apa brand ?

I am using one without pipe. No piping! It has all the features and functions that produces the cleanest water possible. There is no one filter system that is better than this one. Use in space station and millitary, in warship, submarine. It also dispense hot and cold water ready all the time good for ppl who drink chinese tea with small tea pots so that you get hot tea all the time.

If not mistake, the Alphamax are OEM from Perfect Steel too

yup u r rite. Tatz y ur Perfect steel filter also got NSF logo. THe NSF is for micro z media..

i m thinking to install POE Puregen. Any comment about Puregen?...they r having promotion.

last week syabas replace my old GI pipe before meter with stainless steel and saiz 1 inche...wow now water pressure very good.

I remember someone mentioned about puregen in this thread before

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751269/+358

and

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751269/+375

This post has been edited by leeyung: Mar 8 2012, 10:57 AM

TQ...this case..puregen cancel...

I just saw a water filter pitcher in Perfect Living and I think it is under Mitsubishi..
Such a strong brand..Here is the link I search :
http://www.cleansui.com/en/product/pitcher/CP007E.html

What in my mind when 1st time saw this: looks like Blender..lol...
Btw, it's selling point is portable and mobile can carry here and there..They target for those who working 8 hours in office..

U all can have a look..And I just bought 1 because it is alkaline water after filter..So that i can bring to my office rather than i keep buy mineral water..

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Apr 13 2012, 04:04 PM

Cool, so you selling 3M now

How much the cartridge for the indoor and outdoor, let me know the price. Want to buy one set to keep.

Based on picture posted by bro zheilwane , to compare between 3M outdoor filter & gigantic Perfect steel. Bigger size doesnt mean a better filter process ? quality wise, the same ? maintenance wise ?

zheilwane
wah..what make you decided to get 3M in?

The size, price, performance and also the real feedback from weikee (he has been using it for months) make me choose this filter This filter is to target ppl who have space constraints like condos or ppl who wan something slim and not too bulky for their house.

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Added on April 14, 2012, 11:10 pmWe will b open 2molo (sunday) from 10am - 6pm, if interested can drop by to have a look. We are usually close on sunday.


You can call us for direction once u reach Kepong, we are facing the main road (same row as hong leong bank)
Tel : 03-62572412

Here is my location
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F...D19&h=WAQGLVakP

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Apr 14 2012, 11:12 PM

Aiyo, with price like that, I should have waited

Well, I would say, the best water filter will have the following characteristic :-

1. Filter Cartridges as we know must be replaced periodically. So filter replacement must be the cheapest.

2. Filtered water must be the cleanest.

3. Must have some form of water filtration standard in producing water. Well, you must imagine water filtration using water with LOW and HIGH incoming pressure, the filtered water must be the same.

With the above criteria in mind, it narrows down to :-

Reverse Osmosis or Distilled Water.

Don't listen to people telling you that we cannot drink water that is too pure. this is marketing gimmick as Reverse Osmosis water filtration is what they fear most. There is no science that says mineral cannot be added to pure water which will give you mineral water.

All water filters including AMWAY fails point 3 above. People always say we need to drink mineral water, but try asking them these Questions:-

1. Can they guarantee the mineral content of their water filter.
2. Can they guarantee water produced through their water filter say from Johor, or from Perlis or any other place have the same mineral content. So what mineral are they talking about?
3. Don't forget all Mineral water that we bought from super market do label their mineral content on the label.
4. We can equate toxic chemical as water mineral that their water filter cannot get rid off, that is why they have to sing mineral water.
5. A higher incoming water pressure will always produce faster than a lower water pressure. Therefore water quality will also be different. No water quality standard.

Reverse Osmosis on the other hand.

1. Water produce has no mineral content, but mineral can be added after filtration with mineral stones.
2. There is a standard model like: 50Gallon/day, 75Gallon/day and so on. This rating is set by the manufacturer.
3. Whether Low/High water pressure, output water still the same.
4. Can be used to filter sea water. This is what used onboard ship.
5. Water even sold in Supermarket.

No need to add mineral to RO water. You get your mineral from food.

Hee Hee, I am more to the non-RO water camp.

From personal experience drinking only RO water for many years.
Just switched to mineral water 4 years ago.
As mentioned in previous thread, When I started going for full medical check-up 4-5 years ago,
I was dignosed with thin bone density and this is a rare occourance for a male of my age.
I suspected it might be because my body can't take too much RO water without affecting my health.
I would like to comment on some points presented above.

1. Filter Cartridges as we know must be replaced periodically. So filter replacement must be the cheapest.
Agreed, but should be of good quality standard (with external certification), cheap is good but if cheapest usually .....

2. Can they guarantee water produced through their water filter say from Johor, or from Perlis or any other place have the same mineral content. So what mineral are they talking about?
We mankind has been drinking water from different natural source for centuries, so consistant mineral content should not be a point of contention.

3. Must have some form of water filtration standard in producing water. Well, you must imagine water filtration using water with LOW and HIGH incoming pressure, the filtered water must be the same.
Agreed that there must be a standard. As with point No.2, with mineral water, mineral content consistancy should not be a point of contention as long as they meet the standard that allows healthy consumption.


I believe that the points above will also answer the second part about mineral water quality.

NSF 53 is the standard that I refer to for filtered water that meets healthy drinking water standard.
Its filtered so there is still mineral water content.
"NSF/ANSI Standard 53: Drinking Water Treatment Units - Health Effects
Overview: Standard 53 addresses point-of-use (POU) and point-of-entry (POE) systems designed to reduce specific health-related contaminants, such as Cryptosporidium, Giardia, lead, volatile organic chemicals (VOCs), MTBE (methyl tertiary-butyl ether), that may be present in public or private drinking water."

NSF standard for RO is refer to NSF58
"NSF/ANSI Standard 58: Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Treatment Systems
Overview: This standard was developed for point-of-use (POU) reverse osmosis (RO) treatment systems. These systems typically consist of a pre-filter, RO membrane, and post-filter. Standard 58 includes contaminant reduction claims commonly treated using RO, including fluoride, hexavalent and trivalent chromium, total dissolved solids, nitrates, etc. that may be present in public or private drinking water

As for the facts regarding RO

1. Water produce has no mineral content, but mineral can be added after filtration with mineral stones.
If mineral is added back, via mineral stone, how to adhere to consistant mineral content in water ??
2. There is a standard model like: 50Gallon/day, 75Gallon/day and so on. This rating is set by the manufacturer.
Generally all manufacturer including the non RO filtration system has their own standard also, not just RO filtration manufacturers.
3. Whether Low/High water pressure, output water still the same.
Depends on the filtration system, there is also many non RO filtration system (esprcially the higher end models) that provide such consistant water output, one of them mentioned here is AMWAY.
4. Can be used to filter sea water. This is what used onboard ship.
In the sea, that is the only option avalaible lah, of course lah.
5. Water even sold in Supermarket.
Mineral water also sold in supermarket. Pricier some more.

Hee hee, jangan marah ye... just want to defend filtered Mineral Water that I am currently using.

Mineral water sold in supermarket do label their mineral content.

Like iron, calcium, and so on with content level.

This mineral water filter cannot even tell us the mineral content and level after their water filter, what is that to argue about we must drink mineral water.

Not the only option. You can capture water from the air. There is one called Atmospheric Water Genertor use in large ship mostly military, submerine and space station. Water is heavy, every litre is 1 kg. Imagine one man need at least 2 to 4 liter just for drinking. 1 litre for brushing teeth? A one month mission for one man on space we are talking about 60 to 120 kg of water to be lifted up to space by rocket. It costs one million dollar to put a man up. It cost similar amount of money carrying the water for him. So, you got the Russian invention of Atmospheric Water Generator for their MIR station. All the waste water are reconverted with this water generator and filtered with RO.

A soldier cannot live without water in desert in 2-3 hrs. Imagine you run the football field for one half (45 minutes) under our hot afternoon sun. You can not last the 2nd half without half break drinking water. The US army trucks following behind the tanks and soldiers supplied not only water and fuel for the soldiers and their tanks and guns but also atmospheric water generators for the soldiers days and nights operated and camped in desrt in the operation desert strom.

For filtered household water, it comes from tap which is pretreated.
I agree it may not be up to standard but it has gone through a treatment process before we filter it again.
So no mineral content specification does not mean there is poison.

Not arguing for "must" drink mineral water, "defending" mineral water.