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jobneed
post May 29 2011, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(KC's @ May 29 2011, 09:56 AM)
hi bro

free to meet up & view what there is needed to be done

intention to train u do it yrself
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i hope i can do so... my schedule is packed from sunday to friday... only saturday is the free time for me rclxub.gif
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post May 30 2011, 08:43 AM

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Guys. how often can I clay my car? i know this has been asked before.
reason why I'm asking this again is because I have a car that's parked out 24/7 next to a busy main road. So there's a lot of pollution that bonds to the paint.

Every month when I wax my car, i'd have to use a cleaner wax first before the wax and the pads will surely turn charcoal black. It's mainly on the flat surface like the bonnet, roof and boot that's the problem areas where the doors and the bumpers are less of a problem.

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post May 30 2011, 09:15 AM

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did i missed the session? i've some serious headache with my ride... white is really tough...
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post May 30 2011, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(eddyann @ May 29 2011, 12:58 PM)
I'm willing to travel to KL just to have my self trained by the pro. KC, normally what's the charges for the training session? any schedule for training this June?
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yupp buddy

will keep u posted soon & in the midst of finalising ....every enthusiast encourage to come

QUOTE(jobneed @ May 29 2011, 05:29 PM)
i hope i can do so... my schedule is packed from sunday to friday... only saturday is the free time for me  rclxub.gif
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sure ///next sat will be great then

QUOTE(m|ng @ May 30 2011, 09:43 AM)
Guys. how often can I clay my car? i know this has been asked before.
reason why I'm asking this again is because I have a car that's parked out 24/7 next to a busy main road. So there's a lot of pollution that bonds to the paint.

Every month when I wax my car, i'd have to use a cleaner wax first before the wax and the pads will surely turn charcoal black. It's mainly on the flat surface like the bonnet, roof and boot that's the problem areas where the doors and the bumpers are less of a problem.
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bro clay only twice a year in regards where it is park
as it is aggressive if it is done wrongly - making sure you have enough lube

the best any owners can give their car is a weekly wash & a monthly wax- my car has been parking openly since 11 yrs ago - no prob when it is well protected

cleaner wax is not a prefect solution - cos most of it contain an element where u can clean light stains - petrol base - same time the wax on it dont really last, the blackish stains is the older residues oils...the roof & hood is the mostly affected area to sun & rain - where it is always contaminated where the side just slides down


imagine cleaner that can remove stain - can also remove wax ma- the reason it can becos of its cleaning power in it...


QUOTE(leng2 @ May 30 2011, 10:15 AM)
did i missed the session? i've some serious headache with my ride... white is really tough...
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no worries what are u facing?

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post May 30 2011, 01:48 PM

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@KC's
Can i know more information about the training? such as fees or lesson?
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post May 30 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(leng2 @ May 30 2011, 10:15 AM)
did i missed the session? i've some serious headache with my ride... white is really tough...
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no worries anytime u can catch up - we will be doing one soon


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QUOTE(jobneed @ May 30 2011, 02:48 PM)
@KC's
Can i know more information about the training? such as fees or lesson?
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i have not charge for all my classes - if i would have i will have lots of $$$$

its my passion buddy

come join me ya

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yongzhong
post May 30 2011, 09:33 PM

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Hi kc ,I'm new fish here,I oso like to do diy detailing my car,if time allow, can I join ur class ?

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post May 30 2011, 10:47 PM

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Bro KC will keep us updated soon on the training. but I'm not sure if there's a limit on how many pax are allowed during per session. Cant wait to learn correctly from the detailing guru. haha
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post May 31 2011, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(KC's @ May 30 2011, 01:34 PM)
no worries what are u facing?
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i'll try to snap some pics... hard to explain
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post May 31 2011, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(yongzhong @ May 30 2011, 10:33 PM)
Hi kc ,I'm new fish here,I oso like to do diy detailing my car,if time allow, can I join ur class ?
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welcome new fish - mr yongzhong to car detailing

in regardless of new or old - we must all learn to together - to take care of our investement

we all work & toil (labor with sweat & blood) - day in month out - splash more $$$$ in maintenance, road tax - insurance, parking, cuci kereta - shampoo - more sweat & blood for those who take care of their car

but one good news - you can detail, we can stop others whacking up our ride


learn the proper way - from the start (now is the best) wash - clay wax

will confirm the class soon

QUOTE(eddyann @ May 30 2011, 11:47 PM)
Bro KC will keep us updated soon on the training. but I'm not sure if there's a limit on how many pax are allowed during per session. Cant wait to learn correctly from the detailing guru. haha
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pls let me know-

QUOTE(leng2 @ May 31 2011, 10:24 AM)
i'll try to snap some pics... hard to explain
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pls buddy


Added on May 31, 2011, 3:09 pmCleaning the wheels
Is cleaning wheels important in car detailing

Imagine if we have an expensive set of specially flown in wheels on our car, we'll want to give those wheels the proper maintenance as they need to stay good & making their look last. a fully clean wheels will make them look like a showroom condition
Sometimes wheel cleaning is quite a chore and can be very dangerous. without damaging them or ourselves, and without spending all day on them. Wheel detailing can be an easiest part to do or it can be a nightmare as well. Needless to say our feeling if we have our wheel damaged by these harsh chemical or got hurt by one before. Many detailers have always been deathly afraid of wheel acids. They are harsh products which are dangerous to the wheel and to you if used incorrectly cos is it really ACID! with a picture of skull & cross bones on it back label. Its eats away items in its path

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a damaged wheels

Also if you have ever spent 20 minutes trying to get ONE wheel clean, it’s extremely frustrating. So how can we make wheel cleaning safe, yet fast and effective?

is it necessary to use of acid or harsh cleaner inorder to gets our wheels cleaned?????
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the reason why our  wheels damaged is “instant gratification”. Many detailers just want to spray a product on, and rinse it off, and expect to have wheels that look like new. This is a main reason for detailers to choose extremely harsh wheel cleaners and to barely dilute them. They figure the stronger the chemical, the better the wheels will come out. They also spray wheel cleaners on a very hot wheel. We all know that heated cleaning is better than cold cleaning, but in the case of wheels, a cool, wet wheel is what you need to begin with. The heat and dryness of a wheel will make the cleaner react far quicker and do its damage much faster. Also, because some detailers want to rush through the job, they spray “all 4 wheels” at once and let the product sit on them. This will also quickly lead to etched and damaged wheels. You need to be smart and realize this is not a good idea


Many wheel cleaner product are make of Hydrofluoric acid. This is one of the MOST dangerous form of acid in the makert. imagine just a 50% solution of Hydrofluoric acid can kill you if inhaled directly or is spilled on you. HF will only lightly burn your skin but the real problem comes later. It wants your bones! It seeks the calcium in your bones and in your blood! HF spilled on your skin may require calcium gluconate gel or an injection to replenish the calcium and ward off the effects those HF acid causes. Its calcium eating ability is why HF is a popular choice in concrete cleaners. and yet many car detailing shop (included road side car wash ) still using them


but as for me I rather choose safety.....quick & easily maintain

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ASBESTOS PRECAUTIONS The best way to avoid asbestos dust is not to create it. Never use compressed air or dry brushing for cleaning brake dust from brake
Article abstract from Brake pad box - Metal King inc


my magic portion again...the blue alien eggs juice wash

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The good news is maintaining yr precious wheels is fairly simple. You can ensure that our custom wheels stay looking good no matter how many miles they have on them by taking just 1/2 hour weekly.

with micro fibers & ONR
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after a quick wipe on wipe away
ta da
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the dirt collected by the MF

wheel nut cleaning with another wheel brushes
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Har stains & brake cakes on brake calliper cleaning with Power clean
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claying the outter area to pick up tar & road grim without using strong & abrasive cleaners....that may marr the clear coat of the rim

ta da
look at the 50/50%
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with onr....is it effective enough
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tools i need to detail the rims...surface preparations ..prior coating
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yongzhong
post May 31 2011, 11:36 PM

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Ok,I will keep ur update.
1 question ,I dunt hv a lot of tools, only turtul wax platinum ,and soft99 fusso coat mirror shine only,is it can join too?
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post Jun 1 2011, 11:09 AM

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hey KC...thanks for sharing how to detail the wheels part....i've been looking around for articles that specifically concentrate on the wheel but most only on overall car body. anyway i just wanna ask you....recently i did ask here as well bout how to maintain my rims which is white...and somehow i ended up getting mequire hot wheel cleaner....i have to say that it works fantastically and even restore my rims back to its original white color. what are your thoughts on this particular mequire product...?.....
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post Jun 2 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(KC's @ May 31 2011, 10:38 AM)
pls buddy
here's the headache... it's so stubborn that i couldn't get rid of it with those 2-in-1 shampoo...

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post Jun 2 2011, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(blacksunday @ Jun 1 2011, 12:09 PM)
hey KC...thanks for sharing how to detail the wheels part....i've been looking around for articles that specifically concentrate on the wheel but most only on overall car body. anyway i just wanna ask you....recently i did ask here as well bout how to maintain my rims which is white...and somehow i ended up getting mequire hot wheel cleaner....i have to say that it works fantastically and even restore my rims back to its original white color. what are your thoughts on this particular mequire product...?.....
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Good stuff, easy to buy but it is still acidic

Hot Rims Wheel Cleaner should NOT be used on polished aluminum, anodized aluminum wheel or uncoated magnesium wheels. or else ta da.....making sure u rinse off immediately

Make sure you know what the wheel is made out of or the coating that's on it before choosing a wheel cleaner, when in doubt pls call me

just be known
it contain - Phosphoric Acid - which they use as "rust remover" or "rust killer"
Hydroxy Acetic Acid use mainly in textile industry as a dyeing and tanning agent -but danger of it is - if inhale - Cough. Shortness of breath. Sore throat. if touches yr skin Redness. Pain. Serious skin burns. - esp eye (sharp pain & if ingested - Abdominal pain. Burning sensation. Shock or collapse. most of all is combustible.

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Personal precautions by megs:Ensure adequate ventilation. Keep people away from and upwind of spill/leak. Avoidcontact with skin, eyes and clothing.

Environmental precautions:Do not allow material to contaminate ground water system. Prevent further leakage or
spillage. Local authorities should be advised if significant spillages cannot be
contained.

Most important hazards:- Corrosive. Toxic if swallowed. Causes eye irritation. Servere skin irritant. This product
contains chemicals listed on Canada WHMIS.
as for me i just want to get my wheels clean - safe



QUOTE(leng2 @ Jun 2 2011, 01:50 AM)
here's the headache... it's so stubborn that i couldn't get rid of it with those 2-in-1 shampoo...

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eg like this

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magic brush
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tada
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my magic portion
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another
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tada
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to read more here http://thedetailers.blogspot.com/2010/11/c...electricty.html

OPC is the best multi purpose cleaner both safe for car clear coat paint(exterior) & same time for interior
so cost effective that - you can dilute to suits your need - clear coat safe - (so strong that it can degrease engine & so gentle - dilutes to clean leather)

best usage for removing stickers - bugs stains - birds dropping - wax residues - stains on plastic or vinyl

use neat or dilute 1:3 parts water for engine
dilute 1:3 or 1:5 parts water for interior - cleaning - leathers, vinyl, rubber plastic
dilute 1:5 or 1:8 parts water for exterior paint work - cleaning - best at removing bugs stains, rubber stains - wax residues on plastic, emblem cleaning

this is the only ultimate I ever need for car detailing - i never leave home to do any job without it

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Bro KC,

is it possible to reduce the orange peel or you might call it as a paint correction using ONLY compounding with wool+rotary? I dont have the ball yet to wet sand the whole car, but I have wet sand my headlamp and it feel good by watching the result.

some pics for those who dont know the orange peel (by the way my orange peel is NOT this bad like in the picture)

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I want to make it into this or even BETTER!!
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post Jun 3 2011, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Jun 2 2011, 11:33 PM)
Bro KC,

is it possible to reduce the orange peel or you might call it as a paint correction using ONLY compounding with wool+rotary? I dont have the ball yet to wet sand the whole car, but I have wet sand my headlamp and it feel good by watching the result.

some pics for those who dont know the orange peel (by the way my orange peel is NOT this bad like in the picture)

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I want to make it into this or even BETTER!!
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yes you can - all you need is time, enough time to master the rotary - cant wait to see your paint
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Just for knowledge, how long does it take to wetsand the whole car? hmm.gif
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post Jun 3 2011, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(KC's @ May 30 2011, 02:14 PM)
no worries anytime u can catch up - we will be doing one soon


Added on May 30, 2011, 2:15 pm
i have not charge for all my classes - if i would have i will have lots of $$$$

its my passion buddy

come join me ya
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Kc's this coming Saturday 4june? interested to join! give me location and date/time biggrin.gif
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post Jun 3 2011, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Jun 3 2011, 11:39 AM)
Kc's this coming Saturday 4june? interested to join! give me location and date/time  biggrin.gif
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Can I come and have a look see??? time and location biggrin.gif
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post Jun 3 2011, 05:10 PM

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wow car detailing looks hard for me... but wanted to learn it badly. saw few of picture of after and before waxing... BIG diff!!! how could you guys do it.. impressive

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