your washer is front load?

Well, the number says it all but the caveat is what they use on a normal wash as the less water part are probably ecowash method. What counts is the normal wash or the program that is used often.

The use less water part was an ongoing initiative to make economical washers. The first few iteration produced washers that did that but sacrificed on clothe cleaning quality with less water. Some even caused skin allergy esp for babies when used with tablet/powder due to insufficient time for it to dissolve. This is more prone in countries like the UK where their water literally taste like air kapur ie very high calcium carbonate/lime in their water ie hard water. Here the water is softer. Hence, we see the allergy care feature that bore out from that experience. Nowadays, there's Electrolux steam clean, LG 6 method wash, Hitachi has its own, Samsung ecobubble, etc, etc.


The main issue about smell is the moisture retention rate after spin. 1000rpm and above should be less of an issue. I find the smell issue is due to mould buildup over time behind the stainless steel drum ie the part we don't see. This is resolved with wdarke's advice of a 90deg Celcius wash with bleach say every 2-3 months. A few models Hitachi's one has a tub clean program that emulates that. Just add bleach.

The gasket now has drainage holes, so this is less of a problem. This was true back when they didn't have it and made FL prone unsightly mould build up. Not as much anymore.

Yes, if warranty is a stickler in the consideration, check it out with salesman and the manufacturer.

out of the 5 brands of fl washer i've checked, hitachi seems to be the one that offers the least 'fancy'? features.

and only LG has a visible drain hole right at the bottom of the door gasket....

the LG 6 motion thingy for front loaders...

at first it seems fancy...

but after I have watched a few more youtube videos showing FL washing, looks
like if u load the FL over a certain amount , this '6 motion' thing can't work, and
LG program probably won't turn it ON, cos the drum is just too full for the content to do fancy movements,.,,,

notice the LG demo video, they only put in a few pcs of clothes...
which is way way below the 50% and above capacity of the washer...




this is a vid showing samsung ecobubble 8kg fl washer being stuffed with 5kg of load.
inside the drum looks kinda packed.
a load like this in the LG 6 motion will be = 1 motion...



This post has been edited by H2D: Jan 2 2014, 10:33 AM

From what I experienced since I own one, Hitachi features are:
1. in the way it washes the clothes - even the towels come out softer
2. quieter spin noise (42db) due to inverter drive even at 1400rpm unless you're 1m away from it you won't even know it's spinning
3. 4-ply liquid load balancer - when the drum is spun with the hand, you'll hear water. That's the liquid of the load balancer. No amount of pumping will drain it out. It acts to counteract unbalanced loads and very effective at it.
4. 15-min rapid wash - One suitcase worth of laundry of different material done in under 1 hour in 3 loads.

The thing that I like is the timer. Set the time the wash should finish and off you go but that should be standard with many washers eg Time manager.

Actually, there's different emphasis from different manufacturer based on the feedback and market response. Ariston has bedding and towel wash function which I know some housewives swear by. Some even have jeans, etc. Get one suited to the washing needs.

Actually, LG is not the only one with gasket drain holes. Most if not all FL washers made from 2008 onwards have this already. All the major brands do. Electrolux may have been on of the earliest to have it since 2004 but that doesn't discount it from Bosch, etc.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Jan 2 2014, 10:44 AM

great,
i wana find out from you, how does ur hitachi fill the drum with detergent water and during rinsing?

does it have a nozzle like LG?

or the water just flows from the the holes of the drum from top? bottom?

This post has been edited by H2D: Jan 2 2014, 01:22 PM

Hey guys, need some advise.

Current I'm using a 9.0kg semi-auto top washer (manual water fill in, after wash need to spin, then pickup and load into the side spinner/dryer). I don't mind the hassle but I really wouldn't want to burden the wife.

Anyway, we've been surveying arnd and apparently she wants to try the front load type. Anyone care to suggest something below rm1.5k range, prefer arnd ~rm1k that can set the program to auto wash, refill, spin, and dry. It's just us two and our 2yo son, so not that much clothes since we always do our laundry every Sat morning.

If no such FL exists at that range, what top-loading washer do u guys recommend? Thanks.

I think unlikely to get front load below RM 1.5K
nearest to 1.5K is about:
http://www.rakuten.com.my/shop/senq/product/BOS-WAE16060SG/
http://www.rakuten.com.my/shop/senq/product/ELE-EWP85742/

Get a top load fully automatic probably at RM1K+ is very good enough unless you need hot water function.

Hi all,

We have been using Toshiba AW-B7080S 5kg Top Load WM for 13+ years and A Simpson SDM450 4.5kg Dryer for 8+ years. The washer still in working condition, but the dryer just died last week. The dryer has been replacing rolling belt every 2 years (cost RM60 per belt), I think the dryer is having serious problem and not worth fixing it, it is time to get a new one... actually, I am thinking of changing the washer as well

For new washer & dryer set-up, I am considering...
I am keen on the LG WD-MD750WM that cost about RM1.6k (http://www.lg.com/my/washing-machines/lg-WD-MD750WM) and the Electrolux Dryer EDV-600 at RM1k (http://www.jintexelectronics.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=36&products_id=978).... are these washer and dryer a good buy and reliable?

By the way, mine Simpson dryer was serviced by Electrolux HQ many years ago, their service was ok. Recently, 3rd party company is handling after sale service - TRIM RESOURCES in Subang Jaya (http://panpages.my/listings/my186283-trim-resources), my last visit with them... their service was very poor... as the result, I am hesitating of buying Electrolux products, worry of after sale service

On the other hand, I am also thinking of just get a new big washer without the dryer - hope the new washer provide high speed spinning/circular air intake and get quicker drying on the cloths. I am also thinking of getting the Toshiba B1100GM 10kg top load washer at RM1.4k (http://toshiba.com.my/washing-machine/aw-b1100gm.html#.Usv-W7TINwY)... is this top loader washer good enough to make the cloths dry within half a day (hanging cloths indoor)?

Thanks in advance for your advise and input.

Happy New Year!

This post has been edited by clickNsnap: Jan 8 2014, 12:15 AM

when I went to BHB last 2 weeks, i saw SHARP front load washing machine with price RM999 very good bargain!

FL is the best... you will notice significant difference in the washed cloth.... less tangle and dryer...

my current washer is TL. planning to get a new one.

im also getting a new one..

thinking of front load, but still undecided...

now seems like jap brand hitachi, panasonic, toshiba offers 3 years control board warranty,
where as the koreans only one year....

jap brand market is so small.. only some SEA countries.. vs korean selling worldwide...

can't even get any hitachi n panasonic user manual online... at least toshiba can download.
email hitachi cs, no response, panasonic responded less than a day...




LG's latest top load model, available in msia, but this vid is on the saudi arabia LG site.

heater function is for stain care n allergy care course and tub clean only, other than these,
heater is not used.

can't wash full load when using heating functioning course.

steam function... not sure how it is produced.. ( gimmick ?)

full ss tub, LG tub is full ss compared to others which has plastic parts, but i think
the pulsator is not ss.. they paint it to look like ss...

anti slam lid... will slowly close..

auto lint remove.. not sure how effective this function is...

the outside really look modern n stylish.. compared to big 'cheap looking' plastic tub frm jap brand...
the inside components... ??




samsung eco bubble...

arent we suppose to use low sud detergent for FL washer?

can bubbles/foam/suds be created by eco bubble using low sud detergent?

This post has been edited by H2D: Jan 9 2014, 02:30 AM

plan to get a new washing machine
but undecided either get front load or top load
saw electrolux 7kg front load rm1499++, elba 7kg front load 1699 in one well known electronic shop located in KK Sabah
while 9kg hitachi and panasonic top load is about 1400++ at senq


anybody got any recommendation?

Guys, any guidelines to decide on the size of front loader, i.e 7kg, 8kg, 10 kg or 13kg?
I'm looking for 4 people usage with alternate weekend washing for items like bedsheet / curtains, etc.

after watching many vids of washers in action...
and reading ppl's comment...

the conclusion is...

mostly you will never be able to wash up to max weight...
say FL 8kg, if u wana put in 8kg of shirts into the drum...
it is not going to fit...
the vid in my post earlier... tht guy says 5kg and the drum is almost full..
and the clothes in the middle can hardly move out at all...
even if it takes 2-3 hours to wash...

if u look at the drum size of most 8kg FL washer.. it is not very big at all.
to wash effectively, load until it is half or a bit more...
n tht amount of clothes might not even be 4kg.. i think...

I don't think washing machine appliance manufacturer will lie about the weight. It's dry weight.

Volume is another matter as the sizes of the drum varies. In a large drum even the 8kg looks small whereas 12kg will look like its going to burst. Some washing machines have a mark on their drum to indicate max or close to max weight. However volume occupied by crumpled items do affect filling up appearance in the drum in addition to drum size so this has to be taken into account.

I've yet to see how the Hitachi 8kg washer fills up with water as requested. Will let you know when I do it. Mostly the home minister does the laundry.

BeeB88,

A useful guide that I found but only a guide nonetheless is seen here. Scroll down to the part titled 'What drum size do you need?'

Hope that helps but sometimes can ask around relatives, friends, colleagues, etc. They may share some insight from their usage, etc.

just take 10kg, should be just nice.

7kg might be too small for bedsheet or comforter.

For FL, take the biggest capacity you can afford. Difference in water/electricity usage for a load of the same size, across FL of different capacity is negligible. Modern FL has variable water usage, according to load size. You can wash a 2kg load, in a 10kg FL just fine without wasting water/electricity. Ok.. maybe electricity because you should go optimal all the time

From my experience, I own 8kg FL...
King size bedsheet + pillow cases + bolster case in one load. Comforter sheet in another load. It's definitely too small for the actual comforter itself. 10kg should be big enough for that.

H2D, sorry it took a while to find out. It just flows through the holes of the drum from the bottom.