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shuxdaeongen
post Jul 29 2008, 09:45 AM

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i heard that law graduates are having difficulties in looking for a job these days..
i wanna know whether it's true..
pls tell me ASAP..

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post Jul 29 2008, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Jul 26 2008, 04:51 PM)
King's college seems  the best place to study law at London eh? biggrin.gif
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Fyi,We dun study law...
we read law... icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on July 29, 2008, 6:54 pm
QUOTE(shuxdaeongen @ Jul 29 2008, 09:45 AM)
i heard that law graduates are having difficulties in looking for a job these days..
i wanna know whether it's true..
pls tell me ASAP..
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I dun think so...
if u r picky, of course u cant find a job...


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post Jul 31 2008, 05:32 PM

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just now my school got education fair biggrin.gif

and i just consult with the HELP college executive,their LLB course seem interesting.and the represantative is helpful too biggrin.gif

first year at HELP,the second and third year can transfer to these U:

Year 2

* University of Manchester
* University of Sheffield
* University of Exeter

Year 3

* University of Liverpool
* Cardiff University
* University of Wales, Aberystwyth
* Northumbria University
* University of the West of England, Bristol
* University of Hertfordshire

*They can help for King's College and Cambridge too biggrin.gif

ok ah? biggrin.gif


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post Jul 31 2008, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Jul 31 2008, 05:32 PM)
just now my school got education fair biggrin.gif

and i just consult with the HELP college executive,their LLB course seem interesting.and the represantative is helpful too biggrin.gif

first year at HELP,the second and third year can transfer to these U:

Year 2

    * University of Manchester
    * University of Sheffield
    * University of Exeter

Year 3

    * University of Liverpool
    * Cardiff University
    * University of Wales, Aberystwyth
    * Northumbria University
    * University of the West of England, Bristol
    * University of Hertfordshire

*They can help for King's College and Cambridge too biggrin.gif

ok ah? biggrin.gif
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Whether they are 'ok' or not is really up to you to decide. Like what you said, their representative is helpful and you will have the option to transfer in your 2nd or 3rd year to the Universities listed by you. Personally, I would not go for it but don't let my personal preference deter you from reading at law HELP if you believe that it will be good for you.
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post Jul 31 2008, 11:14 PM

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fikir2 balik i will stick with local la,i want to do LLB locally and I hope got UM la biggrin.gif

I guess same and fees cheaper rite?

If go overseas maybe australia coz there are cheap too biggrin.gif

UK darn expensive lol,i guess can buy the latest 3 series BMW biggrin.gif

btw,how do our students cover their tuition and living expenses at UK ah ? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 1 2008, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Jul 31 2008, 11:14 PM)
fikir2 balik i will stick with local la,i want to do LLB locally and I hope got UM la biggrin.gif

I guess same and fees cheaper rite?

If go overseas maybe australia coz there are cheap too biggrin.gif

UK darn expensive lol,i guess can buy the latest 3 series BMW biggrin.gif

btw,how do our students cover their tuition and living expenses at UK ah ? biggrin.gif
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Reading law at a local public institution will definitely be cheaper as opposed to reading law overseas or at a local private institution.

Fees, course syllabus, standards of examination, approach, etc differs accordingly.

If you compare the fees, exchange rate and cost of living, you will find that Australia and England is more of less the same. This however would depend on the location you are comparing. You definitely cannot compare the cost of studying in London and Tasmania.

You can always apply for a scholarship, a loan from a licensed financial institution, a friendly loan, etc.

It really depends on what your options are and this in turn would be dependent upon your results and the institution that has accepted you.

smile.gif You will be able to obtain more information if you seek other opinions from a general thread.

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post Aug 4 2008, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Jul 31 2008, 11:14 PM)
fikir2 balik i will stick with local la,i want to do LLB locally and I hope got UM la biggrin.gif

I guess same and fees cheaper rite?

If go overseas maybe australia coz there are cheap too biggrin.gif

UK darn expensive lol,i guess can buy the latest 3 series BMW biggrin.gif

btw,how do our students cover their tuition and living expenses at UK ah ? biggrin.gif
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Isnt it better if u just focus on ur SPM as you wont be able to enter UM if u dun pass SPM with flying colours?
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post Aug 10 2008, 03:13 AM

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Hi there...
sorry to disturb...i'm here just to help a friend who is bz doing assignments...
I have 3 questions here:

1:what is the effect to CIL if the state depart from it?

2:how does it affect CIL due to the departure of the states?

3.how and when can the states depart from CIL?

CIL is Customary International Law...

Hope anybody can help me find the answer as soon as possible...
Really need help...

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post Aug 10 2008, 07:32 AM

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what a LL.B holder can do besides being a lawyer ? smile.gif

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post Aug 10 2008, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(max2827 @ Aug 10 2008, 03:13 AM)
Hi there...
sorry to disturb...i'm here just to help a friend who is bz doing assignments...
I have 3 questions here:

1:what is the effect to CIL if the state depart from it?

2:how does it affect CIL due to the departure of the states?

3.how and when can the states depart from CIL?

CIL is Customary International Law...

Hope anybody can help me find the answer as soon as possible...
Really need help...
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Tell your friend to do his/her own research. Those aren't massively difficult questions. Just get a a good international law textbook.
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post Aug 10 2008, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(SyaFiQ92 @ Aug 10 2008, 07:32 AM)
what a LL.B holder can do besides being a lawyer ? smile.gif
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Anything as long as the employer recognises the qualification.

Normally, legal officers, compliance officers, enter into business, etc

It is too wide to list down everything
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post Aug 10 2008, 07:21 PM

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*offtopic*

and remember kids, dont become lawyers that jeopardise the nation's harmony like what those big kids do
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post Aug 10 2008, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(overruled23 @ Aug 10 2008, 07:21 PM)
*offtopic*

and remember kids, dont become lawyers that jeopardise the nation's harmony like what those big kids do
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I shall reply to your statement with a short quote from the late Prof J.L. Austin of the Dept of Philosophy in Oxford University

"A sharpened awareness of words to sharpen our perception of the phenomena" - Prof. J.L. Austin

Shall not discuss further with regard to 'that' incident.

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post Aug 19 2008, 01:54 AM

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Just wanna ask abt postgraduate studies.
Which university in Australia specifically Sydney is recognized by M'sia to do the LLM? because i only know that Deakin University in Melbourne is recognized here. TQ in advanced (:
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QUOTE(Xziled @ Aug 19 2008, 01:54 AM)
Just wanna ask abt postgraduate studies.
Which university in Australia specifically Sydney is recognized by M'sia to do the LLM? because i only know that Deakin University in Melbourne is recognized here. TQ in advanced (:
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Why are you concerned about recognition of your LL.M? Are you in or intend to enter the civil service?
Who recognises Deaken in Malaysia?
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post Aug 22 2008, 02:18 PM

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Because Australian law would be different? so u have to do some research which universities' degrees r recognized in M'sia if not it would not be applied here?
Deakin is tying up with BAC offering LL.M here where one can do distance learning but i wanna do it over there. But Deakin is in Melbourne and i'm thinking to go Sydney so i'm just asking where any uni in Sydney has it and whether it's recognized back here.

Get what i mean?
And it's just for more qualification wise.
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post Aug 23 2008, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Xziled @ Aug 22 2008, 02:18 PM)
Because Australian law would be different? so u have to do some research which universities' degrees r recognized in M'sia if not it would not be applied here?
Deakin is tying up with BAC offering LL.M here where one can do distance learning but i wanna do it over there. But Deakin is in Melbourne and i'm thinking to go Sydney so i'm just asking where any uni in Sydney has it and whether it's recognized back here.

Get what i mean?
And it's just for more qualification wise.
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The recognition you are referring to is dependent upon your prospective employer's preference. An LL.M from a local university or a foreign university will make no difference with regard to recognition by the Qualifying Board. It may be relevant for the civil service but such a distinction may not be substantially important for the private sector.

If an LL.M is not recognised as a result of it being based on foreign law then only an LL.M from a local public institution will be recognised as they are based on local laws.

Do note that an LL.M is meant to improve and enhance your logical and analytical skills. You are not going to be tested on your knowledge of the substantive law alone.

If a distinction on the recognition of an LL.M is made between a foreign LL.M conducted based on foreign law and a local LL.M conducted based on local law then it would in effect render most if not all foreign LL.M redundant.


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Back to your initial question in view of your reply, the recognition of your LL.M will be dependent upon your prospective employer's preference on whether they prefer a foreign LL.M or a local LL.M. It is the same as how an employer would prefer a legal advisor who is an advocate and solicitor and one who is a law graduate.

I am addressing the issue of recognition alone.

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post Aug 24 2008, 02:37 AM

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Ooo..okay thx (:


Added on September 2, 2008, 9:20 pmMay i ask..during the final year in LLB Part 2
which subjects that i should take? i know i should take the one i have interest in but the lecturers told me that most of the time, the subjects offered also no relevance in the real world eg.conflicts

But anyway, my uni also not offering that many subjects so i'm deciding to take up Juris,conflicts,company. The last subject i'm undecided abt it which is between Family or succession. Plz advise as to which 1 is easier to pass xD

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May be slightly off topic, but which uni (HELP or Inti) is better for law?
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post Sep 4 2008, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Xziled @ Aug 24 2008, 02:37 AM)
Ooo..okay thx (:


Added on September 2, 2008, 9:20 pmMay i ask..during the final year in LLB Part 2
which subjects that i should take? i know i should take the one i have interest in but the lecturers told me that most of the time, the subjects offered also no relevance in the real world eg.conflicts

But anyway, my uni also not offering that many subjects so i'm deciding to take up Juris,conflicts,company. The last subject i'm undecided abt it which is between Family or succession. Plz advise as to which 1 is easier to pass xD
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It is difficult for others to give a reply on the subject that you should take for the simple reason of personal preference. I for one loves Jurisprudence. However, I am rather certain that the majority of law students dislike it.

There are students who do well for family but there are also students who do better for succession. It really depends on how comfortable you are with the subject.

I would advise you to download the first 4 chapters of the subject guide at http://londonexternal.ac.uk/current_studen...des/index.shtml

and decide for yourself which among the 2 subject would you prefer.

Another thing that you should consider would be the past years' examination report made available at http://londonexternal.ac.uk/current_studen...iplaw/llb.shtml

The examination report will be able to give you a rough idea on what is expected in the examination for the specific subject.


Added on September 4, 2008, 10:38 pm
QUOTE(erisu90 @ Sep 4 2008, 07:18 PM)
May be slightly off topic, but which uni (HELP or Inti) is better for law?
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I'm afraid that I am unable to comment on such questions as I may have certain inclinations that may not be justified thus being unable to give a clear and accurate representation on the quality of the institutions mentioned by you.

It would perhaps be better for you to visit the respective institutions and speak with their students.

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