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khieni
post Jul 12 2012, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Titan_Gunners @ Jul 12 2012, 10:01 PM)
Huh? look like you do not care the electric bill while buy fridge... doh.gif
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Ops...less experience too.....all the while my father pay for it.later when i moving to new house, i will paid it myself :-(

How to choose a fridge with lesser electric comsumption? like aircond look at EER etc.......tq
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post Jul 12 2012, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 12 2012, 10:12 PM)
Ops...less experience too.....all the while my father pay for it.later when i moving to new house, i will paid it myself :-(

How to choose a fridge with lesser electric comsumption? like aircond look at EER etc.......tq
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Yup, look at the EER and low defrost amp. When you pay yourself, you will know. Hehe. Fridge might be 30-40% of your total electric bill. Choosing a fridge is more important than choosing a TV.
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post Jul 12 2012, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jul 12 2012, 11:19 PM)
Yup, look at the EER and low defrost amp. When you pay yourself, you will know. Hehe. Fridge might be 30-40% of your total electric bill. Choosing a fridge is more important than choosing a TV.
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Walauyeah........30-40% of my bill cry.gif ..........
after planning to move out and be independent, i sudden feel that my father very great wub.gif he contribute a lot to us.....

ok, i will look at EER and low defrost amp..any acceptance limit? for example EER must more than 10 just like aircond? how about low defrost amp???


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post Jul 13 2012, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 12 2012, 11:23 PM)
Walauyeah........30-40% of my bill  cry.gif  ..........
after planning to move out and be independent, i sudden feel that my father very great  wub.gif he contribute a lot to us.....

ok, i will look at EER and low defrost amp..any acceptance limit? for example EER must more than 10 just like aircond? how about low defrost amp???
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I do not have the 'acceptance level'. As for AC, I also do not have them. I will only go for the one with highest EER at a reasonable price.
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post Jul 13 2012, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 12 2012, 11:23 PM)
Walauyeah........30-40% of my bill  cry.gif  ..........
after planning to move out and be independent, i sudden feel that my father very great  wub.gif he contribute a lot to us.....

ok, i will look at EER and low defrost amp..any acceptance limit? for example EER must more than 10 just like aircond? how about low defrost amp???
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It is not easy for you to check the spec in this way. Specially when scout around the shop. Those saleman even don't no all this eer thingy.

Normally the fridge have a spec sticker stick at the inner fridge side where normally the temp knob locate. You will see the information like voltage, ampere, watt, fridge size etc. The important is look at the ampere and watt. Or just the watt will do. Lowest the watt = more energy saving.

Use 1 of your favour fridge spec as a guide. Example your panasonic 400L fridge use 200w energy. Than check around any fridge you like that can lowest than the 200w with same size. That it easy for you to look for the energy saving fridge.

Another is look for the 5star rating sticker infront the fridge.
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post Jul 13 2012, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 13 2012, 09:15 AM)
It is not easy for you to check the spec in this way. Specially when scout around the shop. Those saleman even don't no all this eer thingy.

Normally the fridge have a spec sticker stick at the inner fridge side where normally the temp knob locate. You will see the information like voltage, ampere, watt, fridge size etc. The important is look at the ampere and watt. Or just the watt will do. Lowest the watt = more energy saving.

Use 1 of your favour fridge spec as a guide. Example your panasonic 400L fridge use 200w energy. Than check around any fridge you like that can lowest than the 200w with same size. That it easy for you to look for the energy saving fridge.

Another is look for the 5star rating sticker infront the fridge.
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Right, That is the way I use when I survey for the fridge. I was hoping that they have specs in their catalogues but apparently, they have nothing more than the features, nice looking model holding a drinking water glass, and lots of vege, apples and cake in the fridge. Give us some real data please.

As for the 5 start rating in Malaysia, it is tested rating. However, this is a relative comparison rating. If I am not mistaken, on the label, it writes, 'this unit is using xxx kW lesser than normal products'. What is the benchmark of 'other products'. So this is relatively a grey area. But I guess, by looking at that label, you know at least your selected product is at which level. Higher saving is always better.
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post Jul 13 2012, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 13 2012, 09:15 AM)
It is not easy for you to check the spec in this way. Specially when scout around the shop. Those saleman even don't no all this eer thingy.

Normally the fridge have a spec sticker stick at the inner fridge side where normally the temp knob locate. You will see the information like voltage, ampere, watt, fridge size etc. The important is look at the ampere and watt. Or just the watt will do. Lowest the watt = more energy saving.

Use 1 of your favour fridge spec as a guide. Example your panasonic 400L fridge use 200w energy. Than check around any fridge you like that can lowest than the 200w with same size. That it easy for you to look for the energy saving fridge.

Another is look for the 5star rating sticker infront the fridge.
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Wow, great info...appreciate very much........ rclxms.gif
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post Jul 14 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(sranua @ Mar 12 2012, 07:29 AM)
Looks like my Hitachi got a problem, for the past two days, it just blow hot air, every ice melt and no cold air.
Need to go the shop i bought it last time.
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ermm .. I'm planning to buy hitachi - R-ZG490EM

Seems like there's a few report mentioning issues with Hitachi and also noise ..

Older thread seems to praise hitachi and mitsubishi a lot ..

Could someone reccomend if it's still a good buy .. I kind of like the design a lot.
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post Jul 15 2012, 06:43 PM

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i m looking a fridge 431L Sharp RM1800 black mirror....is it good deal....sharp ok ke?
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post Jul 16 2012, 11:20 AM

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ozak, have you decided on the fridge?
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post Jul 16 2012, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Jul 16 2012, 11:20 AM)
ozak, have you decided on the fridge?
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I haven't decise on the fridge. I not yet know the kitchen cabinet design, size and space dimension. You need to have nice fridge to blend to your kicthen cabinet.

But my favour is panasonic with around 400liter inverter.
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post Jul 16 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 16 2012, 12:42 PM)
I haven't decise on the fridge. I not yet know the kitchen cabinet design, size and space dimension. You need to have nice fridge to blend to your kicthen cabinet.

But my favour is panasonic with around 400liter inverter.
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When are you buying ya? I trust your judgement so I'm waiting for your review and feedback
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post Jul 16 2012, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Jul 16 2012, 01:19 PM)
When are you buying ya? I trust your judgement so I'm waiting for your review and feedback
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My 14yrs old panasonic fridge is start sucking power already. Noise getting louder. Home ministry complain too small. Time to renovate. sad.gif All this perfect match up to get a new fridge. tongue.gif

My main critical point is energy saving. Others, past to home ministry.
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post Jul 17 2012, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Jul 16 2012, 01:19 PM)
When are you buying ya? I trust your judgement so I'm waiting for your review and feedback
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agree....biggrin.gif


Added on July 17, 2012, 12:40 amcan i believe Sharp fridge, sharp led tv and sharp washing machine????reliable??

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post Jul 17 2012, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 17 2012, 12:34 AM)
agree....biggrin.gif


Added on July 17, 2012, 12:40 amcan i believe Sharp fridge, sharp led tv and sharp washing machine????reliable??
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khieni,

What size of fridge you looking for? Kagami series? Equivalent Hitachi sizes could be cheaper. Try Best Denki. They have clearance sale in some outlets or at least at Tropicana City Mall. Some fridge are going cheap. even small 2 door going for sub RM1000. Display units I think.

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post Jul 17 2012, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Jul 17 2012, 04:06 PM)
khieni,

What size of fridge you looking for? Kagami series? Equivalent Hitachi sizes could be cheaper. Try Best Denki. They have clearance sale in some outlets or at least at Tropicana City Mall. Some fridge are going cheap. even small 2 door going for sub RM1000. Display units I think.
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yes, kagami glass series...i m impressed with the salesman words....but,i need the user view as well...hehe....hitachi better?
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post Jul 17 2012, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 17 2012, 06:03 PM)
yes, kagami glass series...i m impressed with the salesman words....but,i need the user view as well...hehe....hitachi better?
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There is no best brand in this world. Only have the brand which suits u most.. doh.gif
What is the main criteria for u to choosing a fridge? biggrin.gif
If u wanna good looking, there are glass door or modern looks.
If u wanna save electric bill, looks for inverter model.


Added on July 17, 2012, 6:16 pm
QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 16 2012, 11:42 AM)
I haven't decise on the fridge. I not yet know the kitchen cabinet design, size and space dimension. You need to have nice fridge to blend to your kicthen cabinet.

But my favour is panasonic with around 400liter inverter.
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+1. i am also getting panasonic inverter but mine is 600 liter. smile.gif

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post Jul 17 2012, 09:11 PM

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Buy refrigerator really depends on luck. bought samsung RT54EBPN fridge just 2y, now freeze no longer freezing. Technician said internal leaking gas. sad.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 17 2012, 12:34 AM)
agree....biggrin.gif


Added on July 17, 2012, 12:40 amcan i believe Sharp fridge, sharp led tv and sharp washing machine????reliable??
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My humble recommendation
Sharp - Fridge
TV - Definitely Sharp TV Aquos 4C
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post Jul 18 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 17 2012, 06:03 PM)
yes, kagami glass series...i m impressed with the salesman words....but,i need the user view as well...hehe....hitachi better?
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Their equivalent to Sharp in terms of 300-400+ liter capacity has a thoughtful design in the freezer compartment. The ice cube box is detachable. Need more space? just sacrifice the ice cube box for the moment.

Sharp also has Papillion series (400+litre) bottom freezer. But the doors can open left or right ie the have double hinge which allows opening left side or right side at a time.

best to avoid bewitched by sales pitch. rather go store to store and develop opinion base on problems with brands based on feedback.
best is to go see a fridge and refrigerator on the inside and visualize how space will be filled up.

apart from mfg defect (touch wood) also sometimes problems could be attributed to oursevles so even my opinion could be clouded since if i'm not aware that i did not leave breathing space for fridge to sweat it out since i like to flush the space used tight tight then that might not take into account that i'm overworking my fridge so i will say this brand not reliable. or i could be cramming it tightly that cold air cannot flow evenly leaving frost spots for ice to form. worst still is at the mouth of the vent. that would cause the air inside the vent to freeze. this would overwork the defroster and evaporator and set out a whole chain of events much like NatGeo 'Seconds from disaster'. take opinions with a pinch of salt. icon_rolleyes.gif


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