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iSean
post May 1 2025, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ May 1 2025, 05:50 PM)
Top G = Top dollar.

4 years and not 6k is not unusual. Perhaps I think that's normal Assuming you've gotten a promo.

Which company paying Masters freshies 7k?

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I am not sure, need to adjust for inflation I guess. And competition introduced by PFCC (Selangor IC Design Hub).
Afaik some junior from Skyechip was offered RM 10k after GT and 1 year+ working experience, and already people considering jumping out to Singapore already.

From the ad, it is SkyeChip and Oppstar and MaiStorage, need to dig back 2024 post, I think I got post before. What PFCC brings company to Malaysia with the ARM IP Licensing stuff to Malaysia Fabless Design Hubs.


QUOTE(pillage2001 @ May 1 2025, 05:50 PM)
Top G = Top dollar.
Again, after 2022, Intel's compensation has been bad.
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Also I technically should have left Intel after 2022, I finished my Graduate Trainee in IPG and failed to convert, because boss plan to extend me. But I feel safer convert Blue Badge, for the sakes of luls join Intel Malaysia 50th Anniversary.

Since my exFabless Colleagues joined Intel, pulled me in, want earn my referral.

Pulled me in, do 3 months of work, and resigned go on work holiday.... doh.gif
Walao....

Luckily this boat I join is a good boat. Else I also want to jump out and burn the headcount already.
Kesian my manager and director liao.

[2021-05] RM 3.3k - Undergrad GT + Hire Bonus RM 1.65K
[2021-11] RM 3.823k - First Class Honor verified
[2022-01] RM 4k - allignment for GT/G3/G5
[2022-05] Left IPG for PSG. RM 4k + 6% increment
[2022-09] Intel's CEO Pat announce Austerity Measures
Stagnant salary for whole 1 year++
[2024-03] Finally gotten my G5 conversion. They seems to compressed and realigned salary with my focal and G5 together in the same time slot... So no multipplier. But it was a 22% jump? Not sure it is normal RM5.12k
[2025-01] Alterians 10% Salary jump. RM 5.638k, then no more RM 80 food subsidy, replaced with RM 120 taxable (effective should be RM 80)


So, look back to what PFCC been doing recently in 2024.
I'm definitely under market value. laugh.gif


Meanwhile Singapore peeps already SGD5k for Fresh Grad. I wondering the only reason I am still here because I love my job and my company culture and I still can survive with my current daily expenses. laugh.gif

This post has been edited by iSean: May 1 2025, 10:36 PM
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post May 1 2025, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 1 2025, 05:59 PM)
this one must be someone in Intel already did it for you lah, especially the microarchitect designer as they are the one that define the spec. for any new project the microarchitect designer will come out with the documentation one. and i believe this kind of documentation is done in any company, not unique to Intel only.

I don't believe that there is no documentation in AMD. else, how other engineers do the work without reference and it is unproductive. unless one man show then no need documentation lah or you are the boss then need to come out with document yourself lor, for other engineers to use, which is expected.
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Disclaimer: "this comments are very allegedly"
afaik, my team has overseas folks who used to be ex-CW who worked in AMD, and they have all documentation, full transparency.
They claimed Intel documentation is very locked down, slow and not reflected often, and very patchy.

To me, the MAS/HAS here only serve bare minimum purpose and doesn't fully elabroate the functionality of my test bench testing.
Really need another documentation for that. shakehead.gif

Sometimes I wonder why everything so locked down in between BUs, unless IP between BUs are not shared and sold. Or got some special licensing royalties things.
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post May 1 2025, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ May 1 2025, 10:17 PM)
To me, the MAS/HAS here only serve bare minimum purpose and doesn't fully elabroate the functionality of my test bench testing.
Really need another documentation for that.  shakehead.gif
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exactly my experience 👍
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post May 1 2025, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ May 1 2025, 10:13 PM)
I am not sure, need to adjust for inflation I guess. And competition introduced by PFCC (Selangor IC Design Hub).
Afaik some junior from Skyechip was offered RM 10k after GT and 1 year+ working experience, and already people considering jumping out to Singapore already.
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so they move to Singapore already?
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post May 2 2025, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 1 2025, 05:59 PM)
this one must be someone in Intel already did it for you lah, especially the microarchitect designer as they are the one that define the spec. for any new project the microarchitect designer will come out with the documentation one. and i believe this kind of documentation is done in any company, not unique to Intel only.

I don't believe that there is no documentation in AMD. else, how other engineers do the work without reference and it is unproductive. unless one man show then no need documentation lah or you are the boss then need to come out with document yourself lor, for other engineers to use, which is expected.
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Of course someone within Intel have done it. My point is that documents as such are accessible.

Prolly I shouldn't say no documentation at AMD, maybe it's just harder to procur? I don't know. Have only worked in intel. biggrin.gif
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post May 2 2025, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(iSean @ May 1 2025, 10:13 PM)
I am not sure, need to adjust for inflation I guess. And competition introduced by PFCC (Selangor IC Design Hub).
Afaik some junior from Skyechip was offered RM 10k after GT and 1 year+ working experience, and already people considering jumping out to Singapore already.

From the ad, it is SkyeChip and Oppstar and MaiStorage, need to dig back 2024 post, I think I got post before. What PFCC brings company to Malaysia with the ARM IP Licensing stuff to Malaysia Fabless Design Hubs.
Also I technically should have left Intel after 2022, I finished my Graduate Trainee in IPG and failed to convert, because boss plan to extend me. But I feel safer convert Blue Badge, for the sakes of luls join Intel Malaysia 50th Anniversary.

Since my exFabless Colleagues joined Intel, pulled me in, want earn my referral.

Pulled me in, do 3 months of work, and resigned go on work holiday....  doh.gif
Walao....

Luckily this boat I join is a good boat. Else I also want to jump out and burn the headcount already.
Kesian my manager and director liao.

[2021-05] RM 3.3k - Undergrad GT + Hire Bonus RM 1.65K
[2021-11] RM 3.823k  - First Class Honor verified
[2022-01] RM 4k - allignment for GT/G3/G5
[2022-05] Left IPG for PSG. RM 4k + 6% increment
[2022-09] Intel's CEO Pat announce Austerity Measures
Stagnant salary for whole 1 year++
[2024-03] Finally gotten my G5 conversion. They seems to compressed and realigned salary with my focal and G5 together in the same time slot... So no multipplier. But it was a 22% jump? Not sure it is normal RM5.12k
[2025-01] Alterians 10% Salary jump. RM 5.638k, then no more RM 80 food subsidy, replaced with RM 120 taxable (effective should be RM 80)
So, look back to what PFCC been doing recently in 2024.
I'm definitely under market value.  laugh.gif
Meanwhile Singapore peeps already SGD5k for Fresh Grad. I wondering the only reason I am still here because I love my job and my company culture and I still can survive with my current daily expenses.  laugh.gif
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So you're over at Altera still? 3 years from 4k to 5.6k isn't that bad. Assuming you're not the top 10% every year, it's normal growth.

Can't compare singapore and here. Diff cost of livings as well as standards. As always mentioned, some things money can't buy.

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post May 2 2025, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ May 2 2025, 12:25 AM)
So you're over at Altera still? 3 years from 4k to 5.6k isn't that bad. Assuming you're not the top 10% every year, it's normal growth.

Can't compare singapore and here. Diff cost of livings as well as standards. As always mentioned, some things money can't buy.
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i got one junior. joined as G5 master fresh graduate same year as iSean.

by Dec2024, promoted to G6 and current salary is around 7.5k already in addition to RSU grant.
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post May 2 2025, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ May 2 2025, 12:25 AM)
So you're over at Altera still? 3 years from 4k to 5.6k isn't that bad. Assuming you're not the top 10% every year, it's normal growth.

Can't compare singapore and here. Diff cost of livings as well as standards. As always mentioned, some things money can't buy.
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yep still in Altera. so give and take. But abit sad just that PFCC haven't let us go for higher salary abit only.
10% is everyone's salary within Altera lah....

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post May 2 2025, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 2 2025, 01:00 AM)
i got one junior. joined as G5 master fresh graduate same year as iSean.

by Dec2024, promoted to G6 and current salary is around 7.5k already in addition to RSU grant.
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mega_shok.gif bobian lo, if no job mismatch, got req. then G6 ok lah.
I no masters. Masters really might be abit help only salary only lah.

Alot of Masters manage to get GT -> G5 conversation.
Else GT (Undergrad) -> G5 won't be happening anytime soon, or very rare.
But I feel if the candidate is skilled. Then sure no issues.

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post May 2 2025, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 2 2025, 01:00 AM)
i got one junior. joined as G5 master fresh graduate same year as iSean.

by Dec2024, promoted to G6 and current salary is around 7.5k already in addition to RSU grant.
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Woah. G6 got 7.5k still? Lol. Lucky for him.

But lucky Intel still got 6% adjustment in march. So this year doesn't look too bad.
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QUOTE(iSean @ May 1 2025, 10:13 PM)
I am not sure, need to adjust for inflation I guess. And competition introduced by PFCC (Selangor IC Design Hub).
Afaik some junior from Skyechip was offered RM 10k after GT and 1 year+ working experience, and already people considering jumping out to Singapore already.

From the ad, it is SkyeChip and Oppstar and MaiStorage, need to dig back 2024 post, I think I got post before. What PFCC brings company to Malaysia with the ARM IP Licensing stuff to Malaysia Fabless Design Hubs.
Also I technically should have left Intel after 2022, I finished my Graduate Trainee in IPG and failed to convert, because boss plan to extend me. But I feel safer convert Blue Badge, for the sakes of luls join Intel Malaysia 50th Anniversary.

Since my exFabless Colleagues joined Intel, pulled me in, want earn my referral.

Pulled me in, do 3 months of work, and resigned go on work holiday....  doh.gif
Walao....

Luckily this boat I join is a good boat. Else I also want to jump out and burn the headcount already.
Kesian my manager and director liao.

[2021-05] RM 3.3k - Undergrad GT + Hire Bonus RM 1.65K
[2021-11] RM 3.823k  - First Class Honor verified
[2022-01] RM 4k - allignment for GT/G3/G5
[2022-05] Left IPG for PSG. RM 4k + 6% increment
[2022-09] Intel's CEO Pat announce Austerity Measures
Stagnant salary for whole 1 year++
[2024-03] Finally gotten my G5 conversion. They seems to compressed and realigned salary with my focal and G5 together in the same time slot... So no multipplier. But it was a 22% jump? Not sure it is normal RM5.12k
[2025-01] Alterians 10% Salary jump. RM 5.638k, then no more RM 80 food subsidy, replaced with RM 120 taxable (effective should be RM 80)
So, look back to what PFCC been doing recently in 2024.
I'm definitely under market value.  laugh.gif
Meanwhile Singapore peeps already SGD5k for Fresh Grad. I wondering the only reason I am still here because I love my job and my company culture and I still can survive with my current daily expenses.  laugh.gif
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Not bad RM5.6k + RM120 foods allowance. No transport or phone allowance?
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post May 2 2025, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(derthvadar @ May 2 2025, 11:46 PM)
Not bad RM5.6k + RM120 foods allowance. No transport or phone allowance?
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nope. No transport and phone allowance.
But Intel has Travel Shuttle in between work.
Technically I was given linearity to be able to WFH for these past 4 years.

I am technically happier I am closer to my friends and family in KL.
Rather than to adapt and surviving in Penang. When the office is near vacant since reopening.
With all new faces that I never meet before.
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post May 5 2025, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(iSean @ May 2 2025, 11:49 PM)
nope. No transport and phone allowance.
But Intel has Travel Shuttle in between work.
Technically I was given linearity to be able to WFH for these past 4 years.

I am technically happier I am closer to my friends and family in KL.
Rather than to adapt and surviving in Penang. When the office is near vacant since reopening.
With all new faces that I never meet before.
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I heard latest from junior. at PFCC Puchong aka Malaysia IC Design Center, for fresh graduate probation salary including allowance (don't care degree or masters):

Skyechip: 7k to 8k
Maistorage: 6k
Starfive: 5k to 5.5k

which means Intel is underpaying at Penang. lol. similar to Oppstar and Infinecs.

This post has been edited by ipohps3: May 5 2025, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 5 2025, 08:26 PM)
I heard latest from junior. at PFCC Puchong aka Malaysia IC Design Center, for fresh graduate probation salary including allowance (don't care degree or masters):

Skyechip: 7k to 8k
Maistorage: 6k
Starfive: 5k to 5.5k

which means Intel is underpaying at Penang. lol. similar to Oppstar and Infinecs.
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Diff cost of living. ahahha
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QUOTE(iSean @ May 1 2025, 01:18 AM)
What are top Gs? Top Guns?

need Chipz to comment on Lattice I guess.

What about the PFCC / Selangor IC Design Park bunch from Oppstar, SkyeChipe, MaiStorage, etc...



3.5 years in Intel (IPG+PSG), 0.5 years in Altera.

I haven't reach RM 6k.
Fresh Grads are paid higher than me, those with Masters RM 7k...

Meanwhile I do burst liver monkey work RM 5k for near 4 years...
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Lattice is still hiring, although not as much as before as we have just opened another office in India, so more headcounts go into there as well
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ May 5 2025, 11:21 PM)
Lattice is still hiring, although not as much as before as we have just opened another office in India, so more headcounts go into there as well
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India Engineer good? from my company experience, don't have good impression.
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 6 2025, 01:32 PM)
India Engineer good? from my company experience, don't have good impression.
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For semicon/VLSI/IT field, India has a large talent pool and the cost is still relatively low which is why many companies are opening sites there.
Whether Indian engineer is good - look at the CEO of Google, Microsoft, Micron, Cadence etc
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ May 6 2025, 03:23 PM)
For semicon/VLSI/IT field, India has a large talent pool and the cost is still relatively low which is why many companies are opening sites there.
Whether Indian engineer is good - look at the CEO of Google, Microsoft, Micron, Cadence etc
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being the boss and kuli engineer are different. boss need to know how to talk, persuade, and find investment/business, not necessarily technically sound.
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post May 6 2025, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(ChipZ @ May 6 2025, 03:23 PM)
For semicon/VLSI/IT field, India has a large talent pool and the cost is still relatively low which is why many companies are opening sites there.
Whether Indian engineer is good - look at the CEO of Google, Microsoft, Micron, Cadence etc
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When you know Intel India, pays higher than Intel Malaysia, you know how drastically underpaid our Malaysians Intel Engineers are.
Are we are truly the 3rd world country, worst than India. laugh.gif
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Don't really have good experience with the India site. They are good at shouting and escalating to get everybody to own their issues but rarely good enough to work on their own problems. There are good ones but most of my experience are them shouting for people to solve their problems.

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