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edennature
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Sep 30 2009, 04:48 PM
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i would have to change my mind but i have strong desire to do bvc in future ..another question,law books are used widely?for instance can malaysian lawyers use law books that are published in uk,australia instead of local law books?
This post has been edited by edennature: Sep 30 2009, 04:49 PM
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TSschizophrenic
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Sep 30 2009, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(edennature @ Sep 30 2009, 08:48 AM) i would have to change my mind but i have strong desire to do bvc in future ..another question,law books are used widely?for instance can malaysian lawyers use law books that are published in uk,australia instead of local law books? Yes they do. They refer to Practitioner's text from England, India, Australia, etc. These are persuasive authorities. However, if you can find a Malaysian case that recognises the case or principle that you are relying on, then that would be binding. :-) *subject to the case being distinguished...
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minshuen
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Sep 30 2009, 06:40 PM
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is university of reading law degree recognised by the law society of singapore? if not,can any university of reading law graduates still practise in singapore?
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alsree786
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Sep 30 2009, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(minshuen @ Sep 30 2009, 06:40 PM) is university of reading law degree recognised by the law society of singapore? if not,can any university of reading law graduates still practise in singapore? fyi http://www.lawsociety.org.sg/ble/n_first_schedule.htmwill add more info later when i have more time...
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edennature
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Oct 1 2009, 01:10 PM
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Added on October 1, 2009, 6:19 pm'Part II, paragraph 16 of the New Guidelines on Qualifications and requirements to qualify to sit for the Malaysian Certifiate in Legal Practice (CLP) Examination (For Law degrees from the United Kingdom)'
how can i find it?
This post has been edited by edennature: Oct 1 2009, 06:19 PM
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Oct 2 2009, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(edennature @ Sep 30 2009, 04:48 PM) i would have to change my mind but i have strong desire to do bvc in future ..another question,law books are used widely?for instance can malaysian lawyers use law books that are published in uk,australia instead of local law books? QUOTE(schizophrenic @ Sep 30 2009, 06:38 PM) Yes they do. They refer to Practitioner's text from England, India, Australia, etc. These are persuasive authorities. However, if you can find a Malaysian case that recognises the case or principle that you are relying on, then that would be binding. :-) *subject to the case being distinguished... You can apply the principles and common law from England if there r no special provisions or M'sian cases to support ur case. It shall be applied so far as the same shall not conflict or be inconsistent with the Code or other provisions in M'sian statutes.
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minshuen
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Oct 5 2009, 04:14 PM
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will law society of singapore recognise the law degree that was obtained through DTP programme of HELP university college?
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edennature
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Oct 5 2009, 05:57 PM
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minshuen
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Oct 5 2009, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(edennature @ Oct 5 2009, 05:57 PM) is there other way to be recognised by the law society of singapore?
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alsree786
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Oct 6 2009, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE(minshuen @ Oct 5 2009, 09:01 PM) is there other way to be recognised by the law society of singapore? pls view their website for the info. If you want some basic info on the recent changes to the admission pls view: http://www.britishcouncil.org/singapore-ed...-uk-degrees.pdf and http://app-stg2.mlaw.gov.sg/LinkClick.aspx...WU%3D&tabid=269
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edennature
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Oct 6 2009, 01:24 PM
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few days ago i heard from a lawyer said that graduates from australia do not need to take CLP,is this true?I mean for East malaysia only.He is a lawyer from sarawak.
Added on October 6, 2009, 1:29 pmi find the answer.just share this.
There are two separate regions in Malaysia for the purpose of admission to legal practice, East Malaysia (States of Sarawak & Sabah) and West Malaysia (Peninsula). Whilst it is possible to gain admission to practise law in East Malaysia on the basis of admission in West Malaysia, the reverse does not apply.
East Malaysia (States of Sarawak & Sabah) In East Malaysia the general requirement for admission to practise law is for applicants to have already been admitted to practise law in another country of the Commonwealth. Advice should be sought directly from either the Advocates Association of Sarawak or the Advocates Association of Sabah as citizenship and residency requirements may also apply.
Advocates Association of Sarawak Bar Room, High Court Jalan Tun Haji Openg, Kuching Sarawak Malaysia Tel: (082) 422284
West Malaysia (Peninsula) The provisions governing admission and qualifications for admission to the Malaysian Bar in West Malaysia are governed by the Legal Profession Act 1976. The Legal Profession Qualifying Board, Malaysia determines the qualifications which may entitle a person to become a "qualified person" within the meaning of section 3 of the Act for purposes of admission as an advocate and solicitor in Malaysia. The LLB offered by The University of Melbourne is recognised by the Legal Professsion Qualifying Board, Malaysia, thus enabling MLS graduates to sit the examination for the Malaysian Certificate of Legal Practice (CLP). Upon successful completion of the CLP examination, candidates are eligible to apply for admission to practise law in West Malaysia.
Apart from passing the final examination leading to a recognised LLB degree, Australian and New Zealand graduates must also satisfy additional requirements as prescribed in The Guidelines on Qualifications and Requirements for Recognition of holders of Australian and New Zealand Law Degrees to become ‘Qualified Person' under the Legal Profession Act 1976. The main requirements being:
• Admission to the LLB must be via the VCE or a qualification from another Australian State or Territory which is equivalent to the VCE. Foundation programs are not accepted for this purpose eg Trinity Foundation Program.
• Duration must be a minimum of 3 academic years and be completed within 6 years of initial registration.
• Minimum of 12 substantive law subjects including 6 core subjects that must be studied over 12 months: Law of Contract; Law of Torts; Constitutional Law; Criminal Law; Land Law; and Equity and Trusts.
Australian lawyers who are admitted to practise as a barrister in England may also be eligible to apply for admission to the Bar in West Malaysia.
Further information is available at the Malaysian Bar website.
This post has been edited by edennature: Oct 6 2009, 01:29 PM
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pianolife
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Oct 6 2009, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(schizophrenic @ Jul 7 2008, 11:01 PM) LLB and JD are two different courses. Like I said, a JD is generally a graduate programme. Thus, you need to have obtained your baccalaureus degree before going for a JD. A JD may enable you to use the title Dr. in certain jurisdictions. The requirements may differ from institution to institution and it is best that you personally contact your preferred institution. You can enroll for a Diploma in Law programme with an SPM qualification. You may subsequently transfer your qualification to form part of your LLB upon completion. However, you may not be able to practise in Malaysia as your qualification will not enable you to sit for the CLP exam. You may apply for your LLB using the mature student route but in order for your to qualify to sit for the CLP exam, you need at least 5 years of relevant and proven working experience. I highly doubt that you would like to enter using this route as you have just finished your SPM. Therefore, it seems that the best option for you currently is to do a Pre-U, whether STPM, A-levels or Matriculation. It would have been easier if you answered my repeated question above regarding the jurisdiction in which you would like to practise. erm... if i want to work at US that's mean i must take the law programme in US ? law school in US is a graduate course ... so ... if i wanna work at US can i study law in malaysia? then transfer to US? it's a huge question for me ...
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minshuen
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Oct 11 2009, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(pianolife @ Oct 6 2009, 02:57 PM) erm... if i want to work at US that's mean i must take the law programme in US ? law school in US is a graduate course ... so ... if i wanna work at US can i study law in malaysia? then transfer to US? it's a huge question for me ... erm...i dont think malaysia law degree will be recognised by those americans.have to study law in america if u intend to practise in US.
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edennature
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Oct 12 2009, 03:12 PM
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study law in america then admit to practice bar in Canada ,you will be able to practice in East Malaysia.like the information i shared just now,as long as you are admitted to practice law in ANY COMMONWEALTH country you are able to admit to the bar of High court of sarawak.
Added on October 12, 2009, 3:14 pmi'm not sure this rule only apply on australia,nz and uk or not.maybe my statement above is wrong.I am very sure that law graduate from aus/nz do not need to sit for clp if they want to practice in sarawak.
This post has been edited by edennature: Oct 12 2009, 03:14 PM
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jianee89
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Oct 12 2009, 07:39 PM
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Guys , I'm looking for second hand text books for land , tort , evidence and Trust.
anyone has it? pls sell to me can?
Added on October 12, 2009, 11:22 pm我要买二手的课本!!!
TORT TRUST LAND EVIDENCE
who got those textbooks wanna sell me? I buy with high price pls sell me....UOL textbooks..
This post has been edited by jianee89: Oct 12 2009, 11:22 PM
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minshuen
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Oct 15 2009, 03:15 PM
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are there any law firm provides scholarship or loan for law students?
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alsree786
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Oct 17 2009, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(minshuen @ Oct 15 2009, 03:15 PM) are there any law firm provides scholarship or loan for law students? not that i know of. I dun think there are any outright loans or scholarships...
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wornbook
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Oct 18 2009, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(pianolife @ Oct 6 2009, 02:57 PM) erm... if i want to work at US that's mean i must take the law programme in US ? law school in US is a graduate course ... so ... if i wanna work at US can i study law in malaysia? then transfer to US? it's a huge question for me ... For most states in the US, you'll have to do an LLM in an institution recognised by the American Bar Association. This applies to all foreign law degrees, not just Malaysian. Last time I checked, the state Bars of California and New York did not have this requirement. Not sure if that's still the case.
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peeyaw
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Oct 19 2009, 12:38 AM
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actually am having a big big headache of which path to choose after my final part 2 which will end in may june 2010...
was supposed to finish earlier but then i screwd it last yr... sigh...
at first i thought of actually going for a second degree if im gonna obtain a 3rd class hons cox we are not able to do clp unless if we get a 2nd lower... btw im external student ....
but now have a change of mind instead planning to do clp cox i think with clp will be a better one rite??
actually what i really want to be is a corporate lawyer... so would it be better if im gonna do my clp?
any advise??
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alsree786
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Oct 19 2009, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(peeyaw @ Oct 19 2009, 12:38 AM) actually am having a big big headache of which path to choose after my final part 2 which will end in may june 2010... was supposed to finish earlier but then i screwd it last yr... sigh... at first i thought of actually going for a second degree if im gonna obtain a 3rd class hons cox we are not able to do clp unless if we get a 2nd lower... btw im external student .... but now have a change of mind instead planning to do clp cox i think with clp will be a better one rite?? actually what i really want to be is a corporate lawyer... so would it be better if im gonna do my clp? any advise?? well considering you "really want" to be a lawyer, i would recommend going thru the clp route since you're already at final part 2. or head to uk for the bar if you feel you're up for it if you are taking EU. But i would also highlight the difficulty of passing the clp, so it would be best to determine for yourself whether you are individually capable and driven enough to go the distance and become the corporate lawyer you aspire to be...
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