Would you guys suggest taking UoL or UKT?
What's the difference?
Thanks is advance.

University of London International Program - LLB (Hons) this llb enables you to study for a University of London degree by distance and flexible learning. You will be reading law 3 years locally. Hence, a 3+0 program.
Further info: www.londoninternational.ac.uk

UK Transfer Program - You will be reading law for the first and/or two years locally and then for your third year, you will move into the chosen university and study there as an internal student. This is either 1+2 or 2+1.

Also, it is possible for UOL students to transfer to unis in UK for 2nd and 3rd year.
But it is not possible to transfer from UK Transfer Programme to UOL external.

UOL external exams are relatively more difficult compared to UK Transfers.

correct me if im wrong.

Both are accepted by the UK bar?

You check with the uni which accepts the transfers, not UOL.
I know of people who have done so.

This. To certain extent , I agree... A friend of mine used to be the average joe in class. Our path split when she chose to do UK Transfer to UWE. Her result has been average which she herself admitted but she ended up getting first class for her degree when graduated...and the rest doing UOL external...those we normally refer as "genius" or "pro" in the class ended up with second class upper. which came quite a shocker to most of us

Well, it happened few years back when we graduated. Not sure if it's still the same but most of us did think that UKT and UOL External sure got a little bit of difference!

Yup saw that one on the website. Taking local Uni to skip the CLP. So MoJ is out.

I know someone who did UOL locally for the first two years. She scraped through most of  the papers.
She transfered to UK for the 3rd year and ended up getting a 2nd Upper Honours.
Had she continued with UOL and failed to get a 2nd class honours, she would not be eligible to sit for her CLP. That's the risk she would have taken.



This post has been edited by tehtmc: Jul 30 2012, 05:03 PM

But the reality is no one could feel how difficult the uol program until he experiences it.

very very pleased with all the info over here.. will take more time to read and get to know more.

I am an Actuarial Science degree holder and planning to do law next year. My target is to be a law practitioner and i am sure i hv to start all over again. Here are some questions in my mind..

Can i know my possible routes to law practitioner by part time study? (i know i should be able to figure out after reading through all the posts, but i am just too eager to know..sorry)

btw, will that be ok if i dont have STPM cert? coz i entered my uni via foundation programme straight after my SPM...

btw, any suggestion on college / uni that has part time study?

Wait till you try CLP.

Nice to know there are people like me around; venturing into new fields. My research so far for part time studies: IPTA: UiTM intake September every year through Pengajian Luar Kampus (PLK) study methods, you still have to attend class but outside of working hours. Fees super cheap. Can apply for PTPTN loan and then get a scholarship if you graduate with a 1st class honors. Reputation? I've read an article by a UiTM Law lecturer in The Star before, it was a good read with good English. That's all I know.

IPTS: University of London (External): you can choose to go to classes BAC etc. (you have to pay for exam, study material, classes) or you can study on your own (only pay for exam and study material to UOL, no classes). No PTPTN cause its IPTS part time. CLP included of course.

I would say it depends where you're going with your career. I'm in construction, a field that is heavily influenced by local/state laws, so going to an IPTA makes sense. Where are you going with your career?

Btw, have you started working yet? Or did you decide to change careers during your uni years? Like me. It's best to know what it's like working in your field so you can know where the opportunities are. I believe that law is usable everywhere, you just have to know how to use it in your field of interest.

Hi, nice to know you!! yup, i m going to venture into a whole new world. Got a very good opportunity recently..which requires me to become a certified lawyer. It might take years to complete, but i will go for it.

Thanks for your info on UiTM! Will definitely find out more. Yes, had been working for 2+ years.. (fairly new in the market huh? hahaha..) Nth wrong with what i m doing now though.. is kinda a comfort zone for me. I am not afraid to break it.

I am currently taking a-level and is still choosing for university to pursue my LLB degree. I am not keen to proceed in UK as it is very far apart from Malaysia. Unlike SG, Aus, NZ, we do not need to admit to the bar in UK before becoming a lawyer in Malaysia.

Other than that, there are Singapore, Australia and New Zealand. Between these three which makes better choice? I know admission to Singapore ones is challenging and hard. But, it is a lot nearer to Malaysia. Plus, many famous lawyers were educated in SG so it makes better image to be graduated in SG (I guess?). I went to NUS's website, but details were not complete and comprehensive. Could anyone, provide me information regarding this University as well as admission qualification?

I referred to http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/how_to_be_a_member.html

Under Aus and NZ section, it mentioned:
In the cases of Australian and New Zealand degrees listed above, apart from having to pass the final examination leading to the Bachelor of Laws (LL.B) degree, the graduate must also satisfy additional requirements as prescribed in the relevant Gazette.

What does this mean?

This post has been edited by TamaUser: Aug 3 2012, 08:24 AM

different level, cannot be compared with uol degree.

the best part eh

I just did my UOL exam few months back. May I know how much is the fees for the exam paper if I wish to transfer to UKT? Btw, I'm from BAC as well. Thanks. And well, from what my friend told, UKT is way easier compare to UOL which is fully external and exam based.

The "level" is the same (or lower), trust me.

Regardless of which system are they adopting, external or internal. It still depends on that particular individuals. I agree with the few examples that they raised there as i have encountered the same. Nonetheless, i have seen those second upper geniuses from UoL undermining UKT students ended up they actually dont really understand the law, a 2.2 ukt grad seems to have better understanding level. I also came across that a book prize winner (uol)asking me:" how do you even study for examination without Q&A?" As i said, it really depends.

Undoubtedly, i would think its easy to pass in UKT than in UoL. When it comes to scoring a 1st or As, it is still difficult. Perhaps academiclawyer can clarify this? hahaha

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Added on August 4, 2012, 12:57 amSpeaking of CLP, i just went through hell...... Bungkus ........

This post has been edited by jhong: Aug 4 2012, 12:57 AM