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DIY T-Amp user/diyer come here :), TA2024 complete build board diy

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jazzy939
post Nov 13 2008, 11:18 AM

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Looks like it is! thumbup.gif

So you're using the same SMPS that I am using, right? Excellent piece of hardware with 4.2A ready on tap! brows.gif
Good work Lai! biggrin.gif

I agree, as if the SMPS and the T-Amp was meant for each other!

Like the pix bro.. any close up shots? wink.gif

Anyway,
I found a super duper CD mechanism that is now a CD transport feeding my pre-amp buffer, T-Amp via a DAC. So far, results has been encouraging. Will reveal more pending final audition and conclusion.
Super duper here means it's 'dirt cheap' and GOOD! rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(Y.C. @ Nov 13 2008, 11:08 AM)
I’d say this thread is very alive.

A quick update from my end here: Since I have 2 T-amps but only 1 computer-notebook-style SMPS, I need to get another and had originally wanted to spend RM33 for a similar unit. However, Lai convinced and bought for me a Meanwell S-50-12 SMPS instead. The difference in sonic quality is very substantial and the additional RM22 spent is well-worth it.

Coincidentally, size (width and depth) of the Meanwell SMPS is identical to casing of my 1st T-amp and looks very much the PSU specially made for my T-amp.

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post Nov 13 2008, 03:22 PM

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Mean Well 12VDC 4.2A. RM55
I believe Y.C is using it too besides mysghooi and myself.

Get it from the shop next to NIXIE, Jalan Landak off Jalan Pasar KL. Sorry, can never remember the shop name! tongue.gif

QUOTE(Monkey King @ Nov 13 2008, 02:24 PM)

oh yeah, anyone can recommend me a good SMPS for this T-amp

prefer a ready build ones.... no time to DIY

my current ones are actually 12V DC 3A is my general purpose supply...
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post Nov 13 2008, 04:35 PM

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There is a GROUND connection at the SMPS. It's there for a purpose.. wink.gif
The mains ground wire is connected to this point.
Also the SMPS mounting is isolated from the metal casing. SAFETY FIRST!

QUOTE(Y.C. @ Nov 13 2008, 03:40 PM)
Name of shop = Online Components S/B

CYL, Thanks, I tested my unit with a test pen and found no current leakage on the cage. However, we do need to be careful with the screw-on connectors behind. For extra precaution, we could consider housing them in plastic casings.  smile.gif
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post Nov 14 2008, 09:05 PM

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Y.C.,
I am with you. The Class D(Class T incase of Tripath) amplification is of high efficiency design(90%, 10W @ 8 ohm)), infact 1A is already aplenty. And our 50W SMPS is way overboard! laugh.gif
But I have a reason for that. The same SMPS will also powers my pre-amp and also for bi-amping. wink.gif


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post Nov 15 2008, 07:10 AM

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Yes, surely he was and thank you for your timely reminders and pointers bsl! thumbup.gif

Y.C.,
you may have a point there, and the T-Amp will more likely to go into clipping and drain more power hence the emphasis on high efficiency speakers wink.gif

I do have a 'spare' car battery around somewhere.. may try it out and see(hear) if there would any difference in the sonics.. my gut feeling say it would be most probably in the low band/frequencies region... depend on your equipments also. I would say the choice on the type of PS is more on personal preferences and conveniences...

I have two more types of caps to try out.. so it's a good excuse to open up the casing and at the same time try out the car battery.. brows.gif
Will revert if I have the chance to do it, maybe tonite.. biggrin.gif




QUOTE(Y.C. @ Nov 15 2008, 02:19 AM)
I’m sure bsl meant well. He has always been stressing the importance of having adequate power supplies for phono preamps and now the T-amp.

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My take is, with the T-amp driving medium sensitivity loudspeakers of benign loads and music not being played to headbanging levels, 4.2A should be sufficient. I could be wrong though. Powering the T-amp with a car battery may be a costly affair and it (the battery) needs regular charging too.
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bro March,
That is a great idea! wink.gif
Yes, on the next TT Session, it would be interesting to know as such. We'll call it Battle Of The Lead Acids! tongue.gif
Anyway, I can barely remember something on a certain types(brand name) of lead acid batteries that sounded better than some other brands.. no not the batt sounded better, the equipment that is! laugh.gif (pagi2 punya joke) I think its a certain type/brand of SLAs that they were using for the T-Amp.. So, would there be differences between SLAs and CAR BATT? ohmy.gif

I am keen also to find out as my current buffer preamp is running off a 9V batt. It sounded 'clean' and 'crisp' and I am wondering,'what if the T-Amp is also batt powered?" hmm.gif
Bro March, you should compare the passive pre and this buffer pre. wink.gif

So, next best questions are, TT Session, when and where? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(March05 @ Nov 15 2008, 07:51 AM)
Looks like we may even delve into which car battery drives the T-amp better! It has been my intention all along to drive my T-amp off batteries ....anyway, I use batteries extensively to keep some equipment isolated from the unreliable mains. Because I want to stay portable with the TA2024, this is also a natural path for me to take (KISS!).

Perhaps at the next TT session, we can do a comparison, eh?
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wui,
That was reported by Y.C. some postings back. On my side the 'thumping' or inrush current sounds did subsides somewhat but I do not know if it has disappeared altogether as I am using a speaker relay/delay board. There were also some 'noises', mild ones from Junior's T-Amp but I don't think there are any now..
Have no idea how to help you/your board...

p/s
There is some 'noises' from Junior's T-Amp but only on the right channel.. shakehead.gif

QUOTE(wui223 @ Nov 15 2008, 06:00 PM)
Guys, i have a problem with tamp here. the power off thump noise still exist, it plays for uncounted hours ald. some of u said after the burn in, the thump noise will disappear, but its not the case for me. any idea?
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I was also tempted to get the ALPS for my buffer pre-amp but after considering the price against the total cost of the pre-amp.. I decided not to, as I am terribly happy with the current SQ.
Also I am trying to keep within the 'best bang per buck' category.. wink.gif

No doubt, there would be sonic differences with the ALPS, I just do not want to risk upsetting the sonic balance that I am having right now! laugh.gif

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post Nov 17 2008, 09:53 AM

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xtorm,
the need for V2 is paramount! laugh.gif

A suggestion,
in the FAQ, can we list all the input caps used by the members? Including it's influence to the sound? This should help the newbies. Also keeping the V2 of the thread kinda 'clean'... we do not want to repeat ourselves all over again.. sweat.gif
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Monkey King,
Good to know that! thumbup.gif
So, whats your next step/mod?
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post Nov 17 2008, 10:16 PM

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To ALPs or NOT to ALPs , that is the question! laugh.gif
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post Nov 17 2008, 10:43 PM

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The T-Amp works well with a passive 100K. My buffer pre-amp is also a 100K pot. The range of travel is well balanced in both case, I would not go any lower.. just my 2 sen.


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post Nov 18 2008, 01:49 AM

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If you're using a stepped attenuator or a pot as a passive amp.. wink.gif
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post Nov 18 2008, 10:22 AM

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cyl1000,
Some of the JP stuffs you can never know when it's gonna failed on you. Due to the 'cheapness' I normally bought extra 1-2 depending on the parts. For spare just in case! tongue.gif So it would be worthwhile then to fork out acquiring the real stuffs eventhough the price is 10X JP prices.. peace of mind for the next 10 years(?).. biggrin.gif

Bro, the super duper casing was bought by a friend in Bangkok and hand carried back to KL. Price? RM300. Don't ask me where he got it, as I have forgotten the place/website. I will try to find out though..


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I use a 'normal' 30A electrical cable for speaker output except the input uses shielded stereo cable.
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post Nov 19 2008, 08:41 PM

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gabanyayaya,
that binding posts probably not the same 'elcheapo' ones that you bought! wink.gif This one very sturdy! laugh.gif Mine also cheapo but better...
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post Nov 21 2008, 12:11 AM

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gabanyayaya,
I need a few pairs of those too for up n coming projects. Will keep a pair or two for you.. wink.gif Unless you want the 'gold' plated one like Y.C.'s which you know where to get, I am getting mine from this particular shop.. as the others are.. not good enough for me eventhough the price is similar, the quality is not. Such is JP's products... We all know that by now, right? biggrin.gif

I will only handover that buffer when I have a better replacement! Which is coming up next! laugh.gif



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