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michaelyii1988
post Jan 6 2011, 07:51 PM

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ultimate compound more towards minor oxidation n some swirls mayb?
its a little bit more aggressive than swirlx/scratchx i guess..
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post Jan 6 2011, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(michaelyii1988 @ Jan 6 2011, 07:51 PM)
ultimate compound more towards minor oxidation n some swirls mayb?
its a little bit more aggressive than swirlx/scratchx i guess..
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i bougt the bosch polishing sponge for rm30..velcro
i wonder if it will not damage my paitwork when i apply swirl x
also bought the cheap rm10 sponge with velcro too

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post Jan 6 2011, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(Robin Liew @ Jan 6 2011, 09:44 PM)
i bougt the bosch polishing sponge for rm30..velcro
i wonder if it will not damage my paitwork when i apply swirl x
also bought the cheap rm10 sponge with velcro too
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No worries if Swirls X - but after every panel or two pld detach & flush with water
& then stick it back & spin dry in a bucket

The success key is - u must alwasy have a clean & un contaminated pads when buffing


no worry for the cheap but the harshness & body structure should be well consider prior using - otherwise u get more damaged than good
Some times less is more

techniques & working on with products also into considerations
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post Jan 8 2011, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(michaelyii1988 @ Jan 6 2011, 07:51 PM)
ultimate compound more towards minor oxidation n some swirls mayb?
its a little bit more aggressive than swirlx/scratchx i guess..
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A quick comment of using aggresive polishing/compound you have to know removing scratches/swirls is just levelling the clearcoat/paint till flat. So, each time you're successful you're removing paint which may eventually end in clearcloat failure, hazy which comes back often. Surprisingly recent new cars are showing very low paint readings of <100 on PTG. Dark cars swirls seen easier while white is barely noticible which I suggest to not be too worry about it focusing on right detailing technique.

So focus on good tools(Premium wash mitt, MF towels, foam applicator) that comes with good carwash techniques like 2 bucket system. Key is cleaning the tools often so that no grit is left when your mitt/towels/applicator touch the paint during wash & polish.

Same with machines, make sure your pads are clean up between usage when clog up as contaminants will swirl up your car like most cheapo car wash does..

My suggestion, do it right with correct car wash to minimize ADDING swirls. Using a chemical cleaner like most AIO polish or Cleaner Wax first. Only if needed go aggresive polish or compound from least aggresive first; SwirlX before ScratchX2.0 before Ultimate Compound.

BTW, after you polish you better apply LSP (sealant or wax) later unless it's an AIO else no protection.
Nothing last for 6 months here though touted in US as lousy wax max a few weeks, better ones 1-2 months and key to extending between polish with spray wax topper AFTER a good carwash.

WTS: Cobra/Meguiars http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1562657&hl=

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Robin Liew
post Jan 8 2011, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(KC's @ Jan 6 2011, 11:48 PM)
No worries if Swirls X - but after every panel or two pld detach & flush with water
& then stick it back & spin dry in a bucket

The success key is - u must alwasy have a clean & un contaminated pads when buffing
no worry for the cheap but the harshness & body structure should be well consider prior using  - otherwise u get more damaged than good
Some times less is more

techniques & working on with products also into considerations
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i used the bosch sopnge to apply the swirlx and use the Mr Clean microfibre cloth to remove the swirl x..
is this method ok?

i noticed swirl x not so good
can see many fade scrathes on the bonnet


Added on January 8, 2011, 10:33 amcan NXT Tech Wax 2.0 be layered?

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m|ng
post Jan 8 2011, 10:46 AM

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Sifu Sifu sekalian.
Need your advise and insight on some marks that I have on my car.

I recently noticed the roof has wierd marks recently.
So Since i had remaining of the UC that i used previously, I tried on 1 portion of it.
The paint became glossier, but the marks are still there (btw im applying by hand)

Is this a sign of clear coat failure? hmm.gif
I've adjusted the contrast slightly so that it's easier to see.

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post Jan 8 2011, 11:07 AM

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@ming: My ride's paintwork had the similar marks too. Dont mind me asking the following questions, mate. Firstly, did you applied passion on to your pads while applying UC on the marks ? Secondly, how many times did you applied UC on the marks; one time only or a continuous repeat of few times application ? Thirdly, what pads are you using for the above mentioned works ?

Here's my noob yet humble opinion, I would presume that your clear coat is more of a hard type and thus may require a stronger compound & apparatus to remove the marks. Perhaps you could give a try on the combination of terry cloth towel + UC.


Pls sincerely correct me if I'm giving the wrong advice over here. A completely newbie detailler over here. smile.gif
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Er. passion? lol. i think u meant pressure.
Yea I did, I tried using a sponge applicator and a MF applicator.
I did a couple of passes. about 3-4 passes. doesnt work.

Yea i think my clear coat is really tough. its 2k paint. Resprayed about 10 years back. I think this needs tobe worked in by machine. Anyway my UC is finishing since its a small sample bottle.

so i might try the hyper compound from KC once my ROB comes back..
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post Jan 8 2011, 09:48 PM

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Hi to all my buddy in KUCHING SARAWAK

I will be going to Kuching on 10 Jan
will be free to organise a detailing TT session (small scale)

Time : evening
Date: 11 th or 12 th Jan 2011

place : TBA

kindly call me to confirm 016 220 9227 the details

thing to cover 5 steps of detailing

Rotary hands on

Car wash - ONR
Clay
paint correction
Polishing/machine rotary hand on

Lastly - waxing

Cheers


see u at Cat city

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tchtax
post Jan 10 2011, 07:35 PM

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Hi guys and sifu's

Can I get some suggestions from you guys as to which products I should use for leather, vinyl/rubber cleaning and conditioner, especially those that don;t leave a shiny and slippery surface.?

Many thanks.
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post Jan 11 2011, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Jan 10 2011, 07:35 PM)
Hi guys and sifu's

Can I get some suggestions from you guys as to which products I should use for leather, vinyl/rubber cleaning and conditioner, especially those that don;t leave a shiny and slippery surface.?

Many thanks.
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I guess Optimum Power Clean should be able to meet your requirements. On the other hand, Meguiars All Purpose Cleaner should be able to solve your task.

Happy detailing, mate. smile.gif

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post Jan 12 2011, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(jackal400 @ Jan 11 2011, 08:50 PM)
I guess Optimum Power Clean should be able to meet your requirements. On the other hand, Meguiars All Purpose Cleaner should be able to solve your task.

Happy detailing, mate.  smile.gif
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yupp i use to carry APC la, degreaser la, super degreaser la, leather cleaner, interior cleaner, wheel cleaner , window cleaner - MXXXXXXs

now i only have 1

Power clean & dilutes all my need

so safe u can used for paint & to interior to engine

& does not etch yr skin


interior to engine

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yeah.. wheres tt tonite?/ ill be there if got any ride.. :bawling:



hi buddy we just had a greatime of detailing hands on session ended at 12.30 am

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will post later

from this
de-rubberish again

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ta da'

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just with power clean


stay tune for more updates
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post Jan 12 2011, 03:40 PM

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any pic to share - give us a clue or idea if u could




ok i took some pic of the hazy staind but cant really capture it properly....but if you see from the pic espcially when the light is highly concentrate on that region you will like some sort of a light reflection.....let me know wat you think


Added on January 12, 2011, 3:43 pmcloser look

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post Jan 12 2011, 09:21 PM

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You got a nice big compound, dude. Mind if I come over to your house and do some detailing??? brows.gif
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post Jan 13 2011, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Jan 12 2011, 09:21 PM)
You got a nice big compound, dude. Mind if I come over to your house and do some detailing??? brows.gif
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haha dun be fool by the reflection.....its actually gud enuff for one person walk through around the car.....
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post Jan 13 2011, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Jan 12 2011, 09:21 PM)
You got a nice big compound, dude. Mind if I come over to your house and do some detailing??? brows.gif
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Ha ha.. seconded that tchtax rclxms.gif Blacksunday, tried looking at your pictures but cannot see the haze you mean unless your car have been polished before, then the funny light wave are holograms ie the products didn't have time to finish correctly. Another is if compounded before, there may be compounding haze that's needs a polishing pad to restore the gloss but don't seem in this case. Anyway, take care of our rides with good quality products to not instill swirls, that's key.

WTS: Premium Cobra/Meguiars http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1562657

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QUOTE(msk @ Jan 13 2011, 09:18 AM)
Ha ha.. seconded that tchtax rclxms.gif Blacksunday, tried looking at your pictures but cannot see the haze you mean unless your car have been polished before, then the funny light wave are holograms ie the products didn't have time to finish correctly. Another is if compounded before, there may be compounding haze that's needs a polishing pad to restore the gloss but don't seem in this case. Anyway, take care of our rides with good quality products to not instill swirls, that's key.

WTS: Premium Cobra/Meguiars http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1562657
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hey msk.....i think your explanation is as close as possible to what im facing.....neway my history so far with detailing is very simple diy....due to budget wise......usually will wash the car once a week...and from time to time...will give a wax and then few months later polish....and recently just a month ago...i bought mequire swirl x to remove the swirl...surprisingly it did get rid most of it...but again the sort like light wave holograms are present there...so you may be right that i didnt give it enough time to finish up correctly...so wat would be your advise, to polish it one more time and really let it buff up correctly or just send it to the shop and let them handle it?.....


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QUOTE(blacksunday @ Jan 13 2011, 09:25 AM)
hey msk.....i think your explanation is as close as possible to what im facing.....neway my history so far with detailing is very simple diy....due to budget wise......usually will wash the car once a week...and from time to time...will give a wax and then few months later polish....and recently just a month ago...i bought mequire swirl x to remove the swirl...surprisingly it did get rid most of it...but again the sort like light wave holograms are present there...so you may be right that i didnt give it enough time to finish up correctly...so wat would be your advise, to polish it one more time and really let it buff up correctly or just send it to the shop and let them handle it?.....
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Hmm hologram by hand?? I'm not sure as SwirlX is SMAT as usually holograms by machines using DAT (diminishing abrasives).. Another possibility touch wood is you're too agressive and the haze is onset of clearcoat failure but unlikely as SwirlX is quite mild compare with Ultimate compound. If send to shop, ensure reputable as it may just cause you heartache as they will give massive swirls to your car as their polishing pads won't be as clean as DIY enthusiast. Good luck.
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QUOTE(blacksunday @ Jan 12 2011, 04:40 PM)
any pic to share - give us a clue or idea if u could
ok i took some pic of the hazy staind but cant really capture it properly....but if you see from the pic espcially when the light is highly concentrate on that region you will like some sort of a light reflection.....let me know wat you think


Added on January 12, 2011, 3:43 pmcloser look
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a few questions:-

is this a 2nd hand car? or it has been sent for machine polish!or wash regularly by car wash, possible compound like agent use on the paint surface

hologam like visible slightly below the frame area.....


the Clear coat has some hazzy looking top

hope to hear from u

p/s when was the last time you change yr microfibers? using any sponges & mitts???

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