With passion and hard work, even mediocre A lvl grades can turn into a 1st Class. Without passion and hard work, even excellent A lvl grades can turn into a 3rd class.

Where is your llb from?

The only way is to apply for exemption from the Ministry of Law. But they have a record of not granting it to UOL external LLB holders.
Neither is your friend in better position since Hertfordshire is not on the list of recognised universities and it is not a terribly good university.
But it is worth a shot if you have outstanding results and some experience in practice. Otherwise chances are very slim.

Yes. You'll get paid about $2k. But there's little career advancement to speak of. You don't want to be a paralegal forever right?

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Added on May 3, 2012, 3:16 amNot at the moment.

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Added on May 3, 2012, 3:19 amAnd SMU. There is a shortage of lawyers. But they don't want to compromise on the quality.

I don't personally know people who have gotten an exemption. But I heard that there are, though very very few.

This post has been edited by academiclawyer: May 3 2012, 03:19 AM

That's because many Singaporean UOL LLB external holders protested. They won't recognise it but may be less hard when granting the exemption.

To be a true 'foreign lawyer', i.e. not the 'called-to-the-malaysian-bar-type-paralegal', you need to have a number of years of experience as a lawyer in another jurisdiction and sit for a special exam. Apparently there are no courses to prepare you for it. And you can only practise commercial law.

This post has been edited by academiclawyer: May 4 2012, 09:58 PM

Seriously, that cannot be a reason why you don't apply to the better universities. I'm sure UCAS won't be a problem if you handle offer and acceptance.

Since I did not study in any of the mentioned law schools, I speak only of their reputation.

Cardiff, Liverpool and Hull are traditional and solid law schools. Arguably Reading can now be added to this category.

Hertfordshire is a dump, and Aber not very much better. Northumbria is upcoming, but 'everyone' goes there.

Reputation is a gauge of research quality; famous institutions are mostly research intensive institutions. While a good researcher may not be a brilliant teacher (and I must say this is the minority situation), a good teacher who also conducts quality research can offer so much more than one who merely teaches. Surely you want to hear for yourself what Treitel has to say about Contract and what Penner has to say about Trust? I assure you that such experiences are invaluable.

Now I'm not saying that people who graduate from the second list are hopeless. There are many successful instances. It takes more than the law school to produce successful people. But at times, eg when applying to highly competitive positions, reputation of the institution may matter.

You don't just choose Freedonia University over Harvard just because the former is cheaper, unless of course if your financial position does not allow for a choice. The brand follows you for life. Think about it.

This post has been edited by academiclawyer: May 8 2012, 04:08 PM

LLM from where? Do you intend to go into legal practice?

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Added on May 10, 2012, 11:22 pmDidn't even know Segi offers that.

This post has been edited by academiclawyer: May 10 2012, 11:22 PM

There's even a 3-year Diploma in law. No idea what that does ...

If you have the money, you may want to do the BTPC for the experience. But many people do it only to avoid the CLP. If legal practice is not your main aim, then maybe the CLP is a better choice. I opted for the CLP and saved the money for my Masters.

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Added on May 11, 2012, 8:23 pmNot a good idea. I've been studying the law for almost 8 years and I'm still always confused. You need guidances.

This post has been edited by academiclawyer: May 11 2012, 08:23 PM

No, I've been studying the law for 8 years, and I will continue to do that for the next 80 years, provided that I live till then.

Any other offers?

I know it's good for IP, and probably commercial law. For LLM, reputation is everything. So you should try to get the best one that you can. Should try UCL and LSE.

No don't apply to so many. Just aim for a few. The university should be much more reputable than the one you got your LLB from. You want to 'upgrade'. I'm fine with Bristol and Notts. Both are good. But probably not Manchester, which has about the same reputation as Cardiff.

Other sexy choices include Durham and Edinburg.

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Added on May 12, 2012, 1:04 amBtw I know how rubbish CLP is. That's the worse thing I've undertaken.

This post has been edited by academiclawyer: May 12 2012, 01:04 AM

No you don't use the world ranking. In the case of law schools, you usually go by reputation. I'll put Cardiff on par with Manchester but behind QMUL, which has the UOL factor. But I'll put both Notts and Bristol ahead of QMUL.

I should also say something about 'upgrading'. Say an LLB from Bristol is more prestigious than an LLB from Cardiff. If the Cardiff LLB holder gets an LLM from Bristol, it doesn't put them on par. To surpass the Bristol LLB holder, the Cardiff LLB holder should get his LLM from a university more prestigious than Bristol, say UCL. So that's why I said that the LLM conferring university that you choose should be very much more prestigious than your LLB conferring university.

All are just my opinion though so take it with a pinch of salt.

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Added on May 12, 2012, 1:17 amI have recently attended a conference on the CBC. The amount of hostility by the public unis .... my god. So it will never happen unless the authorities decide to bulldoze its way.

This post has been edited by academiclawyer: May 12 2012, 01:17 AM

Much welcome.

Yes it is. If you apply to a competitive one, you should put lots of time and effort into it. And make sure your references are 'academic' references, not 'character' refrences.

Between Bristol and Notts I will go for Bristol. Less common in Malaysia.

First time using this profile pic, haha. Yes, I guess my username indicates that. But I prefer to be called a scholar.

Haha, not a very common coat of arm.

Nice places. Haven't been to Cardiff, which I heard is quite nice.

But the law school building is he ugliest in the world.