Every brand and model is different.
For Panasonic, medium load, cold water takes about 1.5 hours.
Full load, with warm water takes 2+ hours.
There is a quick wash option, 15 mins but I doubt that would be very clean.

Already decided with samsung top load 10.5kg with whooble technology...purchase yesterday for rm1280 including delivery and installation.so fart he cheapest among all the shop i went to. Hopefully it serve me well. My minister of finance like the design...haha...

thx,

i'm just wondering, wouldn't front load energy consumption be equivalent to top load if not more,
since it takes longer to wash, means motor needs to run longer...

tho top load uses more water.. water is cheaper than electricity....

have anyone come across any front loader that has user customisable washing,
means user can control how long it washes, when rinse, spin....

Well, if you mainly wash cold water, I guess the electricity consumption of both FL and TL should be more or less the same. FL has different motor usage compared to TL, so you cannot simply equate washing time with electricity consumption. I think most comparison you read on the Internet also takes into account the amount of electricity needed to heat up the water, would be much more for TL since it uses considerably more water.

For me, the real advantage of FL is it's much gentler on clothes. Clothes are not cheap

Most FL ( and even TL ) has some degree of customisation. You can choose extra rinse, longer wash, spin speed etc.

which f-loader u are using?, age?

any issue with cleaning the rubber gasket? to prevent mold?

Panasonic 8kg. 3+ years. I wipe excess water off the rubber gasket after every wash. Every 2 months or so I put the machine through hottest cycle 90C with a cup of bleach.

warranty wars..

panasonic offers 12 year warranty for washer motor ( 8kg n above)

electrolux states 10 year warranty effective from 2nd August 2013 - 31st Dec 2013..
then 2014 what happens? increase or decrease warranty period?

Motor is probably the most reliable part of the washing machine. Other parts will break down first, and those are usually not covered by more than 3 years warranty. Hence, I wouldn't be too impressed with very long warranty for the motor.

First to go is usually the circuit board..., then the suspension system. After that probably the belt. Next would be the water pump

You suck into this warranty? They are warranty the motor only.

By the time 9yrs, you're already throwing out your WM. Others parts spoil is killing you.

i merely state only, i din mention suck into or otherwise...

yes i know it is for motor only.

this warranty period for motor is of course marketing strategy to attract buyers.

since motor is reliable, whts wrong to give long warranty...?

if they can give 10 years for motor in the USA etc, why can't they offer in Msia,
its good to know here we get the same warranty as well ( at least for motor )
unlike other devices like power tools.

for consumers, of course longer warranty is better, if they are confident on their product,
y are they afraid of giving long warranty?

so far for washer, I found out Hitachi give 10y for motor, 3 year for panel, 2 year for general...

LG on the outside have very impressive features, all seems to be +++ point compared to the competition,
but they only give 1 year for general ( other parts except the motor )


i'm sure washers nowadays don't last as long as those made 20-30 years ago.

This post has been edited by H2D: Dec 30 2013, 10:38 AM

I m not sure you realize that. If you looking for some electrical applicance, (example WM) the saleman will bla bla bla to you some story to the model they want to sell to you. Than will tell you 10yrs warranty on the motor !

You get hypnosis from their talking. Than you hear 10yrs warranty!. Straight away you interest and get it. You won't think detail about the con side. Your mind don't have the time to think this at all. You will still holding this point till somebody get you out from the trance.

This 10yrs warranty is not new thing. I brought a LG WM/dryer also state 10yrs warranty on the motor. Way back 2009.

Agreed.
The % of motor spoil not high, think the control panel and circuit board got higher chance to spoil, mostly 1-2 years warranty only and could cost Rm400-500 each.

Nowadays, i don't think it is easy to find out the con side of washing machine.

what most consumer can do is,

inspect each model at the shop,
compare spec given by manufacturer,
compare warranty,
compare price of diff model by diff brand

no way we can see all the washers in action..

asking for user opinion, n reviews, the most can get is a few out of thousands of users of that model...

read, understand n compare the user operation manual of each targeted model ...

*Thumbs up / Like* - This is a sound practice. It controls mould build up which would otherwise they would grow uncontrollably and clog up the pump. Dishwashers hardly have this problem as they wash at 65-70 deg Celcius.

Yes, very like what is done in this thread. One more thing to consider:
1. Map out the service center from where you live and also ask around that should it break down how long before a repairman comes. It's the cost of having a washer out of action. All this is relative to where you live.

Service centre location may not give a true picture as they are only where the call centres are. Routing to the relevant departments and place where the repair is done or spare parts are kept may not be in the same place. Exception is Hitachi as they operate out from Bangi which I have been to.

Electrolux - Section 13 PJ
Hitachi - Bangi
Bosch - Section 13 PJ
Beko - carried under Pacifica
Panasonic - ?
LG - ?
Samsung - ?
Toshiba - ?

very good point.

most others are using 3rd party technicians maybe...

i will b having 2 washers ( 1 old ) at home, unless both kaput at the same time...

LOL, as do I. have yet to repair the broken down one though.

ok, so overall, which one saves more in terms of water usage and electricity consumption? front load or top load?

different shop assistant gives different opinion, so confusing.

then next is which brand is reliable? been using panasonic, was wondering if other brands are better.

regarding the LG washers, I was going through the warranty booklet and apparently the warranty will expire as soon as you are claiming for it once. I can't remember the exact statement used in the booklet, but its to the same tune and effect.

Does anyone know how reliable Daewoo is? I had my eyes on one of the model, which has a declining angle front load drum.

all will say front load saves water cos the way the machine operates.
but FL will have a longer normal wash cycle.

some old folks say if u use less water, it won't be clean enough, n will smell..
so front loader will have extra rinse function.

FL have this door gasket which u need to wipe it dry after u stop washing.
so an extra step of maintenance.

i'm switching to front load washer..
will pick either electrolux, lg , samsung, panasonic, hitachi...

warranty can only claim once. hmmm.. should be true for most.. will have to find out.