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 D40/x/D60 Thread V4, The saga continues...

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Darkcursed
post Sep 18 2008, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Sep 18 2008, 10:01 AM)
where u heard it hmm.gif
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nikonrumor.com tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2008, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Sep 18 2008, 09:10 AM)
Tried to charge my camera battery today and found out that I misplaced it somewhere. Must've lost it during the trip overseas...  sad.gif

For some reason I have the charger cord but not the charger body itself. Just altogether weird. Anyone knows where I can find some 2nd hand or cheap chargers around? D40's been in the market for a long time... these things should be in ample supply.
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Buy over my D40, I bundle the charger for you tongue.gif

QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Sep 18 2008, 10:01 AM)
where u heard it hmm.gif
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Nikon Rumours website I believe.
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post Sep 18 2008, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Darkcursed @ Sep 18 2008, 09:55 AM)
ebernie ! hmm,wanna check with you where did you purchase your sigma 30mm?interested with this lens and what it can do. but kinda worry on it's performance,build. cry.gif

im planning to get a prime lens,interested with sigma because at 30mm,is a creative point where u can actually did more than 50mm prime.i wanna wait for the all new nikkor AF-S 50mm f1.4 price before making any decision.

If is darn expensive,i rather go for sigma.I wonder did shops like YL or J-one does sell it locally,my last visit to j-one i check with the tauke and he say it must be order,been checking the internet some user actually buy it from ebay hk for less than rm1500 include shipping fees.
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I bought it by scurrying around in 2nd hand forums (yes, it's 2nd hand). Build is good, much better than the nikkor 50mm f1.8 or f1.4. Totally sealed lens with no moving parts. It's also all metal, and is heavier than your regular prime. 62mm diameter so it looks mightily large on your camera. When I bought it, I brought along a laptop and printed a focusing chart to check for focus errors. Shot at f1.4 - f2 and the lens is OK so I bought it smile.gif

Performance wise, as long as there's no focusing errors it's a darn handy lens. It's best at f1.8 and above. At f1.4 it is *slightly* soft but still a very good lens. Don't hesitate to shoot wide open, just make sure you focus correctly. At f1.4, you can shoot without flash in most situations, even at night.

P/S: most lens (dare I say all? Maybe except the old Nikkor 35mm f2) is softer wide-open than stopped down.

Also, after using this lens, I realize that it's no replacement for a 50mm. 50mm is very suited as a short portrait lens (plus at f1.x, you get good bokeh). 85mm too (but a tad long-ish for me though). So no doubt I'm now hunting for an el-cheapo 50mm f1.8 as a portrait lens.

Just a shout out too - anyone with a 70-210 f4 AF (not e-series) do contact me. I want a budget telephoto with constant aperture.

This post has been edited by ebernie: Sep 18 2008, 10:52 AM
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post Sep 18 2008, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 18 2008, 10:04 AM)
Buy over my D40, I bundle the charger for you tongue.gif
Nikon Rumours website I believe.
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Lol... I also wanna get rid of the D40X le... buy yours pulak... 2x D40 doesn't make a D80 ok. Similarly 8x D40 doesn't make a D300 tongue.gif

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post Sep 18 2008, 12:47 PM

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D40 + D40 = D80 laugh.gif
nice maths

D40 X 7.5 sets = D300
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post Sep 18 2008, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Darkcursed @ Sep 18 2008, 09:55 AM)
ebernie ! hmm,wanna check with you where did you purchase your sigma 30mm?interested with this lens and what it can do. but kinda worry on it's performance,build. cry.gif

im planning to get a prime lens,interested with sigma because at 30mm,is a creative point where u can actually did more than 50mm prime.i wanna wait for the all new nikkor AF-S 50mm f1.4 price before making any decision.

If is darn expensive,i rather go for sigma.I wonder did shops like YL or J-one does sell it locally,my last visit to j-one i check with the tauke and he say it must be order,been checking the internet some user actually buy it from ebay hk for less than rm1500 include shipping fees.
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Sigma 30mm cost RM 1,350 at Penang smile.gif

QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 18 2008, 10:48 AM)
I bought it by scurrying around in 2nd hand forums (yes, it's 2nd hand). Build is good, much better than the nikkor 50mm f1.8 or f1.4. Totally sealed lens with no moving parts. It's also all metal, and is heavier than your regular prime. 62mm diameter so it looks mightily large on your camera. When I bought it, I brought along a laptop and printed a focusing chart to check for focus errors. Shot at f1.4 - f2 and the lens is OK so I bought it smile.gif

Performance wise, as long as there's no focusing errors it's a darn handy lens. It's best at f1.8 and above. At f1.4 it is *slightly* soft but still a very good lens. Don't hesitate to shoot wide open, just make sure you focus correctly. At f1.4, you can shoot without flash in most situations, even at night.

P/S: most lens (dare I say all? Maybe except the old Nikkor 35mm f2) is softer wide-open than stopped down.

Also, after using this lens, I realize that it's no replacement for a 50mm. 50mm is very suited as a short portrait lens (plus at f1.x, you get good bokeh). 85mm too (but a tad long-ish for me though). So no doubt I'm now hunting for an el-cheapo 50mm f1.8 as a portrait lens.

Just a shout out too - anyone with a 70-210 f4 AF (not e-series) do contact me. I want a budget telephoto with constant aperture.
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@ bold : 70-200 VR sharp @ wide open tongue.gif but F4 even sharper tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2008, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 17 2008, 11:38 PM)
How about 70-200 VR ?
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if i am not mistaken, it's the same. 66,500 baht.

the 85mm f1.8 is rm 1400 and 1.4 is rm 3700.

bleh, everything is more expensive.

d3 is approx rm 16,700.

and i met manit today. one of my idol. woohoo!
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post Sep 18 2008, 02:24 PM

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66,500 baht is expensive rclxub.gif
I got the price RM 5,900 only.

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post Sep 18 2008, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 18 2008, 01:55 PM)
Sigma 30mm cost RM 1,350 at Penang smile.gif
@ bold : 70-200 VR sharp @ wide open tongue.gif but F4 even sharper tongue.gif
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You just said it yourself - the 70-200VR is softer wide open than stopped down biggrin.gif
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post Sep 18 2008, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 18 2008, 03:31 PM)
You just said it yourself - the 70-200VR is softer wide open than stopped down biggrin.gif
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What I mean is 70-200 @ 200mm with f2.8 is still sharp but at F4 lagi lagi lagi sharp. Means f2.8 of 70-200 isn't soft at all tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2008, 05:52 PM

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lol... ebernie said it was softer wide open than stopped down..you are just proving his statement lol...
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post Sep 18 2008, 06:17 PM

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Seriously la sleep.gif
70-200 is sharp at wide open sleep.gif
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post Sep 18 2008, 06:20 PM

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ala apa sharp or sharper nih tongue.gif sharp is sharp.

The 70-200mm is sharp wide open and so is the 24-70mm. I believe the 14-24mm also sharp wide open. Holy trinity ftw! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 18 2008, 07:34 PM

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yo bro orenzai, pls add me into d60 user list!!!

jt bought at j-one...
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post Sep 18 2008, 09:33 PM

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i know its sharp...the world knows its sharp...but at f2.8, it is LESS sharper THAN f4...thats all it is...so its sharper at f2.8 and sharpest at f4 tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2008, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 18 2008, 09:33 PM)
i know its sharp...the world knows its sharp...but at f2.8, it is LESS sharper THAN f4...thats all it is...so its sharper at f2.8 and sharpest at f4 tongue.gif
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so it's not soft?
then why do u keep saying it is soft?
if a lenses is sharp...it is sharp...
it doesnt mean that if it is sharper at f4...it is soft at f2.8....

btw....
do u even know wat u r talking about?
have u even tried the trinity....to simply say it's soft wide open?
not ALL lenses are soft wide open....
ONLY THE CHEAP ONES ARE!
especially third party e.g. sigma,tamron,etc.
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post Sep 18 2008, 10:20 PM

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doh.gif janganlah tembak sebelum semak... you misunderstood me already lar smile.gif

okok let me use other examples... i say a BMW which costs 500k is cheaper than a mercedese tat cost 600k... but that doesnt mean that the BMW is cheap right? it is just cheaper than the merc but still very expensive... hehe... get what i mean? smile.gif


Added on September 18, 2008, 10:21 pmoh and you said that not all lenses are softer at wide open then nvm lo...coz i was just trying to interpret what ebernie is saying lar smile.gif

This post has been edited by orenzai: Sep 18 2008, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 18 2008, 10:20 PM)
doh.gif janganlah tembak sebelum semak...
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Haha, gotta say I love this statement Oren! rclxms.gif 1st time I've ever heard it too. Oh and btw, pls add me to the D40 user's list? Been here for quite awhile already biggrin.gif
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post Sep 18 2008, 11:16 PM

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added you in the list..that line learnt from the recent debate that was aired on ntv7 about the land scam thingey tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2008, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 18 2008, 01:55 PM)
Sigma 30mm cost RM 1,350 at Penang smile.gif
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at vladamir's place?
i might buy 1 when i balik penang brows.gif

i wonder does anyone know kl which shop sells it? im actually concern about the warranty issue here,would like a shop really provide a decent after-sales service smile.gif

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