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blacksunday
post Jan 13 2011, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Jan 13 2011, 02:10 PM)
a few questions:-

is this a 2nd hand car? or it has been sent for machine polish!or wash regularly by car wash, possible compound like agent use on the paint surface

hologam like visible slightly below the frame area.....
the Clear coat has some hazzy looking top

hope to hear from u

p/s when was the last time you change yr microfibers? using any sponges & mitts???
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nope this is not a second hand car...and its already 4 years old....it has never been machine polish before...most of the time i wash the car myself...so far through out the 4 years....i can honestly say i only sent to car wash center bout 5 times.....so far im using microfiber for wash polish and wax...each separate cloth...recently i just change for the polish and wax....but ive been using the washing one for bout 6 months now.... it could be my washing method which is not proper....or it could be my polishing and waxing that i didnt give enuff time for proper buffering....so wat do you think....


Added on January 13, 2011, 5:26 pm
QUOTE(msk @ Jan 13 2011, 12:00 PM)
Hmm hologram by hand?? I'm not sure as SwirlX is SMAT as usually holograms by machines using DAT (diminishing abrasives).. Another possibility touch wood is you're too agressive and the haze is onset of clearcoat failure but unlikely as SwirlX is quite mild compare with Ultimate compound. If send to shop, ensure reputable as it may just cause you heartache as they will give massive swirls to your car as their polishing pads won't be as clean as DIY enthusiast. Good luck.
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thanks for the advice bro....neway this hazzy has been present for awhile now even before i started using swirlX.....i still believe is has something to do with my polishing and waxing method....all these while ive been using....kit polish and wax...which it does the job but not as effective as all the sifu here that has been using are the better products....but i did read somewhere that some polishing and wax compound do leave some stains behind after using for sometimes.....im not sure how true this is

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post Jan 16 2011, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(blacksunday @ Jan 13 2011, 06:20 PM)
nope this is not a second hand car...and its already 4 years old....it has never been machine polish before...most of the time i wash the car myself...so far through out the 4 years....i can honestly say i only sent to car wash center bout 5 times.....so far im using microfiber for wash polish and wax...each separate cloth...recently i just change for the polish and wax....but ive been using the washing one for bout 6 months now.... it could be my washing method which is not proper....or it could be my polishing and waxing that i didnt give enuff time for proper buffering....so wat do you think....


Added on January 13, 2011, 5:26 pm
thanks for the advice bro....neway this hazzy has been present for awhile now even before i started using swirlX.....i still believe is has something to do with my polishing and waxing method....all these while ive been using....kit polish and wax...which it does the job but not as effective as all the sifu here that has been using are the better products....but i did read somewhere that some polishing and wax compound do leave some stains behind after using for sometimes.....im not sure how true this is
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its a good time to start organising another hard core hands on detailing session
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post Jan 16 2011, 03:37 PM

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a 5years old+- car that never clay b4 but got polish n wax at least once a year(with OTC product,not Meg) recently tried Meg clay,but canot pick up anything..wad's the possible reason? no contaminant on paint surface?
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post Jan 17 2011, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(michaelyii1988 @ Jan 16 2011, 04:37 PM)
a 5years old+- car that never clay b4 but got polish n wax at least once a year(with OTC product,not Meg) recently tried Meg clay,but canot pick up anything..wad's the possible reason? no contaminant on paint surface?
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no worrries
the haziness cause by many reason - it is high time to organised a hands on detailing TT for LYN

set a date & get yr car detail
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post Jan 17 2011, 01:03 PM

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Just asking, for starting detailing what item must have? Kinda boring at home and thinking to spend a time for detailing. Got 1 car, Myvi Pearl White color seems like a dull....and Wira Blue color got scratches on top and bonnet maybe claw by cats.
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Jan 17 2011, 02:03 PM)
Just asking, for starting detailing what item must have? Kinda boring at home and thinking to spend a time for detailing. Got 1 car, Myvi Pearl White color seems like a dull....and Wira Blue color got scratches on top and bonnet maybe claw by cats.
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start with a good washing


the most humble but most damaging begins

washing yr car in 20 minutes ring your rinsing just with 3 microfibers http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1720414&hl=onr
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post Jan 17 2011, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Jan 17 2011, 04:14 PM)
start with a good washing


the most humble but most damaging begins

washing yr car in 20 minutes ring your rinsing just with  3 microfibers https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1720414&hl=onr
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RM80 including 3 pcs cloth microfiber?
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post Jan 18 2011, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Jan 17 2011, 05:19 PM)
RM80 including 3 pcs cloth microfiber?
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onr only & 3 plushy for 20

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I have been struggling with water stains on my windscreen & adding on driving in low light & kaboom rain -


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you know by leaving yr white cars not wash for a week plus u will get stripes - like zebra - because of our acid rains, industrial fall out & esp working & staying near factory with emission fumes - I am one of the victim

this was what i have been struggling with for a long time.....didnt want to do anything .....as read so much about the harm of ammonia product used for cleaners but leaving lots of side effects (Rxxx-X - bla bla bla) will cost u a hundreds (to replace our silicones blades)..rubber

then Txx Cxxx - an acid - corrosive base that may stuck & smear on the micro fine lines...from the wiper blades wears..... & pls be used it with caution, as it is highly flammable & once done literally cant be undone

* for i have far too much SOS call from those who have use it...& instead sloving water marks now smeared the glass



a 50/50%
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before
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ta da
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what i did was simple clean & opti coated my wind screen
the clear side
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the before & after side

one more 50/50%
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now safe driving is far more important

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a simple remedy will be
adding 2 ounce of ONR into your wiper tank or get opti seal to hold up the surface bonding ( all u need is to apply 3-4 times a year)



Some tips for night driving - i do have a pair of night driving glasses to cut away the glare- it help *my eyes is not so tired

Night Vision
Halo Effect reflection anti-reflective
Everyone should take extra care when driving at night because no matter how good your vision is, it will be more difficult to see. In most areas there are good levels of street lighting and our eyes do adapt naturally to help us see better at night time. Some people with eye problems may notice their sight becomes worse at night. Others may only find they have a problem with their sight when it is dark. This condition is often referred to as night myopia.




Night Myopia
Night myopia is a form of short sightedness and generally affects people under the age of 45. Someone with night myopia will be able to see things close up but not those in the distance. Objects in the distance will appear blurred. Young people with normal eye sight may find that in the dark, when there are low levels of light, their sight becomes blurred and they cannot focus on things that are close up. This occurs because in normal situations the eyes can change focus between short and long distances easily but when there is not much light, the system breaks down. The eyes are only able to focus on things in the distance at about one metre away.


Treatment for Night Myopia
It is not possible to prescribe special glasses or contact lenses for this condition. In most cases there is enough light when driving from street lighting and car headlamps for the eyes to work sufficiently. This is the case even in rural areas when there may be no street lighting. You should check with your optician that your vision meets the correct requirement for driving.

Blurred Vision
Another problem which may affect some people at night time is blurred vision. When there are low levels of light, the pupil becomes larger and this can accentuate any problems with focussing which causes blurring. If you do notice that your sight becomes slightly blurry in the dark, you may need to change your glasses or contact lenses to a higher prescription. You should visit your optician for advice.

Haloes and Reflections
Some people notice that they can see a halo effect or reflections around bright lights. This is more likely to happen when driving and the effects occur when looking at headlights. This does not necessarily mean there is a problem with your eyes but it is more likely a result of a dirty windscreen or glasses. The light scatters on a dirty surface which causes the halo effect or reflections. Condensation can also cause the light to reflect. It is important to clean your windscreen on the outside and on the inside to remove any dirt. Also make sure that your glasses are not dirty or scratched. There are anti-reflection lenses available which will reduce the likelihood of any halo effect or reflection and might be helpful if you drive a lot at night.

Not only is it dangerous to wear tinted glasses or sunglasses in the dark but the Highway Code stipulates that you should not wear them when driving at night. It is also inadvisable to wear them when weather conditions are poor, such as when it is raining heavily, it is foggy or snowing as visibility will be low. Tinted motorcycle helmets should also not be worn at night time or when the weather is bad.

Tips for Driving at Night

* Have regular eye tests to ensure your sight is up to the required standard
* Carry a spare pair of glasses or contact lenses in the car
* Consider wearing anti-reflective lenses to reduce the light reflected from the lens surface
* If you have any problems with your eyes, check with your optician for advice about driving at night

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post Jan 18 2011, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(michaelyii1988 @ Jan 16 2011, 03:37 PM)
a 5years old+- car that never clay b4 but got polish n wax at least once a year(with OTC product,not Meg) recently tried Meg clay,but canot pick up anything..wad's the possible reason? no contaminant on paint surface?
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Michael, after a good carwash, use your hand as guide, can you feel any bits of contaminants, if not then your car most probably is clean. Polishing action do clean up contaminants sometimes. Extreme ones even use plastic bags to check but doing that I constantly get unevenness which can never be gone so I just use hand as guide.

Meg clay is sometimes non grabby. Another possibility is you glide too lightly.. should have slight pressure as wiping BUT ensure sufficient claylube to not mar. You can try Permaglass ones as comparison..

WTS: Premium Cobra/Meguiars http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1562657







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post Jan 21 2011, 04:47 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELgE00Z8Ccg

Anyone came accross this product? is it safe for the clear coat?

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post Jan 21 2011, 06:32 PM

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driving in rain day time? sunglasses help???????

This is a long over due pict (i shoot) refer as case study

I have been driving under the rains with sunglasses for the past 20 yrs & i still find it works ( my 20 years old faithful rayban too)

see before pics - taken by my compact camera
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ta da
glare filtered & smooth visibility

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yeah - you do not need to strain yr eyes -
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According to my Uncle - Ophthalmologist (eyes specialist) it is recommended to use sunglasses - to filter away the sunray & uv - inorder to prevent glaucoma.
Glaucoma leads to blindness by damaging the optic nerve. Elevated pressure in the eye is a risk factor, but even people with normal pressure can lose vision

Glaucoma is an eye disorder in which the optic nerve suffers damage, permanently impacting vision in the affected eye(s) and progressing to complete
another example

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with my old faithful

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solarwing
post Jan 21 2011, 11:16 PM

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Hi all expert, pls help me on below scratches by coin, any recommended products for wash/polish/wax can solve? since this is my 1st time DIY.
Appreciate it.

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post Jan 22 2011, 07:55 AM

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it hurt deep i think it is very hard to cure it for 100% u can make it less obvious by compounding it or wetsanding then polish but i think u need to apply touch up paint.
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post Jan 22 2011, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(solarwing @ Jan 21 2011, 11:16 PM)
Hi all expert, pls help me on below scratches by coin, any recommended products for wash/polish/wax can solve? since this is my 1st time DIY.
Appreciate it.

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Did you park your car illegally somewhere or did park in an improper manner? Usually coin scratches are done towards cars that are park badly & causes inconveniences to others.
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post Jan 22 2011, 05:45 PM

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bro

no worries...you are not the first nor last one

I know how geram u can be , esp,.....we are the victim

@ way to resolve it.....let it be....for i have a friend constantly being scratch by some idiot...so therefore he stop painting it & the vandalism stop

2nd cost u lot of $$$$ to get it repaint ....make sure u send to the right one...

My recommendation is to keep the original paint...if I would have repainted 5 years ago...i will regret..cos most of our paint shop....3/4 bucket kung fu

now my paint still shines & gloss...even this long line left unattended...if i would have respray..i might lost the authenticity of it

BTW no point wet sanded....risk of getting your over all clear coat down...wears out prematurely

dont give up the whole forest for 1 plant
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KC , u got any idea of the link i post? the water repellant things, is it clear coat safe?

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jan 22 2011, 06:58 PM)
KC , u got any idea of the link i post? the water repellant things, is it clear  coat safe?
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bro my heart is very weak - i dare not to try some thing which i have not read about in others international forum - autogeek, autopia, optimum.com meguiarsonlines

my clear coat is 12 years old liow...still going strong



Hi buddies this is the 2nd edition of our magazines

hope you enjoy it
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post Jan 22 2011, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Jan 22 2011, 05:45 PM)
bro

no worries...you are not the first nor last one

I know how geram u can be , esp,.....we are the victim

@ way to resolve it.....let it be....for i have a friend constantly being scratch by some idiot...so therefore he stop painting it & the vandalism stop

2nd cost u lot of $$$$ to get it repaint ....make sure u send to the right one...

My recommendation is to keep the original paint...if I would have repainted 5 years ago...i will regret..cos most of our paint shop....3/4 bucket kung fu

now my paint still shines & gloss...even this long line left unattended...if i would have respray..i might lost the authenticity of it

BTW no point wet sanded....risk of getting your over all clear coat down...wears out prematurely

dont give up the whole forest for 1 plant
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Bro, any solution to help it out my car?
planning to buy polish/wax product have a try, planning to get soft99, can?pls advise.

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is it better to but separate wash and was products or 2 in 1 wash + wash...?
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QUOTE(solarwing @ Jan 22 2011, 09:38 PM)
Bro, any solution to help it out my car?
planning to buy polish/wax product have a try, planning to get soft99, can?pls advise.
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to know you need to do some homework-
our current handphone are slims and full of functionality - some even have 3G, camera Wifi, Blue tooth GPS & Etc.......but why dont we go back to nokia days to use 8200 modal...it is out of dates & we need to keep up with the trend

it was a good product back then - now another story

polish wax - contain both cleaner & minimised wax - let me ask you ,,,what was the reason u want to polish ? is there a scratch u need to remove or some hard stains & same time you want to protect your paint?????

most of these product contains high contain solvent - petroluem bases .....prolong use might risk yr clear coat

whatever the product u will be buying, i suggest is must be for lear coat safe

as for me - i choose convenience & so easy i can appply in just 5 minutes for the whole car & do it as often as i could

QUOTE(krk24 @ Jan 23 2011, 12:51 AM)
is it better to but separate wash and was products or 2 in 1 wash + wash...?
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Yupp

same goes with yr 3 in one shampoo or nescafe

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