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elnino
post Aug 24 2010, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Aug 23 2010, 10:43 PM)
guys just a question..

should i take MCITP?
i am graduating later this year and major in System Administration
i've learn windows system administration(based on windows server 2008), unix system administration courses and currently taking database admin(based on Oracle)..

and from all the jobs i saw,they prefer MCSE,etc certified and wondering should i take MCITP just for the certificate?
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most corporations are slowly migrating to server 2008 from server 2003. If I were you, i would take MCITP. smile.gif
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post Aug 24 2010, 09:53 AM

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hi everyone,

i'm planning to get the MCSE next year
currently i'm a Tier2 Tech Support working in SC Bank
just start working here for a year (1st job)
hold a Diploma with no professional cert.
joined here as a fresh grad with basic RM2.5k
including the OT here i can get around RM4K+ but it's tiring
so i really need to work on something to get my basic pay increase at least to 3K+ to 4K

i was thinking earlier to continue my study but my friend advised me to go for a professional cert.
so here i am, wondering how should i start. my company is sending me for a course: Designing a Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Active Directory and Network Infrastructure and i figure one this is one of requirement for MCSE. and there are 6 more course i need to attend to (if i'm not mistaken) before i can sit for the MCSE exam. kinda envy my friends that graduated same with me but now their pay is like 5-6k

my question are:
1. will MCSE help me to secure a job in Tier3 role? for example an Exchange Support or AD Support?
2. what other professional cert that can help me in pursuing this role
3. can i get a basic more than 5k with MCSE + experience if i apply for a Tier3 role?

kindly help me coz i'm a bit uncertain of my carreer path overhere..
really appriciate your opinion on this.


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post Aug 24 2010, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(elnino @ Aug 24 2010, 10:28 AM)
most corporations are slowly migrating to server 2008 from server 2003. If I were you, i would take MCITP. smile.gif
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ya, but i've taken the course which i found it related with MCITP in my university..
but should i get MCITP coz what i need is a cert?
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post Sep 13 2010, 09:31 PM

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guys, i am certified with MS under MCSE which i took in 2006. currently i am being off field and doing jobs which has no relation to AD/Client Server Environment and all. however i wish to pursue a career in maintaining MS system and maybe venture into networking as i am still studying part time for my degree

what are my best option? shud i upgarde to MCTS or go for CCNA. as i say earlier i been off it field for the last couple of year and in order to keep competitive and to impress my head hunter/future bos/colleagues i need to get back in shape and earn certification

many thanks
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post Sep 20 2010, 09:59 PM

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Hi guys, did anyone of you know what is the salary rate pay for a Network Engineer in Malaysia ?

I checked in job-street salary report for this position, its stated that normal salary was fresh entry (RM 2250), Junior (RM 2800) and Senior (RM 4000).

If let say i have 2.5 years working experience as a Network Engineer in my current company (support). I have Bachelor Degree in computer science, CCNA, CCNP and one Cisco IP Telephony cert. What is the normal paid for a Network Engineer ?

Is 2.5 years experience is still consider a Junior Executive level ?

This post has been edited by ReginaJune: Sep 20 2010, 10:00 PM
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post Sep 21 2010, 12:30 PM

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Does anyone plan to sell MCTS 70-515 Kits, ASP.NET 4.0 books, and any related .NET 4.0 books ?

If so, pm me.. Thank you.
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post Sep 22 2010, 03:36 AM

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Hello everyone,

Anyone here took the CCNA composite exam 640-802 before ? Mind sharing your experince. Im gonna take the exam soon, self-study at the moment.
Any suggestion on where to take the exam, any exam centre araund KL ?


Thanks.. nod.gif
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post Nov 8 2010, 11:11 PM

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hi everyone!!!!!!!!


need some help here!!!!

currently im taking my Diploma in IT at APIIT... I am going to finish the course soon probably in 3 to 4 months time...
Im interested on hacking...but currently I know some basics which I still feel that i know nothing about hacking...
I want to learn more and take professional certs... Anyone can introduce to me or guide me through??
should i take CEH 1st or????then whats after that...


thank you in advance!!!! biggrin.gif

-lost IT boy-
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post Nov 9 2010, 12:28 PM

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blurzzz, go take CCIE la
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post Nov 29 2010, 01:14 PM

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hi guys, i'm interested in undergoing a ITIL training. So I searched abit and I found 2 places that offer the course

ITIL V3 foundation
1) The alc group
http://www.alctraining.com.my/course_index.php?sched=0
.The fee is RM3300
FEES INCLUDE lunch, morning and afternoon tea, and all course materials.

2)ITSM expertise sdn bhd
http://www.itilmalaysia.com/
the fee is 2995.
inclusive of exam, student manual and meals.


So the same course but different rate. Anyone has any idea what is the difference here. Is the ALC group provide better training compare to ITSM?
Obviously for me ITSM is more appealing since you pay less but it includes your exam as well.
Or anyone can suggest me other training center. Thanks
raymondha
post Jan 21 2011, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(asha24 @ Sep 22 2010, 03:36 AM)
Hello everyone,

Anyone here took the CCNA composite exam 640-802  before ? Mind sharing your experince. Im gonna take the exam soon, self-study at the moment.
Any suggestion on where to take the exam, any exam centre araund KL ?
Thanks.. nod.gif
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there is a lot of autho exam center .


Added on January 21, 2011, 11:43 am
QUOTE(blurzz @ Nov 8 2010, 11:11 PM)
hi everyone!!!!!!!!
need some help here!!!!

currently im taking my Diploma in IT at APIIT... I am going to finish the course soon probably in 3 to 4 months time...
Im interested on hacking...but currently I know some basics which I still feel that i know nothing about hacking...
I want to learn more and take professional certs... Anyone can introduce to me or guide me through??
should i take CEH 1st or????then whats after that...
thank you in advance!!!! biggrin.gif

-lost IT boy-
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ceh is the entry level of hacking certification. if u really want to take penetration as ur career then go for it. after this, try those audit firm.


Added on January 21, 2011, 12:00 pm
QUOTE(optyx_spider @ Nov 29 2010, 01:14 PM)
hi guys, i'm interested in undergoing a ITIL training. So I searched abit and I found 2 places that offer the course

ITIL V3 foundation
1) The alc group
http://www.alctraining.com.my/course_index.php?sched=0
.The fee is RM3300
FEES INCLUDE lunch, morning and afternoon tea, and all course materials.

2)ITSM expertise sdn bhd
http://www.itilmalaysia.com/
the fee is 2995.
inclusive of exam, student manual and meals.
So the same course but different rate. Anyone has any idea what is the difference here. Is the ALC group provide better training compare to ITSM?
Obviously for me ITSM is more appealing since you pay less but it includes your exam as well.
Or anyone can suggest me other training center. Thanks
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i only know alc in menara citibank everything also expensive.
global knowledge also charge you rm3300.
try to check infotrek.com in amcorp mall
iverson dont have itil
other training cetner all rm3300.....

This post has been edited by raymondha: Jan 21 2011, 12:00 PM
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post Jan 21 2011, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(ReginaJune @ Sep 20 2010, 09:59 PM)
Hi guys, did anyone of you know what is the salary rate pay for a Network Engineer in Malaysia ?

I checked in job-street salary report for this position, its stated that normal salary was fresh entry (RM 2250), Junior (RM 2800) and Senior (RM 4000).

If let say i have 2.5 years working experience as a Network Engineer in my current company (support). I have Bachelor Degree in computer science, CCNA, CCNP and one Cisco IP Telephony cert. What is the normal paid for a Network Engineer ?

Is 2.5 years experience is still consider a Junior Executive level ?
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You have CCNP and 2.5 years experience in networking field.
I doubt if your salary now is lesser than RM5k?

Mind to reveal how much you are earning now?
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post Jan 21 2011, 04:11 PM

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actually it really depends .. one of my friend is also ccnp, 6 years in networking , but his salary is less than 4k.

my another friend working in hp , also ccnp holder , 6.5k
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post Jan 22 2011, 01:38 PM

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wow this is very good discussion. Reading this page make me to start self study and get cert. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 22 2011, 02:15 PM

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hi, for anyone interested in studying for MCITP, I have the training kit for sale. Got my certification, letting it go at a good price. Check my siggy. Thanks
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post Jan 24 2011, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(optyx_spider @ Nov 29 2010, 01:14 PM)
hi guys, i'm interested in undergoing a ITIL training. So I searched abit and I found 2 places that offer the course

ITIL V3 foundation
1) The alc group
http://www.alctraining.com.my/course_index.php?sched=0
.The fee is RM3300
FEES INCLUDE lunch, morning and afternoon tea, and all course materials.

2)ITSM expertise sdn bhd
http://www.itilmalaysia.com/
the fee is 2995.
inclusive of exam, student manual and meals.
So the same course but different rate. Anyone has any idea what is the difference here. Is the ALC group provide better training compare to ITSM?
Obviously for me ITSM is more appealing since you pay less but it includes your exam as well.
Or anyone can suggest me other training center. Thanks
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Did my ITIL with ALC (DLJ was our trainer).. its paid by the company so I'm not sure about the Fees though.. they came and do an in-house training at our office.. I'd say the training is excellent, though the British accent of the trainer was be a bit hard-to-follow for staff, especially when he's speaking softly.

On the other hand, did my training on SDI's certified Service Desk Analyst certification with ITSM expert sdn bhd (Tony was the trainer). Its a smaller company and they held the training at one of the hotels in PJ. Training is also excellent - we skipped most of the ITIL content in SDI because we already know them and still pass the exam.

However I think both courses above are quite expensive to be taken at your own expense - try convincing your company to sponsor it!

Certification is crucial in landing a job, in negotiating your basic pay etc, but for the rest of your career, the most important thing however is not certification - but knowing how to do your job, showing initiative & interest in the job, and dont assume that since you know a lot, you know everything already.. there is always something new to learn & discover.. I have colleagues with extensive certifications but is clueless when it comes to technical things, and colleagues who are very knowledgeable and because of that, they think there's no need to learn anything new, and end up getting outdated.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

Cheers!
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post Jan 24 2011, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(elnino @ Jan 22 2011, 02:15 PM)
hi, for anyone interested in studying for MCITP, I have the training kit for sale. Got my certification, letting it go at a good price. Check my siggy. Thanks
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when i saw your thread and i found the status is sold .. too bad.
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post Jan 24 2011, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(lordskarn @ Jan 24 2011, 08:02 AM)
Did my ITIL with ALC (DLJ was our trainer).. its paid by the company so I'm not sure about the Fees though.. they came and do an in-house training at our office.. I'd say the training is excellent, though the British accent of the trainer was be a bit hard-to-follow for staff, especially when he's speaking softly.

On the other hand, did my training on SDI's certified Service Desk Analyst certification with ITSM expert sdn bhd (Tony was the trainer). Its a smaller company and they held the training at one of the hotels in PJ. Training is also excellent -  we skipped most of the ITIL content in SDI because we already know them and still pass the exam.

However I think both courses above are quite expensive to be taken at your own expense - try convincing your company to sponsor it!

Certification is crucial in landing a job, in negotiating your basic pay etc, but for the rest of your career, the most important thing however is not certification - but knowing how to do your job, showing initiative & interest in the job, and dont assume that since you know a lot, you know everything already.. there is always something new to learn & discover..  I have colleagues with extensive certifications but is clueless when it comes to technical things, and colleagues who are very knowledgeable and because of that, they think there's no need to learn anything new, and end up getting outdated..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Cheers!
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Thanks for the feedback. I want to get the certification just as an added value. If you are applying for jobs, certification is kinda important for you to at least to land an interview. After that your its more how good you are in your job. I'm still young. I go for ITIL because its the cheapest cert i can find XDXD. I'm now also looking at Oracle training as well from minda sys. Not for certification purposes but just as knowledge to get me going in my job. I'm a system admin by the way~..managing few stuff and oracle is one of them
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post Jan 25 2011, 05:39 PM

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very good thread. anyone senior can recommend which one is the best demand in market nowadays for network. CCNA ? MCSE ?
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post Jan 25 2011, 07:30 PM

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network ? ccna lo. then see u want network security ? or deep network .

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