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post Jul 18 2012, 02:21 PM

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ussually inverter tahan lame or not... pipu keep telling me inverter indeed save energy but cepat rosak. close example is aircond with inverter.
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post Jul 18 2012, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Jul 18 2012, 12:46 PM)
Their equivalent to Sharp in terms of 300-400+ liter capacity has a thoughtful design in the freezer compartment. The ice cube box is detachable. Need more space? just sacrifice the ice cube box for the moment.

Sharp also has Papillion series (400+litre) bottom freezer. But the doors can open left or right ie the have double hinge which allows opening left side or right side at a time.

best to avoid bewitched by sales pitch. rather go store to store and develop opinion base on problems with brands based on feedback.
best is to go see a fridge and refrigerator on the inside and visualize how space will be filled up.

apart from mfg defect (touch wood) also sometimes problems could be attributed to oursevles so even my opinion could be clouded since if i'm not aware that i did not leave breathing space for fridge to sweat it out since i like to flush the space used tight tight then that might not take into account that i'm overworking my fridge so i will say this brand not reliable. or i could be cramming it tightly that cold air cannot flow evenly leaving frost spots for ice to form. worst still is at the mouth of the vent. that would cause the air inside the vent to freeze. this would overwork the defroster and evaporator and set out a whole chain of events much like NatGeo 'Seconds from disaster'. take opinions with a pinch of salt.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 19 2012, 11:19 AM

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Sharp Quatro Series SJF78SPBK http://www.sharp.com.my/product.php?ProductID=SJF78SPBK is it ok? im surely like the design but i barely know the pro & cons bout the product.anyone?
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post Jul 19 2012, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(rought2208 @ Jul 19 2012, 11:19 AM)
Sharp Quatro Series SJF78SPBK http://www.sharp.com.my/product.php?ProductID=SJF78SPBK is it ok? im surely like the design but i barely know the pro & cons bout the product.anyone?
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These are nice french door bottom freezer fridge since 70% activity revolves around the fridge. No need to bend down to get things. They are upgrade of first generation four door pillarless SJ-F75 series in that their doors are rodded and their lights are LED and a newer deodorizer. Net volume is 605l (Fridge 394, freezer 211). I know because that's what I use. Minister of home affairs says fridge must be large enough to cater for parties and family. Wide space afforded can put cake since it's about 70cm wide internal storage width.

Electrolux has EQE-6307SA (629l) which is 4 cm deeper than Sharp's but looks similar in appearance to the SJ-F78 one. Most probably they could OEM from Beko which could have a similar design but lower energy consumption than the Sharp.

Despite their capacity, one drawback of the first (SJ-F75PS/E) and second generation (SJ-F78SPBK/SL) Quattro are:
1. They are quite power consuming. Annual energy consumption shown here is 894Wh (same with Electrolux EQE-6307SA) and 803kWh respectively. Roughly about 74.5 or 67 units of electricity a month. The new Hitachi R-B6800M annual consumption is 260kWh. Roughly 22 units per month. But the Hitachi fridge is almost RM9k similar to Beko models of the capacity range. But of course, the capacity of the fridge and freezer compartment differs individually for each model depending on which method is used to calculate volume (ISO or JIS).

Wait for the new Avance models to be introduced. Jintex is carrying them end of July 2012.
Common features:
Wide interior of 78cm compared to 70cm of first and second generation. Possibly using advance insulation like vacuum insulated panel (VIP)??? similar to that in the Hitachi R-B6800M and one of Panasonic's inverter NRF532TX. VIP are quite thermal efficient than polyurethane (PU).
Control panel now touch screen on top left leaf(door), hassle free ice making reservoir on bottom right of fridge.
Ice making cleaning mode (Ag+ ions), Crystal ice making (go figure)
Eco mode - saves 10% electricity.

SJ-F99BK 750l
SJF-93MSL/MWH 750l
SJF-96SSL/SBK 750l

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Jul 19 2012, 01:30 PM
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post Jul 19 2012, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Jul 19 2012, 01:06 PM)
These are nice french door bottom freezer fridge since 70% activity revolves around the fridge. No need to bend down to get things. They are upgrade of first generation four door pillarless SJ-F75 series in that their doors are rodded and their lights are LED and a newer deodorizer. Net volume is 605l (Fridge 394, freezer 211). I know because that's what I use. Minister of home affairs says fridge must be large enough to cater for parties and family. Wide space afforded can put cake since it's about 70cm wide internal storage width.

Electrolux has EQE-6307SA (629l) which is 4 cm deeper than Sharp's but looks similar in appearance to the SJ-F78 one. Most probably they could OEM from Beko which could have a similar design but lower energy consumption than the Sharp.

Despite their capacity, one drawback of the first (SJ-F75PS/E) and second generation (SJ-F78SPBK/SL) Quattro are:
1. They are quite power consuming. Annual energy consumption shown here is 894Wh (same with Electrolux EQE-6307SA) and 803kWh respectively. Roughly about 74.5 or 67 units of electricity a month. The new Hitachi R-B6800M annual consumption is 260kWh. Roughly 22 units per month. But the Hitachi fridge is almost RM9k similar to Beko models of the capacity range. But of course, the capacity of the fridge and freezer compartment differs individually for each model depending on which method is used to calculate volume (ISO or JIS).

Wait for the new Avance models to be introduced. Jintex is carrying them end of July 2012.
Common features:
Wide interior of 78cm compared to 70cm of first and second generation. Possibly using advance insulation like vacuum insulated panel (VIP)??? similar to that in the Hitachi R-B6800M and one of Panasonic's inverter NRF532TX. VIP are quite thermal efficient than polyurethane (PU).
Control panel now touch screen on top left leaf(door), hassle free ice making reservoir on bottom right of fridge.
Ice making cleaning mode (Ag+ ions), Crystal ice making (go figure)
Eco mode - saves 10% electricity.

SJ-F99BK 750l
SJF-93MSL/MWH 750l
SJF-96SSL/SBK 750l
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wow....thank you so much for your info.....just call Sharp. They having a road show on their new model of fridge and others appliances at Sunway Pyramid. Can't wait to see the Avance model.
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post Jul 19 2012, 06:31 PM

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Halcyon27, how much did u buy it for? I'm looking at hitachi 720em, this may be a better buy
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post Jul 19 2012, 10:59 PM

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I am looking for the side by side door refrigerator. May I know which brand is good? I shortlisted the following brand:

Samsung - Look very nice and cheap but not sure quality
Hitachi or Sharp - Feature almost similar. I presume quality also should be OK. Can share which is better?
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post Jul 19 2012, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(bat11 @ Jul 19 2012, 10:59 PM)
I am looking for the side by side door refrigerator. May I know which brand is good? I shortlisted the following brand:

Samsung - Look very nice and cheap but not sure quality
Hitachi or Sharp - Feature almost similar. I presume quality also should be OK. Can share which is better?
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Dun buy Samsung, the salesman told me no good....but i havent experienced it before.........
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post Jul 19 2012, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Jul 18 2012, 12:46 PM)
Their equivalent to Sharp in terms of 300-400+ liter capacity has a thoughtful design in the freezer compartment. The ice cube box is detachable. Need more space? just sacrifice the ice cube box for the moment.

Sharp also has Papillion series (400+litre) bottom freezer. But the doors can open left or right ie the have double hinge which allows opening left side or right side at a time.

best to avoid bewitched by sales pitch. rather go store to store and develop opinion base on problems with brands based on feedback.
best is to go see a fridge and refrigerator on the inside and visualize how space will be filled up.

apart from mfg defect (touch wood) also sometimes problems could be attributed to oursevles so even my opinion could be clouded since if i'm not aware that i did not leave breathing space for fridge to sweat it out since i like to flush the space used tight tight then that might not take into account that i'm overworking my fridge so i will say this brand not reliable. or i could be cramming it tightly that cold air cannot flow evenly leaving frost spots for ice to form. worst still is at the mouth of the vent. that would cause the air inside the vent to freeze. this would overwork the defroster and evaporator and set out a whole chain of events much like NatGeo 'Seconds from disaster'. take opinions with a pinch of salt.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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The Papilllon series is the same with Butterfly series? http://www.sharp.com.my/product.php?ProductID=SJWS400THS
Anyone know the price for the 400L?
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post Jul 20 2012, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(Kelv @ Jul 19 2012, 11:45 PM)
The Papilllon series is the same with Butterfly series? http://www.sharp.com.my/product.php?ProductID=SJWS400THS
Anyone know the price for the 400L?
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Same. HN sell it back then for RM3399 last year. But other 400l going around for less than that.

Could be cheaper if display. Try places in SS2 like Megatronics or Jintex, could be cheaper there if you're in PJ.

Good luck hunting

[edit: could also consider the Panasonic 2012 Eco Navi model NR-BW465XS (RM2499) and Inverter NR-BW415VN (RM1999) both gross 400-450l range.]


Added on July 20, 2012, 1:40 pm
QUOTE(khieni @ Jul 19 2012, 11:19 PM)
Dun buy Samsung, the salesman told me no good....but i havent experienced it before.........
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Sometimes it's also a tactic by sales to push one and downput the other due to commission structure and how channel account person manage their relationship with sales shops. To be fair, I've friends who have Samsung fridge who hasn't complained. Only read through other forums that sometimes certain models of Korean brands have noisy compressor. Seems like isolated cases.

Actually, I quite like the Samsung bottom freezer models like the RFG28MESL1 but it's wide (908)mm. At 1.8kWh/day (657kWh/yr) at least don't makan letrik like the SJ-F75 750l Sharp's 894kWh. Right now many non-inverter under 500 litre fridge about the same letrik consumption range of 400-500+kWh per year.

But how often we change fridge? Could be good even talk to ppl browsing before and ask them what they had before. Sometimes those who are willing to share will give revealing insights on the products they've used before, what they wish they had done, etc. Learn together ma.

Often, one issue I hear is which compartment has more priority when looking for one - fridge or freezer. Some even shared that because of their dietary habits, a freezer is more important so they have a storage/chest freezer and smaller or midsized fridge. They then keep their fridge freezer at minimum like -14 cos meat not stored in there but lots of ice and bread (some do that). Because the big freezer is not so often accessed, they save letrik also.

Tips on fridge or freezer
Happy hunting!

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Jul 20 2012, 02:42 PM
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post Aug 21 2012, 08:50 PM

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Planning to get a 500L size fridge, any good recomended model?

I prefer 2 door type, freezer on top.

Thanks all sifus in advanced.


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post Aug 24 2012, 09:22 PM

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im looking at both Hitachi R-Z420EM(SLS) and Sharp SJ429SSL
anyone mind to comment on both of these?

i see Hitachi R-Z420EM and R-Z420EMSLS, not too sure if there is any different between these 2?

from their official website, not much info

Hitachi R-Z420EM
http://hitachiconsumer.com.my/index.php/re...tor/#product_48

Sharp SJ429SSL
http://www.sharp.com.my/product.php?ProductID=SJ429SSL

thanks
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post Aug 26 2012, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(Putraskyline @ Aug 7 2008, 01:34 PM)
I bought 2 new inverter panasonic but the other aircond are not having inverter and also its hard to track usage for monthly bill for aircond. tongue.gif
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Hi, do you feel any differences between with or without inverter air-cond? is the inverter one comfortable at nite?

My friend bought it, and said on & off working at nite, sometimes feels hot, is that true?

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post Aug 27 2012, 11:49 AM

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I’ve a Samsung 2 doors refrigerator, like 5~7 years now, didn’t remember the exact model, we like it very much, cool and quiet. I think the Silver Nano coating is great way to keep the fruits fresh and de-odor too, sometime we put Durian in the frige, the Durian smell is gone by the next day.
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Guys .. I am planning to buy a new fridge for tenant of 6 to use...
Kindly recommend size/liter & best economical brand ...
My location PJ old town ..
Thanks in advance, smile.gif
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post Sep 16 2012, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(blasto @ Aug 29 2012, 01:20 AM)
Guys .. I am planning to buy a new fridge for tenant of 6 to use...
Kindly recommend size/liter & best economical brand ...
My location PJ old town ..
Thanks in advance, smile.gif
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used? thats what I use for some of my tenants. esp the one where the rentals are lower


Added on September 16, 2012, 1:04 am
QUOTE(blasto @ Aug 29 2012, 01:20 AM)
Guys .. I am planning to buy a new fridge for tenant of 6 to use...
Kindly recommend size/liter & best economical brand ...
My location PJ old town ..
Thanks in advance, smile.gif
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Used? sometimes thats what I do for some of my units which rent out at cheaper price


Added on September 16, 2012, 1:38 am
QUOTE(jl_eleven @ Apr 17 2012, 05:33 PM)
I just ordered a mitsubishi mr-f62c from happy household ss2 for rm2100. It's the best selling model in Singapore. Really good price.
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Chief, how's your mitsu doing?

Im currently deciding between a mitsu and a panasonic about 500 liters.

ANyways for say a fridge that size, whats the difference in electricity between and inverter and non? anyone know?

This post has been edited by ruben7389: Sep 16 2012, 01:38 AM
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post Sep 18 2012, 01:01 PM

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i bought new, samsung 2 door/200 liter @ rm799 coz most 1door aldy cost 750+.
takut used fridge got problem, saya no face blush.gif furthermore its for muslim & mix tenants, peace of mind for me. (thats worth investing for) icon_rolleyes.gif
planning to buy another soon drool.gif

[quote=ruben7389,Sep 16 2012, 01:03 AM]
used? thats what I use for some of my tenants. esp the one where the rentals are lower


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QUOTE(RoxyMunky @ Aug 21 2012, 08:50 PM)
Planning to get a 500L size fridge, any good recomended model?

I prefer 2 door type, freezer on top.

Thanks all sifus in advanced.
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Toshiba GR-R48MD/ GR-R72MD will be good choice.
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QUOTE(Titan_Gunners @ Sep 18 2012, 03:40 PM)
Toshiba GR-R48MD/ GR-R72MD will be good choice.
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Samsung this model is good too.
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/home-ap...r/RT72SBPN1/XME
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Oct 1 2012, 07:54 PM)
Hehe..Open a new thread for toshiba fridge after suggest to get Samsung fridge... notworthy.gif


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