1. Yea, you can. Out of curiosity, may I ask why?
2. Please check with the BSB regarding Bar Aptitude test. As far as I remember, the report stated that there are not limits on the number of attempts for the Aptitude test.
3. It depends on your institution. Some will require you to wear your gown and wig for the assessment but a suit for the training. (Wigs and Gowns are provided for the assessment)

As for the call day, you may rent them. However, the dress code for the call ceremony for each Inn differs accordingly.

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Added on September 19, 2009, 11:57 pmIMO, one of the most important thing for a barrister is research skills. Therefore, do check out http://www.lincolnsinn.org.uk/. The answers are hidden somewhere in the site. Alternatively, you may consider contacting their Treasury Office, Admission Dept.



This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Sep 19 2009, 11:57 PM

i choose gray's inn as everyone plump for lincoln's inn and middle.besides,i like its coat of arms .However,i can only going to choose it after a few years later.

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Added on September 20, 2009, 9:51 ami find the bar aptitude test section in BPP college website,this test is for overseas practitioner that wish to practice as barrister in uk.not sure the future students take this test or not..

This post has been edited by edennature: Sep 20 2009, 09:51 AM

No, it is a different one. That test has been there for quite awhile if you've read the Consolidated Regulations of The Inns of Court and The General Council of The Bar

is it a kind of psychological test which determines whether students are eligible to do bvc?

edennature,are you a law student now?

no..how about you?

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Added on September 20, 2009, 3:37 pmamong aberystwyth,northumbria and UWE ,which one is better in terms of reputation and quality.As i know,aberystwyth is considered slightly better than northumbria and uwe.

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Added on September 20, 2009, 8:29 pmi afraid that the no malaysian student will take bptc when CBC is out.

This post has been edited by edennature: Sep 20 2009, 08:29 PM

i am not a law student too but have really huge interest in practising law.i need to gt a LLB in order to enter lincoln's inn to be called to bar is it?

Like I've said, a simple research by clicking on the Admission at the website and subsequently on admission forms would give you an explanation on the procedure.

Anyway, here it is

"Please return the following forms to the Treasury Office together with:

1. Your original degree certificate — minimum requirement for admission IIii (Hons) — (If you do not wish to send this, please ask your university to produce a statement confirming your pass.)

OR

2. If you have not yet completed your degree, your original General Certificate of Education ‘O’ Level or General Certificate of Secondary Education for English Language. (If you do not wish to send this, then a statement from the appropriate authority.) Please note that grade C or above is the minimum requirement for admission to the Inn.

AND

3. Confirmation that you are pursuing a degree course. (This should take the form of a letter from the appropriate institution on their headed paper.)

You should be aware that the Inn will make enquiries to help establish your suitability for membership, if the need arises.
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Do note that certain Inns may require your degree to be a degree in law. I am not sure about Lincoln's so do contact them.

Also, there are currently changes to the application forms. So, the treasury office is still your best contact.
The admission fee is going to be increased to 100 quid.

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Added on September 21, 2009, 1:50 amIt depends on how s.3's definition of a qualified person will be amended.
:-)



This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Sep 21 2009, 01:50 AM

i wish to go cardiff after a-level.it is a nice place..

I have a question.

Is it possible to practise as a Lawyer in Malaysia if I do a postgraduate "Graduate Diploma in Law" in the UK?
From what I've read, it is possible to pursue a GDL without an undergraduate law degree.

no

can i apply for lincoln's inn by holding a local university law degree?

hey hi guys.....
im currently sitting for my Alevels n will b graduating tis comin June i hav some questions about studying law
hope u all can plz help resolve my dilemma.... haha

firstly,
wats the main difference between going for an external degree lik uni of London at atc, brickfields..... n an internal one lik twinning
teaching wise n quality of education

secondly,
for example HELP, their law course is call UK transfer where else taylors's is refered to twinning can u plz explain d pro n cons (quality of teaching, syllabus, etc....)
thirdly,

is there a much bigger advantage of taking a 1+2 course compared to a 2+1..... taking in consideration of spending much more.......

fourthly,
does a LLM serve much purpose here in Malaysia... cuz by looking around many legal counsels only holding LLb are doing very well whereas LLm holders seem to only hav d added advantage of being a lecturer...(correct me if im wrong)

currently doing science stream in combridge Alvls... recently realised not so interested in the science field as a profession.....

THX alot in advance guys...........

basically...imho

1) the main difference btw an ext llb and internal course is that in the ext UOL LLB, it is a 100% exam based qualification whereas internal programmes consider attendance, assignments etc in addition to exams. The law is primarily the same, and the quality of education varies with the institute and eventual university. The UOL Ext LLB can be done at an institute or by self studying, it is quite difficult to score since everything boils down to those 4 days a year when your exams are. Furthermore you will need a min 2:2 in order to practice whereas for internal progs (most or all?) a third class honours will suffice.

Teaching wise, for an ext prog, you dun really need to go for classes as stated, assignments and mock exams are not mandatory. What i did was to skip a whole lot of classes (not advisable) but attend revision diligently 2 or so mths before the main exams. You cant really do the same for internal progs as they may have an attendance requirement...

2) in a Uk transfer programme or a DTP (Degree Transfer Programme) you sit for internal exams at HELP etc and then apply for transfer to their affiliated unis. Whereas in the Taylors Twinning Prog, you are linked to Reading from the very start. The pros of the Taylors prog, is that if you can get in, you are already with Reading. The pros of a DTP is that you have a choice and the Pre U requirements of some of the Unis is lower than for Taylor's twinning prog...but let say for example you want to head to Cardiff as they also offer the BVC, then if you meet their requirements, the DTP would be a better choice...

3) the exposure is an advantage tho I dun really see any pros when you actually practice...I personally dun see it to be cost effective to spend another 80k or so to do a 1+2 but if you can afford it, most ppl would want to since there's a proper campus lifestyle, 2 years instead of 1 so you can adapt better...and some unis (correct me if im wrong) only consider your year (s) spent in the UK towards your hons classification, so a 2+1 might be stressful in the UK...

4) LLM is mainly a knowledge based qualification. Usually only do it if you are lecturing or giving training, but it doesn't serve much purpose and is not very useful otherwise. Doing a masters in another field like an MBA may be a better choice...as being a lawyer requires alot of marketing oneself and presentation abilities (esp if you intend to open your own firm, an MBA may be more useful in building your business)...

thanks 4 d info....

i did some research and found out it takes about GBP16k a yr in uk which is about RM90k....... d tuition fees for example at HELP is RM44k alone excluding living cost which i suspect will n around another Rm30-50k(correct me if im wrong)....... im not from KL so lodging n food is gonna contribute alot to tat...... it seems that the cost diff is very minimal....

btw, taylors twinning programme states that they hav lecturers from Readings coming in to give lectures... anyone currently attending that course or have any feedback on readings?.....

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Added on September 24, 2009, 7:30 pmsorry 4 d error ...... living cost in KL about Rm15k so there is about RM20k in diff.....

This post has been edited by blitz3r: Sep 24 2009, 07:30 PM

Yes, it is true that it takes around 90k to 100k/yr in UK. Of course, that would depends on the location.
Well, i am currently taking UK transfer degree in Brickfields Asia College. They offer quite a number of universities for the degree transfer.
The best university amongst the choices , imo, would be Cardiff which also offers BVC.

Maybe you would like to take it into consideration?...Lecturers are quite good also with experiences and some of them are practicing lawyers.
2yrs in Brickfields cost RM30K only as compared to HELP....

although it is quite expensive to stay in uk for two years,i think the life will be vry vry enjoyable.actually there are so many loans and scholarships out there,so i will strongly recommend DTP!

ya i totally agree with you there..... about going to uk.... im still deciding whether to do a DTP or Taylors twinning.... im planning to do my bar there so its either gonna be 2 or 3 yrs there from the looks of it.... ^^

thx casual for the info... ill take brickfields into consideration too......

heard that exeter is quite a good uni to study law........

university of exeter is really a good university to go.it ranks 9th in the times university rank 2010 and top 20 law school in uk.however,if i can choose from the uk universities that involve in twinning programme,i will choose university of manchester.

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Added on September 24, 2009, 9:34 pmcommon bar course is about to implement in malaysia soon.is common bar course surely will be launched?if CBC has been implemented,will malaysia still recognise BVC?it is because i am planning to do BVC after finished my LLB rather than CBC.

This post has been edited by minshuen: Sep 24 2009, 09:36 PM

BPTC/BVC might not be recognized if CBC is introduced.As for UK transfer program, basically i think HELP is the best college which offers DTP.Ranking for universities that participate in DTP-
1.University of Exeter
2.Cardiff University of Wales
3.University of Manchester
3.University of Reading
4.University of Liverpool
5.University of Sheffield
6.University of Leeds
7.University of Wales,aberystwyth
8.University of Hull
9.University of west of england
10.University of Northmbria
11.University of Hertfordshire
UWE,Northumbria and hertfordshire are not an ideal place to pursue LLB.It is totally waste of money to spend money on them..

This post has been edited by edennature: Sep 26 2009, 09:53 AM