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JeffreyYap
post Jan 12 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Jan 11 2012, 10:20 PM)
22 yrs old, can save rm2k for investment. good move jeffrey.

since u r very new to UT. and if u cannot wait.
why not u just start with rm1k and DDI rm100 only  just for PCSF. at the same time educate urself abt UT too. subscribe to the edge personal money willl useful for u.

the rest of the money, just park in FD first until u really understand wht is UT abt.

putting 40% from ur salary in 1 fund is not a right move/ wise idea for u. eventhough ur risk factor is very high aggressive.

do hv any insurance? if not buy insurance first. medical card  enough with full coverage. investment link policy is not fit for u because u r very aggressive for high return.

just my 2 cents.
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Ya, thats why, i still young, thats why high risk is not a problem for me. But still, i think i go for domestic better. My agent told me election is coming, so go for China lol.

Just informed my friend i will go for Public Regular Saving Fund. Ya i have insurance, thank bro, i will start with low first until i understand what is UT about.


Added on January 12, 2012, 11:11 am
QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 12 2012, 10:59 AM)
If you are not familiar with UT/fund, you can start with small sum at first, then keep the rest of money for future.

DDI can be bad if you are not knowing what you are doing.
DDI can be bad if the fund is not performing.

There is needless for one must adopt DDI to invest into a fund.

Agents surely promote hard on DDI, because it means more and constant commission from it.  tongue.gif


Added on January 12, 2012, 11:00 amThere is one fund that loss 60% over 4 years time frame, if doing DDI on this fund, it sinks you into deeper hole only.
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Besides DDI, what else i can do without service charge or whatever charge, i only know if annual the fund performs good, then got distribution payout, then if i reinvest, i no need to pay service charge(if not mistaken). Even lump sum requires service charge. I thought UT only got DDI(which bank in monthly for your selected fund), Can you briefly explain a bit?

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post Jan 12 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 12 2012, 11:06 AM)
Ya, thats why, i still young, thats why high risk is not a problem for me. But still, i think i go for domestic better. My agent told me election is coming, so go for China lol.

Just informed my friend i will go for Public Regular Saving Fund. Ya i have insurance, thank bro, i will start with low first until i understand what is UT about.
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Election has nothing to do or alter the fund performance.
It is bullsh*t statement to say election is coming better invest in China. No related at all.

If you don't know how China stock market is performing or issue of China stocks, please google it.
And ask those people invested in China related fund experience as well.

Money is not easy to come by, but easy to lose, so always ensure knowing what you invested before committing.
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post Jan 12 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 12 2012, 10:06 AM)
why the need for investment objectives when the invested fund is down by 23%?

you said DDI would help, so i m asking how would it help and are there better alternatives. But you insisted that i read the fund objectives which i have done but what the conclusion?  Now i  rclxub.gif
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I do said DDI will help, but i didnt mention for which fund. Do i? if u ask DDI will help for not performing fund, even god also cannot answer.

and u ask me which fund better for u.

even u read the objective, u still cannot find which fund is match for u.

i even dont know who u r? ur age? ur risk factor? how i goingt to guides u?

i cannot suggest smallcap fund for u if u 70 yrs old and go for DDI.

i cannot suggest money market fund for u if u 20 yrs old and go for DDI.

so, ur plan/objective is very important for choosing the fund, beside the investment methods.
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post Jan 12 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 12 2012, 11:12 AM)
Election has nothing to do or alter the fund performance.
It is bullsh*t statement to say election is coming better invest in China. No related at all.

If you don't know how China stock market is performing or issue of China stocks, please google it.
And ask those people invested in China related fund experience as well.

Money is not easy to come by, but easy to lose, so always ensure knowing what you invested before committing.
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Agreed with cherroy, whether is Malaysia National Eelection or not this year (2012), it does not matter or I would say no direct relevant to the fund's performance.

PRSF is one of good fund...- JeffreyYap thumbup.gif Go go go...but remember not to put one big lump sum lo.
This fund has re bounced fast enough from RM0.62xx to RM0.64xx in the last few weeks. hehe...I have a portfolio > +50% for this fund. (Invested 3 years ago)
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post Jan 12 2012, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 12 2012, 11:12 AM)
Election has nothing to do or alter the fund performance.
It is bullsh*t statement to say election is coming better invest in China. No related at all.

If you don't know how China stock market is performing or issue of China stocks, please google it.
And ask those people invested in China related fund experience as well.

Money is not easy to come by, but easy to lose, so always ensure knowing what you invested before committing.
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IF BN were to lose more seats or worse, FALL, KLSE gonna go bananas...
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post Jan 12 2012, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(transit @ Jan 12 2012, 12:14 PM)
Agreed with cherroy, whether is Malaysia National Eelection or not this year (2012), it does not matter or I would say no direct relevant to the fund's performance.

PRSF is one of good fund...- JeffreyYap  thumbup.gif Go go go...but remember not to put one big lump sum lo.
This fund has re bounced fast enough from RM0.62xx to RM0.64xx in the last few weeks. hehe...I have a portfolio > +50% for this fund. (Invested 3 years ago)
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Thank transit! I think my friend submitted already. I put RM2k capital smile.gif, anyway, this PRSF considers aggressive type right.
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post Jan 12 2012, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 12 2012, 11:06 AM)
Ya, thats why, i still young, thats why high risk is not a problem for me. But still, i think i go for domestic better. My agent told me election is coming, so go for China lol.

Just informed my friend i will go for Public Regular Saving Fund. Ya i have insurance, thank bro, i will start with low first until i understand what is UT about.


Added on January 12, 2012, 11:11 am
Besides DDI, what else i can do without service charge or whatever charge, i only know if annual the fund performs good, then got distribution payout, then if i reinvest, i no need to pay service charge(if not mistaken). Even lump sum requires service charge. I thought UT only got DDI(which bank in monthly for your selected fund), Can you briefly explain a bit?
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election is only for short term, no big impact. do china no election at all? if ur agent worry abt the election, u can wait for the election over. no issue because u still young.

PRSF is good local fund. 100% in local only, its a moderate risk profile funds. i also hv this fund. good move to start with tis first.

take note, ur risk tolerance is high risk, so, later u can concider higher risk fund after u hv knowledge abt UT.

either DDI or lump sum, still need to pay SC/managment fee/ trustee fees n others if any.
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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 12 2012, 01:29 PM)
Thank transit! I think my friend submitted already. I put RM2k capital smile.gif, anyway, this PRSF considers aggressive type right.
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bro, u 1 shot dump RM2K meh...start with the minimum, then slowly buy in small sums every month/bi-monthly mar... doh.gif
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post Jan 12 2012, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 12 2012, 01:29 PM)
Thank transit! I think my friend submitted already. I put RM2k capital smile.gif, anyway, this PRSF considers aggressive type right.
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ur DDI amount?
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post Jan 12 2012, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Jan 12 2012, 01:38 PM)
ur DDI amount?
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How much u suggest? How about 1k?
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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Jan 12 2012, 11:30 AM)
I do said DDI will help, but i didnt mention for which fund. Do i? if u ask DDI will help for not performing fund, even god also cannot answer.

and u ask me which fund better for u.

even u read the objective, u still cannot find which fund is match for u.

i even dont know who u r? ur age? ur risk factor? how i goingt to guides u?

i cannot suggest smallcap fund for u if u 70 yrs old and go for DDI.

i cannot suggest money market fund for u if u 20 yrs old and go for DDI.

so,  ur plan/objective is very important for choosing the fund, beside the investment methods.
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Sorry can't agree the statement DDI will help.
It works on certain circumstances.

I can answer, but I am not god. laugh.gif
DDI in not performing fund - greater loss incurred. tongue.gif

DDI only help provided the fund is performing afterwards.
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post Jan 12 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 12 2012, 01:33 PM)
bro, u 1 shot dump RM2K meh...start with the minimum, then slowly buy in small sums every month/bi-monthly mar... doh.gif
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Nvm, bought lol.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 12 2012, 01:15 PM)
IF BN were to lose more seats or worse, FALL, KLSE gonna go bananas...
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Then time to buy... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 12 2012, 01:41 PM)
Sorry can't agree the statement DDI will help.
It works on certain circumstances.

I can answer, but I am not god.  laugh.gif
DDI in not performing fund - greater loss incurred.  tongue.gif

DDI only help provided the fund is performing afterwards.
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Mathematically, lump sum would be best if "fund is performing afterwards". DDI just helps diversify over time (vs Asset Classes or sub-classes)
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 12 2012, 01:42 PM)
Then time to buy...  rclxms.gif
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that's why now I only invest monthly RM100 in my malaysian balanced fund...if BN kena sapu, saya sapu more units brows.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jan 12 2012, 01:45 PM)
Mathematically, lump sum would be best if "fund is performing afterwards". DDI just helps diversify over time (vs Asset Classes or sub-classes)
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Can briefly explain where can i check and how can i know the fund is performing? Sorry i ask here because my friend at Puchong, so hard to meet him. And after register an Public Mutual account from my agent, i can trade, sell and buy funds at Public Mutual website right? Thank
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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Jan 12 2012, 01:51 PM)
Can briefly explain where can i check and how can i know the fund is performing? Sorry i ask here because my friend at Puchong, so hard to meet him. And after register an Public Mutual account from my agent, i can trade, sell and buy funds at Public Mutual website right? Thank
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go Public Mutual website, all UT fund houses surely will have monthly fund reports and interim/annual reports on their website icon_rolleyes.gif
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y u buy public mutual?

its fund not at the top 10 of the chart on 3 yr lipper ranking
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post Jan 12 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 12 2012, 01:59 PM)
y u buy public mutual?

its fund not at the top 10 of the chart on 3 yr lipper ranking
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OSK on ranking right?
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