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post Jun 19 2012, 01:54 PM

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I'm looking at Hitachi R-W720EM. Normally what is the lifespan of a hitachi fridge of this type? If lifespan is short, I'll buy a cheaper, smaller one since I dont need this size at this stage

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post Jul 8 2012, 12:19 PM

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If the freezer is at the bottom n the fan is also at the bottom n considering that cold air ia heavier it should theorectically mean that it takes a little longer to cool the top part, ya? Vs having a top freezer with fan on top n cool air just goes to the bottom easily. Not saying that bottom freezer takes very long.. Just saying the rate of cooling is slower, but the differemce may be so small that it is negligible. What about fan n mechanism lifespan?
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post Jul 8 2012, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 8 2012, 02:28 PM)
It doesn't effect at all. The purpose of freezer design below is the frequent of use and your most convenient use from certain manufacturing sturdy. The new design drawer freezer do give better efficiency and save some cold lost.

The front door fridge is not efficient and lost a lot of cold air when door open. The cold air will flow out as door front door open. Which cold air is heavier. As the bottom drawer type, the air can't flow out much more. Cause cold air don't rise.

The most efficiency fridge is modify those freezer as fridge. Those top open door freezer where mostly use for restaurant and wet market. Put some thermostats and set to fridge temperature. It save your bill a lot.
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Hmmm..but considering that the freezer is not open as often as the non-freezer section, the lost is to the minimum..For me, I open the non freezer part more, which would mean i lose cold air from there more. Considering that the cold air is where the fan is which is wherever the freezer is, and that cold air is heavier and travels downward, i would 'benefit' a little more if the non freezer part is at the bottom; As it cools much easily then if the cold air were to move upwards. Again, this is just a thought, but yes i agree that drawers loses less cold air then front doors since it acts as a barier and cold air couldnt travel any lower if the freezer were to be at the bottom. Unlike side by side which has dual fan, the top-bottom only has one...Haih...buy fridge also so mah fan...and I thought renovation was difficult..buy fridge also so hard...

I think if ppl give me fridge as a house warming gift..i wouldn't mind any type....LOL

I'm going back and forth between the new Panasonic inverter fridge (bottom freezer), hitachi 4 door top-bottom and the samsung 2 door..grandma say freezer at the bottom kids can pull and toddlers these days if not watch would climb inside and sometimesafter we take a handfull of stuff just turn and kick the door close...LOL..grandma trying to scare me..

Was thinking about the top-bottom hitachi 4 door because the door clearance needed is smaller compared to the full size door...then I dont have to worry about the space from table top to the island..
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post Jul 9 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jul 9 2012, 09:10 AM)
Panasonic is coming up with a top freezer soon by this year definitely. Wait if you are not in hurry.
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Really? Then I'll wait. Any indication on teh differences?
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post Jul 9 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 9 2012, 02:38 AM)
The cold air lost mainly is cause by the door type. Front door type open will have more cold air lost. Due to cold air heavier and intend to flow out downward. Doesn't matter the freezer ontop or below. You can stand beside the fridge and try open the door. You can see the cold air cloud rush out downward. Either you open the freezer or fridge side, it still lost amount of cold air. Very much depend on how fast you close back the door and don't let the temperature rise further.

The design of freezer drawer type at bottom have 2 advantage from my oppinion. It reduce your squarting and poking into the freezer to look for something. It is difficult for older people. Squarting and looking forward is difficult. While bending and look downward is much more eassier if a drawer type. Another advantage is the minimum cold air lost for the drawer type.

But I find out also, the drawer type of freezer have lesser space than the front door type. The drawer occupy some space.

Again as I said, top door open freezer is the most efficeint. As cold air don't rise.

Side by side front door open is the waste space from my opinion. The center divider occupy a lot of space. And cause the design of the fridge to be wider. But recently I found out a brand name Beko fridge where there is no center divider for side by side door. The fridge have a high rating energy saving compare others same size. Even more energy saving than the smaller size. The fridge have 3 frezzer drawer below and fridge ontop. It is almost perfect fridge for me. But not the price. sweat.gif

I would like to go for the new design where freezer drawer at below and look for most energy saving. If inverter can save, why not. It is difficult for me to break away from the traditional freezer ontop. It look strange freezer at bottom.
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Thanks Ozak..good point..I guess it goes back to preferences, I was looking at Hitachi for the same reason you talked about for BEKO, I didnt look for side by side mainly because I think it is a waste of space, and I was thinking that i couldnt fit a 2kg ice-cream cake in there too..LOL Hitachi 4 door has no center divider too, but freezer is on top.

The other thing about drawer freezer is that, I would need to stack my grocery a little more than i have to with the shelves type (top or bottom). There is a divider in the drawers, but I would still be stacking fish and chicken and meat on top of each other. Just my own usage that is. Looking at my mum's fridge during festive season..whoa..so much stuff man, and would be difficult to plan the stacking. Say I stack the chicken and meat at the bottom and fish, squid, abalone, prawns on top, when she wants to cook, she would have to remove so many stuff to get to the bigger ones at the bottom. And to avoid them being 'dented' everything much be in containers and tupperware, which i think occupies space also..

I would generally still be stacking with those shelves freezer, but i could segregate the big and small with the shelves..I would love a fridge with bottom freezer but of shelves and not drawers, and I would love one with french door with no divider in the middle...I think samsung has it...but so costly leh...torn between models and price also..but samsung is not an inverter unit i think...
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post Jul 16 2012, 11:20 AM

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ozak, have you decided on the fridge?
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post Jul 16 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 16 2012, 12:42 PM)
I haven't decise on the fridge. I not yet know the kitchen cabinet design, size and space dimension. You need to have nice fridge to blend to your kicthen cabinet.

But my favour is panasonic with around 400liter inverter.
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When are you buying ya? I trust your judgement so I'm waiting for your review and feedback
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post Jul 19 2012, 06:31 PM

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Halcyon27, how much did u buy it for? I'm looking at hitachi 720em, this may be a better buy
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post Jan 3 2013, 01:17 PM

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Ozak, I am still missing a fridge, have you set your eyes on one?
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post Jan 3 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 3 2013, 02:44 PM)
My budget when to new TV already.  cry.gif

Recently when to senq jalan2. Saw some new sharp fridge range with french door type.And bottom frezzer Quite nice amd reasonable price. I haven't check the detail power consumption and spec.

Go take a look.
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Ok, I'll check, but I prefer non-french door because I want to fit Ice-Cream cake in the freezer...I'm also still missing a TV and washing machine too..At least settle the air-con. Thanks!
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post Jan 3 2013, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 3 2013, 03:02 PM)
Your ice-cream cake can fit easlly into french door type frezzer. Just choose the non drawer type.

Last mth is year end sale for most of the big electrical manufacturing. Many sale and freebie. No go for hunt?
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Cake with box cannot go in, cake without box can..or smaller cake also can..I like 2 door top and bottom, so 4 door fridge..but its so costly..

Last mth in Shanghai for work -___-!

 

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