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 Subwoofer Discussion Thread, A thread for things that go BOOOOMMM!!!

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dirtrun
post Oct 15 2008, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(callmevil @ Oct 14 2008, 05:07 PM)
lol what they didnt mention maybe is.. its easier to bottom the svs than the spl.. haha
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Really,

Could it be, u hv calibrated ur sub a trifle hot?? cool2.gif cool2.gif


QUOTE(arj @ Oct 14 2008, 08:06 PM)
But then again, the SPL is over RM2k more expensive compared to your SVS when compared using Malaysian prices. Cepat2 get the Ultra so that you can do another round of comparison drool.gif
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Now I dont tink de Ultra is musical, either .. even SvS knows tat .. if u wan a musical sub , u r better off wif de sealed SBS..

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post Oct 15 2008, 02:31 PM

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Today is subwoofer mod-day.. (since last night actually). Damping the enclosure with bitumen, silicone sealant and approved acoustic sponge.
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post Oct 15 2008, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Oct 15 2008, 10:38 AM)
Really,

Could it be, u hv calibrated ur sub a trifle hot??  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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haha calibrated@similar db
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post Oct 15 2008, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(callmevil @ Oct 15 2008, 04:35 PM)
haha calibrated@similar db
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Ahah..

In tat case .. de only reason is also why my neighbor is still talkin to me.. kekeke biggrin.gif

Man.. I wouldnt like to be ur neighbor woh..
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post Oct 15 2008, 09:43 PM

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After weeks of painful wait, it finally reached my doorstep :

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post Oct 15 2008, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 15 2008, 09:43 PM)
After weeks of painful wait, it finally reached my doorstep :

My new toy
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hahhaha comment on the other thread but.. GRATS MANNN beautiful toy ! hehehe now to piss ur neighbours off and wake up some dogs.. haha

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my neighbour is a good distance away from my house so.. no worries there hehe
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post Oct 16 2008, 08:45 AM

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need to ask the gurus, in my Denon amp there is this setting for Woofer which is LFE or LFE+Main.
what setting should i decide and base on what ?
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post Oct 16 2008, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Oct 16 2008, 08:45 AM)
need to ask the gurus, in my Denon amp there is this setting for Woofer which is LFE or LFE+Main.
what setting should i decide and base on what ?
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I guess it's the same setting as "Both" in Yamaha, and "Double Bass" in Onkyo.

My advise is to use the "LFE+Main" only if you have a full range/band front speakers. It means the crossover setting will not be applied to the front speakers, and if there's a LFE channel it will be sent to both the front speakers and the subwoofer.

For Onkyo, you can even select the "Double Bass" if your fronts not set as "Full Band".


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post Oct 16 2008, 10:20 AM

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i also got my replacement sub 2 days ago due to faulty remote-the third one from a&l. good service. haha
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post Oct 16 2008, 12:16 PM

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Got a friend using SPL1200R but he aint a member here. Mega, bila ada senang?
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post Oct 16 2008, 04:24 PM

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post Oct 16 2008, 04:37 PM

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post Oct 16 2008, 04:50 PM

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I almost forgoten that i'm supposed to upgrade my sub. I think i'm running out of poison in upgrades ..

Oh yea, about the LFE to both or just sub.
Crossover is always there where the LFE will automatically be channeled to the sub. By running in mains+sub you're acctually forcing the the mains to churn out to it's limits. (am I wrong?)
If you set it to just sub, anything below the crossover will be transfered to your sub. (correct?)
If you find that your mains are not strugling in the lower freqs then run both, it tends to feel wider.
I set mine to SUB only thou.

htkaki,
you going to run double cht12r in near future??
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post Oct 16 2008, 05:32 PM

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No, I am going to use my near-to-death sub at the back (apparently, it is ok a bit now doh.gif ) and CHT-12R at the forefront.

I set 1800 at 'LFE + Main' as my floorstanders can go real low and it integrates well.
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post Oct 16 2008, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Oct 16 2008, 09:41 AM)
I guess it's the same setting as "Both" in Yamaha, and "Double Bass" in Onkyo.

My advise is to use the "LFE+Main" only if you have a full range/band front speakers. It means the crossover setting will not be applied to the front speakers, and if there's a LFE channel it will be sent to both the front speakers and the subwoofer.

For Onkyo, you can even select the "Double Bass" if your fronts not set as "Full Band".


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What do you mean by full range/band front speakers.. Mine is AE Neo Floorstanding speaker. Right now I have adjust a few settings. Currently using LFE and all the Speaker was set as "Small".

Gonna change it to LFE+Main as advised. just follow , don't know what im doing..haha!!! sweat.gif
Just follow the pro .

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post Oct 17 2008, 11:21 AM

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Dear sifu's and kor kor ,
Can anyone tell me what is this :

1) Low pass
2) Phase

How should i set it ? Thanks notworthy.gif


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post Oct 17 2008, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Oct 16 2008, 06:07 PM)
What do you mean by full range/band front speakers.. Mine is AE Neo Floorstanding speaker. Right now I have adjust a few settings. Currently using LFE and all the Speaker was set as "Small".

Gonna change it to LFE+Main as advised. just follow , don't know what im doing..haha!!! sweat.gif
Just follow the pro .
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Only full range speakers can be set as "Large" or "Full Band" so that no LF crossover is done. Full range speakers mean it can produce the lowest frequencies, at least down to 30Hz. With this speaker, you theoretically don't need a subwoofer anymore as they can handle the LFE and you don't have to do any LF crossover to it. But even with this speaker, subwoofer can still be used to add more punch and grunts to the bass, especially for movies. This is when you must set the AVR as "LFE+Main".

Do not set "LFE+Main" if your front speakers are not full range, it will hurt the speakers. Set "Small" speakers, and set "LFE" only on Denon, "SW Only" for Yamaha. For Onkyo turn off "Full Band" and "Double Bass" will automatically be turned off.


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post Oct 17 2008, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Oct 17 2008, 11:21 AM)
Dear sifu's and kor kor ,
Can anyone tell me what is this :

1) Low pass
2) Phase

How should i set it ? Thanks  notworthy.gif
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Lowpass = Crossover
Phase = the direction where u place your sub....
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post Oct 17 2008, 04:25 PM

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i tot we normally set to LFE only, which just let the sub to handle the lows, which means the sub will only do work when a low frequency hit the notes, and stop working when no real low..
this is to take advantage of a more clearer vocal and much more cripsy sound from the front pairing...especially u have a full range front speaker...

if u set it to MAIN + LFE, den the the front pairing will throw out everything together with the sub woking full load...which resulted a loud but rather rojak noise...lack the precision
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post Oct 17 2008, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(swine @ Oct 17 2008, 04:25 PM)
i tot we normally set to LFE only, which just let the sub to handle the lows, which means the sub will only do work when a low frequency hit the notes, and stop working when no real low..
this is to take advantage of a more clearer vocal and much more cripsy sound from the front pairing...especially u have a full range front speaker...

if u set it to MAIN + LFE, den the the front pairing will throw out everything together with the sub woking full load...which resulted a loud but rather rojak noise...lack the precision
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It's an option, you don't have to select "LFE+Main" if you don't want to. It's just that if you have full range speakers, you can. This comes back to each own's listening taste, some people like more bass.

My main point here, if you don't have full range speakers, don't select "LFE+Main", just select "LFE" only and set the proper crossover. This will avoid your speakers from trying to produce the low frequencies that it can't do, thus avoiding damage.

This post has been edited by aiman04: Oct 17 2008, 04:38 PM

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