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University Useful information for prospective law students, A basic guide to become a lawyer

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ymjay
post Sep 23 2008, 10:58 AM

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hm...i did history in my a-levels. I must admit that there was hardly any relevance when i did my LLB.
I'll be surprised if sejarah is compulsory.
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post Sep 24 2008, 09:50 AM

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Hi..
I'm planning to do law. im thinking of doing it in new zealand.any comments?
i might want to work in singapore in the future. but malaysia will still be my choice. i checked that doing twinning to uk cant let me work in sinagpore.
as for finances, i can afford to go all 3 years in uk.
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post Sep 24 2008, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(history-maker @ Sep 24 2008, 09:50 AM)
Hi..
I'm planning to do law. im thinking of doing it in new zealand.any comments?
i might want to work in singapore in the future. but malaysia will still be my choice. i checked that doing twinning to uk cant let me work in sinagpore.
as for finances, i can afford to go all 3 years in uk.
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if u can afford to study in the uk for 3 years, might as well do an UOL external LLB or a twinning programme and do the Bar in the UK after u grad i.e. if u intend to do a Uk degree.
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post Sep 24 2008, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(h0nesty. @ Sep 16 2008, 08:22 PM)
okie, im sorta in dilemma right now.
and i would like to seek for some advice.

is it a MUST to take sejarah in STPM if im interested in law?

as what i've heard, sejarah is easy to read and understands, when it comes to question they just screwed up, its HARD to get marks. that is why, most of my seniors failed their sejarah paper.
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No...Sejarah is not compulsory...As long as u get 2 credits, u can proceed to LLB and do ur clp in future...
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post Sep 24 2008, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 24 2008, 02:43 PM)
No...Sejarah is not compulsory...As long as u get 2 credits, u can proceed to LLB and do ur clp in future...
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i would think he/she was asking regarding entrance to a local u
since STPM was mentioned.


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post Sep 24 2008, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Sep 24 2008, 10:40 AM)
if u can afford to study in the uk for 3 years, might as well do an UOL external LLB or a twinning programme and do the Bar in the UK after u grad i.e. if u intend to do a Uk degree.
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yup.. i noe. but the thing is twinning in uk cant work in singpore rite??
if i do the UOL and do bar in uk can i work in singapore??
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post Sep 24 2008, 05:28 PM

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singapore does not recognize UOL degree since 1996

i think to the extent that even if you are called up to either of the 4 inns


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post Sep 24 2008, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(ymjay @ Sep 24 2008, 03:06 PM)
i would think he/she was asking regarding entrance to a local u
since STPM was mentioned.
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Ops...I tot he/she is asking about whether can proceed to practice as lawyer or not in future without the sej subject wink.gif

If then, i m not sure about that....
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post Sep 24 2008, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(ymjay @ Sep 24 2008, 05:28 PM)
singapore does not recognize UOL degree since 1996

i think to the extent that even if you are called up to either of the 4 inns
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oh..so if i cant afford to go to uk all 3 years will nz be a good choice??
any other options??besides twinning??
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post Sep 24 2008, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(ymjay @ Sep 24 2008, 05:28 PM)
singapore does not recognize UOL degree since 1996

i think to the extent that even if you are called up to either of the 4 inns
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will have to check that out. can't remember but i think can.

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post Sep 25 2008, 10:17 AM

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they don't recognise an UOL external degree....
thats all there is to it

its a fact, not an assumption.
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post Sep 25 2008, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Sep 24 2008, 10:40 AM)
if u can afford to study in the uk for 3 years, might as well do an UOL external LLB or a twinning programme and do the Bar in the UK after u grad i.e. if u intend to do a Uk degree.
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I do not believe in doing an external program unless you are a working professional and are unable to attend full time university classes. There is no substitute to a proper university education where you are taught by actual experts in the field who have written academic papers and textbooks on the subject. While you will still gain your LLB if you do the UoL external, you would not have the same experience. As such, it is no wonder why Singapore decided not to recognise external programs and sub-standard overseas universities.
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post Sep 25 2008, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(RBR @ Sep 25 2008, 02:06 PM)
I do not believe in doing an external program unless you are a working professional and are unable to attend full time university classes.  There is no substitute to a proper university education where you are taught by actual experts in the field who have written academic papers and textbooks on the subject.  While you will still gain your LLB if you do the UoL external, you would not have the same experience.  As such, it is no wonder why Singapore decided not to recognise external programs and sub-standard overseas universities.
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true enough, if one benefits from the experience.
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post Sep 25 2008, 10:54 PM

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well u can just go NUS to get a law degree then u're exempted from doing CLP here also lol laugh.gif
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post Sep 26 2008, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(RBR @ Sep 25 2008, 02:06 PM)
I do not believe in doing an external program unless you are a working professional and are unable to attend full time university classes.  There is no substitute to a proper university education where you are taught by actual experts in the field who have written academic papers and textbooks on the subject.  While you will still gain your LLB if you do the UoL external, you would not have the same experience.  As such, it is no wonder why Singapore decided not to recognise external programs and sub-standard overseas universities.
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True...but in certain external programme colleges, they do have some practiced lawyers who are experienced enuff to who are good enuff to give proper lecture and actual scenario when actual lecture going on...But, certainly, the likes of BAC, ATC(KL) recruited most(if not all) freshly graduated as their lecturer....
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post Sep 26 2008, 10:23 AM

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yea.NUS is a goood place..but chances of getting in for Law espicially is even harder. hows the price studying in uk all 3 yrs?? not in london.
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post Sep 26 2008, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(history-maker @ Sep 24 2008, 09:50 AM)
Hi..
I'm planning to do law. im thinking of doing it in new zealand.any comments?
i might want to work in singapore in the future. but malaysia will still be my choice. i checked that doing twinning to uk cant let me work in sinagpore.
as for finances, i can afford to go all 3 years in uk.
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New Zealand - not recommended if you're going to be paying international fees. Entry into 2nd year law in NZ is competitive based on 1st year grades. 1000 students might do 1st year, but only about 200 will make it into 2nd year. There's always the option of transferring to a 'lesser' university, but why do through all the agony in the 1st place?

If you do want to work in Spore with an NZ LLB, you need to pick your uni carefully. I believe Spore only recognises 2 NZ unis for law (out of 5) - Auckland and Victoria.
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QUOTE(wornbook @ Sep 26 2008, 02:45 PM)
New Zealand - not recommended if you're going to be paying international fees. Entry into 2nd year law in NZ is competitive based on 1st year grades. 1000 students might do 1st year, but only about 200 will make it into 2nd year. There's always the option of transferring to a 'lesser' university, but why do through all the agony in the 1st place?

If you do want to work in Spore with an NZ LLB, you need to pick your uni carefully. I believe Spore only recognises 2 NZ unis for law (out of 5) - Auckland and Victoria.
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is not that i want an nz Llb.just that i want to work in sinagapore.and twinning cant let me do that. and i dont think i can afford to study in uk.any other options?? or any cheap uni in uk.. incluing cost of living is average to a total of??
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post Sep 26 2008, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(history-maker @ Sep 26 2008, 03:51 PM)
is not that i want an nz Llb.just that i want to work in sinagapore.and twinning cant let me do that. and i dont think i can afford to study in uk.any other options?? or any cheap uni in uk.. incluing cost of living is average to a total of??
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Try for NUS? Or one of the IPTAs?
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post Sep 26 2008, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(wornbook @ Sep 26 2008, 04:26 PM)
Try for NUS? Or one of the IPTAs?
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is not easy to get into NUS, fyi smile.gif

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