 AM Return to original view \| Post #2
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(Silverfire @ Dec 1 2008, 10:38 PM) O... Nice stuff with stock vcore Wow, your PWM 49'C at idle? WOW, vNB 1.5v? vNB 1.3v or below should be enough. lol, not sure the vnb for quad, so simply pump to 1.5v lor.. pwm too hot?? Added on December 2, 2008, 12:07 am QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Dec 1 2008, 10:59 PM) try to make it lower than 1.4v lo... read at anandtech got the VTT article.... btw, u got this chip from zerohour? i pump to 1.35v only, dont dare go higher coz read the article before.. this is not from zerohour, not money to grab that time This post has been edited by hengmy: Dec 2 2008, 12:07 AM
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hengmy	Dec 2 2008, 01:31 AM Return to original view \| Post #3
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(Silverfire @ Dec 2 2008, 12:40 AM) Usually around 480FSB or below 1.3vNB enough. As for PWM, mine full load 46'C only(my PWM no heatsink 1). 1.4v cant boot into window, must use 1.5v.. dont know y it 49c, sometime noon will be 51c..
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hengmy	Dec 2 2008, 11:45 AM Return to original view \| Post #4
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Dec 2 2008, 09:09 AM) okay guys.. my 2nd day got my hand of this Quadie 9550.. no time to test and playing with bios.. just 1)change pci/pcie freq to 37.6 (burn my ex graphic card coz forgot about this setting) 2) set mem divider to 1:1 3) just try fsb 400..than 433 and lastly stop at this 443.9FSB other setting just leave to auto.. and guess what.. the bios just crank up the voltage to 1.520 volt o load.. and temp as show by OCCT go as high as 85C.. core temp show 76C. so which one show the actual value for the temp.. pls enlighten me ps: yeap.. i know i need another cooler for sure.. the vcore look like abit too high
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hengmy	Dec 2 2008, 04:13 PM Return to original view \| Post #5
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	@metsatsu can u share out your bios setting? thx alot
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hengmy	Dec 2 2008, 05:55 PM Return to original view \| Post #6
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Dec 2 2008, 04:21 PM) erm.. will try to take some shot from my bios.. and post here.. im still noob in OCing intel Quad..lots of thing to adjust.. me too noob in quad OCing, hope all sifu here can share out their stable OC bios setting, thx alot
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hengmy	Dec 2 2008, 07:44 PM Return to original view \| Post #7
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Dec 2 2008, 06:56 PM) actually imho OC settings cant really be shared tho cos each chip has different potential and the hardware pairing is also kinda different.... all that can be done is just share information on how to get stability imho... the rest have to try out and experiment urself liao yea, but just for references as vnb and vtt voltage will be similar i guess Added on December 2, 2008, 7:46 pm QUOTE(metsatsu @ Dec 2 2008, 07:39 PM) my setting in bios is as so: Vcore = 1.3375v FSB voltage = 1.3v (if default is 1.2v can't remember ) MCH voltage = 1.6v (if default is 1.5v can't remember also) PCIE voltage = +0.10v dunno what value and why wanna increase it, but just doing it for the sake of it. PCIE frequency = 101mhz FSB:DRAM ratio = 1:1 ram timing = 4-4-4-15 DDR2 voltage = 2.05v Loadline caliberation control = auto 436 x 8.5 = 3700mhz the rest i didn't touch but as tkh bro said, each mobo are different from another. this values which i used on my Gigabyte X38-DS5 can only be used as reference for other ppl. hope it helps in some way. and for those who think i can improve and correct. please share with me yah. thx so much bro btw, do u think my psu enough juice for my rig?? with q9450 Added on December 2, 2008, 7:46 pm QUOTE(hengmy @ Dec 2 2008, 07:44 PM) yea, but just for references as vnb and vtt voltage will be similar i guess Added on December 2, 2008, 7:46 pm thx so much bro btw, do u all think my psu enough juice for my rig?? with q9450 This post has been edited by hengmy: Dec 2 2008, 07:46 PM
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hengmy	Dec 2 2008, 08:11 PM Return to original view \| Post #8
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Dec 2 2008, 07:58 PM) actually different mobo, proc chip potential and ram settings will need different Vnb and Vtt.... regarding ur psu, i think its still ok ok cukup makan ba QUOTE(metsatsu @ Dec 2 2008, 08:09 PM) I like to play safe. and i seriously believe that a better PSU will enable higher oc for certain components (i can be wrong, but i'm just saying this based on my past experience). 460w should be just enough i guess, but if u plan to oc hard out on your new proc. u better look for around 500w+ yea, i feel the psu need to change also, 12v only 384w but lack of $$ now.. i think gonna use this as 24/7 first before i get a better psu This post has been edited by hengmy: Dec 2 2008, 08:45 PM Attached thumbnail(s)
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hengmy	Dec 4 2008, 10:42 PM Return to original view \| Post #9
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	finally get 3.5ghz 10 loops pass on IBT after tuning on the gtl ref dfi x48 lt is really tricky for quad overclocking anyone using these board pls share me the gtl ref for quad at 450fsb and higher, thx alot
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hengmy	Dec 5 2008, 09:03 PM Return to original view \| Post #10
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(metsatsu @ Dec 5 2008, 08:16 PM) wrong, it is the QUAD CORE which is tricky to overclok. after done some research for few days, this is the outcome i found. compared to gigabyte and asus, these board are easily boot up a quad core at 450fsb or more without tweaking in gtl ref, as for dfi x48 lt and ut version, if dont touch on gtl ref, u cant boot into window at all at 450fsb. after 400 fsb, gtl ref need to change to make it stable... or maybe i am wrong, just my psu not enuf juice ?
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hengmy	Dec 5 2008, 09:50 PM Return to original view \| Post #11
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	by increasing the vcore would not help at all to boot into window. from 1.1xv to 1.3v. after that i search online and ask around, then found that gtl is the key, after tweaking by referring to anandtech guide and try and error, finally can boot into window at 450x8 1.168v but i guess my psu will not able to handle it since it come out sound like to ask me change psu
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hengmy	Dec 9 2008, 08:21 PM Return to original view \| Post #12
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	-wrong section- Added on December 13, 2008, 12:57 amfinally clock my q9450 to 4ghz This post has been edited by hengmy: Dec 13 2008, 12:57 AM
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hengmy	Dec 26 2008, 07:33 PM Return to original view \| Post #13
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(huzai @ Dec 26 2008, 05:40 PM) Q9400 user reporting in(am I the only one using Q9400 in here? lol) managed to OC till 440FSB, vcore 1.280v IBT passed mobo : dfi lt x48 t2r screenshot.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « [attachmentid=733906] how much vtt u set? do u change the cpu ref and nb ref? or leave it auto?
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hengmy	Dec 26 2008, 07:58 PM Return to original view \| Post #14
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(huzai @ Dec 26 2008, 07:51 PM) here is my setting » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « CPU Feature Thermal Management Control: Disabled PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled CIE Function: Disabled Execute Disable Bit: Disabled Virtualization Technology: Disabled Core Multi-Processing: Enabled Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2 Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled CPU Clock Ratio: 8 Target CPU Clock: 3520 CPU Clock: 440 Boot Up Clock: Auto DRAM Speed: 400/800 Target DRAM Speed: 850 PCIE Clock: 100mhz PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled Voltage Settings CPU ViD Control: 1.26v CPU VID Special Add: Auto DRAM Voltage Control: 1.900v SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: Default NB Core Voltage: 1.50v CPU VTT Voltage: 1.25v Vcore Droop Control: Enabled Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong Host Slew Rate: Weak GTL REF Voltage Control: Enabled x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110 x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 105 x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 85 DRAM Timing Enhance Data transmitting: AUTO Enhance Addressing: AUTO T2 Dispatch: Enabled Clock Setting Fine Delay Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: AUTO DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: Current DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: Current Ch 1 Command fine delay: Current Ch 1 Control fine delay: Current Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: AUTO DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: Current DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: Current Ch 2 Command fine delay: Current Ch 2 Control fine delay: Current Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: Auto Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4 RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4 RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4 Precharge Delay (tRAS): 12 All Precharge to Act: AUTO REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): AUTO Read delay phase adjust: Enter Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0) Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0) Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto MCH ODT Latency: AUTO Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO I get great help from clunk's forum, also the template i use were from his website BTW, i ran OCCT before and I failed lol I'll try up the vtt and gtl later before i tried can stable at 1.31vtt This post has been edited by hengmy: Dec 26 2008, 08:02 PM Attached thumbnail(s)
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hengmy	Dec 26 2008, 08:07 PM Return to original view \| Post #15
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(huzai @ Dec 26 2008, 08:03 PM) 1.34vtt at 450fsb is it? ----------edited------------ oh ya, u added the screenshot lol, ic.. 1.34vtt quite high isnt it? i want to try 450, later dude its 1.31vtt, remenber wrong ady. 1.34 is for 500fsb @ my gigabyte board as long as lower than 1.4 is safe tho..
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hengmy	Dec 26 2008, 09:44 PM Return to original view \| Post #16
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	haha, i also tried go into 450fsb before, can ibt pass 5 loop, but freeze cant take SS. the mobo not limit at 440, but u need to tweak the GTL refs...
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hengmy	Dec 26 2008, 10:19 PM Return to original view \| Post #17
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(huzai @ Dec 26 2008, 09:50 PM) can go to 450fsb actually,but need alot of vcore, i rather keep vcore below 1.3 and vtt below 1.3 lol btw, about GTL refs, which guide that you follow? or you got your own calculation? lol Clunk's GTL guide for LT-UT X48 were 67% of VTT http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/hardware/32....html#post12436 And i calculated for GTL 1/2, GTL 0/3, NB GTL myself and i got this formula lol GTL 1/2 = (Real VTT * 67%) / 0.00724 GTL 0/3 = (Real VTT * 67%) / 0.0078 NB GTL = (Real VTT * 67%) / 0.0097 but you have to 'genapkan' those numbers to 3 digits lol dunno my calculation is right or not, pls advice thanks i use 63% for the gtl ref, 67% is for 65nm i guess. the dfi bios setting use number instead of the 0.00xx like other mobo use, so even can calculate also hard to determine in the number? btw i tried clunk before but not allow me to get stable setting, but using 63% can get more stable setting
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hengmy	Dec 26 2008, 11:12 PM Return to original view \| Post #18
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(metsatsu @ Dec 26 2008, 10:43 PM) Bro hengmy. Mind to share ur bios setting? Though i know p45 has a higher fsb oc limit compare x38. But just wanna know, did u tweak anything else that enable u to oc higher other than up'ing all the voltages? i have ady share before, mayb that thread hard to capture eye here is the template for q9450 500 fsb stable on GA-EP45-UD3P » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [Turbo] CPU Clock Ratio .......................: 8x Fine CPU Clock Ratio...................: .0 CPU Frequency .........................: 4000 Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control...................: [Enable] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ................: 500Mhz PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .............: 100 C.I.A.2 .................................: [Disabled] Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter] CPU Clock Drive.......................: 1000mv PCI Express Clock Drive...............: 1000mv CPU Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50ps MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50ps DRAM Performance Control Performance Enhance..................: [STANDARD] (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [400] System Memory Multiplier ............: 2.00d Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1000 DRAM Timing Selectable ..............: [manual] Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time........................5 tRCD ...................................5 tRP'....................................5 tRAS....................................15 Advanced Timing Control tRRD..........................................:auto tWTR..........................................:auto tWR...........................................:auto tRFC..........................................:auto tRTP..........................................:auto Command Rate (CMD) ...........................:2 Driving Strength Profiles Driving Strength Channel A Static tRead Value.....................:9 tRD Phase0 Adjustment..................:auto tRD Phase1 Adjustment..................:auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:auto Trd2rd(Different Rank).................:auto Twr2wr(Different Rank).................:auto Twr2rd(Different Rank).................:auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).................:auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:auto Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:auto Channel B Static tRead Value.....................:9 tRD Phase0 Adjustment..................:auto tRD Phase1 Adjustment..................:auto tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:auto tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:auto Trd2rd(Different Rank).................:auto Twr2wr(Different Rank).................:auto Twr2rd(Different Rank).................:auto Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).................:auto Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:auto Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:auto Motherboard Voltage Control CPU Load-line Calibration [Enable] CPU Vcore......................... : 1.33125v - cpu dependent CPU Termination…....1.200v...........: 1.34 CPU PLL............ 1.500v...........: 1.61 CPU Referen.........0.760v...........: 0.845 MCH/ICH MCH Core..............1.100v............: 1.500v MCH Reference.........0.760.............: auto MCH/DRAM Ref..........0.900V............: 1.040v ICH I/O...............1.500V............: normal ICH Core..............1.100V............: normal DRAM DRAM Voltage ............1.000v............: 2.080v - ram dependent DRAM Termination.........0.900V............: 1.040v Channel A Reference......0.900V............: 1.040v Channel B Reference......0.900V............: 1.040v Advanced Settings Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled] No-Execute Memory Protect.................: [Disabled] CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...................: [Disabled] C2/C2E State Support......................: [Disabled] x C4/C4E State Support....................: [Disabled] CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...............: [Disabled] CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled] Virtualization Technology.................: [Disabled]
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hengmy	Dec 27 2008, 12:02 AM Return to original view \| Post #19
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(metsatsu @ Dec 26 2008, 11:54 PM) Cool thx alot! But too bad now in outstation. And using gprs to surf lyn. Will give my bios another tweak when i get back home. But i think in ur case, u got a good chip and good mobo combo. but yours is ady in 3.75ghz, 4ghz should not be a problem, coz your got +0.5 multiplier but as far as i seen, this board clock the 45nm quad the best
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hengmy	Dec 27 2008, 11:51 AM Return to original view \| Post #20
Regular Senior Member 1,991 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Seri Kembangan	QUOTE(huzai @ Dec 27 2008, 03:16 AM) its not that hard actually to calculate lets say 1.35v vtt = 1.310v (real) so for GTL 1/2 (1.310 * 67%) / 0.00724 0.8777 / 0.00724 = 121.229xxxx genapkan = 120 dunno right or not hehe hmm, 0.877 is what thing ? btw, i have found the clunk graph is not real, they seen like provide wrong real vtt value. anantech provide correct real vtt value for dfi x48, however i have tried but still not work for quad Added on December 27, 2008, 11:51 am QUOTE(metsatsu @ Dec 27 2008, 01:00 AM) Nah. The problem with x38 is that it has a rather low fsb oc limit. If u google gigabyte x38 tomshardware, u will find that its conclusion of the gigabyte x38 isnt very good so the fsb limit on where for a quad on x38? This post has been edited by hengmy: Dec 27 2008, 11:52 AM
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