SvS - but unfortunately its not cheap in Bolehland..

Hi,

Just glanced thru' n now c got an active SvS forummer contributin on de wonders of tis brand ah.. gud gud..

Enjoy..
Dirtrun

Hi,

Actually its not (u should c de 16/46 PC units, lagi intimidating..) SvS has a very unique way of namin their subs.. a 20/39 P C Plus stands for

1. 20 - 20 hz freq resp : means its capable to go so low

2. 39 - is de height of de unit in inches : 39 inches - slightly above 3ft or approx ly 1mtr

3. P - I dont know wat tis stands for : probbly nuthin

4. C - Cylinder .... If B would be Box

5. +/Plus is their woofer/amp configuration as SvS has 3 ranges namely ISDN or I ; +/Plus is de next range n ; finally U for Ultra , their topmost range..

Hope tis clears up most confusion by lookin at their codes..

Cheers
Dirtrun

Bro,

39in in ht only but footprint is only slghtly bigger then de woofer size itself which if not mistaken is ard an inch both sides out from de 12inch woofer .. so it actually takes up less floor area then a 10inch box sub..

I wanted de cylinders when I bot my pb12 but SvS didnt ship them overseas then..

Cheers
Dirtrun

Haha,

I wont hv asked for opinions then.. just ask to credit my cc n send de Ultra.. besides headroom is always appreciated n if u happen to change to a bigger room..

But for mere mortals like moi .. well its always a look at de bank balance n well de rest is history..

Enjoy
Dirtrun

Haha,

I dont hv a workin digicam - spent all my money on HT gear liao...kekeke

But I think I hv posted sum pics here a long time ago.. dunno still got or not???

Cheers
Dirtrun

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Added on September 12, 2008, 9:50 amUhm,

There are physics behind de designs of subs -

1. de bigger box is for internal bracin n oso non resonant(thicker=better) materials.. I tink svs uses 2/3inch mdfs/wood plus internal braces

2. bigger driver - lower freq response . So ideally de bigger de driver de better performance

3. Bigger power - amps tat hv got higher power can make de sub go lower eg there is a small cube sub . forgot wats its called liao - uses only 8/10driver n like 1000wt amp n is very good .. sumtin supercube, if not mistaken oso its very small..

Oh ya on music subs n HT subs.. on paper, music subs nid not go so low - a double bass can go how low - 40/50hz ?? N most music subs are not ported for better control - no ports cannot go lo but better control.. uh not promotin la but svs oso got non ported sub for music purposes n its small only - much smaller than de HT models.. better WAF, maybe??

Cheers
Dirtrun

This post has been edited by dirtrun: Sep 12 2008, 09:50 AM

Aiyo bros,

We each got our cake mah.. bro aiman got tua gong avr mah n bro mega is taukeh bd's so can watch all bds liao..

We still nid to choose cos not enuff money to buy all..

Cheers
Dirtrun

Hi,

1. SvS has been ard for a long time now - more than 5yrs.. I tink.. dunno abt velodyne thou'

2. Its only here tat SvS is mentioned wif de likes of REL .. in fact REL is way way more exp then SvS. SvS started as a specialist sub producer tat can deliver for HT fans but wif a lo price - at least lo in de US la , it went online sales only to cut costs in dealership fees n so forth.. n de North Americans lapped it up n if not mistaken sum sgporeans brought one or 2 in n then d craze started.. to be fair if u dont counter shippin cost into d picture, d pb10 is quite affordable n it is a decent entry sub..
Go into AVS or any HT forums to check n u ll see tat SvS is not de premium brand but more like best bang for buck order..

Just my 2 cts
Dirtrun

Haha,

There are ways ard payin top dollar for shippin... but it encounters a lot of trust, faith and help from ppl - sumtimes thru strangers even.. tats where de faith part cums in.. kekeke
Cant really blame de shippers cos they weigh quite a fair bit.. my pb12+ is 110lbs for sub alone ; plus packagin I tink it was 60kgs, it even came wif a palette base stuck to de box.. I tink d cylinders r lighter but still bulky as hell..

Performance is mainly for HT .. I wouldnt go so far as to say tat SvS is great for music.. passable maybe but not great.. I know a guy who bought 2 pb10s for stereo line in use n listens to classical but I tink he sold them cos he didnt quite like it... like I said previously if wanna musical sub get de sealed units..

Cheers
Dirtrun

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Added on September 12, 2008, 4:24 pmCompact box would mean a huge amp is needed n tat in turn would not be cheap.. unfortunately if wan perf.. u nid to go to a certain price point..

I dont quite get de convenience in rc's in subs.. granted its convenient but I hv set up my SvS once n never even off de back switch - power off thru mains only so de rc would be redundant after the first settin up/calinration.. but then again I guess I m less fickle n live wif its performance..




This post has been edited by dirtrun: Sep 12 2008, 04:24 PM

Hi,

Yup,

SBS 12+ is a sealed sub , not for HT performance but better wif music, a faster more musical sub if u must.. but yes it is smaller .. much smaller than my Pb12+ thou using same driver.. Freq response if not mistaken is ard 28hz..

Headroom is for when u nid it .. change to a bigger room n ur once adequate 10incher becums lethargic .. oso one more argument is tat since u hv de volume n ability to go lo, u tend to hold back a bit n IMO tat will give de eq a longer life, worth tinkin abt??

Cheers
Dirtrun

U can try Cloverfield..

Great sub workout.. n surrs too..

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Added on September 16, 2008, 4:35 pmOh ya bro J is a spkr diy specialist.. oso a tw700 user too - if he hasnt upgrd to 1080p


This post has been edited by dirtrun: Sep 16 2008, 04:35 PM

Hi,

I tink u can shave a bit off de shippin chrg if u all do an MO n ship to one address..

Sg forummers do tis n get 50% off shippin .. n sumtimes theyll get an additional small % for mulitple sets - 10 n above, I tink..

Cheers
Dirtrun

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Added on September 29, 2008, 2:51 pmTry Hifi Choice..

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Added on September 29, 2008, 2:54 pmYup.. agreed

Its alrdy in de design - whether its front , bottom or push/pull .. I guess if u tink it improves d sound if u put a front firing sub facin down then go ahead but I guess its sumtin like puttin it in a corner trick to add sum oomph..

This post has been edited by dirtrun: Sep 29 2008, 02:55 PM

Heres a link of wat I was referrin to .. SVS Mass Order In Xtremeplace

Ha ha Bro Tim,

Its not cheap la.. can diy wif sum Brothers (car acc shop) sound proofin foam oso..

Kekeke
Dirtrun

Install??

DIY la bro J.. means u do it urself..

Hi,

De superlon foam I m talkin is relatively cheap if anybody wans to diy.. U can try it urself n c if it really makes any diff..
On where to erhm 'install' tis.. well I tink u can try buildin a a 5sided box wif de foam n c... Kekeke LOL

To me .. it dont so I dont bother wif tis.. I plonk my 2 subs on marble slabs n it works for me..

Cheers
Dirtrun

Gee bro,

I dunno.. I dont tink so ..

Normally rattles caused by subs are sound pressure based so isolatin it wont make much diff.. if u r real fanatical abt it, u would hv to isolate de rattlin component n rectivy it one ting at a time..

Rattlin cos by sub spls are very diff to tame..

I know of Southern neighbors changin windows to swing type from slidin ones cos of de rattlin - same wif sliding doors.. trick is to brace de offending rattlin part.. easier said than done thou'..

I jus liv wif it..

Cheers
Dirtrun

I dont hv de velo's but SvS makes great subs for HT.. no doubt abt it.. based on personal user rvws in AVS, ya I tink u can safely say a 12in plus sub will smoke de velo..

Yup..

Mine is de 12plus box.. plain black version - no money for de nice wood ones..


SvS N Hsu are direct competitors, they ll never give to de same dealerla.. they even share almost de same design principles..

But once dealership is set then prices are expected to rise as experienced with aussie n euro markets.. sad but true..