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blacksunday
post Jan 3 2011, 09:32 AM

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guys i need some help here......ive been trying to maintain my car paint for awhile now....ive been waxing, polishing, claying and recently got a mequire swirl x to get rid of the swirls. but the thing is that i still dont understand why haze is present esp when there is direct sunlight. is there something wrong with my cleaning process?

or could it be the swirls that is making the haze effect, cuz the mequire didnt really get rid totally but majority of it.
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post Jan 3 2011, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(m|ng @ Jan 3 2011, 08:25 PM)
If you are getting haze, could be because of a few factors (correct me if im wrong):
1. dirty/old/worn applicator pads
2. very soft paint?
3. Incorrect method of preparation (which pushes the contamination further into the paint)
Yea swirlX can be applied by hand. My friend is using by hand which gives favorable results.
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i think it could factor number 1 and 3. ok any advise for my current situation to get rid of the haze? im thinking of getting the car send out for plp to do an actual detailing like those car washing center that also polish and waxes service. would this be recommended? thanks for the feedback
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post Jan 3 2011, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(m|ng @ Jan 3 2011, 10:04 PM)
you can try using swirlX on 1 section of the car (again), see how it goes. If the swirls go off, then you can continue using swirlX. saves you some money by not getting another product. Im sure SwirlX is safe enough for multiple uses.
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ok bro will give it a try then...thanks again
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post Jan 12 2011, 03:40 PM

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any pic to share - give us a clue or idea if u could




ok i took some pic of the hazy staind but cant really capture it properly....but if you see from the pic espcially when the light is highly concentrate on that region you will like some sort of a light reflection.....let me know wat you think


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post Jan 12 2011, 03:45 PM

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post Jan 13 2011, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Jan 12 2011, 09:21 PM)
You got a nice big compound, dude. Mind if I come over to your house and do some detailing??? brows.gif
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haha dun be fool by the reflection.....its actually gud enuff for one person walk through around the car.....
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post Jan 13 2011, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(msk @ Jan 13 2011, 09:18 AM)
Ha ha.. seconded that tchtax rclxms.gif Blacksunday, tried looking at your pictures but cannot see the haze you mean unless your car have been polished before, then the funny light wave are holograms ie the products didn't have time to finish correctly. Another is if compounded before, there may be compounding haze that's needs a polishing pad to restore the gloss but don't seem in this case. Anyway, take care of our rides with good quality products to not instill swirls, that's key.

WTS: Premium Cobra/Meguiars http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1562657
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hey msk.....i think your explanation is as close as possible to what im facing.....neway my history so far with detailing is very simple diy....due to budget wise......usually will wash the car once a week...and from time to time...will give a wax and then few months later polish....and recently just a month ago...i bought mequire swirl x to remove the swirl...surprisingly it did get rid most of it...but again the sort like light wave holograms are present there...so you may be right that i didnt give it enough time to finish up correctly...so wat would be your advise, to polish it one more time and really let it buff up correctly or just send it to the shop and let them handle it?.....


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post Jan 13 2011, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Jan 13 2011, 02:10 PM)
a few questions:-

is this a 2nd hand car? or it has been sent for machine polish!or wash regularly by car wash, possible compound like agent use on the paint surface

hologam like visible slightly below the frame area.....
the Clear coat has some hazzy looking top

hope to hear from u

p/s when was the last time you change yr microfibers? using any sponges & mitts???
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nope this is not a second hand car...and its already 4 years old....it has never been machine polish before...most of the time i wash the car myself...so far through out the 4 years....i can honestly say i only sent to car wash center bout 5 times.....so far im using microfiber for wash polish and wax...each separate cloth...recently i just change for the polish and wax....but ive been using the washing one for bout 6 months now.... it could be my washing method which is not proper....or it could be my polishing and waxing that i didnt give enuff time for proper buffering....so wat do you think....


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QUOTE(msk @ Jan 13 2011, 12:00 PM)
Hmm hologram by hand?? I'm not sure as SwirlX is SMAT as usually holograms by machines using DAT (diminishing abrasives).. Another possibility touch wood is you're too agressive and the haze is onset of clearcoat failure but unlikely as SwirlX is quite mild compare with Ultimate compound. If send to shop, ensure reputable as it may just cause you heartache as they will give massive swirls to your car as their polishing pads won't be as clean as DIY enthusiast. Good luck.
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thanks for the advice bro....neway this hazzy has been present for awhile now even before i started using swirlX.....i still believe is has something to do with my polishing and waxing method....all these while ive been using....kit polish and wax...which it does the job but not as effective as all the sifu here that has been using are the better products....but i did read somewhere that some polishing and wax compound do leave some stains behind after using for sometimes.....im not sure how true this is

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post Apr 22 2011, 12:05 PM

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is there a way i can get rid of holograms by hand instead of rotary?..any products to recommend?

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post Apr 22 2011, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Apr 22 2011, 12:52 PM)
Optimum Polish or maybe Swirlx ?
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tried swirlx didnt really work.....took only like 50% of the swirls but hologram was still very visible...hmmmoptimum polish?...where can i get this...isnt this the on the bro KC always uses...
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post Apr 22 2011, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(capiche @ Apr 22 2011, 01:09 PM)
I will recommend UC. U can just skip SwirlX.. To me, is the most overrated Meguiar's product..

Use MF pad, cutting strength is far stronger than sponge pad.. smile.gif
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UC as in ultimate compound by meguires?....sorry noob...wats mf pad?
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post Apr 22 2011, 05:29 PM

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ok so i just went to get ultimate compound meguires..next nid to find time....smile.gif....well hope my lil experiment does bring me to somewhere...my only mission is to get rid of the holograms...one last question...do i need to clay first or i could just do right after a car wash?
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post Apr 23 2011, 05:02 PM

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Hey bro kc i pm'ed you
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post Apr 30 2011, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(capiche @ Apr 22 2011, 01:49 PM)
oops. sorry for the shortcut..  notworthy.gif

ya.. UC is Ultimate Compound by Meguiar's.. MF is microfibre pad.

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yo bro.....this UC is definitely DA bomb dude.....i finally manage to put it to test....and im definitely seeing huge changes...or at least improvement to the surface of the bonnet....it was effortless...

all i did was wash, clay and section by section UC.....i took a few pics under the sun by my camera was unable to capture the comparison...but all i can say is that this product definitely do what it said it was suppose to do....

each area i did like a few spins with a foam pad and thats it...not even a second time.....and all the holograms and swirls are gone...

well of course the results are still not as good as bro KC does with he's projects.....but it does get rid of all the annoying spider webs and holograms....to achieve dept and gloss...i still think BRO KC is the god.....cant wait for he's detailing workshop next week....
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post May 7 2011, 06:26 PM

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yea thanks KC for the very educational session today....sorry i had to run off unannounced cuz i had to attend an last min urgent matter as you were bz with the guys during the purchasing of the product...but i will be contacting you soon again as i didnt had the chance to get some stuff from you...thanks again...aprreciate
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post May 22 2011, 06:17 PM

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hey KC....whats the best ways to clean white rims?.....white rims are easily contacts with brake dust and dirt from external. Also i understand that white rims over the years will start to age and will turn yellow. is there any way to prevent this...are there any similar steps like detailing bodywork?
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post Jun 1 2011, 11:09 AM

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hey KC...thanks for sharing how to detail the wheels part....i've been looking around for articles that specifically concentrate on the wheel but most only on overall car body. anyway i just wanna ask you....recently i did ask here as well bout how to maintain my rims which is white...and somehow i ended up getting mequire hot wheel cleaner....i have to say that it works fantastically and even restore my rims back to its original white color. what are your thoughts on this particular mequire product...?.....
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post Dec 27 2012, 12:25 PM

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hey guys, what;s the best way to clean the windshield? ive got some idk what you call those, small lil dots everywhere/grims and even normal weekly wash doesnt get rid of it. it';; be very visible when the sun shines on it. i was thinking could clay bar get rid of those?
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post Dec 27 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Dec 27 2012, 01:02 PM)
Very tiny little white dots? I hope they're not sand chippings from fast highway driving. If they are then there's no cure exept sending to a glass specialist cuz you'd need cerium oxide and special felt pads to polish those off. I do long distance (balik kampung) frequently and have plenty of them on my front windscreen....have to live with it until I go for replacement.
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well im too sure at the moment but i really hope not. i will try to really spot on it to have a clearer look on it. i do travel but not as often as in like balik kampung. since new car until now which is like almost 6 yrs ive never really try to clean my windshield except when im washing the car. it might be also build up dirt/grims over the years. normal car shampoo doesnt get rid of it.

well i'try to clay bar it first to see what is the outcomes. what should i use for as lubricant during claying?
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post Dec 27 2012, 03:03 PM

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well as far as water as base of clay lubs, so far for my experience no problem. but then again this is on the car body not the windshield. Ive also tried using car shampoo as the base but i still find water which is more effective. the shampoo makes the surface to smooth at times the clay find it hard to have s proper grasp of the surface to remove the grims. wherelse on water based, its just nice to give the surface a little flow just enough for the clay to get the grims out. this just my personal opinion/experience

well guys thanks for the wonderful thoughts and suggestion, im goinna give my windshield a go this weekend and hopeful it turns out well.

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