hi Y.C.,
When you said your LED went dead, dead as in fused/burn out?
1K should more than sufficient(based on calculation)
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Oct 24 2008, 02:23 AM
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hi Y.C.,
When you said your LED went dead, dead as in fused/burn out? 1K should more than sufficient(based on calculation) |
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Oct 24 2008, 11:22 AM
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Oct 24 2008, 02:02 PM
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Oct 24 2008, 02:11 PM
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Y.C.,
I have a feeling that 1K is too low, so I took a look at my LED, a clear blue which should be having the same current requirements with WHITE LED (I have tested). I am using a 10K resistor, 1/4W (brown,black,orange) as the current limiter. It's a balance between dim and too bright as I do not want it to be a glaring distraction at night I believe it should work in your set up too, plus minus a few K if you wish to adjust the brightness... Hope this helps in time for tomorrow's session! |
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Oct 24 2008, 03:46 PM
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Y.C.,
Not at all. I have a few spares LEDs(blue, white, orange too) and several values of current limiting resistors. If you need any, just give me a 'holler' Yes those blue LEDs are kinda expensive.. the cheapest I got was RM1.30 Why 10K? Good question! I blew 2 LEDs before I got it right.. I am definitely coming.. QUOTE(Y.C. @ Oct 24 2008, 03:03 PM) .... Jazzy, thank you so much for sharing your configuration on the LED bulb with me. I had originally wanted to install a faint blue bulb to my T-amp but some shops in JP ran out of stock so I bought a faint green for a mere 30 sen instead. Subsequently when new stocks arrived, I was told that blue coloured bulb is more expensive at RM1.50 each so I held back. I did not know the amperage of the bulb and was told the smallest size is of 3V and I shall need 1K ohm resistor so I duly picked one up for 10 sen. I wired up the LED bulb parallel to my T-amp board without use of any fuse to it. Out of curiosity, if the amperage of bulb is 20mA and from the online calculator provided by bsl last night, the answer obtained is 450 ohm and when rounded to its nearest value of 470 ohm or for that matter 1K ohm is already sufficient, so why 10K ohm? Unless my LED bulb is actually of 100mA/200mA. But I will buy a 10K ohm resistor and new faint blue (I also do not want it to be too bright) LED bulb to try out. ...... Guys, kindly do response by indicating whether you are coming or otherwise so could plan accordingly. |
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Oct 24 2008, 05:04 PM
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Once or twice I do suffer too with regards to 'quality' issues.. that's why I sometimes buy stuffs from JP more than one in quantity eventhough I need only one.. just incase
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Oct 24 2008, 05:52 PM
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Y.C.,
You're most welcome. Get extra for 'spares' just in case.. Yes.. Will bring my 100K passive. It's a 10K actually but a quick swap with a 100K pot is no big deal.. QUOTE(Y.C. @ Oct 24 2008, 05:27 PM) Jazzy, TQVM the offer but I will pick up the LED bulbs from JP as I also need the 10K ohm resistor. You are bringing along your 100K ohm passive pre-amp to our session? So far, the confirmed attendees are Jazzy, March, Junchoon, Y.C., Y.C.'s colleague, Xtorm (he has some family matter to attend to but will try to come). As for the rests, no feedback yet. |
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Oct 24 2008, 11:07 PM
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Friday night.. too quiet lah!
Calculation wise, there's nothing wrong with it.. putting it to work.. well we know the story |
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Oct 25 2008, 01:17 AM
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Y.C.,
Yes I know. I actually measured the voltage across the LED, which reads 2.8VDC! Which means that the current limiting/voltage drop resistor is CORRECT! Why doesn't the formula reflect this? In my setup, using the formula; with 13.4VDC supply voltage and 2.8V LED forward voltage, the LED forward current is 1mA! I think we may have missed something.. I have been doing some reading, found something but not conclusive.. needs further 'digging'.. Anyway, just completed re-assembling a 100K 'passive' preamp.. finished testing and it sounded 'not bad' I'd say! 14 hours to go! QUOTE(Y.C. @ Oct 25 2008, 12:13 AM) |
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Oct 25 2008, 07:56 AM
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I guess this is the price you pay for 'cheap' things... although they are really not that cheap!
I use my variable voltage PSU and a bunch of resistors to get the required/correct current limiting resistors.. Again, a 1mA forward current for my blue LED? |
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That would be the only logical answer to your(our) LEDs issues.
1K would be more than suffice.. 470 Ohm being the 'normal' series resistor. Having that in mind, what about other semiconductors that we bought from JP? Transistors, ICs what nots..? Great! few hours to go.. I'll be bringing in my Junior.. Catch you guys later. QUOTE(Y.C. @ Oct 25 2008, 12:00 PM) At this juncture, it appears that the quality issue of JP LEDs is the most probable reason for calculation to be out. A 1K resistor should have been a correct value for use with 1 single LED. We need to observe correct polarity during connection - the resistor must be connected to the anode (+ve side) and not the cathode (-ve side) of the LED. Okay folks, our T-amp t/t session is ON from 15.00 - 18.00 hours TODAY. |
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Easy for you to say!
Yes. I have more than once bought a few 'look like the real thing'.. for obvious reasons they don't last that long.. or circuits don't actually work like they're supposed to.. If it's way too 'cheap' then, it's a sign... Would it be safe then, to get 'everything' from Farnell or RS? Have a great weekend bsl.. yes we know, you're gonna be busy... QUOTE(bsl555 @ Oct 25 2008, 12:48 PM) |
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Good report Bro March.
Thanks for the usage of your superb HB2 and the stands.. Too bad you missed one of the best 'mee goreng mamak' in SJ Yes. Many thanks to Y.C for the venue, drinks n 'makan' and hospitality.. Good news is, 'someone' already agreeable to use his place for the next T-Amp TT-Session! Waiting for Y.C to say something.. This post has been edited by jazzy939: Oct 26 2008, 01:34 PM |
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Oct 26 2008, 01:36 PM
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Never had such a problem. Are you sure it is not originated from your source?
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Hi folks!
I was out still celebrating raya.. just got back though.. Yes I did took a photo (one) and here it is, the set-up of the equipments.. Should have taken more but.. we were so engrossed with the music and all, 3 hours (like bro March was saying)seems like minutes.. too short eh folks? wui, No progress yet on my pre-amp.. waiting for 'something' We all know that the stock T-Amp is a little bit bass shy.. by changing the input caps and a voltage increase from the usual 12VDC should improve, however it is quite speaker dependant also! The best bass ever I got was from the EPCOS's 10uF input caps.. mysghooi however is currently holding the record of 22.2uF! junchoon, I could make your 'RCA jack' converter in no time The built in sub on your boombox can be disabled as required with some 'minor' mod. bro March's idea is also very 'interesting' and viable too.. I have to peek inside your 'Virgin's boomtube' ler.. As from me.. our first T-Amp TT Session was a great success! We can now see how a 'tiny' little amp can be tuned and drive speakers like HB2 with great ease and how musical it was.. even with tunes that we are not familiar with, we were soon flowing with the beat.. someone mentioned Krell? Lai's T-Amp with the ERO's input caps and the Pana power caps.. I would totally agree! The female voices was really seductive Syrupy eh Y.C? I can imagine how Ms. Krall voice would be! Not forgetting the great lil' Q-Acoustics which was (to me) excellent with the mids and highs.. if partnered/complimented with a proper sub, a full range speaker system would already in place! Well.. are we ON or OFF for tomorrow's session? Too soon, no? This post has been edited by jazzy939: Oct 26 2008, 11:32 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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wui,
Here it is.. quite simple the circuit is.. The components are: R1: 270R R2: Carbon preset potentiometer C1: 100nF C2: 1uF tantalum LM317T Voltage regulator Heatsink PCB board QUOTE(wui223 @ Oct 27 2008, 12:21 AM) |
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ongbs,
This was intentionally done to make you salivate.. Handsome faces? I do not want to risk corrupting my memory card! Honestly I should have taken the 'group' photo.. like I said, we were fully occupied.. next time maybe.. Sorry to disappoint you... QUOTE(ongbs @ Oct 27 2008, 12:43 AM) wow...congrat to all you lucky guys that able to meet up This post has been edited by jazzy939: Oct 27 2008, 01:03 AMMe only drolling here and reading this thread for the review and progress of your TT Jazzy, beside equipments you miss out those handsome faces huh? |
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wui,
There's always more than one variations to a basic circuit. The second link, is using a 22000uF cap.. good luck in getting those.. Good work in getting the 13.44 volts! It is more than sufficient to juice up the output especially the bass...! CDP? I think junchoon have a decent CDP.. Just bring whatever things that you want to.. surely junchoon have enough 'rooms' to accommodate.. QUOTE(wui223 @ Oct 27 2008, 01:55 AM) Thanks bro jazzy. in fact i 'tak sempat' wait for ur reply and i found these: This post has been edited by jazzy939: Oct 27 2008, 07:40 AMhttp://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/B...wden/page12.htm http://www.cpemma.co.uk/317calc.html I use 100R and 1k for R1 and R2. I measure 13.44V, i guess it's fine. Now singing, hope it wont die prematurely. Added on October 27, 2008, 2:15 amBtw, who will bring CDP and speakers for the meeting? i think i will bring my t-amp and a few CDs. as low profile as possible, else my mom will question alot. |
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