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post Jan 18 2010, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(luminity @ Jan 18 2010, 09:58 PM)
System engineer gets the best of both worlds. But then again, it depends on your company and the projects and client deals they manage to acquire. I would probably say somewhere ranging from 1.6k - 2.5k. I would say probably slightly above 2k if you have CCNA.

Scope of work? It was everything under the sun for me back then. Doing installation, troubleshooting of IT equipment,  preventive maintenance and occasional outstation projects every now and then. It was a good experience though. Started off with the usual desktop installation, troubleshooting, auditing and moved up to more complex stuff like server administration (AD, Exchange) and network security (routers, switches, firewalls).

IMO, it's always better to specialize after a few years depending on your interest. E.g for Network (AVAYA, Cisco, Nortel, Juniper), SAN (Brocade, EMC), Systems (Microsoft, Linux, Unix) since a specialist's salary will usually always be higher and more in demand in the market.

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Can disclose what professional certificate that you possess ?Do we really need professional certificate ??I planning to do all of the Technical Certificate ,is this realiable for the future ?
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Hi all,

I have been working in IT industries for about 8 years. I have been in education, software development and servicing industries. Meaning to say, I am capable to troubleshoot hardware, software and networking issues. By the way, I am a Master degree holder. Currently I am thinking to be specialising in Networking and thus I am doing my CCNA course now.

However, I do not have any experience in handling Cisco product. Talking about networking, I have experience (i.e. administration and setup knowledge) working with routers, switches, firewalls and load balancers which are not Cisco products.

I wish I would not have start over again as a fresh graduate pay with no experience with Cisco product after getting my CCNA.

Does anyone have the same situation as me?
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post Jan 20 2010, 04:27 PM

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Lets say i am freshie and want to get a cert for equivalent to MCSE which i think its now called MCTS.

Does anybody know roughly the cost and number of modules i have to go through if i am just starting fresh?


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crapp0, MCSE is not MCTS - You need 7 exams to get MCSE while you can get MCTS by passing 1 exam. You can get more information on Microsoft website. One of the exam that I'm going to take next month is the 70-620 exam..passing that exam will make me a MCTS.

Another cert that's almost sama taraf to MCSE would be MCITP: EA but both on diff scope - mcse deals with w2k or w2k3 server while MCITP deals with w2k8 server.

Anybody has taken MCSE and MCITP before? I need some advice on that matter..

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i have my MCITP: enterprise admin couples of month ago..
70-620 is easy..vista..pejam mata also can pass..if you are running vista on your current pc you should be able to score well..
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firdausz, congrats on your MCITP: EA!! I would like to know whether should I take the MCSE track or MCITP: EA track. Which would you reco base on what you've studied? take MCSE or straight jump to MCITP: EA? I do desktop support as well as administering the AD but I know kinda lil about it..
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Can anyone please give me an answer ?
Do we really need professional certificate ??I planning to do all of the Technical Certificate ,is this realiable for the future ?
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nothing is certain in the future.. anyway, my 2 cents is that professional certs can help you boost your career as well.
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post Jan 21 2010, 11:34 AM

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i would advised you to go fr MCSE.
the cert's would never retired. while MCITP only valid for server 2008 and would be retired once microsoft issue new version of server.
and many company still using server 2003 and lower version and even dunno what is MCITP @_@..

i;m thinking myself to take MCSE and become MS trainer after that ( LOL in my dreamz)
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QUOTE(firdausz @ Jan 21 2010, 11:34 AM)
i would advised you to go fr MCSE.
the cert's would never retired. while MCITP only valid for server 2008 and would be retired once microsoft issue new version of server.
and many company still using server 2003 and lower version and even dunno what is MCITP @_@..

i;m thinking myself to take MCSE and become MS trainer after that ( LOL in my dreamz)
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what does a MS trainer do?

hope ur dream come true.
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post Jan 21 2010, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(singdreams @ Jan 18 2010, 09:03 PM)
Can disclose what professional certificate that you possess ?Do we really need professional certificate ??I planning to do all of the Technical Certificate ,is this realiable for the future ?
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I have CCNA and ITIL v2 which I both got last year. Currently pursuing my CCNP.

With the new government incentive, unemployed fresh grads are able to go for CCNA + MCITP with no cost which makes a stronger competition in the market for those who are in the hardware line. The employer will always take the first step to filter the candidates based on the qualifications they possess before even deciding to call them in for an interview. Usually applies for fresh grads.

It's impossible to take all certifications because it's really time consuming. Would recommend you to focus on a single field for progression.

Examples:
Networking - (CCNA -> CCNP -> CCSP/CCVP -> CCIE). For sidelines (CEH, Juniper, AVAYA certifications if you still have that extra drive and time on your hands)
Database - (OCA -> OCP -> OCM)

Not saying that you absolutely require certifications to get a job, but it definitely helps you to gain the edge over the other individual when it comes to getting that position/promotion or increment.


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QUOTE(evergreen228 @ Jan 20 2010, 04:23 PM)
Hi all,

I have been working in IT industries for about 8 years. I have been in education, software development and servicing industries. Meaning to say, I am capable to troubleshoot hardware, software and networking issues. By the way, I am a Master degree holder. Currently I am thinking to be specialising in Networking and thus I am doing my CCNA course now.

However, I do not have any experience in handling Cisco product. Talking about networking, I have experience (i.e. administration and setup knowledge) working with routers, switches, firewalls and load balancers which are not Cisco products.

I wish I would not have start over again as a fresh graduate pay with no experience with Cisco product after getting my CCNA.

Does anyone have the same situation as me?
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Advisable to move on to CCNP and CCIE if possible after obtaining your CCNA. Setup and troubleshooting can always be simulated/emulated through labs (e.g. Packet Tracer/GNS3). If you're keen and have enough cash, it's always good to invest in real equipment as well biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(firdausz @ Jan 21 2010, 11:34 AM)
i would advised you to go fr MCSE.
the cert's would never retired. while MCITP only valid for server 2008 and would be retired once microsoft issue new version of server.
and many company still using server 2003 and lower version and even dunno what is MCITP @_@..

i;m thinking myself to take MCSE and become MS trainer after that ( LOL in my dreamz)
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noted. i'll take mcse, then take the upgrade exam to mcitp le.. cool.. anyway, good luck on your joruney, mate!

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and make sure u join IT firm ONLY.... if u want to utilize your network or system cert....
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QUOTE(wasabi @ Jan 21 2010, 12:43 PM)
and make sure u join IT firm ONLY.... if u want to utilize your network or system cert....
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how to become a microsoft trainer? any cert to take?
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post Mar 30 2010, 11:05 AM

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for those who planned to take MCSE, please pick 2 MCTS exam for your MCSE cert. You can do that. You'll save your upgrade path if you take 2 MCTS exam for your MCSE

The MCTS exam you can choose is for your client OS exam i recommend windows vista, and for your elective exam you can pick windows 7. Both are MCTS paper. But you already meet the requirement for MCSE cert. As you know, both paper are easy and pretty much the same. You don't have to study much to pass this paper.

Basically those who have MCSE now, also have MCTS in client OS.
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post Jun 13 2010, 05:27 AM

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Just managed to complete my MCPD last week and suddenly want to fill my free time to grab another MCTS certificate (due to second shot offer and 55% discount before 30 June) . Currently, there's two in my mind :

1) TS: Windows 7, Configuring
2) TS: Windows Vista, Configuring

At first, I want to to take the latest certificate in the term of technology and future value which is Windows 7 but I've never have the chances till now to use the OS doh.gif . So, I'm considering to take the Windows Vista certification since I'm very familiar with it and got the OS to do self study. Just afraid with the exam retirement date and credit towards MCITP in the future . Any advice?

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post Jun 13 2010, 05:07 PM

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This thread is still alive? Where is the person who got all these certs gone ?How many certs do you possess now ?

This post has been edited by singdreams: Jun 13 2010, 05:08 PM
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Does anyone plan to sell MCTS 70-515 Kits, ASP.NET 4.0 books, and any related .NET 4.0 books ?

If so, pm me.. Thank you.
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guys just a question..

should i take MCITP?
i am graduating later this year and major in System Administration
i've learn windows system administration(based on windows server 2008), unix system administration courses and currently taking database admin(based on Oracle)..

and from all the jobs i saw,they prefer MCSE,etc certified and wondering should i take MCITP just for the certificate?



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