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Model Kits Model Kits/Toys Painting, Building, Modding Thread, where the 'deja-vu are tradition in here
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Jun 9 2008, 03:14 PM
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1 posts Joined: Jun 2005 From: puchong |
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Jun 9 2008, 07:22 PM
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62 posts Joined: Oct 2007 From: Land Below the Wind, Borneo |
QUOTE(300078 @ Jun 9 2008, 08:34 AM) Frens! Which type of Tamiya Compound should i get??? Just as what I was wondering... doesn't sanding clear parts leave damage to the parts?The normal one, Fine or Ultra Fine??? Want to polish my transparent SD kit! hmm.. any tips for clear parts on how to uh, make it look nicer (e.g. cleaning the nip marks, etc)? QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Jun 8 2008, 03:10 AM) clear version freedom gundam.. nothing special about freedom's internal skeleton system le... all gray only... maybe u should get a clear version strike freedom... clear version looks god with golden internal skeleton system... EDITED: reason - googled & found info already on Strike Freedom Clear Ver This post has been edited by markiemark: Jun 9 2008, 07:53 PM |
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Jun 9 2008, 10:03 PM
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791 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: KL |
hey guys, wanna ask i using tamiya enamel for line paneling,
what is the ratio ur guys use to mix enamel with thinner? |
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Jun 9 2008, 10:48 PM
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2,966 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Macross Galaxy |
panel lining? for gundam? i recomend u to use 0.02mm gundam marker better la... easier and safer to use... gt mistake can correct some more...
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Jun 9 2008, 11:29 PM
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34 posts Joined: Sep 2007 |
QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jun 9 2008, 10:03 PM) hey guys, wanna ask i using tamiya enamel for line paneling, what is the ratio ur guys use to mix enamel with thinner? QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Jun 9 2008, 10:48 PM) panel lining? for gundam? i recomend u to use 0.02mm gundam marker better la... easier and safer to use... gt mistake can correct some more... he he belum cuba belum tau, sekali cuba lagi mau..... For this one mebbe some will tell you this and some will tell u that. i recommend u try it yourself. Obviously the paint must be dilute to a level it can flow in tight space, like a panel line. but how thin or dilute, it's totally up to you! For example, u r using enamel paint black only (without adding other color like brown), the more dilute u will find that the tone of black/gray is lighter. so u can have thousands of tones of color. if u want a natura,l magazine photographed, kinda effect, mebbe lighter. If u want a very graphic novel dark panel line, well, make it less dilute. it's like in water color class, nobody can tell you what color the car you r going to paint. it's all decided by you! So try it yourself. first, gloss coat your kit, then try lighly touch the tip of your brush onto the panel line. the paint should, by itself, flowing and filling up the gap. Look at the result, if u dont like it, hmmm too dark, use a cotton bud dip with a little tuppertine or enamel thinner, wipe it off! Play with it, it's really fun! mebbe u can do a purple panel line which nobody ever did and the result is shockingly beautiful? The main thing is not how dilute so the paint can fill the longkang, everyoine can mix more thinner to fill longkangs, the main thing is what kinda of effect you want to make your kit looks even more professional. Happy trying! |
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Jun 9 2008, 11:44 PM
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2,966 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Macross Galaxy |
QUOTE(rayloke @ Jun 9 2008, 11:29 PM) he he belum cuba belum tau, sekali cuba lagi mau..... hehe i tried once on my painted HG justice but the result doesn't turn out like what i wan la... the pressure very hard to control also... by the way... im currently learning it too haha...For this one mebbe some will tell you this and some will tell u that. i recommend u try it yourself. Obviously the paint must be dilute to a level it can flow in tight space, like a panel line. but how thin or dilute, it's totally up to you! For example, u r using enamel paint black only (without adding other color like brown), the more dilute u will find that the tone of black/gray is lighter. so u can have thousands of tones of color. if u want a natura,l magazine photographed, kinda effect, mebbe lighter. If u want a very graphic novel dark panel line, well, make it less dilute. it's like in water color class, nobody can tell you what color the car you r going to paint. it's all decided by you! So try it yourself. first, gloss coat your kit, then try lighly touch the tip of your brush onto the panel line. the paint should, by itself, flowing and filling up the gap. Look at the result, if u dont like it, hmmm too dark, use a cotton bud dip with a little tuppertine or enamel thinner, wipe it off! Play with it, it's really fun! mebbe u can do a purple panel line which nobody ever did and the result is shockingly beautiful? The main thing is not how dilute so the paint can fill the longkang, everyoine can mix more thinner to fill longkangs, the main thing is what kinda of effect you want to make your kit looks even more professional. Happy trying! |
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Jun 10 2008, 12:07 AM
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791 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: KL |
QUOTE(rayloke @ Jun 9 2008, 11:29 PM) he he belum cuba belum tau, sekali cuba lagi mau..... thanks for ur opinion...For this one mebbe some will tell you this and some will tell u that. i recommend u try it yourself. Obviously the paint must be dilute to a level it can flow in tight space, like a panel line. but how thin or dilute, it's totally up to you! For example, u r using enamel paint black only (without adding other color like brown), the more dilute u will find that the tone of black/gray is lighter. so u can have thousands of tones of color. if u want a natura,l magazine photographed, kinda effect, mebbe lighter. If u want a very graphic novel dark panel line, well, make it less dilute. it's like in water color class, nobody can tell you what color the car you r going to paint. it's all decided by you! So try it yourself. first, gloss coat your kit, then try lighly touch the tip of your brush onto the panel line. the paint should, by itself, flowing and filling up the gap. Look at the result, if u dont like it, hmmm too dark, use a cotton bud dip with a little tuppertine or enamel thinner, wipe it off! Play with it, it's really fun! mebbe u can do a purple panel line which nobody ever did and the result is shockingly beautiful? The main thing is not how dilute so the paint can fill the longkang, everyoine can mix more thinner to fill longkangs, the main thing is what kinda of effect you want to make your kit looks even more professional. Happy trying! one question, why need to gloss coat 1st before paneling? |
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Jun 10 2008, 07:19 AM
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1,447 posts Joined: Mar 2006 |
Frens and tutorial out there to teach u how to do gold paint that are really nice??? I want to start paint my Lancelot later on!
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Jun 10 2008, 10:53 AM
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34 posts Joined: Sep 2007 |
QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Jun 10 2008, 12:07 AM) good question! i learn this from very expensive and time-consuming lessons............ Basically when u see the surface with a magnifying glass, gloss finish surface is smooth, and distortion of light is less. hence the smoother the surface, the less distortion of reflected light, the more it has a mirrorlike effect, normally we will say, more gloss. While matt surface, when u magnify it, it's like tar road. the surface is rough, with a lot of small particle sticking out.. The first reason to gloss coat a little before u panel line is to smoothen the "tar road". when we do inking, the paint will try to fill up the panel line, but what if the paint is very matt? it ll fill up the gap between the paint particles too! like when u pour water on a tar road, the water not only will flow on top of the road, but also in between the small rocks. If that happen, and our cotton bud cannot clean all the paint within, we will get a effect normally called "smearing". The paint will smear and it's bad! Second, a thin layer of coating will help to protect your kit's surface. We spend a lot of time to paint our kit, and after painting, we always try to avoid touching it as much as possible to reduce risk of paint chipping, scractches etc. the smallest single mistake may cause our hours of effort in vain; like scratch by our finger nail.The coating is an extra protection. in dengeki hobby mag, they even go to the extent after each layer of weathering, they spray a little coating to protect. |
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Jun 10 2008, 11:01 AM
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34 posts Joined: Sep 2007 |
if u know z3r0717, i know he started using inking method, and after 1 or 2 kits, his panel lining is getting so beautiful.
Check out his entry for this mid year compy, i think he did it very naturally and nice. (He he z3r0, can refer your kit huh? no copyrite right? |
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Jun 10 2008, 11:56 AM
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791 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: KL |
thanks rayloke to share ur experience
so top coat first, inking then top coat again??? |
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Jun 10 2008, 12:41 PM
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1,447 posts Joined: Mar 2006 |
For me panel lining with Enamel is really time saving and easy! U just dip it on to ur kit it automatic feels the line.....want to clean up just used back the enamel thinner to wipe it! And yup u guys need to used Gloss top coat first so it can make it smoother and easier to wipe!
Guys back to my Gold paint question up there.....any advise? |
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Jun 10 2008, 06:02 PM
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2,239 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: K.L |
QUOTE(rayloke @ Jun 10 2008, 11:01 AM) if u know z3r0717, i know he started using inking method, and after 1 or 2 kits, his panel lining is getting so beautiful. aiks... no la... mine still very messy.. hehe.... anyway, thanks for the compliment..Check out his entry for this mid year compy, i think he did it very naturally and nice. (He he z3r0, can refer your kit huh? no copyrite right? |
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Jun 10 2008, 09:57 PM
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2,966 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Macross Galaxy |
QUOTE(300078 @ Jun 10 2008, 12:41 PM) For me panel lining with Enamel is really time saving and easy! U just dip it on to ur kit it automatic feels the line.....want to clean up just used back the enamel thinner to wipe it! And yup u guys need to used Gloss top coat first so it can make it smoother and easier to wipe! 300078,Guys back to my Gold paint question up there.....any advise? theres a few methods for gold paint depends on your desire on what kind of gold u like... 1. if u like the old type of gold, get the mr color no.9... 2. if u wan darker gold, get mr color metallic gold no.217... 3. if u wan "1/100 oowashi/shiranui akatsuki" or "strike freedom full burst mode skeleton system" type of yellow gold, spray a layer of chrome silver on top your kit and then spray a layer of clear yellow on top the chrome silver layer but remember in this method, your yellow layer must be same thick every where or else the thicker yellow paint parts will have a darker yellowish gold comparing to other parts of the painted body... also remember to adjust the yellowness of the yellow by adding clear orange to make it darker... add clear(no.46) to lighter the yellow but i don suggest you to do so cuz natural gold colour should be yellowish the third method is tested by myself so it is proved to work but if u wan example pic for it then im sorry cuz i din do it on my kit, i help other people do... please try it on a runner for testing 1st before u do on your kit because it's not that easy... and remember to gloss the surface to make it nicer |
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Jun 11 2008, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Jun 10 2008, 09:57 PM) 300078, wow thx i was trying to look for the 3 method! I remember reading it before but cant find it back, and i also remember seeing erix did some tutorial on the gold paint but i search the ZeroG tutorial but found none!theres a few methods for gold paint depends on your desire on what kind of gold u like... 1. if u like the old type of gold, get the mr color no.9... 2. if u wan darker gold, get mr color metallic gold no.217... 3. if u wan "1/100 oowashi/shiranui akatsuki" or "strike freedom full burst mode skeleton system" type of yellow gold, spray a layer of chrome silver on top your kit and then spray a layer of clear yellow on top the chrome silver layer but remember in this method, your yellow layer must be same thick every where or else the thicker yellow paint parts will have a darker yellowish gold comparing to other parts of the painted body... also remember to adjust the yellowness of the yellow by adding clear orange to make it darker... add clear(no.46) to lighter the yellow but i don suggest you to do so cuz natural gold colour should be yellowish the third method is tested by myself so it is proved to work but if u wan example pic for it then im sorry cuz i din do it on my kit, i help other people do... please try it on a runner for testing 1st before u do on your kit because it's not that easy... and remember to gloss the surface to make it nicer Will carry it out on my Lancelot! |
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Jun 11 2008, 10:49 AM
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26 posts Joined: May 2008 |
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Jun 11 2008, 12:24 PM
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62 posts Joined: Oct 2007 From: Land Below the Wind, Borneo |
QUOTE(yamyinhao @ Jun 11 2008, 10:49 AM) hi guy Nail polish? You mean color the whole mech with Nail polish? umm, care to enlighten me a bit i didn't know to do panel lining have alot of step i do panel lining using permanent marker 0.01 and for colour i use my wife nail polish this is not complete yet try to finish it by this week i havent heard of this tip before. maybe can share it here? This post has been edited by markiemark: Jun 11 2008, 12:25 PM |
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Jun 11 2008, 12:58 PM
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2,287 posts Joined: Jun 2007 From: Anno Domini Time Ultra: 1,000,000 Trans Am Attack! |
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Jun 11 2008, 01:01 PM
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2,239 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: K.L |
i guess, there's only 1 way which is using ur design knife to slowly clean off the nips... u cant sand them unless u wan to scratch them or........ if u wan to sand them then u spray another color or clear coats
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Jun 11 2008, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jun 11 2008, 12:58 PM) go buy the Tamiya Compound to polish ur thing! Then sure will leave no mark, it can even turn a scratch clear part back into shinny form!!!!!!!!My question about the compound is just one page in front of this! |
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