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post Apr 18 2008, 05:25 PM, updated 18y ago

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STOP!
Please remake your votes here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=97&t=677793&st=0

Ok gamers.Hey wait..what about Nintendo Wii?
Hmmm for Nintendo Wii I won't compare it because it is a different type of console and of course gamers will say things like graphics,casual games and this console is a fair friendly console so it doesn't stick to it.
Yes.Results says Nintendo Wii selling the most.Yeap congrats Nintendo! rclxms.gif
This topic is the comparison between xbox360 and ps3
Ohh!! So tough to decide!! shakehead.gif

I got this video from youtube.
This guy is judging the xbox360 and ps3 himself.
Take a look at this video and see whether is there anything you want to comment abt it before we move on.




LETS see what gamers say

watch the video and give comments here and wait till the results comes.

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Ok the videos that this guy posted some things are right and not right.
Why?
I mean look....he didn't even mention the games right.
Xbox360 has FAR more games compared to ps3.
We are to enjoy and play more games as we can to satisfy ourselves.
Also,you can burn hdvd games for modded,so this is the part where consumers are possesed at.


xbox360 exclusive game that are releases and unreleased yet. *TO DATE*

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PS3
exclusive games that are releases and unreleased yet. *TO DATE*

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So in terms of exclusive games releases I will go for Xbox360.

ps3 0 - xbox360 1

As I said something aren't right.
The xbox360 graphics a.k.a xenon.
The guys posted in the video he didn't know what's the capacity of xenos and he gives 1 score each.LOL?
I tell you guys.Xenon has a higher capacity compared to PS3'S graphics.
Why?
This battle will be very similar to last generation.

32-bit FP madd
PS2 CPU - 6.0 GFLOPS
Xbox CPU - 2.932 GFLOPS

PS3 Cell - 204.8 GFLOPS
Xbox CPU - 115.2 GFLOPS

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PS3
Not exact, but similar. You even program them the same way - Cell being a major pain to program and very flexible, XCPU being a piece of cake but less flexible. The difference lies in the video cards. PS3 and X360 will have similar video cards - Xbox's video philosophy is implemented on the PS3 (large memory, little cache, seperate pixel/vertex shaders). So RSX can provide a lot of power - rendering a game like GoW at 1080p. When combined with Cell, lets just say big things will happen. It could be a while before anyone starts using Cell for graphics though.

But even then widespread use is unlikely (like Emotion Engine utilization for PS2). So Cell is a good word to describe the chip, since developers feel as if they are in a 'cell' when first trying to program it, constrained by local memory management, no brand prediction on the SPEs, assembler programming, SPE kernel management for seven processors, etc. Loop unrolling is practially mandatory (128 vector registers for each SPE) as well as compiler modicactions. Of course things won't as bad as the Emotion Engine, where developers had no cache, tools, documentation, examples, tutorials, or how-to guides on how to use EE, making them feel very angry EMOTIONS while trying to develop for it.

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Xbox360
Xenon has the juice to provide developers full-optimization of its CPU with quick turnaround time. Microsoft being the benevolent software company that they are, have given Xenon the best development environment yet seen on a console (as said by John Carmack). The dot-product instruction makes running 3D code easier then before, along with copious cache and branch prediction.

But Microsoft forgot about programming ease when they decided to include TWO threads per each of the three cores of the CPU. Parallezing your code among three processors caused lots of Emotion on PS2, and will undoubtedly cause similar Emotions on X360. At least X360 has plenty of cache and good tools.

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Terms of graphics.Xbox360 wins

ps3 0 - xbox360 2

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Ok now lets move on to physical dimensions and design cool2.gif
The guys posted in this video did not mention the physicial dimension as is not so important to him I guess.
He didn't even post completely the editions/designs/models that the xbox360 released same goes to Ps3.
So is quite unfair at that case.
But in this case things are yet to be resulted correctly and true.

The Xbоx360 weights 7.7 pounds (3.5 kg) and is:

309 mm wide x 83 mm high x 258 mm deep

12.15 in wide x 3.27 in high x 10.15 in deep

The PS3 weights 11 pounds(5kg)

sorry gamers,I don't have the measurements for PS3 yet.
but 11 pounds is quite heavy though.

So PS3 lacks in physical dimensions.As you can see.

PS3 are available in piano black(original colour),ceramic white and satin silver not to mention the models of 40gb and 80gb
(20gb and 60gb stop production f.y.i)
Most gamers likes piano black in colour not to mention ceramic white and satin silver.
But in editions and designs are only ONE with DIFFERENT colours RESPECTIVELY.

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Xbox360 has a halo3 edition(spartan green and gold finsih),elite edition(black) and the premium(original colour) not to mention 20gb and 120gb models.
But in editions and designs are only THREE with ONE colour RESPECTIVELY.
In future there maybe more editions and designs.
[FACTS]
MS can release halo3 edition in xbox360 why not Gears of Wars and Assasin Creed?
So is possible.

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In physical dimensions are not a problem for PS3 although Xbox360 is lighter than ps3.
But in designs and editions is important for us gamers.
It gives us choices of varieties of designs and editions for us to choose.
ps3:0 xbox360:3

Should I give a chance to Sony for future improvements?

ps3:1 xbox360:3

What about the controllers?

XBox360 Controller

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Features

2.4GHz wireless technology with 30-foot range
Use up to four Wireless Controllers simultaneously with one console
Integrated headset port for Xbox Live play
Adjustable vibration feedback for longer battery life
New left and right shoulder buttons are designed for ease of use
Use the Xbox 360 Guide button to keep track of your friends, access your games and media, or power on and off your Xbox 360 console

Description

High-performance wireless gaming is here! Using optimized technology, the Xbox 360 Wireless Controller lets you enjoy a 30-foot range and up to 40 hours of life on the two included AA batteries-and when they run low, you're given ample warning so you can connect a Play & Charge Kit for uninterrupted play. Plug the Xbox 360 Headset into the controller for full duplex (both directions at once) voice communication: a wireless first. With quick access to Xbox 360 features including DVDs, music, pictures, and more, along with the ability to support four wireless controllers simultaneously, gamers can experience wireless freedom, precision, high quality, and performance for endless gameplay.

Note: One of the most significant changes in the Xbox 360 Controller compared to the original Xbox controller is the addition of the left and right bumpers. Unlike the original Xbox controller, the Xbox 360 Controller does not have a black button or a white button. The black and white buttons were replaced by the left and right bumpers. The left and right bumpers are located on the top of the controller above the triggers.

PS3 DualShock 3 Controller

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Features

Pressure sensors that rumble with each action making every impact feel like you're right in the game
SIXAXIS(tm) highly sensitive motion control system senses your every move
Features Bluetooth technology for wireless game play; the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system can support up to seven wireless controllers at one time
Can be charged at any time through the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system using the controller's USB cable

Description

The DUALSHOCK(R)3 wireless controller for the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system provides the most intuitive game play experience with pressure sensors in each action button and the inclusion of the highly sensitive SIXAXIS(tm) motion sensing technology. Each hit, crash and explosion is more realistic when the user feels the rumble right in the palm of their hand. It can even detect natural movements for real-time and high precision interactive play, acting as a natural extension of the user's body.

DUALSHOCK 3 utilizes Bluetooth technology for wireless game play and the controller's USB cable to seamlessly and automatically charge the controller through the PLAYSTATION(R)3 at anytime. By integrating all of these features into the popular PlayStation controller design, the DUALSHOCK 3 will further enhance the advanced game play experience only available on the PLAYSTATION(R)3 system.

So which one is better?
Honestly I am getting use to PS buttons and it is comfortable.
Before xbox released.I had a ps2 long time ago.So I was and still a playstation owner.It does not need as many buttons to controll compared to the xbox360.
In looks,Xbox360 has the ugliest childish controller. Look at the buttons it comes with colourful colours.Man that sucks.But it looks better in halo3 edition.From the back view it looks awful with the battery pack on it.
Dualshock 3 in all colours looks very neat and tidy looking.
From the back view it looks good too.
Also,Dualshock 3 is lighter than the xbox360 controller
I won't compare how many controllers that you can use in 1 console because I do no need that many so were you.
Also xbox360 controller with 30foot range I would say is further than enough.You don't need a 70foot range unless you're playing on a screen projector.
The guy posted in the video says xbox360 does not have play and charge kit and no vibrations.Lol?
Both xbox360 and ps3 has a play and charge kit and have an adjustable vibration system.
So overall I would say PS3 Dualshock 3 is the best.

PS3 :2 Xbox360 :3

AC Power Cable/Brick??

Xbox360's power brick
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PS3's power cable

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Xbox360's power brick is obvious that it is heavy and big.
PS3's power cable is lighter and won't cause any overheat problems.

ps3
:3 xbox360:3 A DRAW! shocking.gif


I have exams next month.Wish me luck!
TO BE CONTINUED FOR FURTHER RESULTS!


This post has been edited by ExTgAmer: Apr 21 2008, 10:07 PM
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post Apr 18 2008, 05:52 PM

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For now PS3 owners will say PS3 is better and 360 owners will say 360 is better and those who got both will say both are good. But looking at that video, and various other videos, and reading recent articles on the internet I think PS3 will be the favourite console in the end.
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post Apr 18 2008, 06:15 PM

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Hmm at 1st the xbox360 rules...juz bcos it got more titles than the ps3.
Sony suffered major losses due to the R&D of Cell cpu and sell under cost of each ps3.Sony had agree to Sold their Cell cpu architecture to Toshiba.
More at wikipedia.org.(search ps3)
But experts predicted ps3 will win over this year around due to many "big" titles coming up soon to ps3.
Now sony also annouced to use smaller die shrink for their ps3 Cell CPU.In other words it means PS3 slim will be possible this year!
I just hope it will down size and down price at the same time.
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post Apr 18 2008, 06:31 PM

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The downsized ps3 will be more pricey for sure though.
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post Apr 18 2008, 07:08 PM

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ya i think ps3 is better

but for now..u better buy xbox360 first..because the games is a lot cheaper than the ps3 game

extgamer..

what fan do u use??for your xbox360..sorry off topic..im so curious
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post Apr 18 2008, 07:28 PM

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They were no consoles war before xbox come out.
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post Apr 19 2008, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(5zal06 @ Apr 18 2008, 07:08 PM)
ya i think ps3 is better

but for now..u better buy xbox360 first..because the games is a lot cheaper than the ps3 game

extgamer..

what fan do u use??for your xbox360..sorry off topic..im so curious
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I use table fan as an external.
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post Apr 19 2008, 01:08 AM

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Gflops bs flops..
gibberish which the average consumer wont understand and wont care for.
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post Apr 19 2008, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Apr 19 2008, 01:08 AM)
Gflops bs flops..
gibberish which the average consumer wont understand and wont care for.
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i go for PS3 just for MGS4...but what if MGS4 is no longer intresting maybe i'll go with Killzone 2..or Little Big Planet..oh heck, maybe i'll go for FF 13 & FF vs 13..and the list go on

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Hahaha Some of the games in the 360 exclusive games list is not even exclusive.

Seriously, the whole comparison is seriously outdated. PS3 versions of multiplatform games were bad because the tools wasnt matured yet. Now, we're already in the 2nd gen of PS3 games and there are already PS3 games that looks better than 360's current best graphics.

To us Asians, the factors of buying a console comes down to our wallet. Do you want to play pirated games or not? If not, then I think PS3 is a more viable and reasonable system to invest in. You get free online multiplayer, the most powerful gaming console which also doubles as a Blu-ray player, wireless controller with built-in battery and it's fairly affordable now. Last I checked 40GB PS3 goes for RM1300 nowadays.

But it's always true when they say you're losing out a lot if you stick to just one console.

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ok le me get this straight...the main difference between ps3 and 360 in malaysia..is only original Bluray disc vs ehem DVD....if u buy ps3 u get a lot of great games even in the present and the future..same for 360...and Wii....but with 360 and Wii in hand you can get a lot of game for only rm1* per game...what a miracles way of life!!...so let make decision shall we..i'm not making this jokes story or whatever....but this is a fact that a man should face...forget to mention something very important...if you get a 360...please spend some money...in case for a future references (3ROD)...."ok adios kid"...( i hate that lines of words!!)
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QUOTE(Gahleon @ Apr 18 2008, 07:28 PM)
They were no consoles war before xbox come out.
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 19 2008, 09:03 AM)
Atari will disagree what u said.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Apr 19 2008, 09:19 AM)
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TO BE CONTINUED.


Added on April 19, 2008, 10:53 am
QUOTE(lamusiqa @ Apr 19 2008, 02:48 AM)
Hahaha Some of the games in the 360 exclusive games list is not even exclusive.

Seriously, the whole comparison is seriously outdated. PS3 versions of multiplatform games were bad because the tools wasnt matured yet. Now, we're already in the 2nd gen of PS3 games and there are already PS3 games that looks better than 360's current best graphics.

To us Asians, the factors of buying a console comes down to our wallet. Do you want to play pirated games or not? If not, then I think PS3 is a more viable and reasonable system to invest in. You get free online multiplayer, the most powerful gaming console which also doubles as a Blu-ray player, wireless controller with built-in battery and it's fairly affordable now. Last I checked 40GB PS3 goes for RM1300 nowadays.

But it's always true when they say you're losing out a lot if you stick to just one console.
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Yes these are exclusives.
Just telling..okay..I am not sticking to one console.
In looks I would say PS3.
Wait for further results ya biggrin.gif

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post Apr 19 2008, 11:03 AM

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why not compare console mana cepat jahanam
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QUOTE(Azhar85 @ Apr 19 2008, 03:49 AM)
ok le me get this straight...the main difference between ps3 and 360 in malaysia..is only original Bluray disc vs ehem DVD....if u buy ps3 u get a lot of great games even in the present and the future..same for 360...and Wii....but with 360 and Wii in hand you can get a lot of game for only rm1* per game...what a miracles way of life!!...so let make decision shall we..i'm not making this jokes story or whatever....but this is a fact that a man should face...forget to mention something very important...if you get a 360...please spend some money...in case for a future references (3ROD)...."ok adios kid"...( i hate that lines of words!!)
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Yeah, we're just lucky in that respect. Having pirated games really eases the pain of having multiple consoles.

In the end, if anybody wants to get only 1 gaming console, they just need to consider these few things:

1. If you wanna buy cheap pirated games, Xbox 360 and Wii is your best bet. However, online functionality might be disabled/banned and risk of hardware malfunctions are high(this applies to Xbox 360 only).

2. If you wanna buy original games only, then PS3 it is. No online fees, no extra accessories needed other than better AV cables and no region lock in PS3 games.

After all is said and done, the final determining factor is your taste in games. Exclusive titles does drive sales.
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QUOTE(azmirhere @ Apr 19 2008, 11:03 AM)
why not compare console mana cepat jahanam
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post Apr 19 2008, 12:32 PM

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currently

ps3:1 xbox360:3

I will post out 3ROD and which will give a penalty score.

So no worries man.

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hmm,metal gear solid 4 ,Gt5 ,initial d extreme stage(my favourite) and some awesome and famous game like kingdom heart 3,final fantasy is only coming out on ps3..so ps3 is the best rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 19 2008, 09:03 AM)
Atari will disagree what u said.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Apr 19 2008, 09:19 AM)
So will SEGA..  blush.gif
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hehe bring up the post =D
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to answer the poll, PS3 because of the exclusives.



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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 19 2008, 09:52 AM)
So u think Atari release console first or Sega or Nintendo?
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what a flawed poll. So PS3 has no exclusive games ? HA HA HA
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QUOTE(slickz @ Apr 19 2008, 05:02 PM)
what a flawed poll. So PS3 has no exclusive games ? HA HA HA
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Hmm... fanboy war... Love this hate that. About the exclusive games for the 360? Make me wonder what are they? Im looking forward for Gears 2 but other than that... is kinda blurry

for ps3 however, there is MGS4, GT5, and Killzone coming out soon. Other than that both console have similar releases.

Love the games... not the consoles...
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i own both console.. for me.. this 2 giant machine.. really great.. but it depend on your wallet too .. laugh.gif... anyway... ... guess wat my 360 rosak 1st.. damn.. my PS3 still ok till now.. doh.gif.... so for me SONY machine is still the best.. thumbup.gif (coz free online, got exclusive title RPG game but suk on online.. shakehead.gif ....)

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PS3 build quality is better and has bluray drive.
Xbox360 only DVD9, and RROD problem.

But in term of games...it is pretty equal. Both X360 and PS3 got their own exclusive games. But if i have to choose, i will choose PS3 because of FF13, MGS4.
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QUOTE(ExTgAmer @ Apr 19 2008, 05:19 PM)
if that's what you think.
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if it's a fact means he what he say is true?
no exclusive games?
Lol..I didn't even say there is no exclusive games.
What I meant at the poll is.
xbox360 has more exclusive games.
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QUOTE(ExTgAmer @ Apr 19 2008, 08:15 PM)
if it's a fact means he what he say is true?
no exclusive games?
Lol..I didn't even say there is no exclusive games.
What I meant at the poll is.
xbox360 has more exclusive games.
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you should've thought it over properly before posting unnecessarily doh.gif
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More exclusive games.. depend on ur type of the game... diff people dif taste la.... smile.gif
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Definitely the PS3.
But for now, the 360 seems much more attractive because of its ability to play pirated games plus all its best games are already out.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Apr 19 2008, 09:18 PM)
your poll shows otherwise wink.gif
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ps3!! mgs4 cant wait~
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QUOTE(ExTgAmer @ Apr 19 2008, 10:34 PM)
Yes.I know I am sorry. smile.gif
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sooner or later some stupid "event" will take place,and a war erupts doh.gif

no point having good intentions here..fanboys will still take center stage rclxub.gif
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joke2

actually for now i like ps3 coz safer..

3roD 2 times already cant tahan
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PS3 for me. I can play some of xbox 360 games on PC anyway. Most of 360's games are not that tempting to me. Waiting for MGS4 this June and FF 13 series. Once i put in the disc into the PS3 drive, i wont be thinking about 7 cores vs 3 cores, RSX vs Xenon, Ps3 design vs 360 design, no of PS3 games vs no of 360 games and Gflops vs Gflops. If the graphical comparison between 360 and PS3 is like 360 vs Handheld Brick Games. Then i'll reconsider. Once i pop in Devil May Cry 4 into the drive, its all about focus on my TV and bash some demons.

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from a wii owner, i would go for ps3. i dont care about size or graphics but games are important. i'm not really interested in 360's exclusives like halo or gears of war but i'm more interested in ps3's side like gt5(though forza on 360 looks tempting),ff13,mgs4,kingdom hearts,etc...

it all boils down to the the gamer and his preference on games.
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really, I failed to comprehend the purpose of this thread.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Apr 20 2008, 02:35 AM)
dude,seriously...just close this thread la..
sooner or later some stupid "event" will take place,and a war erupts doh.gif

no point having good intentions here..fanboys will still take center stage rclxub.gif
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Why do I need to close this thread.
Nah..is okay biggrin.gif
Thats the purpose of this thread man.
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post Apr 20 2008, 11:45 AM

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LOL, dun close it, i like this thread.....For my personal,for PS3, i only interest it when Sony decide release shadow of the colossus 2 on PS3, i m already bore with the game like MGS and FF, i only finish MGS and FF7 at my PS, all series of MGS and FF at PS2, i never finish it, all play at early stage, then i stop it, those game i play make me feel bore.... no mood to continue it. At PS2, i only found God of War n shadow of the colossus give me mood to finish the game, i want another game like shadow of the colossus. About god of War??? I think i will stop play it, bcoz in the market got too many this kind of game came out already, example like Conan, but i bought PS2 just bcoz of Winning Eleven. tongue.gif
For XBox360, Gear of war really give me the first step to grab it, second Dead Rising, Dead or Alive Xtreme 2(Sometime my eyes need fresh) and Ninja Gaiden which i waiting for so long. Ya, someone like to said some good game like GOW will release on pc, but is up to u if u want to wait for a year or more than that to play this game. 3rod? This one must depend how deep u really like the game of xbox360, anyway my xbox360 still can work perfectly after nearly 2 years, also got hit by 2rod many time ad, but it still work, maybe my luck r better. So i must said this 2 console have nothing to compare when u got 1 of them, bcoz is u decide to use ur money pay for it, not money decide u buy it, so dun jealous on other console owner. Just my personal 2cent.... whistling.gif
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depends on ur taste lar..both oso have their own exclusive game. if u have the money,buy both. When u enter to the game..is all bout the gaming experience, not looking so deeply into the technology. But my vote will goes for PS3 coz due to the RROD problem for Xbox360. Both have their advantage. Purpose of creating this thread is to enjoy both fans argueing for their favourite consoles? sweat.gif
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PS3

Pros:
Better console
HDD standard

Cons:
Sucky controller (IMO)

360:

Pros:
Best controller

Cons:
Die-box
HDD not standard

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QUOTE(G-Shonen @ Apr 20 2008, 12:30 PM)
PS3

Pros:
Better console
HDD standard

Cons:
Sucky controller (IMO)

360:

Pros:
Best controller

Cons:
Die-box
HDD not standard
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errmmm I like ps3 controllers..is easy user friendly =D
thats why i give a score to ps3 for controllers.


Added on April 20, 2008, 1:55 pm
QUOTE(nonamekid @ Apr 20 2008, 12:26 PM)
depends on ur taste lar..both oso have their own exclusive game. if u have the money,buy both. When u enter to the game..is all bout the gaming experience, not looking so deeply into the technology. But my vote will goes for PS3 coz due to the RROD problem for Xbox360. Both have their advantage. Purpose of creating this thread is to enjoy both fans argueing for their favourite consoles?  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 20 2008, 11:45 AM)
LOL, dun close it, i like this thread.....For my personal,for PS3, i only interest it when Sony decide release shadow of the colossus 2 on PS3, i m already bore with the game like MGS and FF, i only finish MGS and FF7 at my PS, all series of MGS and FF at PS2, i never finish it, all play at early stage, then i stop it, those game i play make me feel bore.... no mood to continue it. At PS2, i only found God of War n shadow of the colossus give me mood to finish the game, i want another game like shadow of the colossus. About god of War??? I think i will stop play it, bcoz in the market got too many this kind of game came out already, example like Conan, but i bought PS2 just bcoz of Winning Eleven.  tongue.gif
For XBox360, Gear of war really give me the first step to grab it, second Dead Rising, Dead or Alive Xtreme 2(Sometime my eyes need fresh) and Ninja Gaiden which i waiting for so long. Ya, someone like to said some good game like GOW will release on pc, but is up to u if u want to wait for a year or more than that to play this game. 3rod? This one must depend how deep u really like the game of xbox360, anyway my xbox360 still can work perfectly after nearly 2 years, also got hit by 2rod many time ad, but it still work, maybe my luck r better. So i must said this 2 console have nothing to compare when u got 1 of them, bcoz is u decide to use ur money pay for it, not money decide u buy it, so dun jealous on other console owner. Just my personal 2cent....  whistling.gif
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Althought this kinda flamewar give benefits for those who planning to choose the right console,

Until now I still could not decide to choose among 2, the problem is everywhere like ps3 with lense issue, xbox with 3ROD. This keeping me delay & confuse that possibly end with dekstop gaming, (and suddenly become offtopic biggrin.gif )

till then keep fighting (lol) , maybe I reconsidering going to console gaming,
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QUOTE(enCORe @ Apr 20 2008, 02:03 PM)
Althought this kinda flamewar give benefits for those who planning to choose the right console,

Until now I still could not decide to choose among 2, the problem is everywhere like ps3 with lense issue, xbox with 3ROD. This keeping me delay & confuse that possibly end with dekstop gaming, (and suddenly become offtopic biggrin.gif )

till then keep fighting (lol) , maybe I reconsidering going to console gaming,
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ps3 lens problems doesn't occur frequently bro.
is just unlucky that you get the console.
once fix it won't be a problem anymore.
unlike the xbox360 3rod.

in one of the game shops

19 xbox360 consoles are under repairment due to 3rod problem
1 ps3 are under repairment due to lens prob

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QUOTE(ExTgAmer @ Apr 20 2008, 01:54 PM)
errmmm I like ps3 controllers..is easy user friendly =D
thats why i give a score to ps3 for controllers.

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I find xbox controllers are awesome for FPS. I even use my xbox controller to play Crysis / Bioshock on PC. I've got kinda used to it . I have "YET" to try a ps3. But i will be getting one by the end of this month. I wanna watch blu ray ..

Btw does any1 here know how big a PS3 adapter is comparing to the monstrous XBOX power brick

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QUOTE(MSA @ Apr 20 2008, 04:28 PM)
I find xbox controllers are awesome for FPS. I even use my xbox controller to play Crysis / Bioshock on PC. I've got kinda used to it . I have "YET" to try a ps3. But i will be getting one by the end of this month. I wanna watch blu ray ..

Btw does any1 here know how big a PS3 adapter is comparing to the monstrous XBOX power brick
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I already edited my thread.
You can check out the adapter.
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To me 360 controller is the best this gen. It comfortable, triggers feel just right, analog placement didn't hurt my thumb plus the inclusion of the "R1 (RB)" and "L1(LB)" button.

Now I haven't touched a sixaxis or dual shock 3 but it looks kinda the same as last gen (with triggers). I had some bad times with the DS 2 (slipped thumbs, awkward analog placement), so I'm basing my thoughts on this.

It's not just FPS, most of next gen games utilizes the use of two analog sticks (one for movement, the other for camera for example), so IMO 360 controller is the best for this.

PS controllers have great d-pads but those are for last gen 2D fighter games, those games are near extinct. In short, if I ever get a PS3, it'd be cool to use 360 controller while playing its games.
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QUOTE(G-Shonen @ Apr 20 2008, 08:13 PM)
To me 360 controller is the best this gen. It comfortable, triggers feel just right, analog placement didn't hurt my thumb plus the inclusion of the "R1 (RB)" and "L1(LB)" button.

Now I haven't touched a sixaxis or dual shock 3 but it looks kinda the same as last gen (with triggers). I had some bad times with the DS 2 (slipped thumbs, awkward analog placement), so I'm basing my thoughts on this.

It's not just FPS, most of next gen games utilizes the use of two analog sticks (one for movement, the other for camera for example), so IMO 360 controller is the best for this.

PS controllers have great d-pads but those are for last gen 2D fighter games, those games are near extinct. In short, if I ever get a PS3, it'd be cool to use 360 controller while playing its games.
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there's no six axis in production
now is dualshock 3.
but the xbox360 controller is heavy ...and there's a battery back on the back.
I hate the buttons the colours are so chidlish!

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But xbox360 controller really not suitable for Winning Eleven or PES, PS Dual Shock still the best for the PES/WE.
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 20 2008, 09:57 PM)
But xbox360 controller really not suitable for Winning Eleven or PES, PS Dual Shock still the best for the PES/WE.
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I have to agree on that .. even xbox controller aren't good for GH3 ... Certain game like DMC or sport i think it might be good with DS3 but with FPS or racing games i think XBOX 360 is better ..

Color of buttons don't really disturb me neither the Triangle X, O or the square. It's just about getting used to it. I rather have color or shape on my controller comparing to Wii. I've sometimes get lost between button one and button 2 .hahahahha , we all have different preference..
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Well, I don't look at the controller much when I'm playing tongue.gif! You could be right about GH3 and PES because I didn't play those kinda games. I'm noticing a trend this gen where both analog sticks are being used in the videogame genre that I like so 360 controller is my choice.
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QUOTE(ExTgAmer @ Apr 18 2008, 05:25 PM)
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I never play Xbox b4, but why do the xbox controllers not using rechargeable? hell even my mosquito eletric killer can be rechargeable and made from china

I do know about others but remote play from my ps3 is a interesting factor.....
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Currently I have PS3, I'll get XBOX360 after they fix the 3ROD problem. I'm not in a hurry anyway. PC and PS3 game already not enough time to complete it.

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QUOTE(kyle9 @ Apr 21 2008, 09:59 AM)
I never play Xbox b4, but why do the xbox controllers not using rechargeable? hell even my mosquito eletric killer can be rechargeable and made from china

I do know about others but remote play from my ps3 is a interesting factor.....
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they do have rechargeable batteries for the wireless controller....even u can charge em while u playing games ( play and charge kit ) # Xbox360

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QUOTE(G-Shonen @ Apr 20 2008, 08:13 PM)
To me 360 controller is the best this gen. It comfortable, triggers feel just right, analog placement didn't hurt my thumb plus the inclusion of the "R1 (RB)" and "L1(LB)" button.

Now I haven't touched a sixaxis or dual shock 3 but it looks kinda the same as last gen (with triggers). I had some bad times with the DS 2 (slipped thumbs, awkward analog placement), so I'm basing my thoughts on this.

It's not just FPS, most of next gen games utilizes the use of two analog sticks (one for movement, the other for camera for example), so IMO 360 controller is the best for this.

PS controllers have great d-pads but those are for last gen 2D fighter games, those games are near extinct. In short, if I ever get a PS3, it'd be cool to use 360 controller while playing its games.
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I use dpad to play winning eleven. If is like xbox controller, i wonder how i will perform rclxub.gif
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u will get used to it...then u will perform well
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I have both 360 and PS3,
but bcoz of the 3Rod case,
i'm actually quite disappointed with 360.
Now my 360 is still in Singapore,
waiting for Microsuck$ to change a new one for me.
Now i'm in fully potential with PS3.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 21 2008, 09:56 AM)
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I don't see why is funny hmm.gif
even though I typed wrong..
is actually a power cable.
so what?
I am just comparing lol..not getting the name right...that's so lame man


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:19 pm
QUOTE(stevechan360 @ Apr 21 2008, 03:27 PM)
I have both 360 and PS3,
but bcoz of the 3Rod case,
i'm actually quite disappointed with 360.
Now my 360 is still in Singapore,
waiting for Microsuck$ to change a new one for me.
Now i'm in fully potential with PS3.
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you need a falcon 1..
and take care of it.
don't play too long...even though you want to..is not good for your eyes too.
and don't put console near the walls.
put a fan there..
it helps also.
trust me.


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:21 pm
QUOTE(G-Shonen @ Apr 20 2008, 11:05 PM)
Well, I don't look at the controller much when I'm playing tongue.gif! You could be right about GH3 and PES because I didn't play those kinda games. I'm noticing a trend this gen where both analog sticks are being used in the videogame genre that I like so 360 controller is my choice.
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YEA!!


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:24 pm
QUOTE(clemong_888 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:56 AM)
from a wii owner, i would go for ps3. i dont care about size or graphics but games are important. i'm not really interested in 360's exclusives like halo or gears of war but i'm more interested in ps3's side like gt5(though forza on 360 looks tempting),ff13,mgs4,kingdom hearts,etc...

it all boils down to the the gamer and his preference on games.
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you said games are important..so is also matters in graphic performances.
why I choose xbox360 games?
well,most of xbox360 games has action games which you can play OVER and OVER again in XBOXLIVE
it wouldn't be boring and a neverending game just like DOTA!


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:29 pmand also I am wondering should I warn abt those ps3 and xbox360 owners are only allowed to vote in that poll?
Because I just find ppl voting without questioning and unknowing knowledge about xbox360 and the ps3.
Ppl who own it have the experiences and is true. =D

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QUOTE(ExTgAmer @ Apr 21 2008, 06:13 PM)


Added on April 21, 2008, 6:29 pmand also I am wondering should I warn abt those ps3 and xbox360 owners are only allowed to vote in that poll?
Because I just find ppl voting without questioning and unknowing knowledge about xbox360 and the ps3.
Ppl who own it have the experiences and is true. =D
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QUOTE(ExTgAmer @ Apr 21 2008, 06:13 PM)
I don't see why is funny hmm.gif
even though I typed wrong..
is actually a power cable.
so what?
I am just comparing lol..not getting the name right...that's so lame man


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Bcoz ur mis typed have displease his side, u get what i mean? brows.gif

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lol.
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lots of pengundi hantu here...
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Who is pengundi hantu angkat TANGAN.... tongue.gif
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Btw..sorry xbox360 and ps3 fans.
I won't be here with you guys for quite some time till end of May.
Got exam man. sad.gif
Sorry bros unsure.gif

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For me..all the three consoles are good in their respective purposes..

1)Wii-if you like to play games with ur friends a lot..
2)Xbox 360-if you like to play shooting games a lot...(games a lot cheaper if you know how to find it...you know what i am talking about...this also appy to Wii..huhuhu..)(Caution : Prepared for 3ROD)
3)PS3-if you like to play most japanese games like RPG, action, and less shooting...but must spend a lot of money to buy the games...

but if you ask me...i choose PS3 for my favourite consoles..although i don't have one of them yet...

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QUOTE(ExTgAmer @ Apr 21 2008, 06:13 PM)
I don't see why is funny hmm.gif
even though I typed wrong..
is actually a power cable.
so what?
I am just comparing lol..not getting the name right...that's so lame man

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that means my side knows a thing or two about the technical aspect , oh sorry, the very basic technical aspect of a console, oh sorry, an electrical appliance that makes us not tolerating ready known defective product ..if you cant even grasp a simple and general info, and you call me lame..and..aww i leave it for you to imagine the rest wink.gif
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 22 2008, 04:43 AM)
that means my side knows a thing or two about the technical aspect , oh sorry, the very basic technical aspect of a console, oh sorry, an electrical appliance that makes us not tolerating ready known defective product ..if you cant even grasp a simple and general info, and you call me lame..and..aww i leave it for you to imagine the rest wink.gif
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even if he did a word error you don't have to talk like that.
yes you're lame.

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i love the direction this thread is heading.. laugh.gif biggrin.gif
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owhhh
how come i didnt noticed this thread

i prefer

sony alpha a200 more than other
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To anybody who would want to play online multiplayer games, PS3 is the way to go. Free online, and the games are region free so you could get almost all games a few days after it's official release date.

My vote's on PS3. Even though I love 360's library. Spending cash just to play online on top of original games is just too much for a Malaysian gamer like me.

Besides, with the PS3, you dont need to buy any controller peripheral such as the Play&Charge kit. Although HDMI is like a MUST-BUY.
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QUOTE(lamusiqa @ Apr 24 2008, 02:20 AM)
To anybody who would want to play online multiplayer games, PS3 is the way to go. Free online, and the games are region free so you could get almost all games a few days after it's official release date.

My vote's on PS3. Even though I love 360's library. Spending cash just to play online on top of original games is just too much for a Malaysian gamer like me.

Besides, with the PS3, you dont need to buy any controller peripheral such as the Play&Charge kit. Although HDMI is like a MUST-BUY.
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Bro... u vote for ps3, u said PS3 is the best way to go for online multi player games, but spending cash just to play online on top of original games is just too much for malaysian gamer like u??? hmm.gif , if u dun wan but play&charge kit, get the wired one lah, u think that peripheral are so expensive ah. TO play a game, u have nothing to save up, what u spend for is depend this is worth or not.
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 24 2008, 02:36 AM)
Bro...  u vote for ps3, u said PS3 is the best way to go for online multi player games, but spending cash just to play online on top of original games is just too much for malaysian gamer like u???  hmm.gif , if  u dun wan but play&charge kit, get the wired one lah, u think that peripheral are  so expensive ah. TO play a game, u have nothing to save up, what u spend for is depend this is worth or not.
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First of all, Ive been playing PC online gaming for a long time and if I could play online for free on PC and PS3, I dont see why I should pay a premium just to play on Xbox Live. I buy original games to play online and that's already a step away from piracy but for me to buy ori games AND pay for online is just too much lah. That's why I stick with PS3 for online console gaming.

And about the play&charge thing, when I bought the 360, I bought the premium set which included the Wireless controller. So I had to buy the Play&Charge kit. If I were to buy a wired controller just because I dont want to spend money on Play&charge kit, that would be a dumb move wouldnt it? I'd be losing the wireless gaming feature and I'd lose more money than I would with a Play&Charge kit because a wired controller is more expensive! And yes, 2 years ago, the peripheral seemed expensive when compared to PS3's built-in battery in the SIXAXIS.

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i have a question here..

i didnt play with xbox 360 before.
i have seem many ppl complain about xbox 360..
i would like to know abt the reason?bcos of the mesin doesnt support playing private game?
why cant it last long?
wouldnt microsoft chip would be better ever?


i still wondering which one should i buy xbox360 or ps 3 ?

ps 3 games,most of the game i like but i run by blueray disc..so it quite costly..

xbox360:games are cheap,can enjoy imitation games..are the same time u can play watever type u like it..
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QUOTE(Dante18 @ Apr 19 2008, 07:02 PM)
PS3 build quality is better and has bluray drive.
Xbox360 only DVD9, and RROD problem.

But in term of games...it is pretty equal. Both X360 and PS3 got their own exclusive games. But if i have to choose, i will choose PS3 because of FF13, MGS4.
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right now, if I am not mistaken, xbox360 does has more exclusive games. some of the exclusive games are great.
although the ps3 has less exclusive games, their library of games is growing. and for my personal taste/opinion, the ps3 has legendary games like final fantasy, metal gear solid, resident evil, silent hill and so on...

p.s: halo is legendary, I think.

QUOTE(ExTgAmer @ Apr 19 2008, 08:15 PM)
if it's a fact means he what he say is true?
no exclusive games?
Lol..I didn't even say there is no exclusive games.
What I meant at the poll is.
xbox360 has more exclusive games.
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man,,, why didnt u say so in the first place...

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Yes.I know I am sorry. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kyle9 @ Apr 21 2008, 09:59 AM)
I never play Xbox b4, but why do the xbox controllers not using rechargeable? hell even my mosquito eletric killer can be rechargeable and made from china

I do know about others but remote play from my ps3 is a interesting factor.....
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hahahahaa..... nice one..

I have one more question for u. I dont really understand what u said about the graphic of ps3 and xbox360. according to the comparison below, shouldnt the ps3 has more praphical power? are there other technical stuff involved that make the xbox360 more powerful graphically?

PS2 CPU - 6.0 GFLOPS
Xbox CPU - 2.932 GFLOPS

PS3 Cell - 204.8 GFLOPS
Xbox CPU - 115.2 GFLOPS

btw, I owned a ps and ps2. ps3 not yet. but I do hope I am allowed to voice my opinion here. I also owned a pc. a rather outdated one compared to today core2duo.
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QUOTE(lamusiqa @ Apr 24 2008, 08:53 AM)
First of all, Ive been playing PC online gaming for a long time and if I could play online for free on PC and PS3, I dont see why I should pay a premium just to play on Xbox Live. I buy original games to play online and that's already a step away from piracy but for me to buy ori games AND pay for online is just too much lah. That's why I stick with PS3 for online console gaming.

And about the play&charge thing, when I bought the 360, I bought the premium set which included the Wireless controller. So I had to buy the Play&Charge kit. If I were to buy a wired controller just because I dont want to spend money on Play&charge kit, that would be a dumb move wouldnt it? I'd be losing the wireless gaming feature and I'd lose more money than I would with a Play&Charge kit because a wired controller is more expensive! And yes, 2 years ago, the peripheral seemed expensive when compared to PS3's built-in battery in the SIXAXIS.
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If u willing pay for original game, i think u should not be a problem to pay a 12-Months Gold Membership which cost under USD50 or less. U only need to pay rm14+ per/month for online. Charge &Play kits also need to pay for 1 time, unless its broken u need to buy another one.
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Good day,

I currently now own all 3 consoles at the moment (PS3, XBOX, Wii and 3 units NDSL). PS3 have just joined my family on Monday To be honest I love all 3 consoles nomatter what weakness they have. We can compare all the mumbo jumbo technical stuff which i don't give a damn but what i totally care about is total enjoyment with me and my family. All 3 consoles have their pro's and con's we can go on arguing about it and it can go forever. cool.gif .

I usually keep my ears closed on what console to buy but rather follow my own instinct.
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QUOTE(MSA @ Apr 24 2008, 12:00 PM)
Good day,

I currently now own all 3 consoles at the moment (PS3, XBOX, Wii and 3 units NDSL). PS3 have just joined my family on Monday To be honest I love all 3 consoles nomatter what weakness they have. We can compare all the mumbo jumbo technical stuff which i don't give a damn but what i totally care about is total enjoyment with me and my family. All 3 consoles have their pro's and con's we can go on arguing about it and it can go forever.  cool.gif .

I usually keep my ears closed on what console to buy but rather follow my own instinct.
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Agreed with u, so envy u, i can own 3 console too, but my wife will leave me forever......  laugh.gif
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My children are pretty excited cuz the ps3 controller is small and light comparing to Xbox. He are very happy with it. But in the other hand I'm having trouble adapting it rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 24 2008, 11:05 AM)
If u willing pay for original game, i think u should not be a problem to pay a 12-Months Gold Membership which cost under USD50 or less. U only need to pay rm14+ per/month for online. Charge &Play kits also need to pay for 1 time, unless its broken u need to buy another one.
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laugh.gif that's like saying "you can buy a BMW,dont tell me you cant pay for the servicing?"
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with the current exchange ringgit to USD now it got to RM 12.91 per month. That's the price of one KFC dinner plate. Quite attractive.

Anyway, if the polls are any indication, with the interest in the console with no ability to play backup copies , it would seem that interest in original goods are on the rise. This can mean good things.
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QUOTE(slickz @ Apr 24 2008, 01:23 PM)
with the current exchange ringgit to USD now it got to RM 12.91 per month. That's the price of one KFC dinner plate. Quite attractive.

Anyway, if the polls are any indication, with the interest in the console with no  ability to play backup copies , it would seem that interest in original goods are on the rise. This can mean good things.
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there is a few point you guys forgot about, ever wonder why ps3 comes with large hard disk compare to xbox360? games like Lost Planet for PS3, u need to freaking install the game for 10-15mins about 4gb & this is not the only game u need to do that.

oh btw how many of you guys who owned ps3 can afford or would buy blue-ray movie? that the movie title is not new? how many of you with ps3 here owns a LCD TV 1080p 40 inch above? yes games comes in blue-ray disk, how many games on market can even fill up a DVD9 at the moment? other than those RPG games with lots of movie. so for games that comes in Blue-ray disk im very sure its more than half empty, or with lots of rubbish extra trailers.

sometimes i think features for the console does not play a big part in it. even for xbox360 if it comes with HD-DVD drive how many of you would buy movie in HD?

edit:- thanks to slickz on pointing out =P

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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Apr 24 2008, 03:15 PM)
there is a few point you guys forgot about, ever wonder why ps3 comes with large hard disk compare to xbox360? games like Lost Planet for PS3, u need to freaking install the game for 10-15mins about 4gb & this is not the only game u need to do that.

oh btw how many of you guys who owned ps3 can effort or would buy blue-ray movie? that the movie title is not new? how many of you with ps3 here owns a LCD TV 1080p 40 inch above? yes games comes in blue-ray disk, how many games on market can even fill up a DVD9 at the moment? other than those RPG games with lots of movie. so for games that comes in Blue-ray disk im very sure its more than half empty, or with lots of rubbish extra trailers.

sometimes i think features for the console does not play a big part in it. even for xbox360 if it comes with HD-DVD drive how many of you would buy movie in HD?
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heheh point well made. it's afford though, not effort. Even my family only has a 32 inch HDTV. Mom says pic too big also not nice. laugh.gif Don't get me started on how TV stations here don't even broadcast in HD format yet. Picture quality even in astro looks like we're viewing Youtube videos in 16:9 aspect ratio. I haven't bought a single Blu-ray movie yet. It's the games that matter to me.

So this means it's a good thing all ps3 units come with a hdd eh ? Even microsoft says the future is in DLC when HD DVD lost the format war, BD is supposedly shortlived but yet some of their SKUs don't even have a hdd.
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for me console is for gaming 90%... bd/hd mmm i dont think of those much since i rarely watch movie... but i like the xb funtion where i can isten to my mp3 when gaming.. hehhe nice feature indeed... why only can vote 1 not both... both console have differences so getting both is the best aahahahaha.. i have xb but no hdtv only using monitor for the job and i already satisfy. hahaha... hope if i get ps3 also can hok it with my monitor...
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 24 2008, 03:27 PM)
cant afford it? try
not that i cant afford all above, its just that i have lots of games & no time, i buy every single game for xbox360 even games i dont play. as a working person, i dont even have enough time to play every game i bought , lets not talk about watching movies on console... lets say even i have a ps3 now with me, no point playing games thats already on 360. that makes my 2nd unit console a standby console with exclusive games only. what a waste. talk about Blue-ray movie.. i go cinema every week, watch every bloody movie that interest me. so with added features like watching movies from consoles is useless to me, even songs like mp3, ill rather listen them on my huge play list of songs on PC with 5.1 surround speaker >.> . or with a ipod....

get what i mean? comparison for this 2 console is still based on how the user looks at. things like the power adaptor/power cable. who on earth cares about the weight & size of that? when its placed there i dont even give a damn until the damn thing died.
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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Apr 24 2008, 04:44 PM)
not that i cant afford all above, its just that i have lots of games & no time, i buy every single game for xbox360 even games i dont play. as a working person, i dont even have enough time to play every game i bought , lets not talk about watching movies on console... lets say even i have a ps3 now with me, no point playing games thats already on 360. that makes my 2nd unit console a standby console with exclusive games only. what a waste. talk about Blue-ray movie.. i go cinema every week, watch every bloody movie that interest me. so with added features like watching movies from consoles is useless to me, even songs like mp3, ill rather listen them on my huge play list of songs on PC with 5.1 surround speaker >.> . or with a ipod....
get what i mean? comparison for this 2 console is still based on how the user looks at. things like the power adaptor/power cable. who on earth cares about the weight & size of that? when its placed there i dont even give a damn until the damn thing died.
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reffering to the bolded sentences, I would like to know what are you doing here in Console Couch then laugh.gif

By summarizing the points, I would say that you are an average gamer that
spends time like 2, 3 hours gaming in a week...correct?

And you would be amazed of what can console do these days, MP3s, movie playback,
Internet surfing, shopping, video conferencing..

Before I go on, the games for your 360, truthfully, are they originals?

Because, by this answer, it could either

1. Brings out the skeleton in the closet

2. Surfacing new arguments and perspective in this discussion.


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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Apr 24 2008, 03:15 PM)
there is a few point you guys forgot about, ever wonder why ps3 comes with large hard disk compare to xbox360? games like Lost Planet for PS3, u need to freaking install the game for 10-15mins about 4gb & this is not the only game u need to do that.
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yeah..thanks to lazy developers tongue.gif

QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Apr 24 2008, 03:15 PM)
oh btw how many of you guys who owned ps3 can afford or would buy blue-ray movie? that the movie title is not new? how many of you with ps3 here owns a LCD TV 1080p 40 inch above? yes games comes in blue-ray disk, how many games on market can even fill up a DVD9 at the moment? other than those RPG games with lots of movie. so for games that comes in Blue-ray disk im very sure its more than half empty, or with lots of rubbish extra trailers.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 24 2008, 05:27 PM)
reffering to the bolded sentences, I would like to know what are you doing here in Console Couch then  laugh.gif

By summarizing the points, I would say that you are an average gamer that
spends time like 2, 3 hours gaming in a week...correct?

And you would be amazed of what can console do these days, MP3s, movie playback,
Internet surfing, shopping, video conferencing..

Before I go on, the games for your 360, truthfully, are they originals?

Because, by this answer, it could either

1. Brings out the skeleton in the closet

2. Surfacing new arguments and perspective in this discussion.
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i spend around 2 hours average a day for gaming if i have time

i know consoles can do alot now, but compare the movie resolution on a xbox360/ps3 with hi-fi/PC with WinDVD & nvidia purevideo codec, i can tell its a big different. even both runs on HDMI. yes console does have alot of features, but for most ppl its just added feature. example with an handphone, every 1 goes for new model new feature, how many ppl here with a 3g phone is using 3g? how many 3g line owner use video call?

not all games are original, that im honest with it, but i do buy original games to support them if the game is nice after playing the (ahem) copies. forza2, pgr3 & a few more others. all still sealed not open yet. infact this is my 3rd unit of xbox360, talk about 3rod..
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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Apr 24 2008, 08:43 PM)
all still sealed not open yet. infact this is my 3rd unit of xbox360, talk about 3rod..
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3* 1.2k (take today's price la)
3.6K

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can buy dunno how many games already should you have bought a PS3 to begin with laugh.gif
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well ps3 for me only 2 games that interest me, metal gear solid series and FF series. there is chances that metal gear would be coming over to 360, & Square has started creating games for 360, not FF series. Mistwalker for 360 is also good. Lost Odyssey, Enchanted arms, blue dragon, eternal sonata few more that i cant recalled of. last revenant would be next i guess..


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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Apr 24 2008, 09:03 PM)
OMG icon_question.gif
3* 1.2k (take today's price la)
3.6K

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can buy dunno how many games already should you have bought a PS3 to begin with laugh.gif
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im paying it for my entertainment only =P , with that price i cant even get a new set of sports rim 17" with tyres & adjustable suspensions for my car. well we earn to spend thats about it

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wah, this is most loyal uncle ho fan - until buy defective 360 3 times just to support uncle ho.

uncle ho ftw! defective hardware ftw! should go and buy more, i think most gameshops have tens of defective 360s waiting to be repaired and for you to buy laugh.gif
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QUOTE(acougan @ Apr 24 2008, 11:01 PM)
wah, this is most loyal uncle ho fan - until buy defective 360 3 times just to support uncle ho.

uncle ho ftw! defective hardware ftw! should go and buy more, i think most gameshops have tens of defective 360s waiting to be repaired and for you to buy  laugh.gif
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What he did is mean that rather buy a defective 360 also dun wan buy a lonely ps3??? laugh.gif laugh.gif
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duh, please read the previous post b4 posting .... what i mean was i have bought in 3 xbox360 in total due to first 2 was hit by 3rod....
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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Apr 25 2008, 12:00 AM)
duh, please read the previous post b4 posting .... what i mean was i have bought in 3 xbox360 in total due to first 2 was hit by 3rod....
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wow...u still buy x360 meh. Buy Ps3 la. My x360 also got RROD once also, but repaired ade.(cost me RM250). If RROD again i am not going to repair it again jor. Btw, i also own a pS3 and wii. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Apr 24 2008, 09:03 PM)
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3* 1.2k (take today's price la)
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can buy dunno how many games already should you have bought a PS3 to begin with laugh.gif
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LUUULZZZ with that amount u can buy the most expensive PS3 SKU and have leftover cash for a lot of games. Plus u that first console u bought will STILL be around in working condition. laugh.gif
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Lucky me I've only had 1 3ROD and I got it fixed. Still works till this day. Yay.

Feel bad for those who's on their 3rd and 4th 3ROD though.
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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Apr 24 2008, 08:43 PM)
i spend around 2 hours average a day for gaming if i have time

i know consoles can do alot now, but compare the movie resolution on a xbox360/ps3 with hi-fi/PC with WinDVD & nvidia purevideo codec, i can tell its a big different. even both runs on HDMI. yes console does have alot of features, but for most ppl its just added feature. example with an handphone, every 1 goes for new model new feature, how many ppl here with a 3g phone is using 3g? how many 3g line owner use video call?

not all games are original, that im honest with it, but i do buy original games to support them if the game is nice after playing the (ahem) copies. forza2, pgr3 & a few more others. all still sealed not open yet. infact this is my 3rd unit of xbox360, talk about 3rod..
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appreciate your honesty man. My hats off to you. nod.gif

Regarding the added feature of each console (Wii??) I would have to say this falls in the grey area. You see, some people bought the machine solely for gaming purposes, while other also awe their multimedia capabilities. Manufacturers add that feature to compete, and backed by each business plan and company forecast, I would say competition between them is great. Lowers the price while adds the value of each product. For myself, my PS3 is our entertainment center. I bought the 40gig version (people b**** about its lack of MSPD slots and fewer USB ports) Why?

1. The price was cheaper.

2. I am not a fan of those portable media storage. Unless I am a hardcore photographer, or have 10, 20 MSPDs lying arount the joint, the slot feature is useless to me. The thing is, PS3 can always accept expanded USB slots and USB card readers, no biggie there. Take that extra cost and got myself a 160 sata hdd, i am set.

My PS3, is 70 % gaming and 30 % multimedia. Because of the price of the games these days, I force myself to finish all of the games I have, while enjoying the multimedia capabilities of the thing. Blu ray? One. Yup one. I have my movies, all snugly stored in my hdd, and my music all intact. Your analogy using the phone is superb. 3g? My handphone can only make calls, receive calls and sms. Other than that I dont care biggrin.gif

Personally, I think the main driver for me gaming is because of the price of the games these days. Original games are expensive, and not finishing them for me is a waste. Better dont buy in the first place. Sad to read about your 3rods tho, you would be suprised how long the queue to claim the warranty here in Singapore.

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 25 2008, 08:05 AM)
Original games are expensive, and not finishing them for me is a waste. Better dont buy in the first place.
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im gonna go out on a limb here, and guess you arent gonna get the Iron Man game.. tongue.gif
it looks and plays so badly,i dont think you would wanna finish even the first level,let alone the whole game laugh.gif



(according to 360 owners who played the demo)
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i played the demo this morning, I thought my demo was corrupted. Lets stop there, I think you got the idea biggrin.gif

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For the PS3 we have to choose and research about the game we are attempting to buy to see whether we will like it or not.
For the 360, we can just pick up a game and TRY it to see whether it's good or not.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 24 2008, 05:27 PM)
reffering to the bolded sentences, I would like to know what are you doing here in Console Couch then  laugh.gif

By summarizing the points, I would say that you are an average gamer that
spends time like 2, 3 hours gaming in a week...correct?

And you would be amazed of what can console do these days, MP3s, movie playback,
Internet surfing, shopping, video conferencing..

Before I go on, the games for your 360, truthfully, are they originals?

Because, by this answer, it could either

1. Brings out the skeleton in the closet

2. Surfacing new arguments and perspective in this discussion.
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hell ya...... in console couch, every single little detail is observed a given a thought. although probably not many people care about the power adapter for their console once it is put in place, still it is a minus point for 360.

to each of its own? hey bro sniper, did you mean "to each according to his needs". dont get angry at me la... just trying to understand u ......


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QUOTE(hope2see @ Apr 25 2008, 11:07 AM)
hell ya...... in console couch, every single little detail is observed a given a thought. although probably not many people care about the power adapter for their console once it is put in place, still it is a minus point for 360.

Really bro, I tried to browse the back pages, did I commented anything about the Power adaptor for 360? unsure.gif

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to each of its own? hey bro sniper, did you mean "to each according to his needs". dont get angry at me la... just trying to understand u ......
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Apr 25 2008, 08:54 AM)
im gonna go out on a limb here, and guess you arent gonna get the Iron Man game.. tongue.gif
it looks and plays so badly,i dont think you would wanna finish even the first level,let alone the whole game laugh.gif
(according to 360 owners who played the demo)
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how bad is the game? didnt have chance to try it yet.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 25 2008, 09:10 AM)
i played the demo this morning, I thought my demo was corrupted. Lets stop there, I think you got the idea biggrin.gif
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that bad,bro...that bad... laugh.gif

i hope the same wont be said of the bourne conspiracy game...that had BETTER be good icon_question.gif

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i would say xbox 360 for now ,bcoz 360 have a good potential in social gaming( you wont get bored if you got friends to play with).Ps3 old gaming concept is still on the run (very easy to get bored and no excitement when playing it--->solo gamers only).I used to play ps2 and stop playing ps2 games bcoz i get bored, imagine u facing alone with a tv screen where nobody talks to u, it is very sien 1 u know.I have those experience in my life.
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laugh.gif

you do know that PS3 has a lot of multiplayer games right? for free?
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you do know that PS3 has a lot of multiplayer games right? for free?
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multiplayer must pay! yawn.gif

if we dont pay for multiplayer,it ISNT multiplayer! whistling.gif
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I deem this thread..worthy..

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wow,here's something you dont see everyday:
METAL GEAR ONLINE footage

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QUOTE(lumianic @ Apr 26 2008, 06:06 AM)
i would say xbox 360 for now ,bcoz 360 have a good potential in social gaming( you wont get bored if you got friends to play with).Ps3 old gaming concept is still on the run (very easy to get bored and no excitement when playing it--->solo gamers only).I used to play ps2 and stop playing ps2 games bcoz i get bored, imagine u facing alone with a tv screen where nobody talks to u, it is very sien 1 u know.I have those experience in my life.
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 26 2008, 10:18 AM)
PS3 also got online multiplayer game lah, but not many as Xbox360,currently compare the online system, xbox live is stronger n stable than Play Station Network, thats why this is worth to pay 40sen per day for Xbox Live, thats all ppl said"what u pay and what u gain". Maybe PlayStation Home will be another story.
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really nakata..really..
do share with us you wisdom on this

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xbox live is stronger n stable than Play Station Network, thats why this is worth to pay 40sen per day for Xbox Live, thats all ppl said"what u pay and what u gain".


I really would like you to eleborate more smile.gif mana tau kan, all those Burnout Paradise, those COD4 and Warhawk session that I had smoothly was actually not stabe and actually those devs actually hid 'backdoor crashes'..and how many crashes have you encounter during PS3 online session, judging by your post your experience with PSN may exceed others nod.gif Hey MGSRULZ, take out your pen and paper and start chalking up the points that Nakata will share with us, this is our lucky day rclxms.gif

appreciate your wisdom on this bro, on us the younglings smile.gif

edit: I quoted your whole post, takut you edit to hide the knowledge, naughty you tongue.gif i hope I am worthy for thy experience nod.gif

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I heard the PS3 version of gta 4 got better graphics. smile.gif
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"what u pay and what u gain"

i guess millions of early adopters and loyal fanbase of xbox360 basically funded the 1st ~3 million (16% of 20 million) defective consoles so that MS can afford adding an extra USD5 copper heatsink after 15 months tongue.gif

sure feel great spending your hard earned money for the xbox360 experience. "pay for a console, gain a warped motherboard" laugh.gif

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 26 2008, 10:29 AM)
really nakata..really..
do share with us you wisdom on  this
I really would like you to eleborate more smile.gif mana tau kan, all those Burnout Paradise, those COD4 and Warhawk session that I had smoothly was actually not stabe and actually those devs actually hid 'backdoor crashes'..and how many crashes have you encounter during PS3 online session, judging by your post your experience with PSN may exceed others nod.gif Hey MGSRULZ, take out your pen and paper and start chalking up the points that Nakata will share with us, this is our lucky day  rclxms.gif

appreciate your wisdom on this bro, on us the younglings smile.gif

edit: I quoted your whole post, takut you edit to hide the knowledge, naughty you tongue.gif i hope I am worthy for thy experience  nod.gif
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Thx for quote my post, i will appreciate with it, if got anything wrong with my post, also dun be shy to help me correct it. tongue.gif
Me also have quote ur post too, i also worry u edit it if something go wrong.

QUOTE(acougan @ Apr 26 2008, 10:47 AM)
"what u pay and what u gain"

i guess millions of early adopters and loyal fanbase of xbox360 basically funded the 1st ~3 million (16% of 20 million) defective consoles so that MS can afford adding an extra USD5 copper heatsink after 15 months  tongue.gif

sure feel great spending your hard earned money for the xbox360 experience. "pay for a console, gain a warped motherboard"  laugh.gif
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Ya.... they have pay it, some of them have a lot fun time with Xbox360 and Live, but that time when xbox360 start release, where is the PS3 or WII???? U only have 1 next generation console to get, if everyone know xbox360 got 3rod at early they release, who still wanna buy it, but now even some of them know it got 3rod, they still want to buy it, thats mean xbox360 still got something that worth to pay it.
But for me, i think Microsoft only want to earn money at first, they really dun care which console will be the king of console, anyway who dun want to earn big money first. laugh.gif
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Its funny that people keep quoting "you basically only need to pay Rmxx a month/day" for Xbox Live.

Sure, a few bucks a month or sen a day doesnt hurt.. But when you're paying the whole sum in one go, that's a whole different feeling.

Because the thing is, not many of us play games online everyday. So as a person who is accustomed to free multiplayer online services, it feels kinda suck to realize that you're still paying for those days that you didn't play at all.

For Xbox 360-only users, well, that's your only route to go. For us with multiplatforms, PS3 online is more attractive at the moment. And honestly, I've subscribed to Xbox Live before. In terms of server connection and whatnot, its no better than what I'm experiencing with PS3 online.

Except for the inclusion of Voice Chat in every game. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 26 2008, 11:40 AM)
Thx for quote my post, i will appreciate with it, if got anything wrong with my post, also dun be shy to help me correct it.  tongue.gif
Me also have quote ur post too, i also worry  u edit it if something go wrong.
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Sorry taikor, you didnt justify your claim below:

QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 26 2008, 11:40 AM)
PS3 also got online multiplayer game lah, but not many as Xbox360,currently compare the online system, xbox live is stronger n stable than Play Station Network, thats why this is worth to pay 40sen per day for Xbox Live, thats all ppl said"what u pay and what u gain". Maybe PlayStation Home will be another story.
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Please enlighten us at least a proof of your claim. As I see you are very vocal of it. This could open a new table of discussion you know. Dont be shy, come lets have a piece of your mind there smile.gif You might be on something big, a new discovery perhaps smile.gif Who would of thought a bright perspective and ideas might have come from..a simple classroom, a yamchar session or simply from heaps of used computers wasteland wink.gif either way, its conclusion really reflects the level of the idea bearer wink.gif

Enough chat, please, lend us your mind smile.gif

Oh yeah, this might also erupt a feeling of uneasiness of those 4,5 chaps that I helped to cancel their LiVE services in Singapore, so I do advise you not to be so blunt... wink.gif

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QUOTE(juniorpop @ Apr 25 2008, 09:32 AM)
For the PS3 we have to choose and research about the game we are attempting to buy to see whether we will like it or not.
For the 360, we can just pick up a game and TRY it to see whether it's good or not.
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QUOTE(lamusiqa @ Apr 26 2008, 01:52 PM)
Its funny that people keep quoting "you basically only need to pay Rmxx a month/day" for Xbox Live.

Sure, a few bucks a month or sen a day doesnt hurt.. But when you're paying the whole sum in one go, that's a whole different feeling.

Because the thing is, not many of us play games online everyday. So as a person who is accustomed to free multiplayer online services, it feels kinda suck to realize that you're still paying for those days that you didn't play at all.

For Xbox 360-only users, well, that's your only route to go. For us with multiplatforms, PS3 online is more attractive at the moment. And honestly, I've subscribed to Xbox Live before. In terms of server connection and whatnot, its no better than what I'm experiencing with PS3 online.

Except for the inclusion of Voice Chat in every game. tongue.gif
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But not all ppl will buy a console bcoz the console provide free online service and online game. Thats my point, u want it u gonna pay it.
Example like some country got provide Broadband service with 50MB package but only RM50 per month, but the broadband have a system that already block down the p2p and BT, so why we still need a big bandwidth? Surfing internet faster, download document faster or watching youtube more faster? I dint mean that PS3 dun have any good game for online multiplayer, but compare with Xbox360 Live, it really use to mean for online multiplayer, Gear of War and Halo series really worth it to pay for xbox live, unless u dun like these game.

QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 26 2008, 01:56 PM)
Sorry taikor, you didnt justify your claim below:
Please enlighten us at least a proof of your claim. As I see you are very vocal  of it. This could open a new table of discussion you know. Dont be shy, come lets have a piece of your mind there smile.gif You might be on something big, a new discovery perhaps smile.gif Who would of thought a bright perspective and ideas might have come from..a simple classroom, a yamchar session or simply from heaps of used computers wasteland wink.gif either way, its conclusion really reflects the level of the idea bearer wink.gif

Enough chat, please, lend us your mind smile.gif

Oh yeah, this might also erupt a feeling of uneasiness of those 4,5 chaps that I helped to cancel their LiVE services in Singapore, so I do advise you not to be so blunt... wink.gif
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I m sorry.... u just said too much nothing relate about the title.

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QUOTE(rayza @ Apr 26 2008, 10:37 AM)
I heard the PS3 version of gta 4 got better graphics. smile.gif
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subjective,i think..
some may prefer the ps3's,some may prefer the 360's...

either way,to the average player they look the same laugh.gif

QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 26 2008, 11:40 AM)
but now even some of them know it got 3rod, they still want to buy it, thats mean xbox360 still got something that worth to pay it.
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 26 2008, 11:40 AM)
But for me, i think Microsoft only want to earn money at first, they really dun care which console will be the king of console, anyway who dun want to earn big money first.  laugh.gif
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they all wanna earn money tongue.gif laugh.gif
just thanks to competition we arent given garbage rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 26 2008, 03:50 PM)
But not all ppl will buy a console bcoz the console provide free online service and online game. Thats my point, u want it u gonna pay it.
Example like some country got provide Broadband  service with 50MB package but only RM50 per month, but the broadband have a system that already block down the p2p and BT, so why we still need a big bandwidth? Surfing internet faster, download document faster or watching youtube more faster? I dint mean that PS3 dun have any good game for online multiplayer, but compare with Xbox360 Live, it really use to mean for online multiplayer, Gear of War and Halo series really worth it to pay for xbox live, unless u dun like these game.
I m sorry....  i think it will wasting my time to read ur post, ur have more than 50% of post is really not relate with the title.
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well if malaysia got offer RM 50 per month good broadband and low ping rates to US and UK , but with no p2p and torrent I would gladly take that over streamyx in a heartbeat.
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QUOTE(slickz @ Apr 26 2008, 05:47 PM)
well if malaysia got offer RM 50 per month good broadband and low ping rates to US and UK , but with no p2p and torrent I would gladly take that over streamyx in a heartbeat.
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QUOTE(earthdome @ Apr 26 2008, 06:11 PM)
BT blocked.. p2p blocked.. rapidshare FTW!
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Me just give a example, so please just get back to the topic.
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ps3 still the best at all but some game are still not availble on it...
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Apr 19 2008, 03:16 PM)
None of them. The first console was <some name> that i can't remember.

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QUOTE("nakata101")
I dint mean that PS3 dun have any good game for online multiplayer, but compare with Xbox360 Live, it really use to mean for online multiplayer, Gear of War and Halo series really worth it to pay for xbox live, unless u dun like these game.


No, what you said and meant was that Xbox Live is way better than PSN. In some ways, I agree but the main core of Xbox Live is online multiplayer gaming. If it has to charge such service just to let you play with other people online while you can do the same for free on other platforms, what makes it truly better? The games? Halo series and GeOW?

Granted, I loved the Halo series and GeOW was an excellent game but once people are tired of them, what next? Do we have to wait for another killer app before we can justify our money spent on Xbox Live subscription? If GeOW is so worth the money to spend on Xbox Live, why does the PC version offers free multiplayer gaming?

You see, the point is, even the developers want their games to be played for free by everyone. But the thing is, Microsoft decided to charge you for it by offering you something you could get for free. Your "u want it u gonna pay it" motto is basically proving my point. On other platforms, it doesnt matter if you want online gaming or not. It's always gonna be an open option and it's free for you to play since day 1!

And btw, PS3 games has dedicated servers also so even if somebody's internet connection is P2P-blocked, they can still play online just like Xbox Live.

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Ok, u can refer my previous, i said that Microsoft really doesn't care who will be the king of console now, they just want to earn more money, they got their market n different tactic from other platform, only the customer decide pay or not pay for it. Will u said that:"wah, u so stupid lah, PS3 got free for online multiplay game, why still buy xbox360 which have to charge u for LIVE."????

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 26 2008, 10:03 PM)
Ok, u can refer my previous, i said that Microsoft really doesn't care who will be the king of console now, they just want to earn more money, they got their market n different tactic from other platform, only the customer decide pay or not pay for it. Will u said that:"wah, u so stupid lah, PS3 got free for online multiplay game, why still buy xbox360 which have to charge u for LIVE."????
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well for those who are on a tight budget every ringgit counts. I'm sure there are at least some who considers that pay-to-play-online-multiplayer scheme as a negative factor when deciding which console to buy. This is just one of the factors you consider when purchasing a console. There are other factors but I don't feel like going into that now.

Oh, and for the record, I do not wish the 360 to lose badly to PS3. Let them both survive and compete with each other. We need good competition to keep them on their toes.

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You got a point there slickz. If PS3 wins completely they might charge for PSN.
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QUOTE(rayza @ Apr 26 2008, 11:33 PM)
You got a point there slickz. If PS3 wins completely they might charge for PSN.
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IIRC, phil harrison was kinda vague when it came to charges for Home.
at the moment it is free,but they could charge for it in time.

i'd rather they go 100% in home advertising then charge for Home.

if they do charge,no way in hell am i paying for that shakehead.gif
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Console tech-specs aside, what is cash-strap Sony compared to cash-rich-abudance Microsoft? Microsoft throws it weights on Xbox 360, buy game developers if they have too, make it cheap,loose money, no problem. Road shows and all. MS way, build an eco-system for other MS product to work with its console business - MSN Live,Vista,Windows Media Viewer etc.

Sony starts to copycat MS way, then the Japs might very soon see Sony sold the highest bidder, from a sushi eating staff to dimsum...some Chinese conglomerate like British car maker MG.
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for non online oriented gamers pov, and for the piece of mind of stability, get PS3
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Who cares who wins..
Who ever win we wins..hahahahha...

If sony win buy playstation
If Microsoft win buy Xbox..
just as simple as that.. brows.gif

end of story rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 27 2008, 12:29 AM)
Who cares who wins..
Who ever win we wins..hahahahha...

If sony win buy playstation
If Microsoft win buy Xbox..
just as simple as that.. brows.gif

end of story rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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so far nobody is the ultimate winner
how?
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 27 2008, 12:37 AM)
so far nobody is the ultimate winner
how?
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Ask the mighty Agong yg bijak sana...
on which one to buy...

Ok seriously...If money not an issue..I say go for Playstation for now as they can play the Bluray thingy ...
By all mean if xbox360 is the winner...then get the Box after they release the new SKU..(So call kebal 3ROD)
that's what i'm doing now smile.gif ...
Me also keep some money and wait for August for the new SKU release
So at the mean time just sit back and enjoy the show.

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 27 2008, 12:29 AM)
Who cares who wins..
Who ever win we wins..hahahahha...

If sony win buy playstation
If Microsoft win buy Xbox..
just as simple as that.. brows.gif

end of story rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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The problem is there is no ultimate winner yet!
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i think my x360 is going to get RROD again....when i startup the system....it will hang at the menu, same like last time when i had RROD. So now i leave it alone frst...later try again.

But if u can afford to pay for ori PS3 games, i highly recommend getting a PS3...not a xbox360!
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QUOTE(Dante18 @ Apr 27 2008, 01:15 AM)
i think my x360 is going to get RROD again....when i startup the system....it will hang at the menu, same like last time when i had RROD. So now i leave it alone frst...later try again.

But if u can afford to pay for ori PS3 games, i highly recommend getting a PS3...not a xbox360!
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 26 2008, 03:50 PM)
I m sorry....  u just said too much nothing relate about the title.
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ah, what I wouldnt give to see what you typed before you edit..and for your information, we are still on topic wink.gif

next time nakata, if you dont know, dont type. It gives people wrong information about the machine and yourself.

like one saying

'one must not say what one dont know'

If you have a certain point that we can discuss, give the relevant proof. we are not on some wild goose chase here.

people with integrity, speak with proof. no proof..well lets not go
there.. wink.gif

[b]carry one poeple,,I guess now one myth busted [cool.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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No need to argue la. This is just a discussion, children.
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 27 2008, 12:51 AM)

So at the mean time just sit back and enjoy the show.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 27 2008, 08:22 AM)
ah, what I wouldnt give to see what you typed before you edit..and for your information, we are still on topic wink.gif

next time nakata, if you dont know, dont type. It gives people wrong information about the machine and yourself.

like one saying

'one must not say what one dont know'

If you have a certain point that we can discuss, give the relevant proof. we are not on some wild goose chase here.

people with integrity, speak with proof. no proof..well lets not go
there.. wink.gif

[b]carry one poeple,,I guess now one myth busted [cool.gif biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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ops....sry... so please state which information i give is wrong, please state it, no need to insult ppl. Here for discuss, if u think i m wrong, please correct it with the right word. I should not to give u chance to spam here, but here is the chance for u now. Please correct my mistake.

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 27 2008, 11:05 AM)
ops....sry... so please state which information i give is wrong, please state it, no need to insult ppl. Here for discuss, if u think i m wrong, please correct it with the right word. I should not to give  u chance to spam here, but here is the chance for  u now. Please correct my mistake.
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agree..sniper is being so abit off topic I would say


and SORRY FOLKS...I am the TS...extgamer is a dupe account hehe^^.

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Microsoft better fix their damn RROD hardware problem.
Issuing 3 years warranty isn't helping.
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i wanty ULTIMATE Xbox 360

Spec:
Built in BD Player
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HD can upgrade ( ikut suka besor mana aku mau)
Built In Power Adaptor ( no more "batu baling anjing")
More lighter controller (now heavy nak mampos)
FREE online gaming no more LIVE yg kena bator...tongue.gif

The ultimate Spec;
NO MORE 3ROD...& what ever ROD ... :lol;...

if above spec 360 got.. PS3 maybe bungkus... "erkk maybe".... & i will sell my 360 Elite to buy this Ultimate 360.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 27 2008, 11:05 AM)
ops....sry... so please state which information i give is wrong, please state it, no need to insult ppl. Here for discuss, if u think i m wrong, please correct it with the right word. I should not to give  u chance to spam here, but here is the chance for  u now. Please correct my mistake.
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alamak nakata? seriuosly? I posted so many times about it. Okay I guess I have to come down to your level then.

Okay here is your statement:

QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 26 2008, 10:18 AM)
PS3 also got online multiplayer game lah, but not many as Xbox360,currently compare the online system, xbox live is stronger n stable than Play Station Network, thats why this is worth to pay 40sen per day for Xbox Live, thats all ppl said"what u pay and what u gain". Maybe PlayStation Home will be another story.
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So I replied:

QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 26 2008, 10:29 AM)
really nakata..really..
do share with us you wisdom on  this

xbox live is stronger n stable than Play Station Network, thats why this is worth to pay 40sen per day for Xbox Live, thats all ppl said"what u pay and what u gain".

I really would like you to eleborate more :) mana tau kan, all those Burnout Paradise, those COD4 and Warhawk session that I had smoothly was actually not stabe and actually those devs actually hid 'backdoor crashes'..and how many crashes have you encounter during PS3 online session, judging by your post your experience with PSN may exceed others :nod: Hey MGSRULZ, take out your pen and paper and start chalking up the points that Nakata will share with us, this is our lucky day  :clap:

appreciate your wisdom on this bro, on us the younglings :)

edit: I quoted your whole post, takut you edit to hide the knowledge, naughty you :P i hope I am worthy for thy experience  :nod:
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and you replied, made me laughed actually :lol:

QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 26 2008, 11:40 AM)
Thx for quote my post, i will appreciate with it, if got anything wrong with my post, also dun be shy to help me correct it.  :P
And I, still waiting for your answer,

QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 26 2008, 01:56 PM)
Sorry taikor, you didnt justify your claim below:
Please enlighten us at least a proof of your claim. As I see you are very vocal  of it. This could open a new table of discussion you know. Dont be shy, come lets have a piece of your mind there :) You might be on something big, a new discovery perhaps :) Who would of thought a bright perspective and ideas might have come from..a simple classroom, a yamchar session or simply from heaps of used computers wasteland ;) either way, its conclusion really reflects the level of the idea bearer ;)

Enough chat, please, lend us your mind :)

Oh yeah, this might also erupt a feeling of uneasiness of those 4,5 chaps that I helped to cancel their LiVE services in Singapore, so I do advise you not to be so blunt... ;)
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And what did I get?

QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 26 2008, 03:50 PM)
I m sorry....  u just said too much nothing relate about the title.
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Sorry to burst out your bubble (ruin your day in layman's terms) but you claimed that PSN is not stable, and I was asking for your proof. Its still on topic. Its not like I asked you how many PCs you sold today, or something like that, you get the idea I hope.Okay back to history.

QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 27 2008, 08:22 AM)
ah, what I wouldnt give to see what you typed before you edit..and for your information, we are still on topic ;)

next time nakata, if you dont know, dont type. It gives people wrong information about the machine and yourself.

like one saying

'one must not say what one dont know'

If you have a certain point that we can discuss, give the relevant proof. we are not on some wild goose chase here.

people with integrity, speak with proof. no proof..well lets not go
there.. ;)

[b]carry one poeple,,I guess now one myth busted [B] :D  :D  :D
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Summary : If you dont have any proof to back your claim, just dont type. Ever.

QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 27 2008, 11:05 AM)
ops....sry... so please state which information i give is wrong, please state it, no need to insult ppl. Here for discuss, if u think i m wrong, please correct it with the right word. I should not to give  u chance to spam here, but here is the chance for  u now. Please correct my mistake.
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There is no right or wrong. In this planet, if you claim something you must have proof. Just by claming it, without any proof, well worst, running from giving any evidence to support your claim, is .............. (just put any insulting remarks here, I see you are very flexible with it ;)

QUOTE(Osphotic @ Apr 27 2008, 02:11 PM)
agree..sniper is being so abit off topic I would say
and SORRY FOLKS...I am the TS...extgamer is a dupe account hehe^^.
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You need to learn to read properly. And coming from you, its not suprising :lol:

I have said my words. So far Nakata claims this and that, when asked for proof, nada, zilch (zero in layman's term)

So what do we call such person chidren? I let you to decide ;)

Drama over. :peace:
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 27 2008, 10:43 PM)
alamak nakata? seriuosly? I posted so many times about it. Okay I guess I have to come down to your level then.

Okay here is your statement:
So I replied:
and you replied, made me laughed actually laugh.gif
And I, still waiting for your answer,
And what did I get?
laugh.gif
Sorry to burst out your bubble (ruin your day in layman's terms) but you claimed that PSN is not stable, and I was asking for your proof. Its still on topic. Its not like I asked you how many PCs you sold today, or something like that, you get the idea I hope.Okay back to history.
Summary : If you dont have any proof to back your claim, just dont type. Ever.
There is no right or wrong. In this planet, if you claim something you must have proof. Just by claming it, without any proof, well worst, running from giving any evidence to support your claim, is .............. (just put any insulting remarks here, I see you are very flexible with it wink.gif
You need to learn to read properly. And coming from you, its not suprising laugh.gif

I have said my words. So far Nakata claims this and that, when asked for proof, nada, zilch (zero in layman's term)

So what do we call such person chidren? I let you to decide wink.gif

Drama over. icon_rolleyes.gif
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waste our time to read..
if you say he is children I would say u r a being a fussy kid.
no need to see word by word..and so fussy in this small matter dude.

and is not a big deal..of course.
if you are satisfy for your answer just keep it to yourself.
if he just wrong for what he said.
He wouldn't mean it on purpose though.
so If he is wrong and you're right you don't have to make a big fuss rite?

and I don't really get what you're talking about actually =S

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QUOTE(Osphotic @ Apr 27 2008, 10:46 PM)
waste our time to read..
if you say he is children I would say u r a being a fussy kid.
no need to see word by word..and so fussy in this small matter dude.

and is not a big deal..of course.
if you are satisfy for your answer just keep it to yourself.
if he just wrong for what he said.
He wouldn't mean it on purpose though.
so If he is wrong and you're right you don't have to make a big fuss rite?

and I don't really get what you're talking about actually =S
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Its like talking to a grass laugh.gif
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QUOTE(samurai20 @ Apr 27 2008, 07:08 PM)
i wanty ULTIMATE Xbox 360

Spec:
Built in BD Player
Wireless Built In
HD can upgrade ( ikut suka besor mana aku mau)
Built In Power Adaptor ( no more "batu baling anjing")
More lighter controller (now heavy nak mampos)
FREE online gaming no more LIVE yg kena bator...tongue.gif

The ultimate Spec;
NO MORE 3ROD...& what ever ROD ... :lol;...

if above spec 360 got.. PS3 maybe bungkus... "erkk maybe".... & i will sell my 360 Elite to buy this Ultimate 360.... laugh.gif
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PS3 the best of the BEST thumbup.gif
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PS3 the best of the BEST  thumbup.gif
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and why would PS3 be the best?

If you look at both consoles, the best is still yet to come smile.gif
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Xbox coming out with new one anyway, just hope its a giant improvement.
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M$ must included 3ROD la.. if not how cum they can sell 18 mil++.... laugh.gif.... ( half/1/4 of it 3ROD).... if more console 3ROD... more they make money...tongue.gif....
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I never thought of that!
M$..sigh..
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QUOTE(samurai20 @ Apr 28 2008, 11:46 PM)
M$ must included 3ROD la.. if not how cum they can sell 18 mil++.... laugh.gif.... ( half/1/4 of it 3ROD).... if more console 3ROD... more they make money...tongue.gif....
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LOL, got 3rod still got many ppl buy it? Wonder why??? Is this Magic or Vodoo??? tongue.gif Xbox360 owner all is rich guys?? Someone use gun force them buy it? They are stupid or idiot? They are Microsoft supporter? These sell <18 mil++> record is fake??? Unthinkable?
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 29 2008, 09:41 AM)
LOL, got 3rod still got many ppl buy it? Wonder why??? Is this Magic or Vodoo???  tongue.gif  Xbox360 owner all is rich guys?? Someone use gun force them buy it? They are stupid or idiot? They are Microsoft supporter? These sell <18 mil++> record is fake??? Unthinkable?
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I think more people are starting to realize the RROD issue by now.
Not every xbox owner are aware of the RROD issue when they bought it.
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 29 2008, 09:41 AM)
LOL, got 3rod still got many ppl buy it? Wonder why??? Is this Magic or Vodoo???  tongue.gif  Xbox360 owner all is rich guys?? Someone use gun force them buy it? They are stupid or idiot? They are Microsoft supporter? These sell <18 mil++> record is fake??? Unthinkable?
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Wonder why ? Because its the only next gen console with pirated software available , graphics nicer than Wii. If you're malaysian and familiar with the mindset of the typical malaysian you can certainly see it this way.
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i bought 360 coz got good exclusive game such as Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey, HALO, etc.... that all.. smile.gif
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Both consoles have good exclusive games, just that 360 has been around longer so you have a bigger library of exclusives.

PS3 is a multimedia device, not just a game console. On the other hand, the 360 online experience is beyond what the PS3 is offering currently.

And we know what the Wii is, it is casual, it is fun, it gets even your dad, your mom, your uncle or your grandma involved in your favourite pasttime. It made gaming a family affair.

So who is the best? I say for the first time, all three consoles stand on par with each other. So, choose whichever poison you prefer. There will be no regrets.

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for me its the game that makes u buy the console we are call gamers because we play the game. if not we would be calling our self consoler and not gamers im into ff series so playstation 3 it is for me.
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QUOTE(slickz @ Apr 29 2008, 11:01 AM)
Wonder why ? Because its the only next gen console with pirated software available , graphics nicer than Wii. If you're malaysian and familiar with the mindset of the typical malaysian you can certainly see it this way.
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So for who are looking for pirated software, u think how many Malaysian+other country have bought the Xbox360 from the record of 18million ???
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Actually, the fact that 360 games are easily pirated is one of the key reasons not only for Malaysia but the rest of the world as well.

Sure, people might not be running to the nearest mall to get their fix but they are downloading it from torrent sites so it is all the same. So, free games available online vs paid games?

You do the math, there will be tons of people going to buy the console. And when the PS3 is finally broken down, you will see flying it off the shelves when "free" games becomes easily available.
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QUOTE(zio @ Apr 29 2008, 11:39 AM)
Actually, the fact that 360 games are easily pirated is one of the key reasons not only for Malaysia but the rest of the world as well.

Sure, people might not be running to the nearest mall to get their fix but they are downloading it from torrent sites so it is all the same. So, free games available online vs paid games?

You do the math, there will be tons of people going to buy the console. And when the PS3 is finally broken down, you will see flying it off the shelves when "free" games becomes easily available.
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Nope. Other countries such as US, Japan, UK and Europe plays original games.
It is only in developing countries like Malaysia, people buy pirated games.
That is why in developed countries you see that hardware quality, graphics and library of games become the factor over deciding which console to purchase, not whether the console is able to play pirated games or not.
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sorry bro..those developed countries you listed there (except for Japan) are the big pirates. Only they dont sell them. we on the other hand, have retailers selling them.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Apr 29 2008, 12:13 PM)
sorry bro..those developed countries you listed there (except for Japan) are the big pirates. Only they dont sell them. we on the other hand, have retailers selling them.
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yup agree nod.gif they are the big source...
almost all games security are crack by the western not asian ..how many asian cracker compare to western crackers
asian are workers western are the queen...

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QUOTE(zio @ Apr 29 2008, 11:39 AM)
You do the math, there will be tons of people going to buy the console. And when the PS3 is finally broken down, you will see flying it off the shelves when "free" games becomes easily available.
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but ps3 gamers wont download,i think...
20gigs to download? sweat.gif
and in the future 50?? sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(juniorpop @ Apr 29 2008, 12:07 PM)
Nope. Other countries such as US, Japan, UK and Europe plays original games.
It is only in developing countries like Malaysia, people buy pirated games.
That is why in developed countries you see that hardware quality, graphics and library of games become the factor over deciding which console to purchase, not whether the console is able to play pirated games or not.
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i suggest you go to warez forums to form a conclusion on that.
you'd be surprise to see the USA ranking pretty high on the visitors' chart laugh.gif
not only do they download alot,they also have much better broadband than us dry.gif
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Oh well US and Japan buys original games more than us, that's for sure.
I'm a veteran in their forums and there ain't the slightest hint of piracy talk whereas in lowyat.net, you can find them daily.
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go to gametrailers.
there are those who talk about piracy.
and they dont use "ehem" or "uncle ho" or whatever, either.


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go to gametrailers.
there are those who talk about piracy.
and they dont use "ehem" or "uncle ho" or whatever, either.
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That's when you know you're browsing the PSP forums or the poster is from the other countries and they're most likely asking a question.
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They don't talk about it openly doesn't mean they don't do it.

Thats getting OT anywya. The thread asked for the best console, I say there is none at the moment.
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QUOTE(zio @ Apr 29 2008, 05:32 PM)
They don't talk about it openly doesn't mean they don't do it.

Thats getting OT anywya. The thread asked for the best console, I say there is none at the moment.
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Yup, we only can describe the best of each console but not which will be the best.
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Apr 29 2008, 05:56 PM)
Yup, we only can describe the best of each console but not which will be the best.
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hehe yea, I think the idea is to let both get support so they both can live and compete. Like cars for example, you don't want only EON to be making cars in malaysia. Ooops! Let's not get into there tongue.gif Whole lotta crap talk can open from there rclxub.gif
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love my ps3, hate my 360
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love my ps3, hate my 360
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Had the RROD?
Cuz I can't think of any reason people hating on their 360 over their PS3 for now.
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Most people fustrated over 3ROD since you dump so much money over there and it failed just like that. Not to mention have to pay so much to fix it and it comes back again.
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QUOTE(juniorpop @ Apr 29 2008, 09:42 PM)
Had the RROD?
Cuz I can't think of any reason people hating on their 360 over their PS3 for now.
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i have a working 360 and a ps3. my collection of 360 games (top quality games too) is also larger than my ps3's - yet i seldom on my 360. am i an incurable biased fanboy? laugh.gif

i think its actually better to have only 1 console cos not enough time to play all the quality games on multi-console icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(acougan @ Apr 29 2008, 10:44 PM)
i have a working 360 and a ps3. my collection of 360 games (top quality games too) is also larger than my ps3's - yet i seldom on my 360. am i an incurable biased fanboy?  laugh.gif

i think its actually better to have only 1 console cos not enough time to play all the quality games on multi-console  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Gawd, you should appreciate your consoles!
Not everybody are lucky enough to have both!
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QUOTE(juniorpop @ Apr 29 2008, 09:42 PM)
Had the RROD?
Cuz I can't think of any reason people hating on their 360 over their PS3 for now.
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actually got pass the 3ROD, its 1ROD and its E73 error cry.gif hopes someone found the cure. got lots of original titles compre to my ps3 list i've yet to play.
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can't deny that Xbox 360 does have few good exclusive titles but in the end, the console itself sux, my friend lend me his X360 with GOW, Assasins Creed and bunch of pre-installed arcade games for one month and try to persuade me to get 360 and not ps3, but still i ended up with ps3.

The games are good but i can't stand for the noisy disc tray when it spins, sounds like hurting the DVD inside, urgh!

and the bulky power unit, lame... not mentioning how many spoiled X360s in the world and XBL monthly payments.
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whoa man...your avatar ROCKS!

ok..back on topic
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ya...only reason x360 sucks is because of RROD.
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Currently still got ppl buy xbox360 bcoz of the exclusive game, some of them r boring about the FF and MGS series which is the best of PS3 exclusive game, so they dint choice PS3, but 3rod really make the ppl have to think twice b4 get xbox360.
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QUOTE(Dante18 @ Apr 30 2008, 05:49 PM)
ya...only reason x360 sucks is because of RROD.
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Another two reasons are paid online services and region locked games.
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QUOTE(juniorpop @ May 1 2008, 12:03 AM)
Another two reasons are paid online services and region locked games.
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Modded machine can skip this 2 reason...... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ May 1 2008, 06:20 AM)
Modded machine can skip this 2 reason......  laugh.gif
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oh? no wonderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr................................

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ May 1 2008, 10:07 AM)
oh? no wonderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr................................
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Ya, no wonder. Since got ppl already proof that got many ppl from all the world are using pirated software..... no wonder.......
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ May 1 2008, 06:20 AM)
Modded machine can skip this 2 reason......  laugh.gif
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You can mean you can play use xbox live for free after you mod the console?
I thought Microsoft are blocking such users?
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QUOTE(juniorpop @ May 1 2008, 12:31 PM)
You can mean you can play use xbox live for free after you mod the console?
I thought Microsoft are blocking such users?
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I can mean the modded machine owner must know that modded machine will get ban by M$ after get into the LIVE, so after ban, they can skip the reason for paying online service.
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I can mean the modded machine owner must know that modded machine will get ban by M$ after get into the LIVE, so after ban, they can skip the reason for paying online service.
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And that will lead to an even suckier reason why xbox sucks which is not being able to play online! flex.gif
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QUOTE(juniorpop @ May 1 2008, 12:40 PM)
And that will lead to an even suckier reason why xbox sucks which is not being able to play online!  flex.gif
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This is up to u if u think on that way.
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QUOTE(juniorpop @ May 1 2008, 12:40 PM)
And that will lead to an even suckier reason why xbox sucks which is not being able to play online!  flex.gif
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Not everyone will be going online to play anyway, unless one is hardcore gamer and want to put their skills to the test against players from other part of the world.

And payment for LIVE again.
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Oh well I'm not much of an online player myself.
But the way the 360 is doing things, it is kinda funny to get a 360 to play games without using their online services.
It is one of their main selling point.

So Malaysians haven't really caught up to online console gaming yet?
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QUOTE(juniorpop @ May 1 2008, 02:33 PM)
Oh well I'm not much of an online player myself.
But the way the 360 is doing things, it is kinda funny to get a 360 to play games without using their online services.
It is one of their main selling point.

So Malaysians haven't really caught up to online console gaming yet?
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you should asked TMNut for this, they have plenty of excuses await u by then sweat.gif

blame F***ing Screamyx
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Streamyx got something to do with this?
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Bad line lo. Besides, Malaysian do play games online. Mostly PC gaming I see. MMORPG la. Maple la.

I so far play CnC3 with friends online and CS only. CNC3 online hard. Keep getting out of sync.
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QUOTE(satriakid @ May 1 2008, 06:05 PM)
Bad line lo. Besides, Malaysian do play games online. Mostly PC gaming I see. MMORPG la. Maple la.

I so far play CnC3 with friends online and CS only. CNC3 online hard. Keep getting out of sync.
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Well that's why I say online 'console' gaming! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(juniorpop @ May 1 2008, 09:06 PM)
Well that's why I say online 'console' gaming! biggrin.gif
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Yup. Besides, CS no lag for me. The out of sync happens to others also playing on LAN. Seems the network interface is bugged.

Yet to see many people go online on console to play game. So far, only 1 of my friend play COD4 on live.
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the 360 is a waste if you don't go online. and who says you can't play online with the 360 on streamyx?

just because you don't or you don't know anyone who does, that doesn't mean other people are not.

sometimes, assumptions makes you look like a fool, you know.
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QUOTE(thurtin @ May 2 2008, 03:25 AM)
the 360 is a waste if you don't go online. and who says you can't play online with the 360 on streamyx?

just because you don't or you don't know anyone who does, that doesn't mean other people are not.

sometimes, assumptions makes you look like a fool, you know.
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No 1 say you couldn't but 1-2 sec lag will take out alot of fun from it.
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QUOTE(kyle9 @ May 2 2008, 10:18 AM)
No 1 say you couldn't but 1-2 sec lag will take out alot of fun from it.
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hmmmmm, i must be dreaming then that i was having fun fragging my 360 frens on cod4 for the past 2 months with almost no noticeable lag. like i said, assumptions can make you look like a fool.

and you guys said as though that streamyx is so bad that its unplayable. thats why i asked who said you couldnt go online with the 360.
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QUOTE(thurtin @ May 2 2008, 10:28 AM)
hmmmmm, i must be dreaming then that i was having fun fragging my 360 frens on cod4 for the past 2 months with almost no noticeable lag. like i said, assumptions can make you look like a fool.

and you guys said as though that streamyx is so bad that its unplayable. thats why i asked who said you couldnt go online with the 360.
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different area have different line problems, assumption makes ppl looks fools as u say but now u assume ppl line is same as yours. How great
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QUOTE(kyle9 @ May 2 2008, 11:02 AM)
different area have different line problems, assumption makes ppl looks fools as u say but now u assume ppl line is same as yours. How great
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hang on a sec, are you saying streamyx is so bad that almost everyone using it are having problems? i will admit that streamyx is not the most consistent or best in the world, but its not that bad all the time.

and fyi, there are 360 owners from all over malaysia playing online teogether every night. im not assuming that everyone are having good lines. i have first hand experience you can play online with the 360 on streamyx without any real issues. there is a difference mate.
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Some people cannot go online cause modded ma.

I did seen few of my friends who got xbox 360 go online play but some of them line keep dcing so rarely go online and didn't subscribe for LIVE

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QUOTE(thurtin @ May 2 2008, 11:13 AM)
hang on a sec, are you saying streamyx is so bad that almost everyone using it are having problems? i will admit that streamyx is not the most consistent or best in the world, but its not that bad all the time.

and fyi, there are 360 owners from all over malaysia playing online teogether every night. im not assuming that everyone are having good lines. i have first hand experience you can play online with the 360 on streamyx without any real issues. there is a difference mate.
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QUOTE(thurtin @ May 2 2008, 11:13 AM)
hang on a sec, are you saying streamyx is so bad that almost everyone using it are having problems? i will admit that streamyx is not the most consistent or best in the world, but its not that bad all the time.

and fyi, there are 360 owners from all over malaysia playing online teogether every night. im not assuming that everyone are having good lines. i have first hand experience you can play online with the 360 on streamyx without any real issues. there is a difference mate.
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Im not saying everyone is lagging on my short post which u assume i say so, but from my own experience with streamyx line. My entire 40 lvl of COD4 is level up on red line. In that situation, close combat is really impossible (u will notice u shooting empty spaces while the enemy is long gone on the dead cam). Just recently only i manage to experience on green line which is totally different scenario. Maybe is fair for me to say it takes some fun out of it.
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QUOTE(kyle9 @ May 5 2008, 10:21 AM)
Im not saying everyone is lagging on my short post which u assume i say so, but from my own experience with streamyx line. My entire 40 lvl of COD4 is level up on red line. In that situation, close combat is really impossible (u will notice u shooting empty spaces while the enemy is long gone on the dead cam). Just recently only i manage to experience on green line which is totally different scenario. Maybe is fair for me to say it takes some fun out of it.
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if you're playing with a red line connection all the time with local players, you really need to get your streamyx checked. once in a while maybe, but definitely not all the time. or are you playing with non-malaysians all the time?
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streamyx is not that bad. But expensive for such quality.
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QUOTE(thurtin @ May 5 2008, 11:19 AM)
if you're playing with a red line connection all the time with local players, you really need to get your streamyx checked. once in a while maybe, but definitely not all the time. or are you playing with non-malaysians all the time?
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I randomly find game not private game. I think is non-malaysian most of the time from the voice chat (which sometime dunno wat the fxxk they talking) and the language they speaking. Erm....im talking about ps3, not xbox btw fyi.
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QUOTE(kyle9 @ May 5 2008, 02:11 PM)
I randomly find game not private game. I think is non-malaysian most of the time from the voice chat (which sometime dunno wat the fxxk they talking) and the language they speaking. Erm....im talking about ps3, not xbox btw fyi.
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lol that is your problem dude. it's not your line. you're connecting with overseas players so of course you are gonna lag like hell. try to play with more local players and you'll enjoy gaming online a whole lot more.

thus, my original argument is still valid. streamyx is not that bad. you can mosdef game online with it. smile.gif
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QUOTE(thurtin @ May 5 2008, 02:42 PM)
lol that is your problem dude. it's not your line. you're connecting with overseas players so of course you are gonna lag like hell. try to play with more local players and you'll enjoy gaming online a whole lot more.

thus, my original argument is still valid. streamyx is not that bad. you can mosdef game online with it.  smile.gif
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Hmm, does cod4 allows ppl to juz connect to locally? i dun think so. Maybe xbox have it i dunno but if its true then a point to xboxlive, but in PSN u cant lvl up in private game and only can invite own ppl in your friendlist. I will prefer not to stay lvl 1 forever with the ugly yellow line rank so If u think streamyx is good and very satisfied of its broadband services offering smooth "intranet" line, i hav nt more to say about it except maybe praising ur level of tolerance. notworthy.gif


Added on May 6, 2008, 11:23 amAnd btw, is it really my problem when connection to oversea so lag, yah "my fault" not "streamyx", good "assumption" u have there, tell that to other user who not satisfied with streamyx to fxxk off, is their own problem.

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actually, even during PS2 online days, streamyx was not that bad..I had enjoyments with Metal Gear Online, Monster Hunter, Midnite Club..Auto Modelissta..it was Ok..not great..okay. But of course lah playing with local player rocks harder.
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for me its ps3 because of the obvious , final fantasy . thats all. others are just bonuses, like mgs4 gt5 . those games on its own already make ps3 a winner to me . because thats my taste. other ppl other taste i dont know. so end of the day. it depends on the gamer him/her self. if want to compare raw power and online gaming experience. then i dont know who win outright between the 2 . but for me if the console can give super graphic like from heaven but no final fantasy on the console also i dont care.
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streamyx is not that bad for online multiplayer..

it same goes to those oversea ppl,,
lets say we are playing COD4 & are the host on Xbox live, those oversea ppl (japan, UK, US, etc) will lag like hell if they connected to the same game,,,

it is vice versa,,,when they are the host,, we only going to get one bar only...


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QUOTE(king_kenny @ May 6 2008, 03:53 PM)
streamyx is not that bad for online multiplayer..

it same goes to those oversea ppl,,
lets say we are playing COD4 & are the host on Xbox live, those oversea ppl (japan, UK, US, etc) will lag like hell if they connected to the same game,,,

it is vice versa,,,when they are the host,, we only going to get one bar only...
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QUOTE(kyle9 @ May 6 2008, 05:17 PM)
yah, i think my area is shitest of all, lets go back to the topic, PS3  thumbup.gif  - cause it looks attractive in my bedroom even i dun play with it  rclxms.gif
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It even look more elegant and sexy when there is a spotlight aiming it.

Btw, I would love to own a PS3 but the investment, GAMES, urges me to think twice as it's way expensive currently.

Xbox, yea it doesn't look so great as we can experience in PS3 but it does save up some pocket money though. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(slickz @ May 10 2008, 08:27 PM)
cerite console fanboyism dah busuuukk let it die already.
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this is the best reply in this thread


Added on May 12, 2008, 5:16 pm
QUOTE(kyle9 @ May 6 2008, 11:21 AM)
Hmm, does cod4 allows ppl to juz connect to locally? i dun think so. Maybe xbox have it i dunno but if its true then a point to xboxlive, but in PSN u cant lvl up in private game and only can invite own ppl in your friendlist. I will prefer not to stay lvl 1 forever with the ugly yellow line rank so If u think streamyx is good and very satisfied of its broadband services offering smooth "intranet" line, i hav nt more to say about it except maybe praising ur level of tolerance.  notworthy.gif


Added on May 6, 2008, 11:23 amAnd btw, is it really my problem when connection to oversea so lag, yah "my fault" not "streamyx", good "assumption" u have there, tell that to other user who not satisfied with streamyx to fxxk off, is their own problem.
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err dude, although i dont have the ps3 (yet!), i'm very sure you can start a party with your friends and play together on ranked matches.

and you dont have to be so defensive la. it's ok if you dont know how to connect to local players to rank up. smile.gif

Yes, i am very aware that streamyx sucks, but the point is you can enjoy gaming online with it nevertheless. ok la, granted that the best experience is when you're playing with local players, but its better than nothing. no?

And please be reminded that connecting with overseas players on the outer side of the world is still gonna lag like a b**** unless you're on a 100MB line or something.

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PS3 is overall the better console. Unless u are really into Halo or gears of war.
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PS3 is overall the better console. Unless u are really into Halo or gears of war.
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PS3 is the all round winner i guess !
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I bought PS3 is not entirely for games..but to watch blu-ray movies as well, kinda worth it. (at least for me lo)
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QUOTE(thurtin @ May 12 2008, 05:57 PM)
can you kindly explain why?
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QUOTE(thurtin @ May 12 2008, 04:55 PM)
this is the best reply in this thread


Added on May 12, 2008, 5:16 pm

err dude, although i dont have the ps3 (yet!), i'm very sure you can start a party with your friends and play together on ranked matches.

and you dont have to be so defensive la. it's ok if you dont know how to connect to local players to rank up.  smile.gif 

Yes, i am very aware that streamyx sucks, but the point is you can enjoy gaming online with it nevertheless. ok la, granted that the best experience is when you're playing with local players, but its better than nothing. no?

And please be reminded that connecting with overseas players on the outer side of the world is still gonna lag like a b**** unless you're on a 100MB line or something.
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In ps3 private game cannot be ranked. Yes u can join and play with ur friends but u and ur party will join game randomly as well. Once in blue moon u will able to host a game urself.
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i have both system, PS3 and Xbox 360.. for me they all good.. It depends on what type of game you want to play.

a) xbox360 for Halo and gears of war !!! this is the best game that i ever had.
b) PS3 also rock, MGS and incoming KillZone 2.. waa.. can't wait for that game..


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I vote for PS3
I'm more attracted with the games(ff yeah!) as i'm satisfy with PS2 games i've played, so i think ps3 will continue my satisfaction.
I don't play first person shooter games with in console, coz i think it's hard to use a joystick to play them. I would buy Xbox360 if i can play FPS games as natural as using a mouse in PC.

So iwant to ask based on experience, anyone, do u find it's easy to play FPS games in consoles, using a joystick? Or does it have other devices like a mouse that i don't know?
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QUOTE(Federer @ May 14 2008, 11:11 AM)
I vote for PS3
I'm more attracted with the games(ff yeah!) as i'm satisfy with PS2 games i've played, so i think ps3 will continue my satisfaction.
I don't play first person shooter games with in console, coz i think it's hard to use a joystick to play them. I would buy Xbox360 if i can play FPS games as natural as using a mouse in PC.

So iwant to ask based on experience, anyone, do u find it's easy to play FPS games in consoles, using a joystick? Or does it have other devices like a mouse that i don't know?
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i was just like you last time, thinking how can i ever play a FPS on consoles when i'm so used to the mouse and keyboard. then i tried gears of war and i was really surprised how far fps on the consoles have come.

i guess u have to keep an open mind when you play a fps on the console, especially if you're so used to the keyboard and mouse. it's definitely very playable and a lot of fun. i still enjoy playing fps on the pc, but right now a lot of the good fps games are coming out for the consoles first though.

the older fps games like for the ps2 were quite rubbish, but the current ones for the 360 and ps3 are really good. though i must say, i prefer the ones for the 360. i like the controller because it feels solid and i have big hands. and of course, the 360 has the better multiplayer option which is so easy to use and to find ppl to play with.


Added on May 14, 2008, 12:00 pm
QUOTE(kyle9 @ May 13 2008, 12:10 PM)
In ps3 private game cannot be ranked. Yes u can join and play with ur friends but u and ur party will join game randomly as well. Once in blue moon u will able to host a game urself.
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can't you create a party of 6 and host the game? once u host the game, u can invite other frens to join the game. thats how the 360 cod4 kakis play together.

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gears of war FPS? rclxub.gif

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i'll vouch to that. aside from forza2, that was the only 360 game that made my spandex wet, a bit..well, wet...meoww!
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I want to speak out my Opinion here.

Get XBOX ------ and then 3ROD ------- DIE DIE DIE --------Dunno until when got 3ROD ---scare newbies la.

Get PS3 ------- Enjoy The games for now ------ eventually the ps3 community will get bigger -------eventually more games will be out for ps3.
and at last PS3 will outshine XBOX360 as what PS2 did to XBOX what.

I see that the old Xbox like dead already no new titles but PS2 still has titles coming out now and then.
Opps forgot about the 1 billion Microsoft spent on 360's 3ROD prob ---- No wonder they just stopped the old XBOX's titles.


PS3 is the way to go because DVD is for movies ok lah, but not for next-gen games (is what i think)


I hope you don't take it personally Xbox Fans---- but it's the truth and basically my opinion..... so don't get confused here. I'm not running for president ok.



P.S: Nie bukan nak start apa2.... nie nak ckp sbb aku baca je post nie buat aku terasa nak post sesuatu la.... Jangan Marah, kita enjoy.
But seriously la, i should and would get the Xbox360 then la, tp 3ROD tu menakutkan la beb. Kalau aku duduk AMERICA tu, xde hal kot. Sbb klu sblm nak beli sesuatu tu aku survey kat forum selalu, tp yang local forum pun macam ada yang confirmkan yg XBOX360 kat M'sia nie tak cure lg je. Apa yg aku nampak lah. Sbb ye 1st Person, Xbox punya controller is the way to go.

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Actually you can claim warranty for that , provided you have a singapore set and didnt flash anything there.
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Customer always have the right to choice their like. Each console got their good n bad, depend n refer the exclusive game urself and choice the right one.
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QUOTE(Federer @ May 14 2008, 11:11 AM)
I vote for PS3
I'm more attracted with the games(ff yeah!) as i'm satisfy with PS2 games i've played, so i think ps3 will continue my satisfaction.
I don't play first person shooter games with in console, coz i think it's hard to use a joystick to play them. I would buy Xbox360 if i can play FPS games as natural as using a mouse in PC.

So iwant to ask based on experience, anyone, do u find it's easy to play FPS games in consoles, using a joystick? Or does it have other devices like a mouse that i don't know?
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I like u bro before.. now i cant play FPS using....PC rclxub.gif rclxub.gif .... donno why feel weird.... laugh.gif... now playing COD4 and next HAZE.... all FPS game... very enjoy playing COD4 using controller....

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wow u guys. ps3 really sucks man. haven't you guys been reading? it came out a year late, there are less games on that platform since most has either shifted to xbox or some even cross platforming. its easier and cheaper to build games for xbox and since xbox has been out for a while most games on the ps3 are ports from the xbox. and hence the result are much more inferior quality. price wise, ps3 is too damn expensive even for the darn 20gig phased out model. graphics wise, the xbox is the clear winner and its been proven that the xbox handles hd, anti-aliased, with complex shaders game content way way better than the ps3.and as for the 3rod crap, just get an intercooler man. solves the problem. and its cheap too.

gamewise, the xbox is the clear winner, with a whole lot of games as compared to the ps3 and the quality is much much better as i explained above. im not a fanboy since i own a ps3 and have been a ps supporter as well and i've made the comparison myself. but the ps3 is a bit of a disappointment. the only things that are gonna keep me playing that machine is if the next god of war or shadow of the colossus comes out. gonna sell this thing off soon. pfft, what a waste sad.gif

to final fantasy and mgs fanboys, seriously guys. test the xbox and you'll see the difference. even final fantasy cant save the ps3 this time. besides the xbox has Lost Odyssey and its friggin AWESOME!! FF7 lovers are gonna love this cuz im friggin loving it smile.gif

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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 15 2008, 03:28 PM)
wow u guys. ps3 really sucks man. haven't you guys been reading? it came out a year late, there are less games on that platform since most has either shifted to xbox or some even cross platforming. its easier and cheaper to build games for xbox and since xbox has been out for a while most games on the ps3 are ports from the xbox. and hence the result are much more inferior quality. price wise, ps3 is too damn expensive even for the darn 20gig phased out model. graphics wise, the xbox is the clear winner and its been proven that the xbox handles hd, anti-aliased, with complex shaders game content way way better than the ps3.and as for the 3rod crap, just get an intercooler man. solves the problem. and its cheap too.

gamewise, the xbox is the clear winner, with a whole lot of games as compared to the ps3 and the quality is much much better as i explained above. im not a fanboy since i own a ps3 and have been a ps supporter as well and i've made the comparison myself. but the ps3 is a bit of a disappointment. the only things that are gonna keep me playing that machine is if the next god of war or shadow of the colossus comes out. gonna sell this thing off soon. pfft, what a waste sad.gif

to final fantasy and mgs fanboys, seriously guys. test the xbox and you'll see the difference. even final fantasy cant save the ps3 this time. besides the xbox has Lost Odyssey and its friggin AWESOME!! FF7 lovers are gonna love this cuz im friggin loving it smile.gif
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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 15 2008, 03:28 PM)
wow u guys. ps3 really sucks man. haven't you guys been reading? it came out a year late, there are less games on that platform since most has either shifted to xbox or some even cross platforming. its easier and cheaper to build games for xbox and since xbox has been out for a while most games on the ps3 are ports from the xbox. and hence the result are much more inferior quality. price wise, ps3 is too damn expensive even for the darn 20gig phased out model. graphics wise, the xbox is the clear winner and its been proven that the xbox handles hd, anti-aliased, with complex shaders game content way way better than the ps3.and as for the 3rod crap, just get an intercooler man. solves the problem. and its cheap too.

gamewise, the xbox is the clear winner, with a whole lot of games as compared to the ps3 and the quality is much much better as i explained above. im not a fanboy since i own a ps3 and have been a ps supporter as well and i've made the comparison myself. but the ps3 is a bit of a disappointment. the only things that are gonna keep me playing that machine is if the next god of war or shadow of the colossus comes out. gonna sell this thing off soon. pfft, what a waste sad.gif

to final fantasy and mgs fanboys, seriously guys. test the xbox and you'll see the difference. even final fantasy cant save the ps3 this time. besides the xbox has Lost Odyssey and its friggin AWESOME!! FF7 lovers are gonna love this cuz im friggin loving it smile.gif
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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 15 2008, 03:28 PM)
wow u guys. ps3 really sucks man. haven't you guys been reading? it came out a year late, there are less games on that platform since most has either shifted to xbox or some even cross platforming. its easier and cheaper to build games for xbox and since xbox has been out for a while most games on the ps3 are ports from the xbox. and hence the result are much more inferior quality. price wise, ps3 is too damn expensive even for the darn 20gig phased out model. graphics wise, the xbox is the clear winner and its been proven that the xbox handles hd, anti-aliased, with complex shaders game content way way better than the ps3.and as for the 3rod crap, just get an intercooler man. solves the problem. and its cheap too.

gamewise, the xbox is the clear winner, with a whole lot of games as compared to the ps3 and the quality is much much better as i explained above. im not a fanboy since i own a ps3 and have been a ps supporter as well and i've made the comparison myself. but the ps3 is a bit of a disappointment. the only things that are gonna keep me playing that machine is if the next god of war or shadow of the colossus comes out. gonna sell this thing off soon. pfft, what a waste sad.gif

to final fantasy and mgs fanboys, seriously guys. test the xbox and you'll see the difference. even final fantasy cant save the ps3 this time. besides the xbox has Lost Odyssey and its friggin AWESOME!! FF7 lovers are gonna love this cuz im friggin loving it smile.gif
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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 15 2008, 04:58 PM)
wow u guys. ps3 really sucks man. haven't you guys been reading? it came out a year late, there are less games on that platform since most has either shifted to xbox or some even cross platforming. its easier and cheaper to build games for xbox and since xbox has been out for a while most games on the ps3 are ports from the xbox. and hence the result are much more inferior quality. price wise, ps3 is too damn expensive even for the darn 20gig phased out model. graphics wise, the xbox is the clear winner and its been proven that the xbox handles hd, anti-aliased, with complex shaders game content way way better than the ps3.and as for the 3rod crap, just get an intercooler man. solves the problem. and its cheap too.

gamewise, the xbox is the clear winner, with a whole lot of games as compared to the ps3 and the quality is much much better as i explained above. im not a fanboy since i own a ps3 and have been a ps supporter as well and i've made the comparison myself. but the ps3 is a bit of a disappointment. the only things that are gonna keep me playing that machine is if the next god of war or shadow of the colossus comes out. gonna sell this thing off soon. pfft, what a waste sad.gif

to final fantasy and mgs fanboys, seriously guys. test the xbox and you'll see the difference. even final fantasy cant save the ps3 this time. besides the xbox has Lost Odyssey and its friggin AWESOME!! FF7 lovers are gonna love this cuz im friggin loving it smile.gif
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Aiya, sorry, but i hear a distinct hint of fanboyism. Hahahaha. Well, if you ask me, the solution is simple. It goes two ways:

If you already have a 360, then of course the ps3 seems like a waste, cuz most of the games ps3 got, 360 also got. So why buy new console to get same games u can get for your old console?

But if your JUST about to buy a console, a PS3 would be better ah. Its more future proof. Spec wise, its higher and its got more value (more HDD, Blu Ray, Wifi). And if your gonna complain that the 360 games look better, its because the 360 came out earlier! So the developers are more skilled at making 360 games. Give it time, by the time the developers get the hang of developing for the ps3, im sure the ps3 will outshine the 360. Its like comparing the smarts of an older brother and a younger brother. Well duh the older brother can do whatever the younger brother can do better, but its an uneven playing field. Plus, the 360 has reached its peak. Buying one now would be a waste as its already halfway into its life cycle.

I won't say that 360 games are ALL better then the ps3, but each console has its awesome games! Now, I haven't played any FPS game as fluid as Halo 3 on the PS3, but then again, no other racing game can match Gran Turismo 5.

And before you call me a PS3 fanboy, i have both consoles too!

Well, thats my 2 cents in the matter. Anyone agree with me?
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agree with u bro... same as me... got both console but i play PS3 lots more then my 360... laugh.gif... ( must have GOLD LIVE to play online..) and if u ask me.. 360 service center suk la ( singapore)... lazy people... wanna cancel LIVE ... pun cam **tut**......dry.gif
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so ayusmi
can i remove u from my frenzlist??
new fella commin and old fella didnt online will be remove
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ive been hit by 3rod
once only...and i also has been change my dvd-drive once
the thing is..i love play 360 coz the community im on it
multiplayer is everything..i dun want play storymode only..after finish then sell it...
who know..after i bought ps3..i will be like yus aka samurai20
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Added on May 15, 2008, 6:40 pmaddon:
i forgot where i read this quote :

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gaming hobby is luuxury hobby..u will burn ur pocket and ur money will be spend more and more..if u cant stand the heat..dont ever try to jump into it


very true i think
but for the fun...u cant buy it anywhere
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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 15 2008, 03:28 PM)
wow u guys. ps3 really sucks man. haven't you guys been reading? it came out a year late, there are less games on that platform since most has either shifted to xbox or some even cross platforming. its easier and cheaper to build games for xbox and since xbox has been out for a while most games on the ps3 are ports from the xbox. and hence the result are much more inferior quality. price wise, ps3 is too damn expensive even for the darn 20gig phased out model. graphics wise, the xbox is the clear winner and its been proven that the xbox handles hd, anti-aliased, with complex shaders game content way way better than the ps3.and as for the 3rod crap, just get an intercooler man. solves the problem. and its cheap too.

gamewise, the xbox is the clear winner, with a whole lot of games as compared to the ps3 and the quality is much much better as i explained above. im not a fanboy since i own a ps3 and have been a ps supporter as well and i've made the comparison myself. but the ps3 is a bit of a disappointment. the only things that are gonna keep me playing that machine is if the next god of war or shadow of the colossus comes out. gonna sell this thing off soon. pfft, what a waste sad.gif

to final fantasy and mgs fanboys, seriously guys. test the xbox and you'll see the difference. even final fantasy cant save the ps3 this time. besides the xbox has Lost Odyssey and its friggin AWESOME!! FF7 lovers are gonna love this cuz im friggin loving it smile.gif
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Hey bro,

u said u wanted to sell off your PS3 right? If you really really really do..... holler in the community k. Cause there are some whose looking for it...
and of course what is not darn expensive these days...... even a bag of rice is expensive.

P.S: PS3 40GB set if you really sniff around actually you can get it for Rm12++.00 already. But if you're selling your set for RM1000 i'd definitely consider. It'll be cool to have an extra set anyway. One for home, and the other for take away to friends place whenever i please and to park at office during lunch time.


Added on May 15, 2008, 7:39 pm
QUOTE(snipersnake @ May 15 2008, 07:41 AM)
Actually you can claim warranty for that , provided you have a singapore set and didnt flash anything there.
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ya of course, but i'm stating the general terms of what if the Xbox is flashed and you falcon chipset"onized" the XBOX360. Warranty kedai smpi bila.
Singapore don't say anymore la, i'm staying at Selangor, Malaysia. Last i went to Singapore was about 10 years ago.

P.S: Yes of course there is a remedy to prevent 3ROD but what i stated last is about the newbies, if they were to survey here how. The first thing they see about XboX360 would be 3ROD. Newbies meaning the ones who are in the lookout for a next-gen console. of course ppl would compare first, unless they're filthy rich and have no care for money different story la.

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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ May 15 2008, 06:36 PM)
so ayusmi
can i remove u from my frenzlist??
new fella commin and old fella didnt online will be remove
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ive been hit by 3rod
once only...and i also has been change my dvd-drive once
the thing is..i love play 360 coz the community im on it
multiplayer is everything..i dun want play storymode only..after finish then sell it...
who know..after i bought ps3..i will be like yus aka samurai20
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Added on May 15, 2008, 6:40 pmaddon:
i forgot where i read this quote :
very true i think
but for the fun...u cant buy it anywhere
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oit jgn rmove lagi... after this GOW2 coming.. so for sure i will jump ship lak... ok.. but now every night play COD4 PS3 so no time for 360... biggrin.gif...
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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 15 2008, 03:28 PM)
wow u guys. ps3 really sucks man. haven't you guys been reading? it came out a year late, there are less games on that platform since most has either shifted to xbox or some even cross platforming. its easier and cheaper to build games for xbox and since xbox has been out for a while most games on the ps3 are ports from the xbox. and hence the result are much more inferior quality. price wise, ps3 is too damn expensive even for the darn 20gig phased out model. graphics wise, the xbox is the clear winner and its been proven that the xbox handles hd, anti-aliased, with complex shaders game content way way better than the ps3.and as for the 3rod crap, just get an intercooler man. solves the problem. and its cheap too.

gamewise, the xbox is the clear winner, with a whole lot of games as compared to the ps3 and the quality is much much better as i explained above. im not a fanboy since i own a ps3 and have been a ps supporter as well and i've made the comparison myself. but the ps3 is a bit of a disappointment. the only things that are gonna keep me playing that machine is if the next god of war or shadow of the colossus comes out. gonna sell this thing off soon. pfft, what a waste sad.gif

to final fantasy and mgs fanboys, seriously guys. test the xbox and you'll see the difference. even final fantasy cant save the ps3 this time. besides the xbox has Lost Odyssey and its friggin AWESOME!! FF7 lovers are gonna love this cuz im friggin loving it smile.gif
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Post of week!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Shadow of the Colossus 2 drool.gif drool.gif , hope this game will not release on the time like the first one when PS2 have reach the peak.
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no PSN ID= donkey crap fanboy posting. as simple as that wink.gif
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no PSN ID= donkey crap fanboy posting. as simple as that wink.gif
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seriously, this faggy ass thread should have been closed by now. everybody have made the decision.
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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 15 2008, 03:28 PM)
wow u guys. ps3 really sucks man. haven't you guys been reading? it came out a year late, there are less games on that platform since most has either shifted to xbox or some even cross platforming. its easier and cheaper to build games for xbox and since xbox has been out for a while most games on the ps3 are ports from the xbox. and hence the result are much more inferior quality. price wise, ps3 is too damn expensive even for the darn 20gig phased out model. graphics wise, the xbox is the clear winner and its been proven that the xbox handles hd, anti-aliased, with complex shaders game content way way better than the ps3.and as for the 3rod crap, just get an intercooler man. solves the problem. and its cheap too.

gamewise, the xbox is the clear winner, with a whole lot of games as compared to the ps3 and the quality is much much better as i explained above. im not a fanboy since i own a ps3 and have been a ps supporter as well and i've made the comparison myself. but the ps3 is a bit of a disappointment. the only things that are gonna keep me playing that machine is if the next god of war or shadow of the colossus comes out. gonna sell this thing off soon. pfft, what a waste sad.gif

to final fantasy and mgs fanboys, seriously guys. test the xbox and you'll see the difference. even final fantasy cant save the ps3 this time. besides the xbox has Lost Odyssey and its friggin AWESOME!! FF7 lovers are gonna love this cuz im friggin loving it smile.gif
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HAHAHAHAHA laugh.gif laugh.gif I don't know where to beginnnnn HAHAHAHAHAHA

oh nevermind. I have said what I wanted to say about the whole issue already. lazy to type.
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how do i check my psn id dude? got no internet line at home. maybe i should just post the serial number yea? seriously man geez.

im just saying thru what i experienced. so far the ps3 has been not really good from my point of view. graphics wise like i said maybe when the first party games such as GOW come out then only you can really tell what the ps3 can do. and i think the ps3 appeals more towards the traditional gamers. i like new stuff. so its a breath of fresh air actually. plus the lighting is way way better on the 360 if you havent noticed.

the intercooler works. 3rods are becuz of the thermal paste melting away to your circuit board and blocking the current flow. better cooling, no more heating, no 3rod. plain and simple.

and as a final note. i like the xbox more. thanx smile.gif but after some of you very loyal ps3 owners' comments i might even consider keeping this thing for a while longer or at least until mgs comes out and see if it was worth the looooooooonnnnggg wait.

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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 16 2008, 11:22 PM)
how do i check my psn id dude? got no internet line at home. maybe i should just post the serial number yea? seriously man geez.
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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 16 2008, 11:22 PM)
and as a final note. i like the xbox more. thanx smile.gif but after some of you very loyal ps3 owners' comments i might even consider keeping this thing for a while longer or at least until mgs comes out and see if it was worth the looooooooonnnnggg wait.
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some of us not loyal to sony/ps...more loyal to the games it has biggrin.gif
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lol yea. been more of a party gamer with friends and stuff. but will once i get my line in here. lol i think my name black listed d cuz i din't pay a few years back. XD later peoples. keep on gaming! whichever console you're on, gotta go back home.

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some of us not loyal to sony/ps...more loyal to the games it has biggrin.gif
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Hahaha! I like ur reasoning.

Hey, and just incase u didn't hear, i read reports (on Engadget i think) that the Intercooler actually can fry ur xbox even more cuz it over use power.
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Just close this thread already. Too many crappy stuff is appearing here. Fanboys everywhere. Just buy the console you like and thats the end of it
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QUOTE(TerryZeroX @ May 17 2008, 02:26 AM)
Just close this thread already. Too many crappy stuff is appearing here. Fanboys everywhere. Just buy the console you like and thats the end of it
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Saying PS3 or xbox sucks is just about as childish as saying vanilla ice cream sucks or chocolate ice cream sucks. It's ur damn preference. Hell if ur a micro genius fanboy then both ps3 and 360 will suck to you.
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i would say that xbox 360 is sucessful because they have so many games .besides some games made exclusive for sony are also available for 360 like Gta IV . more the developers are interested of making games for 360 compare to sony .. but sony has blu ray disc that was advantage .. i guess if you own a slim tv why dont try to have both drool.gif
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mayeb this thread will be closed if legendary excult gamer fella post in here
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to make easy conclusion bout this thread :

- if u prefer sony playstation 3 then go for ps3

- and if u like a Xbox360 then play 360.

why to compare between the 2 next gen console...who is better...at the end of the day...nothing happens...just play what u have and u must know why u choose it...no need to bla bla here and there !

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I would say both are good console that are able to generate impressive graphics. Honestly speaking, XBOX360 should be the inferior console due to it's 3RROD. I would say although they have shipped out roughly around 20 million units worldwide, the actual number of working XBOX 360s could only be somewhere in between 13-15 million. The rest are dead due to 3RROD. I do admire games like Gears Of War but to know that you are buying something that may not last, it's really a pain in the ass!
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im surprise this thread expand 14 pages long..i thought this issue has been dealt urmm....1 years ago?

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QUOTE(K-End @ May 17 2008, 08:53 PM)
im surprise this thread expand 14 pages long..i thought this issue has been dealt urmm....1  years ago?
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QUOTE(Thrust @ May 17 2008, 08:58 PM)
So, what was the conclusion back then??  hmm.gif
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seriously, stop with the "<insert any console/company here> SUCK!!"...it useless.


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QUOTE(Thrust @ May 17 2008, 08:32 PM)
I would say both are good console that are able to generate impressive graphics. Honestly speaking, XBOX360 should be the inferior console due to it's 3RROD. I would say although they have shipped out roughly around 20 million units worldwide, the actual number of working XBOX 360s could only be somewhere in between 13-15 million. The rest are dead due to 3RROD. I do admire games like Gears Of War but to know that you are buying something that may not last, it's really a pain in the ass!
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LOL , so u mean xbox360 still give such a pain in the ass at the end?
Anyway...
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Wonder how many pain in ass the he got. whistling.gif (Sorry gnome, i borrow your picture for a while.)
Wonder why they still buy xbox360, even they know it got RROD, ya, i finally know why, bcoz they got what they want, they dun care about the pain in ass.

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ May 17 2008, 09:30 PM)
LOL , so u mean xbox360 still give such a pain in the ass at the end?
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Wonder how many pain in ass the he got.  whistling.gif (Sorry gnome, i borrow your picture for a while.)
Wonder why they still buy xbox360, even they know it got RROD, ya, i finally know why, bcoz they got what they want, they dun care about the pain in ass.
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QUOTE(lordzarx @ May 17 2008, 09:51 PM)
where is nintendo WII... doh.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ May 17 2008, 09:30 PM)
LOL , so u mean xbox360 still give such a pain in the ass at the end?
Anyway... 
user posted image
Wonder how many pain in ass the he got.  whistling.gif (Sorry gnome, i borrow your picture for a while.)
Wonder why they still buy xbox360, even they know it got RROD, ya, i finally know why, bcoz they got what they want, they dun care about the pain in ass.
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who's the blue-hair bride in the picture?... looks hot wub.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ May 17 2008, 09:30 PM)
LOL , so u mean xbox360 still give such a pain in the ass at the end?
Anyway... 
user posted image
Wonder how many pain in ass the he got.  whistling.gif (Sorry gnome, i borrow your picture for a while.)
Wonder why they still buy xbox360, even they know it got RROD, ya, i finally know why, bcoz they got what they want, they dun care about the pain in ass.
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see? If you really like the games in the 360 u should be prepared to buy backups of your 360 in case one of them lucks out. This way when u send for warranty u can still use the other one. Then if that one also kaput then u have your third backup. Its very unlikely the third backup gets spoiled as well.
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QUOTE(slickz @ May 17 2008, 10:16 PM)
see? If you really like the games in the 360 u should be prepared to buy backups of your 360 in case one of them lucks out. This way when u send for warranty u can still use the other one. Then if that one also kaput then u have your third backup. Its very unlikely the third backup gets spoiled as well.
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LOL, u r right, at here already got many member asking for the current price of Xbox360 after they found out their current xbox360 freeze for few time.
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QUOTE(Dante18 @ May 18 2008, 02:18 AM)
omg...why so many x360??
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well they got money to purchased so many xbox360`s...i dont think to backup incase 3rod....may be all of his 360s diff region...PAL , NTSC and NTSC J...so where ever he or she go , there should be no probs to purchased any game.....
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Buying backups XBOX 360 should be ok for a working adult/gamer in case their 1st unit fail. Microsoft would also be laughing behind the back door as loyal XBOX 360 fans will have no choice but to fork out more on another console with the exception of gamers being in countries supported by their 3 years warranty.

Let's imagine you were 10 years younger, still a student (Not applicable to rich kids) tongue.gif. Your dad will only buy you 1 console and you've choosen the 360. Months later, the unit got hit by 3RROD. How would you feel? In terms of games, I have to agree XBOX 360 does have an impressive lineups. It's just that the design and reliability of the console is not up to the standard failure rates are high). Microsoft did a rush job on releasing the console and consumers that support it has to suffers sad.gif

Note: 360 fanboys will sure flame me for this but this is the fact they know as well. It's just that they can't accept the fact. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Thrust @ May 18 2008, 09:16 AM)
Buying backups XBOX 360 should be ok for a working adult/gamer in case their 1st unit fail. Microsoft would also be laughing behind the back door as loyal XBOX 360 fans will have no choice but to fork out more on another console with the exception of gamers being in countries supported by their 3 years warranty. 

Let's imagine you were 10 years younger, still a student (Not applicable to rich kids) tongue.gif. Your dad will only buy you 1 console and you've choosen the 360. Months later, the unit got hit by 3RROD. How would you feel? In terms of games, I have to agree XBOX 360 does have an impressive lineups. It's just that the design and reliability of the console is not up to the standard failure rates are high). Microsoft did a rush job on releasing the console and consumers that support it has to suffers sad.gif

Note: 360 fanboys will sure flame me for this but this is the fact they know as well. It's just that they can't accept the fact.  tongue.gif
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How do we feel, angry? sad? complain? Anyway those feeling cant help the xbox360 revive,so just send it for claim is the only way. But for the gamer who only want to play a game, entertainment and no certain game wanted, if i am a game shop seller, i will suggest the customer get the PS3 or WII than xbox360. If they still want to get the xbox360, we only can tell them about the RROD, so they will take the risk by themselves.
Anyway buying another backups xbox360 is only for the hardcore gamer or the rich guys.

Note: I think many lowyat xbox360 users know that their console machine will hit by 3rod at uncertain times, but they got what they want with their console, so no one will flame on u.
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the fact is i forked out cold hard cash for this thing. its not like something you can jut go out and get everyday you know. so thats why its a big deal. it took me 2 months to have enough cash for the xbox after i got the ps. so you see, why my anger is not baseless lol. plus, games are not cheap either. its not like you can rent them here.

and that's why im saying as till now the xbox is the better console to own. by the way, lost odyssey is awesome but the battles! omg!! word of warning to potential buyers of this game, its gonna be a really long ride people. but its worth it.

personal review :
voice acting (very good, although some characters are those usual stereotypes (hint: bad guys))

graphics, very awesome but choppy at times (mistwalker needs to revamp their programming and game design, seriously man.)

storyline, wow. if you've been complaining that games nowadays lack storyline and depth then this game should shut you up good. it takes you a good 2 and a half hours to reach the next battle scene from the first one. haha! but the attention to detail is amazing.

battles, umm this one im not so fond of. i mean come on, its 2008 and on the next gen consoles and still i have to deal with random battles and turn based system? the battle system here is interesting and good but its way past time to change tho.

loading times, yes..my favorite part. i can bet that after or when rather i finish this game, i may well have changed into a better person. better in terms of patience. cuz the loading times are CRAZY!! i haven't seen this much loading screens since ever. but the story forces me to play on!! grrrr!! damn you hironobu sakaguchi!!

but all in all, im quite pleased with this game. still on the first disc on the 6th hour of play and get this the main guy is only at lvl 18 lol! and only recently got a new character in. after more than five hours into it that is T_T alright i hope this game will last me long enough at least till mgs comes out XD
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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 18 2008, 09:47 PM)
the fact is i forked out cold hard cash for this thing. its not like something you can jut go out and get everyday you know. so thats why its a big deal. it took me 2 months to have enough cash for the xbox after i got the ps.
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QUOTE(' or 1=1 -- @ May 18 2008, 09:47 PM)
games are not cheap either. its not like you can rent them here.

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some forummers here provide renting services biggrin.gif

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something in wonder, I still sees the ppl around here complaining abt 3RROD but isn't that Falcon system virtually eliminated the problem?

I've run my XB360 for 3 full months now and so far yet to get any problem.....

In fact some shops warned me abt potential problem on PS3 BD raeder problem and recommend me XB as initially i do wanna buy PS3.

I've brought one XB due to response given to console repairer. so why bragging about 3RROD if the problem is history?
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thats the thing , why need to come out with that falcon system so to speak to eliminate the problem ? why was the problem there in the 1st place, now thats the question.
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Getting a PS3 to game soon, have given up on my Xbox360... all those time wasted to grab GamerScore doh.gif

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thats the thing ,  why need to come out with that falcon system so to speak to eliminate the problem ?    why was the problem there in the 1st place, now thats the question.
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I tot M$ admitted their design & manufacturing flaw on previous system and promised a 3 yrs warranty. I think only bashers don't accept that as answer.

And AFAIK every consoles have their so called revision cycle. The falcon is a part of it for 360. So, I dont even think intro of Falcon is a way ONLY to solve 3RROD problem....? I know that falcon is also cheaper to manufacture. that's all I know
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Are some of you comparing between the systems and how the 360 rrod's so easily ? I have a colleague who just bought his PS3 bout 3 months ago, and his lens just blew ... bah .. such luck ... and btw he hardly plays his p3
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get a ps3 guys smile.gif most of the best games in xbox360 like gears of war, fable, bioshock & mass effect has all been or will be released on PC as well.so i don't see the need to buy 360 should you have a good PC. just buy a ps3 since most of the games are release as multi-platform. For exclusives, i believe the ps3 lineup (Resistance 2, Little Big Planet, Kill Zone 2, FF13, MGS4, GT5 to name a few) is far more better than 360 upcoming lineups.
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QUOTE(ravemaster @ May 23 2008, 10:24 AM)
get a ps3 guys smile.gif most of the best games in xbox360 like gears of war, fable, bioshock & mass effect has all been or will be released on PC as well.so i don't see the need to buy 360 should you have a good PC. just buy a ps3 since most of the games are release as multi-platform. For exclusives, i believe the ps3 lineup (Resistance 2, Little Big Planet, Kill Zone 2, FF13, MGS4, GT5 to name a few) is far more better than 360 upcoming lineups.
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QUOTE(ravemaster @ May 23 2008, 10:24 AM)
get a ps3 guys smile.gif most of the best games in xbox360 like gears of war, fable, bioshock & mass effect has all been or will be released on PC as well.so i don't see the need to buy 360 should you have a good PC. just buy a ps3 since most of the games are release as multi-platform. For exclusives, i believe the ps3 lineup (Resistance 2, Little Big Planet, Kill Zone 2, FF13, MGS4, GT5 to name a few) is far more better than 360 upcoming lineups.
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For me, the reason to get a console is to eliminate the need to keep upgrading the PC. doh.gif
But u r quite right about the some exclusive titles in x360 though. GOW for example...is only 'time' exclusive. But then, u need a powerful PC to play it. And most of the time, when it came out, the console version is already GOW3? LOL

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For me, the reason to get a console is to eliminate the need to keep upgrading the PC. doh.gif
But u r quite right about the some exclusive titles in x360 though. GOW for example...is only 'time' exclusive. But then, u need a powerful PC to play it. And most of the time, when it came out, the console version is already GOW3? LOL
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GOW for the PC though release later but is superior compared to X360. The reason behind it is that PC monitor are able to display images higher than FULL HD thus makes it sharper. You won't need to upgrade your PC for GOW2 as if your PC can run GOW1, it should be able to run GOW2 just fine thumbup.gif Remember X360 hardware are fixed. Microsoft cannot push too hard on GOW2 or else the console will suffer from framerate problem.
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QUOTE(Thrust @ May 25 2008, 09:13 AM)
GOW for the PC though release later but is superior compared to X360. The reason behind it is that PC monitor are able to display images higher than FULL HD thus makes it sharper. You won't need to upgrade your PC for GOW2 as if your PC can run GOW1, it should be able to run GOW2 just fine  thumbup.gif Remember X360 hardware are fixed. Microsoft cannot push too hard on GOW2 or else the console will suffer from framerate problem.
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The "later" is quite long for more than 1 year. smile.gif Anyway i like the way of market tactic plan by Microsoft, i got few pc user members who dun have console but already decide to buy the Jasper xbox360+GOW2 after they play the GOW at PC, they choice not to wait for another 1 year. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Thrust @ May 25 2008, 09:13 AM)
GOW for the PC though release later but is superior compared to X360. The reason behind it is that PC monitor are able to display images higher than FULL HD thus makes it sharper. You won't need to upgrade your PC for GOW2 as if your PC can run GOW1, it should be able to run GOW2 just fine  thumbup.gif Remember X360 hardware are fixed. Microsoft cannot push too hard on GOW2 or else the console will suffer from framerate problem.
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Of course the graphics is superior but the cost of such a PC is greater too doh.gif One of the 'advantage' of console is longer gaming lifespan because the hardware is fixed and programmer just code what is best/optimum for the hardware. That's y u don't need to upgrade much from time to time.

I won't comment on the GOW2 because it's not even released in xbox360 yet. Even if it is runnable in a GOW1-able PC, it still doesn't guarantee it will run GOW3 lol. Example is COD3 and COD4....u know both have quite different requirement (although they are not exclusive titles)

BTW, let's don't bring this thread to console vs PC lol.

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They think that all ppl live at the earth should have a pc which can play GOW and Mass Effect at Full/Max detail on graphic and higher resolution. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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I made a mistake up there. COD3 is indeed a console exclusive! doh.gif

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ May 23 2008, 02:18 PM)
For me, the reason to get a console is to eliminate the need to keep upgrading the PC. doh.gif
But u r quite right about the some exclusive titles in x360 though. GOW for example...is only 'time' exclusive. But then, u need a powerful PC to play it. And most of the time, when it came out, the console version is already GOW3? LOL
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I guess if you love Jap influenced games, then PS3 is the obvious choice..
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I guess if you love Jap influenced games, then PS3 is the obvious choice..
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hehe about pc and console.. yeah i do agree some game from console do go to the pc... but then..... how long do i have to wait for it to release to the pc.. and plus.. when buying a pc game i need to see the requirement damm if my pc bellow the required spec them im gonna be sad... but now do not worry bout all that stuff.... hehe can play all the game that is made for that console straight... no more frustration....
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Ill vote for Xbox360 because of its game quality and ofcourse the console system is good than ps3.


Added on May 27, 2008, 3:22 amIll vote for Xbox360 because of its game quality and ofcourse the console system is good than ps3.

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damn..for a console super newbie like me, reading this thread still doesnt help me decide which to buy..xbox 360 or a ps3

for me, the xbox 360 has some great exclusive title shooting games i.e gears of war but then again the ps3 doubles as a blu ray player as well...

woah, i still cant decide. Anyone mind chiming in with some advice?
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faridz7... hehehe hard ar to choose.... btw do u tend to get the 3rd party controller for added gaming experience? let say u are getting g25 or equivalent controller, or cheap guitar controller etc...if so i would recommend u the ps3 since it have large support for 3rd party and 360 u have to get ms or what is bundled with the game...

think about ur budget for games as well... since price of ps3 is a bit higher if compare to 360 games... but ps3 do offer free online which 360 u have to pay monthly.

360 have the rrod problem which even with the current new falcon chipset, still that doesnt mean its save from the rrod, but ps3 also have their lens problem but to compare with rrod i do prefer t have the lens problem hehe..

the most important thing to check is ............ what game are u looking forward to play... look at the listing of both console and see which havete most that u would want then make ur deceision.... if still cant make any then the only option for u is get both la.. hehehe
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thanks mambo for the help

hm 3rd party controller? haha ive no idea what a g25 is..i am afterall a super duper newbie when it comes to consoles. This will be my first console ever but ive played on both the ps3 and xbox though.

im a shoot-em-up type of gamer so the titles im looking forward to play are mainly shooting games..gears of war, call of duty, rainbow six and less on the rpgs, grand theft autos and metal gear solid so my mates tell me to get the xbox in that case but some of them say i should get the ps3 as these titles (besides gears of war) will soon be available on the ps3

and with the ps3, theres the blu ray player as well which since the blu ray has won the HD war..so thats the enticing part bout the ps3

and then with the xbox 360 i know ill be facing that red ring problem which im not looking forward to..sigh choices

Oh also, ill be playing on a hd computer monitor rather than a hd tv and the monitor ill be getting is this: DellTM SP2208WFP 22" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor With Webcam link here:

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...dhs1&l=en&s=dhs

That choice of monitor good enough or are there better ones out there for that value?

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most importantly ask ur self what game do u want to play 1st then decide on the console. about the bluray player , dont sweat about it. just think about the games 1st. about the dell i think its good enough. i think ur leaning more towards xbox360 from ur post. so i suggest go get the xb360. its a great machine to hv even with the ROD problem honestly.
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both are nice console

buy both and live happily

but IMO ps3 has more untapped potential

im sure in the future its gonna be one awesome console
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I own Xbox360. Been let down because kena 3ROD 3 times less than 2 months
3ROD could be solve by approximate RM100+ each time (God knows how frequent this could happen)
-Better game library for shot'em up games you prefer.


PS3 is a good buy with current price tag.
Lens problem could be solve by approximate RM300 each times (usage of few month to a year).


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Lens problem could be solve by approximate RM300 each times (usage of few month to a year).
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Ur statement here very misleading, ps3 lens problem is very rare, and u r saying each lens has a lifeline for few mths to a year. Currently i have 10++ friends owing ps3 and none of them having this lens issue. And i dun think even u change the lens, it will go broken in few mths to a year time.
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as i overseas and back, region lock is important for me, so ps3 gets my vote
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QUOTE(kyle9 @ Jun 2 2008, 04:27 PM)
Ur statement here very misleading, ps3 lens problem is very rare, and u r saying each lens has a lifeline for few mths to a year. Currently i have 10++ friends owing ps3 and none of them having this lens issue. And i dun think even u change the lens, it will go broken in few mths to a year time.
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dude, from batch to batch, nowadays BD lens failure rate is higher than Falcon XB360 hit by 3RRoD. sweat.gif
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dude, from batch to batch, nowadays BD lens failure rate is higher than Falcon XB360 hit by 3RRoD. sweat.gif
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BD lens failure rate mostly exist on 80gb console. The newest 40gb are perfectly fine.
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BD Lens durability depends very much on individual usage apart from luck. I know few person BD lens knock out after 3-4 months. Well, speculate due to heavy M'sia made DVD movies usage apart from gaming doh.gif .

PS3 do not have high percentage of hardware failure apart from numbers of BD lens failure issue.

Xbox360 do not have high percentage of lens failure apart from 3ROD (chipset failure).





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whenever i read this kind of thread i bring along my popcorn,
wan to see budak kipas have to say bout their beloved console laugh.gif laugh.gif
Pls ignore me ...and thread like this make me laugh laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jun 3 2008, 01:42 AM)
whenever i read this kind of thread i bring along my popcorn,
wan to see budak kipas have to say bout their beloved console laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Pls ignore me ...and thread like this make me laugh laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hackinz @ Jun 3 2008, 12:14 AM)
BD Lens durability depends very much on individual usage apart from luck. I know few person BD lens knock out after 3-4 months. Well, speculate due to heavy M'sia made DVD movies usage apart from gaming doh.gif .

PS3 do not have high percentage of hardware failure apart from numbers of BD lens failure issue.

Xbox360 do not have high percentage of lens failure apart from 3ROD (chipset failure).
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I'm pointing the fact.....

the BD lens failure due to manufacture or you can say as supplier problem, Usually the failure are not caused by user abuse.

Think about it, Will sony ever launch a weak product "intentionally"? I don't think so.

IMO when ppl talking about "heavy-usage" that caused failure is a uber bull-dung fact. This kinda problem should not happened in modern product. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 4 2008, 07:28 AM)
I'm pointing the fact.....

the BD lens failure due to manufacture or you can say as supplier problem, Usually the failure are not caused by user abuse.

Think about it, Will sony ever launch a weak product "intentionally"? I don't think so.

IMO when ppl talking about "heavy-usage" that caused failure is a uber bull-dung fact. This kinda problem should not happened in modern product. shakehead.gif
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this 'uber product' you said, does it include the ability to bend motherboards?
anybody here bought a new PS3 because the lens failed?

Lens is a wear and tear part, something like a tire. The more usage, the faster it wears out. I have a PS1, dies lense after 4 years of fun, replaced my ps2 leans a year ago. But, the mobo never bends, or nothing melted on it.

Granted, Sony has issues with lens, that is a fact. And how is the ratio of PS3s failing because of this?

But a bending mother board does not reflect a 'modern product status.

At least get your facts straight buddy. It makes the argument more interesting.

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 4 2008, 04:09 PM)
this 'uber product' you said, does it include the ability to bend motherboards?
anybody here bought a new PS3 because the lens failed?

Lens is a wear and tear part, something like a tire. The more usage, the faster it wears out. I have a PS1, dies lense after 4 years of fun, replaced my ps2 leans a year ago. But, the mobo never bends, or nothing melted on it.

Granted, Sony has issues with lens, that is a fact. And how is the ratio of PS3s failing because of this?

But a bending mother board does not reflect a 'modern product status.

At least get your facts straight buddy. It makes the argument more interesting.
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If an design would permit a motherboard "that cannot be bent" to bent on normal usage, that product itself is a failed design. be it mordern or not. You get that? hmm.gif

Remember that a failed lens and 360's 3RRoD's problem is not as simple as "bending a board":x

Here? users over here represent how many percent of total users? users over here might be lucky enough to have small percentage, or unlucky enough to get a large percentage of failed lens. You may in turn seek advice from repairer or retailer for the lens problem. They sure will give you definate answer.

Finally, I do not wanna offend you but is my fact skewed or some fanatic mindset make you felt so?

I'm still a PS3 fans, I brought 360 just to play game, not to become M$ or Sony PR officer. I'm pretty sure I get my fact right from the retailer and user opinion as a source.
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well I tried googling around and I can't find a lot of news article that reports a high blu ray drive error rate, as opposed to 360 failure rates. At worst case, we just need to replace the BD drive, as opposed to the motherboard itself for a 360? True or false?

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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 5 2008, 10:00 AM)
If an design would permit a motherboard "that cannot be bent" to bent on normal usage, that product itself is a failed design. be it mordern or not. You get that?  hmm.gif

and what do you think happened to 3 ROD machines? why remove the xclamps. Reseach your facts first.

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Remember that a failed lens and 360's 3RRoD's problem is not as simple as "bending a board":x

You really need to know what actually happens to 3RODs machines. nod.gif

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Here? users over here represent how many percent of total users? users over here might be lucky enough to have small percentage, or unlucky enough to get a large percentage of failed lens. You may in turn seek advice from repairer or retailer for the lens problem. They sure will give you definate answer.

Why are you asking me the numbers? It was you who presented the so called facts. Luck had a small take on the issue, but still technology design prevails. I dont need to seek advise from kampung retailers or repairer, I have a friend that can do both , xclamps and PS3 lens replacements. And we can read the facts from the net, even here in 360' section you can see the thread, top thread too, in V2.
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Finally, I do not wanna offend you but is my fact skewed or some fanatic mindset make you felt so?

you have not presented any FACTs. Do you know what is the meaning of the word FACT? you need to show EVIDENCE first. Oklah, simple. Since you are so fixated with other people's view, You go and ask Djinn or Bernard, which console they repair most?

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I'm still a PS3 fans, I brought 360 just to play game, not to become M$ or Sony PR officer. I'm pretty sure I get my fact right from the retailer and user opinion as a source.
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i am not a PS3 fan, I am a Metal Gear Solid fan. You need to browse through the forum AT LEAST to give us the facts' on those 'unlucky' users. If you get your facts from Sg Wang Ah peks or some random Joe in the forum , sorry, those are not reliable resources. Those are dumb promotional shite, in other word, they were giving you the marketing drive. Cherio.


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QUOTE(slickz @ Jun 5 2008, 10:12 AM)
well I tried googling around and I can't find a lot of news article that reports a high blu ray drive error rate, as opposed to 360 failure rates. At worst case, we just need to replace the BD drive, as opposed to the motherboard itself for a 360? True or false?
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For BD, you only need to replace the lens.
From my reading, if a 360 laser fails, you need to replace the whole drive.

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 5 2008, 10:51 AM)
and what do you think happened to 3 ROD machines? why remove the xclamps. Reseach your facts first.
You really need to know what actually happens to 3RODs machines. nod.gif

Why are you asking me the numbers? It was you who presented the so called facts. Luck had a small take on the issue, but still technology design prevails. I dont need to seek advise from kampung retailers or repairer, I have a friend that can do both , xclamps and PS3 lens replacements. And we can read the facts from the net, even here in 360' section you can see the thread, top thread too, in V2.


you have not presented any FACTs. Do you know what is the meaning of the word FACT? you need to show EVIDENCE first. Oklah, simple. Since you are so fixated with other people's view, You go and ask Djinn or Bernard, which console they repair most?
cmon. just admit you dislike xbox360. it's not so hard. it's not hard to find out from your quote that everything you attacked is just to xbox and not PS3 and from that it's also not hard for you to be crown a "PS3 fanatic" title. read what you've written on lour last post, last line. Please give also the cost, the waiting time for a similar repair on both consoles since you're full of facts in your mind. or you can also say u just wanna wash me out.

yeah i do not know cause of the 3RRoD. Please educate me. I'm all bluffing on previous post.

And yes, I do not research my facts on THIS FORUM ONLY. So why bother ask only Djinn & Bernard (P.S. Sorry big bosses, I'm not insulting or defaming both of you)

I'm not asking you the number, I wanna point out how'd you sure that all the statistic given from here represents the whole.

Thanks for pointing me out, I don't even know that FACT COMES WITH PROOF. There's proof out there. You didn't pay me to dig it out for you. that's another FACT that no need evidence and since hate someone use the word FACT without showing EVIDENCE, I'll now have to ask you what's the alternative word to use just to please your clogging mind?? Howabout "Bluffing"?icon_question.gif

From both sides of failure rate from start, it is xbox360 that having high failure rate. No one deny that, it's just you that refused to accept the fact that PS3 is also far from perfect.

Since you can go so harsh just to defend your god machine on a peaceful forum, there's no point for me to debate with you anymore, oh no, should say quarrel.

Remember, Public Forum is for you to use at your privilage, not for your convenience. Respect the others. You can always point out the mistake but not in such impolite manner. read before you post.

Don't think so???? Let your mom read what you've written doh.gif

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cmon. just admit you dislike xbox360. it's not so hard. it's not hard to find out from your quote that everything you attacked is just to xbox and not PS3 and from that it's also not hard for you to be crown a "PS3 fanatic" title. read what you've written on lour last post, last line. Please give also the cost, the waiting time for a similar repair on both consoles since you're full of facts in your mind. or you can also say u just wanna wash me out.

Good. I see you are a man (I presume too) that like to assume. I am a fan of games. Please, do read properly. and we are not talking about cost. Nothing is free in this world. Nobody is washing anybody. I am here to straight out the facts.

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yeah i do not know cause of the 3RRoD. Please educate me. I'm all bluffing on previous post.

Why should I educate you? First of all, you are talking about cause. I was talking about effects. Different things. Try to differentiate.

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And yes, I do not research my facts on THIS FORUM ONLY. So why bother ask only Djinn & Bernard (P.S. Sorry big bosses, I'm not insulting or defaming both of you)

Because you like to hear other people's opinion. Thats why. Since those two retailers are famous here, I kinda figured their comment would satisfy you.

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I'm not asking you the number, I wanna point out how'd you sure that all the statistic given from here represents the whole.

what statistics?

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Thanks for pointing me out, I don't even know that FACT COMES WITH PROOF. There's proof out there. You didn't pay me to dig it out for you.

Thats means you got nothing. Just some wild assumptions. Poeple challenge you to provide proof, so as a man with integrity, you should provide some. I guess your integrity can be bought.

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that's another FACT that no need evidence and since hate someone use the word FACT without showing EVIDENCE, I'll now have to ask you what's the alternative word to use just to please your clogging mind?? Howabout "Bluffing"?icon_question.gif 

sorry, the word I have for you now is "POYO"

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From both sides of failure rate from start, it is xbox360 that having high failure rate. No one deny that, it's just you that refused to accept the fact that PS3 is also far from perfect.

I guess you are really in dire need of reading lesson:
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Granted, Sony has issues with lens, that is a fact.

I posted above, you even quote it.

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Since you can go so harsh just to defend your god machine on a peaceful forum, there's no point for me to debate with you anymore, oh no, should say quarrel.

1. Harsh? Where did I hurt your little feeling?
2. Quarrel? You dont even know how to differentiate a quarrel and a debate.

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Sorry bub, respect is earned, not given.

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Don't think so???? Let your mom read what you've written doh.gif
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chill snipersnake. you know when people run out of facts to 'argue' or 'debate' they'll resort to personal attacks instead smile.gif

your points were valid an unbiased to neither console as you managed to point out both the shortcomings, but yet you're labeled as a fanboy.. oh well.
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Lets see which one kena give warning first.........
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no worries lads. I actually dont care about warnings nakata. I was banned twice. I dont care. I am still on warning 20% if you must know. For me, facts are facts. Playstation's lens are weak, proven from PS1's time (not Sony's actually, they outsourced it to Sanyo) X360 has design flaws, until you yourself experienced it yourself I believe. Those are facts. Deal with it. Warnings? Ptfft. Unlike majority of people here, I fear no warnings. tongue.gif

We gotta start looking at facts, not assumptions. Personally, it provides free lesson to the forum members, about the importance of integrity and accountability. Learn to think before typing.
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er...
correction

360 also had lense prob for ur information
i am 360 user
once u had white icon saying insert 360 games..
means ur lense is sying
how i know...

i had change my drive once
coz u cannot change the lense itself only
need to change to whole drive coz u need to whole address for the machine to read the data


so the fact is

ps3 - lens prob
360 - 3rod and lens prob


so after this gonna get ps3 for my self
cannot tahan the "perangai" of xbox 360 anymore

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 5 2008, 09:12 PM)
what took you so long? I was waiting for you.

Good. I see you are a man (I presume too) that like to assume. I am a fan of games. Please, do read properly. and we are not talking about cost. Nothing is free in this world. Nobody is washing anybody. I am here to straight out the facts.
Why should I educate you? First of all, you are talking about cause. I was talking about effects. Different things. Try to differentiate.
Because you like to hear other people's opinion. Thats why. Since those two retailers are famous here, I kinda figured their comment would satisfy you.
what statistics?
Thats means you got nothing. Just some wild assumptions. Poeple challenge you to provide proof, so as a man with integrity, you should provide some. I guess your integrity can be bought.
sorry, the word I have for you now is "POYO"
I guess you are really in dire need of reading lesson:

I posted above, you even quote it.
1. Harsh? Where did I hurt your little feeling?
2. Quarrel? You dont even know how to differentiate a quarrel and a debate.
Sorry bub, respect is earned, not given.
This is why I dont debate kids. They always run crying to their mommy.
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Wait? I'll let you wait longer. since you're jobless and I'm a busy man. cool2.gif

Yeah, you debate like politician in taiwanese parliament. thumbup.gif

At last, you admit there's a lens problem for PS3. this changed my mind a bit. thumbup.gif

The fact i wanna point is simple, both consoles are far from perfect. If this is not a fact, what is?

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[quote=navigator,Jun 6 2008, 07:49 AM]

Wait? I'll let you wait longer. since you're jobless and I'm a busy man. cool2.gif [/quote]

That means you have nothing on me. And personal attack is so 6 years old. This is no Putra Forum laugh.gif

[quote] Yeah, you debate like politician in taiwanese parliament. thumbup.gif [/quote]
says the man who lost the debate.

[quote] At last, you admit there's a lens problem for PS3. this changed my mind a bit. thumbup.gif [/quote]

if you have basic reading skills, you wouldn't have to change your mind in the first place.
[quote]The fact i wanna point is simple, both consoles are far from perfect.[quote]

This is agreed nod.gif

[quote] If this is not a fact, what is?
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[/quote]

The so called statistics, still waiting for it.

[quote=navigator,Jun 5 2008, 08:31 PM]

I'm not asking you the number, I wanna point out how'd you sure that all the statistic given from here represents the whole.

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Argument at this thread all about PS3 vs Xbox360 is ok, but please dun use any word with personal attack.
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Jun 6 2008, 12:24 AM)
er...
correction

360 also had lense prob for ur information
i am 360 user
once u had white icon saying insert 360 games..
means ur lense is sying
how i know...

i had change my drive once
coz u cannot change the lense itself only
need to change to whole drive coz u need to whole address for the machine to read the data


so the fact is

ps3 - lens prob
360 - 3rod and lens prob
so after this gonna get ps3 for my self
cannot tahan the "perangai" of xbox 360 anymore
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same here! I experienced the same thing with my ex-Xbox360. 3ROD-ed 3 times in one year (give up already) vmad.gif and also got lens problem (samsung drive) mad.gif . I think I want to give up console gaming for a while (currently on PSP and PC only). blush.gif
Oil price hike is one of the reasons... cry.gif
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im agree and most of the prevoius owner of 360 are fustrated with 3rod. I got 3rod a month ago and change to the improve falcon model which rarely get 3rod. I hope so.....The reason why i still buying a new machine is just a fact the multiplayer is more entertain than PS3 and i have more friends in it. No restriction over IP or region on multiplayer which PS3 own now.

Im not a fanboy since im also own a PS3...Just a fact i luve more on 360 unless PS3 came out with their improvement on games and multiplayer thingy...
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 6 2008, 08:36 AM)
That means you have nothing on me. And personal attack is so 6 years old. This is no Putra Forum laugh.gif
says the man who lost the debate.
if you have basic reading skills, you wouldn't have to change your mind in the first place.
The so called statistics, still waiting for it.
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I have nothing on you, but the way you said that i'm giving out pointless fact is indeed insulting me.

The man who thrown the chair win in most cases. So do you? Frankly I do not even want to start a fanboy debate.

I don't even have reading skill, yes, yet another insult. why don't you consider your expression problem? Did you mentioned the overheat problem and elaborate the lens problem properly.

You wait for that? I also wait yours. or you can just contact the authority & let us know. I'm not committed to YOU to get those info.

QUOTE(hairuLeZ @ Jun 6 2008, 10:35 AM)
im agree and most of the prevoius owner of 360 are fustrated with 3rod. I got 3rod a month ago and change to the improve falcon model which rarely get 3rod. I hope so.....The reason why i still buying a new machine is just a fact the multiplayer is more entertain than PS3 and i have more friends in it. No restriction over IP or region on multiplayer which PS3 own now.

Im not a fanboy since im also own a PS3...Just a fact i luve more on 360 unless PS3 came out with their improvement on games and multiplayer thingy...
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Well, I'm lucky enough, my 1st console IS the falcon and it's on since the 1st day I brought it to download demos & game vids. It's off only when I went outstation. It never crash except the dashboard stop responding for a while due to stupid maxis internet connection get cut-off.

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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 6 2008, 10:56 AM)
I have nothing on you, but the way you said that i'm giving out pointless fact is indeed insulting me.

What do you call claims without proof? Sorry, if your heart is too weak to take any valid comments that is merited on your proven traits of your skills, you'd better be off the Internets. This is the Internets, where only the strong survives.

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The man who thrown the chair win in most cases. So do you? Frankly I do not even want to start a fanboy debate.

What fanboy debate? We were discussing about each machines' let down, you claimed that you have statistics, and I asked for it, you failed to provide it. That preety much sums it all.

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I don't even have reading skill, yes, yet another insult. why don't you consider your expression problem? Did you mentioned the overheat problem and elaborate the lens problem properly.

Yes you indeed do not have reading skills , let me add to that, writing too. That is so obvious when you fail to see and understand what I have posted earlier.

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You wait for that? I also wait yours. or you can just contact the authority & let us know.

Your statistics. I didnt say I have any statistics. Nice one.

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Then I would call you a liar. A simple as that nod.gif
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It boils down to the willingness to buy original games, willingness to take risk with a console of 33% failure rate and the type of games you like to play.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 6 2008, 11:48 AM)
What do you call claims without proof? Sorry, if your heart is too weak to take any valid comments that is merited on your proven traits of your skills, you'd better be off the Internets. This is the Internets, where only the strong survives.
What fanboy debate? We were discussing about each machines' let down, you claimed that you have statistics, and I asked for it, you failed to provide it. That preety much sums it all.
Yes you indeed do not have reading skills , let me add to that, writing too. That is so obvious when you fail to see and understand what I have posted earlier.
Your statistics. I didnt say I have any statistics. Nice one.
Then I would call you a liar. A simple as that  nod.gif
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yeah. that's the reason you got banned twice. to prove yourself strong and harsh. You'll be shameful of your act one day. Live in your clan and don step outside, the world does not welcome a ppl that like to push others around.

You have a very good command in english. You know everything I wrote? Please elaborate if you really understand.

What's the result for your SPM, STPM or MUET engrish again? hmm.gif

Why whould I prove anything to a bad tempered like you? it make no sense to me.

Please, Copy the quote you mentioned that I have all the statistics for failed machine and it's come from my quote. The quote must be percise enough to say that I DO HAVE TO SHOW YOU THE STATS. Keep your mouth shut if you can't show it. And go check your Dict for the word Facts or in Malay, "Fakta". They do not come with any proof presented to you. used up your cash to buy PS3 and too poor for a dictionary?? Go check at Wikipedia for fast reference.

That's all for here, i hope i do not encounter a person like you in the future.


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It boils down to the willingness to buy original games, willingness to take risk with a console of 33% failure rate and the type of games you like to play.
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One more to add, a willingness to follow the tide.

One might be a fanboy of certain product and drown with it.

Sega megadrive, 3DO, Sega Saturn, N64, Dreamcast & so-on....... Theyr'e all RIP in a premature timeframe.

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One more to add, a willingness to follow the tide.


Follow the tide out to the ocean and drown?
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For those who say ps3 have alot of japanese type rpg, please list me some as now i think the ps3 fail me on that genre
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For those who say ps3 have alot of japanese type rpg, please list me some as now i think the ps3 fail me on that genre
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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 6 2008, 12:48 PM)
yeah. that's the reason you got banned twice. to prove yourself strong and harsh. You'll be shameful of your act one day. Live in your clan and don step outside, the world does not welcome a ppl that like to push others around.

Good. Assume more. I like that. I just love it when fellow debaters go haywire in the emo department.

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You have a very good command in english.

Thank you.

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You know everything I wrote? Please elaborate if you really understand.

In a one word summary, LIES.

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What's the result for your SPM, STPM or MUET engrish again? hmm.gif

During my time, they didnt have MUET yet..

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Why whould I prove anything to a bad tempered like you? it make no sense to me.

Because you have claimed something, and you fail to prove your claim. Bad temper? good assume more.

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Please, Copy the quote you mentioned that I have all the statistics for failed machine and it's come from my quote. The quote must be percise enough to say that I DO HAVE TO SHOW YOU THE STATS. Keep your mouth shut if you can't show it. And go check your Dict for the word Facts or in Malay, "Fakta". They do not come with any proof presented to you. used up your cash to buy PS3 and too poor for a dictionary?? Go check at Wikipedia for fast reference.

Ah, this is why I told you, you cant read or write. I showed you some many times, and the exact thing? How old do you think we are here? Please learn parapharasing. As below:

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And no need to insult me, unlike you pay EPF, I pay CPF. wink.gif I do hope, you understand that. And FAKTA, means truth. Truth means, you have something to back it up.
And speaking of wiki, here is a good read for you, I hope you can understand it nod.gif you are welcomed.
Here

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That's all for here, i hope i do not encounter a person like you in the future.
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Me too. I cant stand debating assumptions emotional tech aware wannabe. They sound so loud but inside, empty hollow. You got the Falcon right? Have you considered those unfortunate gamers that spent money before that mobo? They even support original gaming too. The effort and investment poured to one machine, gone just like that. See those couple of posts above? If 360 is the first console for you, then I personally think you cant comment much. Have you ever been hit with 3rods? No first hand experience? Do you know I even helped several guys here canceled their LiVe subscriptions because of this?Some of us here have been gaming during the cartridge days. Personally, if you dont know what you are talking about, dont post. People here are more interested in facts rather than theories and assumptions. And if you are losing a debate, making personal attacks is pathetic. wink.gif Theories and assumptions may work in a perfect world, but in THIS world, people needs facts wink.gif

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Good. Assume more. I like that.  I just love it when fellow debaters go haywire in the emo department.
Thank you.
In a one word summary, LIES.
During my time, they didnt have MUET yet..
Because you have claimed something, and you fail to prove your claim. Bad temper? good assume more.
Ah, this is why I told you, you cant read or write. I showed you some many times, and the exact thing? How old do you think we are here? Please learn parapharasing. As below:

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And no need to insult me, unlike you pay EPF, I pay CPF. wink.gif I do hope, you understand that. And FAKTA, means truth. Truth means, you have something to back it up.
And speaking of wiki, here is a good read for you, I hope you can understand it nod.gif you are welcomed.
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Me too. I cant stand debating assumptions emotional tech aware wannabe. They sound so loud but inside, empty hollow.  You got the Falcon right? Have you considered those unfortunate gamers that spent money before that mobo? They even support original gaming too. The effort and investment poured to one machine, gone just like that. See those couple of posts above? If 360 is the first console for you, then I personally think you cant comment much. Have you ever been hit with 3rods? No first hand experience? Do you know I even helped several guys here canceled their LiVe subscriptions because of this?Some of us here have been gaming during the cartridge days. Personally, if you dont know what you are talking about, dont post. People here are more interested in facts rather than theories and assumptions. And if you are losing a debate, making personal attacks is pathetic.  wink.gif Theories and assumptions may work in a perfect world, but in THIS world, people needs facts wink.gif
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You're a nerd, the thing you quote, in on top of this page. that's my so called stats.

You made more assumption than I do. So spare your blind bullet

Your another pointless attack, paying CPF so what? How much you earn per month is more important.

3RRoD? I knew it happened, Just not on me. I've used it by your POV, Abuse. and still standing.

You can't stand the tech wannabe, but you're acting like one now. Please, info on wiki? I've read it more than a hundred times before i really brought the machine.

My gaming age start from the time the G&W from nintendo is launch. Cartridge? How bout famicom and not the Super Famicom? You're sleeping if you blindly assume that my 1st console is the xbox360.

I just buy it for gaming, your rage on the xbox do not concern me.

I told you to read the wiki properly but you didn't, you definately not for here to learn. A fact is debateable. same goes to theory & assumption. Without theory & assumption, you're still using an axe to hunt nowadays.

Losing or not is not a point here. The reason I replied to you is just simple, Your expression is like xbox360 is soo bad that it will not be able to cure the 3RRoD curse forever and PS3 is purrfect and the lens & overheat problem is not even an issue, because it's SONY and M$ is like a company who spit junk. say me anything on this. Your statement to agree the PS3 is far from perfect does not reflect on your insulting words.

You're the one showing the flame, not me. Who's making personal attack here in the 1st place? Why should I do so in the 1st place?

Argue more and you might need to open a new account for this forum. icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 5 2008, 11:23 PM)
no worries lads. I actually dont care about warnings nakata. I was banned twice. I dont care. I am still on warning 20% if you must know. For me, facts are facts. Playstation's lens are weak, proven from PS1's time (not Sony's actually, they outsourced it to Sanyo) X360 has design flaws, until you yourself experienced it yourself I believe. Those are facts. Deal with it. Warnings? Ptfft. Unlike majority of people here, I fear no warnings. tongue.gif

We gotta start looking at facts, not assumptions. Personally, it provides free lesson to the forum members, about the importance of integrity and accountability. Learn to think before typing.
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Just before you feel all comfy with this heroic fanboy battle i have to chip in or another mob-rallying is in the making. Need i remind you that the reason of your previous banning were exactly the opposite of what you are preaching here - misleading fact, irrational post, threats and alot more. That's a fact.

You might not fear the warning or once swore to not enter lowyat.net ever again but i think the warning had serve its purpose. It's not meant to scare anyone, but merely a reminder for future posting guideline.

Need i add that, coming from someone who constantly bash the competiton console or games in irrelevant thread (so much of a game fan), the full credibility of yours is somewhat lacking. Facts or not, presenting it at the wrong place at the wrong time only shows one intention, pretending to be non-bias when the ultimate goal is to attack the competition is even worse.
A simple test in the past already proven that. A quick search on your profile is enough to justify the claim above. If you think the above accusation are false please do let me know & I will bring the evidence to the table when i am free because it's very time consuming, not gossip at the back and spread rumours.

In this case, stop using extreme sarcasm & insult to fuel the fanboy war.


@navigator, can you STOP insulting people or questioning people's employment? What has that GOT ANYTHING TO DO with consoles? Do you wish to join the rank of banning with your ongoing naive behaviour?
There's no point defending 3ROD, it's a design problem and everybody acknowledge that. It's Microsoft incompetence in quality control just to rush the next-gen consoles. Faulty issues exist on PS3 is NOT an excuse for 360 to have such a high failure rate!
You said his rage on xbox do not concern you then why the heck are you replying here at the first place?!?!


QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jun 5 2008, 10:56 PM)
Lets see which one kena give warning first.........
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Going by the book everyone joining in console wars are accountable for warning but after countless measure taken to prevent this (3 subforum etc), it cannot be stopped.
Therefore the existence of these thread, the central hub for all ultimate fanboys.



Just carry on and LEAVE the personal attack out of the "debate". Fanboy war are suppose to be entertaining, not hurting feelings or insulting. Fanboy CAN co-exist with each other, but when they take it to the extreme --- cursing others, defending & making excuse for their beloved platform. By far Nintendo fanboy is the most peaceful wherereas Sony & MS fanboy is the one causing troubles. shakehead.gif
In fighting monsterfanboy, you become one yourself. Have nobody learn ANYTHING from Gerald, if people honestly want fanboy thread to die they could've just ignore it instead of contributing more post. Is there no games on your <favourite platform> that you need to quarrel here everyday?
Of course, when shit happens they could have just blame the mod and not themselves.
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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 6 2008, 04:57 PM)
PS3 is purrfect and the lens & overheat problem is not even an issue
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1) Quoted for truth. PS3 got no overheating problem.

2) Lens problem is because of ppl using their PS3 to play ciplak DVD.

Still, navigator is a troll bait, fishing for flames. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(komputer @ Jun 6 2008, 03:13 PM)
Got Oblivion 3. I  playing it right now. Very open etc etc. Rated best RPG for the PS3 so far. So far not many J-RPG as developers waiting for Final Fantasy to come out.
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Fanboy war are suppose to be entertaining, not hurting feelings or insulting.
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i found their fighting rather entertaining tongue.gif

or you tarak popcorn,is it?
that why you pissed with them..? blush.gif

come come sit,i share *hands popcorn* thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 6 2008, 08:03 PM)
i found their fighting rather entertaining tongue.gif

or you tarak popcorn,is it?
that why you pissed with them..? blush.gif

come come sit,i share *hands popcorn* thumbup.gif
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If mod also join you sharing popcorn then.... wink.gif
Of course now it's entertaining to bystander, just like the gerald case. Feel macho, awesome, funny...
...but when everyone arguing until redfaced and couldn't take it anymore, what happen after that? Both of them are already insulting each other, that is not the right direction.

This "heated debate" need to stop, pronto.
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WheeeEEeeeEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.... TEBABOM!!! Prattatttatatatatat!! KEBABOM!! Fanboy down fanboy down! Medic mEdic!!! Oh my god he took that wall of text direct hit to the heart! Quick! hand me that PSM magazine! he needs to recuperate!
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jun 6 2008, 08:45 PM)
If mod also join you sharing popcorn then.... wink.gif
Of course now it's entertaining to bystander, just like the gerald case. Feel macho, awesome, funny...
...but when everyone arguing until redfaced and couldn't take it anymore, what happen after that? Both of them are already insulting each other, that is not the right direction.

This "heated debate" need to stop, pronto.
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well then,who do we blame?
we cant pin the finger on only 2 fellas tongue.gif
we all knew this crap would happen sooner or later,we've already told the TS to close the thread,but yet..here we are..still happily posting.

so who cares?
i dont tongue.gif

just munch them popcorn while they're still hot.
besides,right now no nice movie to watch sad.gif doh.gif
so this'll have to do. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(slickz @ Jun 6 2008, 08:58 PM)
WheeeEEeeeEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.... TEBABOM!!! Prattatttatatatatat!! KEBABOM!! Fanboy down fanboy down! Medic mEdic!!! Oh my god he took that wall of text direct hit to the heart! Quick! hand me that PSM magazine! he needs to recuperate!
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 6 2008, 09:13 PM)
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 6 2008, 09:12 PM)
well then,who do we blame?
we cant pin the finger on only 2 fellas tongue.gif
we all knew this crap would happen sooner or later,we've already told the TS to close the thread,but yet..here we are..still happily posting.

so who cares?
i dont tongue.gif

just munch them popcorn while they're still hot.
besides,right now no nice movie to watch sad.gif  doh.gif
so this'll have to do. biggrin.gif
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This is not the only console war thread. There are tons of it. We tried closing as many as we can, we even pinned an official thread before but it doesn't help anything. Thread like this just pop out everytime. Gamers Workout, ring a bell? People thought it's funny at first, feeding the troll. Look what has gotten to them. People only know when to stop when shit happens.

If people don't care they won't be here... wink.gif Of course it's not right to blame the 2 only but instead, everyone who contribute to this thread perhaps?
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Like i said earlier, almost everyone is accountable for a warning. However, that isn't gona solve anything. So it's best to let loose these thread to attract the fanboys, rational being won't be here looking for facts. Ignoring it is the best solution.

What's happening now is flame war. The one engage in heated battle now are they 2, the one throwing insult are them.
That's what need to stop now, LYN does not tolerate such act.


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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jun 6 2008, 09:59 PM)

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LOL!! I m the top now, i like argue but i never insult ppl and i never do personal attack.
Both console are not the best, the best is on the future. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Jun 6 2008, 06:00 PM)
@navigator, can you STOP insulting people or questioning people's employment? What has that GOT ANYTHING TO DO with consoles? Do you wish to join the rank of banning with your ongoing naive behaviour?
There's no point defending 3ROD, it's a design problem and everybody acknowledge that. It's Microsoft incompetence in quality control just to rush the next-gen consoles. Faulty issues exist on PS3 is NOT an excuse for 360 to have such a high failure rate!
You said his rage on xbox do not concern you then why the heck are you replying here at the first place?!?!


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QUOTE(komputer @ Jun 6 2008, 06:12 PM)
1) Quoted for truth. PS3 got no overheating problem.

2) Lens problem is because of ppl using their PS3 to play ciplak DVD.

Still, navigator is a troll bait, fishing for flames.  hmm.gif
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1) Just for your info, early batch of PS3 do suffer from overheating problem. You may look at the similar report on google. I'm not sure they're still there thou as they only happened on very 1st batch.

2) Lens problem occur worldwide, not only in a full-of-pirate-DVD country.....I mentioned it before SniperSnake come into scene.

But yet, the total occurance is kept below 10%.....much better than record holding xbox360. doh.gif
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stop replying bout other console laaa navi
people know how to google it by himslef
no point u telling the ps3 had overheating/lense issue
since it was rare case

not like our 360
ms also announced how m any billion for 3rod warranty...
let this thear be the most peace thread among player from diff brand laaa
not another war thread..

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LOL, the title should change to PS3 and Xbox360 love each other.
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For this threads info, I'm getting a 360 with my bonus. laugh.gif
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i own both system. Each has its own pro and cons. Graphic wise for Call Of Duty 4, 360 wins by hundreds of miles (read better). As of reliability, my 360, with only a few months old already cant read my (ehem) games, and requires reload couple of times. I only play 360 once in a while.. but my ps3 online, almost every other night. kekekeke.. ps3 runs quietly and confidently whilst 360 is noisy and warm and doubtful in reliability especially with the famous 3 ROD.

360 OS & interfacing are just craptastic. Instead, ps3 interface are miles better than 360. trust me. wifi, rechargeable lithium ion controller. bluray player, media centre with nice bluetooth remote (bought separately), im inclined towards ps3.

Controller 360 is best for FPS games...very comfortable.. whilst dualshock3 is not so friendly after couple of hours with COD4.

If i were u, i'd buy only very limited games i really like and enjoy it 101%.. so..without doubt, its PS3, my console of preference.

oh yes.. the FREE ONLINE THINGY IS HAVEN. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(MusashiX @ Jun 7 2008, 10:01 PM)

If i were u, i'd buy only very limited games i really like and enjoy it 101%.. so..without doubt, its PS3, my console of preference.
oh yes.. the FREE ONLINE THINGY IS HAVEN. rclxm9.gif
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Bro, i quote my own post, i think this is funny. Hope i can be the right xbox360 fansboy. Peace!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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Just kidding!!!!
A said: PS3 no need to pay fee for online/PSN, but Xbox360 have to pay it.
B said: But XBox360 game is cheaper than PS3 game.
A said: Only cheaper around rm40 lah, if buy xbox360 u have to pay rm140~160 for Xbox Live for 1 year.
B said: But if i buy PS3, then 1 year i cannot buy more than 4 games loh.
A said: Why cannot buy more than 4 games?
B said: Bcoz i buy more than 4 games, mean i already pay another fee for Xbox Live loh.
A said: ........................................


Hokkian ppl said"LPPL".


Xbox360 have nothing to compare with PS3, PS3 have design nice, hardware powerful, no hardware failure, got many good game coming soon, PSN is free, got blu-ray, can support up to 1080p HD, ps3 runs quietly and confidently, ps3 system interface are nice, so i decide buy Xbox360. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Hope u guys enjoy it, dun forget ur popcorn or snack. Console Wars : PS3 vs Xbox360= nice thread. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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lol, nakata, that conversation actually can continue if they mention 3ROD.

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I think PS3 is the best because have no heat issue

which every 360 user had to kena 1 time

and PS3 looks better and no issue and the game , although 360 had more games than the PS3 but takkan u will buy all the game to play laugh.gif maximim i'll think , thhe game u played only 10~20 unless

but dont forget some xbox 360 games slowy shift to PS3 soon and more and more games coming out !!!

and yet if u thinking bout getting ahem games then i dunno wat to say la coz 360 can buy ahem games

anyway planing to get a PS3 soon biggrin.gif PS3 rules
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QUOTE(Ickythump @ Jun 8 2008, 05:44 AM)
I think PS3 is the best because have no heat issue

which every 360 user had to kena 1 time

and PS3 looks better and no issue  and the game , although 360 had more games than the PS3 but takkan u will buy all the game to play laugh.gif maximim i'll think , thhe game u played only 10~20 unless

but dont forget some xbox 360 games slowy shift to PS3 soon and more and more games coming out !!!

and yet if u thinking bout getting ahem games then i dunno wat to say la coz 360 can buy ahem games

anyway planing to get a PS3 soon biggrin.gif PS3 rules
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Buy Xbox360 lah..... adui.... who said every 360 user sure kena heat issue, where is the proof... our big bro Si9perulat said everything need proof ma..... give us proof lah, adui.... cannot simply easy lembut said like that ma.... oi... oi.... who said PS3 dun have issue, aduiiiiiiiii, give us proof lah..... Apa Xbox360 game slowy shift to PS3, morning or midnight shift???? Gear of War and Halo ade shift or not? Dun like that lah, we said slowly slowy also need proof lah.
Dun like that lah, bro.... PS3 tak lama lagi also can erhem games, sry sry.. this one i dun have proof pula....
Aiya... u still planing get PS3??? Dun like that lah, thats no PS3 rules, thats only got Pak Lah rules in Malaysia, he can increase the petrol price anytime he want lah.....

Hehe, i got Xbox360 fansboy achievement now. Peace. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Last time I saw comparison video of certain games (not sure, I think assassin's creed and call of duty 4) between Xbox360 and PS3, it seems that Xbox360 is better, smoother. erm, will be getting both console though smile.gif

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from my experience with ps1, ps2, dreamcast, 360 - using counterfeit cd/dvd make your lense more prone to early failure, because of low quality surface on the ROMs making it harder for lense to read data.

However, if u would like to try as many games, look for (ehem) CHEAPEST POSSIBLE OPTION. U know the answer.

If u want to enjoy specific games of interest online and enjoy hi-def to the max, u know u cud rely on ...

(and uhh.. why GETTING both consoles when you can GET IN NOW, at the present moment tongue.gif )

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For long term usage..PS3 is the one to choose. smile.gif

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(and uhh.. why GETTING both consoles when you can GET IN NOW, at the present moment  tongue.gif )
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jun 8 2008, 06:34 AM)
Buy Xbox360 lah..... adui....  who said every 360 user sure kena heat issue, where is the proof...  our big bro Si9perulat said everything need proof ma.....  give us proof lah, adui.... cannot simply easy lembut said like that ma....  oi... oi.... who said PS3 dun have issue, aduiiiiiiiii, give us proof lah.....  Apa Xbox360 game slowy shift to PS3, morning or midnight shift????  Gear of War and Halo ade shift or not? Dun like that lah, we said slowly slowy also need proof lah.
Dun like that lah, bro.... PS3 tak lama lagi also can erhem games, sry sry.. this one i dun have proof pula.... 
Aiya... u still planing get PS3??? Dun like that lah, thats no PS3 rules, thats only got Pak Lah rules in Malaysia, he can increase the petrol price anytime he want lah.....

Hehe, i got Xbox360 fansboy achievement now. Peace.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hey there Xbox360 fanboy , im sure what i trying to classified here...

Proof ? Look at your 360 Section la... theres even a thread dedicated to the 3ROD issue !!! that's proof man !!!

laugh.gif Whats the PS3 issue tell me !!! the thing is there none of them , only cant play *ahem* games i think that's the biggest issue for you lah

shift ? look at GoW lah can be played on PC now.. many games slowy move to other console , maybe it's not now coz u wont know anything...

future bro look at the brightside of the future !!! laugh.gif

in addition PS3 can be played online for free and those original game u can enjoy them online if u had completed the single player mode.

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QUOTE(Ickythump @ Jun 8 2008, 02:59 PM)
Hey there Xbox360 fanboy , im sure what i trying to classified here...

Proof ? Look at your 360 Section la... theres even a thread dedicated to the 3ROD issue !!! that's proof man !!!

laugh.gif Whats the PS3 issue tell me !!! the thing is there none of them , only cant play *ahem* games i think that's the biggest issue for you lah

shift ? look at GoW lah can be played on PC now.. many games slowy move to other console , maybe it's not now coz u wont know anything...

future bro look at the brightside of the future !!! Alah who needs a Halo ? its only for those Americans retards play this game AFAIK for u guys it's malaysian retards  laugh.gif

in addition PS3 can be played online for free and those original game u can enjoy them online if u had completed the single player mode.
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Even if you said there is no issues/problems regarding ps3, I firmly believe nothing is perfect. Cant play p*****d games is not an issue. But it is true that 360 has a lot of problems compared to ps3. ps3 have minor problems, most of it fixed by firmware update. on the other side, I think your choice of words seem insulting (to whom it concern)

I'm not with 360 side, neither ps3 side. The reason I would but a console is according to games that I want to play. Some of games are console exclusive. I want to play FFX; bought PS2, want to play FFCC; bought PSP, want to play Tales of Vesperia, (console exclusive if not mistaken, not out yet) will buy 360, want to play FF13, will buy PS3. After playing those games, consoles will be left to dust until interesting game(s) come up. Not my psp though, using it to read novel, listen to music etc. rolleyes.gif

Anyway... I'm looking forward for Jasper 360 (the one with 65nm CPU and GPU). will be out in August this year. 65nm CPU on Falcon 360 reduce the risk of getting RROD. Let see how the new model fares. biggrin.gif

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This thread rclxlh.gif

Both console have their strength and weakness. Xbox360 - 3rod, yes previous. Now got falcon chip which improved design and next is Jasper which being said that will remove the 3rod issue.

Sony is weak on lens. Even from PS1. And yet, sure they will improve it.

Most new game are available at console first b4 shifting to PC..say some of them near 1 year available for PC. So for PC user, hardware limitation and console there are no limitation for game developed for it.

And again this thread is rclxlh.gif for those of u who not reading and searh the info well..
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QUOTE(tidus2k @ Jun 8 2008, 03:35 PM)
Even if you said there is no issues/problems regarding ps3, I firmly believe nothing is perfect. Cant play p*****d games is not an issue. But it is true that 360 has a lot of problems compared to ps3. ps3 have minor problems, most of it fixed by firmware update. on the other side, I think your choice of words seem insulting (to whom it concern)

I'm not with 360 side, neither ps3 side. The reason I would but a console is according to games that I want to play. Some of games are console exclusive. I want to play FFX; bought PS2, want to play FFCC; bought PSP, want to play Tales of Vesperia, (console exclusive if not mistaken, not out yet) will buy 360, want to play FF13, will buy PS3. After playing those games, consoles will be left to dust until interesting game(s) come up. Not my psp though, using it to read novel, listen to music etc.  rolleyes.gif

Anyway... I'm looking forward for Jasper 360 (the one with 65nm CPU and GPU). will be out in August this year. 65nm CPU on Falcon 360 reduce the risk of getting RROD. Let see how the new model fares.  biggrin.gif
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If u do notice , im not trying to insult anyone biggrin.gif but i just reply to that person who reply on my first comment...

and I know that there's nothing perfect here but PS3>360 That's for sure and that's all the thing that this thread trying to compare.

*and im sorry if u felt insulted*
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future bro look at the brightside of the future !!! Alah who needs a Halo ? its only for those Americans retards play this game AFAIK for u guys it's malaysian retards  laugh.gif
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there's no need to use that kinda language
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 8 2008, 03:58 PM)
there's no need to use that kinda language
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just play what console u loved.no need criticize for something u hate.whoever win we lose.wakaka
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all xbox360 users knows bout their console which is ps3 fanboy didnt know...how 360 gamers enjoyed great titles for their console...plus most 360 now days last for 2 yrs and even 3 yrs without any probs..

i didnt see any great bout ps3 games....just some of the games kindda hot....but rare...360 lots of hot titles...and lots of hardware improvements...falcon till valhalla.....plus the best console of 2007 and might be 2008...and there is coming up titles which is can say taataa to ps3...and yet 360 console of the year 2008.......sorry to say that.

360 comunnity around kl are hawt....there`s lot of tournament , gath etc. ( mostly by GamersHideout )...and its cool..

so ps3 can sleep now...uuuwaaaarrrGGgggHhh !
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QUOTE(Ickythump @ Jun 8 2008, 03:57 PM)
If u do notice , im not trying to insult anyone  biggrin.gif  but i just reply to that person who reply on my first comment...

and I know that there's nothing perfect here but PS3>360 That's for sure and that's all the thing that this thread trying to compare.

*and im sorry if u felt insulted*
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I'm not feel insulted since i know that you're not pointing it at me, therefore there's no need for apologize. As mgsrulz said, there's no need for such language. However I'm glad that you regret it. Peace smile.gif

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bilala malaysia nak buat console sendiri.mesti kena kutuk giler-giler.
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bilala malaysia nak buat console sendiri.mesti kena kutuk giler-giler.
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QUOTE(Ickythump @ Jun 8 2008, 03:57 PM)
If u do notice , im not trying to insult anyone  biggrin.gif  but i just reply to that person who reply on my first comment...

and I know that there's nothing perfect here but PS3>360 That's for sure and that's all the thing that this thread trying to compare.

*and im sorry if u felt insulted*
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Dun be so serious lah.... LOL, i think u should read all other early post which i post b4, i reply ur post just for fun only lah..... since got many ppl here feel this thread is funny and good for enjoy with popcorn. laugh.gif Anyway, do i said any bad thing to u b4??? If yes, then sry lah bro..... ok lah... PS3 is the best loh, the king of console lah, ok ??? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Ya you play no serious i play wif u just simple as that...

why others say out post sooo offended like im point on ur back...

yaya can close this thread now PS3 is FTW!!!
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No matter how great does X360 do with the exclusive titles, It still sucks to me.

Forget about the popular 3ROD problem (which actually striked 2 friends of mine), there's another issue i didn't mention:
I've mentioned in this thread b4 bout my Japanese friend who tried to persuade me to get X360 instead of PS3 before. that friend of mine actually got his GOW disc scratched by the machine! Thank god, he got a replacement copy after he complain to Microsoft's customer service. and another friend of mine who got striked by 3ROD twice and DVD reading failure (caused by the lens, no pirated disc used b4) which needed to replace the whole DVD-ROM but again, thank god it is Japan and under official warranty.

so if says X360 has stable lens might need to keep the voice a lil bit down... shhhh



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I think PS3 is the best because have no heat issue
which every 360 user had to kena 1 time

Every 360 user had it???? Please give us proof lah, refer the xbox360 thread?? OMYGOD, u only know refer the Malaysia Lowyat thread??? Where is other country xbox360 user??? R they everyone also kena??? They all report to u??? HOw  u know, is everyone?? Give us proof lah.

and PS3 looks better and no issue  and the game , although 360 had more games than the PS3 but takkan u will buy all the game to play laugh.gif maximim i'll think , thhe game u played only 10~20 unless

Everyone can said all the same thing, WII also got many game, PS3 also got alot again, but takkan u want buy all the game to play??? Sure have to buy the game u want only lah, u think all the xbox360 user will buy all the game too???

but dont forget some xbox 360 games slowy shift to PS3 soon and more and more games coming out !!!

What game slowly shift to PS3????  Did u know also got PS3 game also shift to Xbox360, but not all is slow one, shift at the same time also got.

and yet if u thinking bout getting ahem games then i dunno wat to say la coz 360 can buy ahem games
U know to refer the xbox360 about the heat issue, why not refer again at Xbox360 got alot ppl there but xbox360 not bcoz it got ahem game.  doh.gif

anyway planing to get a PS3 soon biggrin.gif PS3 rules
Go buy it lah, no one use gun force u buy one, ur own money u buy PS4 also can lah.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Ickythump @ Jun 8 2008, 07:25 PM)
Ya you play no serious i play wif u just simple as that...

why others say out post sooo offended like im point on ur back...

yaya can close this thread now PS3 is FTW!!!
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OK, i pay u back with the serious without any insult.


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No matter how great does X360 do with the exclusive titles, It still sucks to me.

Forget about the popular 3ROD problem (which actually striked 2 friends of mine), there's another issue i didn't mention:
I've mentioned in this thread b4 bout my Japanese friend who tried to persuade me to get X360 instead of PS3 before. that friend of mine actually got his GOW disc scratched by the machine! Thank god, he got a replacement copy after he complain to Microsoft's customer service. and another friend of mine who got striked by 3ROD twice and DVD reading failure (caused by the lens, no pirated disc used b4) which needed to replace the whole DVD-ROM but again, thank god it is Japan and under official warranty.

so if says X360 has stable lens  might need to keep the voice a lil bit down... shhhh
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This is suck or not suck, thats u n ur friend problem. If u like it then accept it, if u hate it then stop it. Very easy.

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this is more like a kids forum
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Ya, this thread also got alot of ghost, u can refer the POLL.
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Ah....after me and the snake, now there's others come in to action...

AS I said, in terms of quality, both are far from perfect. IMO the console with best quality & reliability is the Wii.

Please all, PS3 also suffer from overheating problem. Until now the overheating prototype & 1st batch machine still seacrheable in google.

xb360 scratch disc is also famous till there's TV show documentng it.

But both machine's occurance rate is much much lower to the previous generation.

Guys, be rationale. I've learned my lesson with the SniperSnake.

Can mods just close this flaming thread?
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jun 8 2008, 11:19 PM)
OK, i pay u back with the serious without any insult.


Added on June 8, 2008, 11:25 pm
This is suck or not suck, thats u n ur friend problem. If  u like it then accept it, if u hate it then stop it. Very easy.
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I thought this is the thread for us to express how we thought about console.

Only positive opinion accepted, huh?

Great! one step closer to Bolehland Nation ideal.

Only speak something nice to hear, we can never question about our government's failure! Gee!

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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Jun 8 2008, 11:29 PM)
this is more like a kids forum
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lowyat.net was actually an adult forum? shocking.gif
all this time i thought it had always been a kid's forum
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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Jun 9 2008, 02:43 AM)
I thought this is the thread for us to express how we thought about console.

Only positive opinion accepted, huh?

Great! one step closer to Bolehland Nation ideal.

Only speak something nice to hear, we can never question about our government's failure! Gee!
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OK, sry.... if u said about government's failure, then me sure support u one. So how is ur xbox360 now?

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Games should be the main reason for you to decide on the console. If you like more games on a particular console then just get those machines.

Nowadays there much more visibility on the games upcoming on WHICH platform (80%-90% will be on both) and some exclusives.

If you're also the movie watching type, then perhaps Blu-Ray is the only choice now, I used to watch HD-DVDs and have a 360, but as you know, HD-DVD lost and I happen to get the dreaded R3ROD.

No regrets though, but I felt a breath of fresh air was needed, and I went with the PS3. So far all I can say is its better in terms of hardware and the upcoming games are great (MGS4, LBP, FF13, GOW3).

In short, just get the console you feel compels you to buy and no point blasting about it. Life is too short and there's too many great games to play.

I am NOT a fanboy of either, just a regular Joe Six Game posting some POV.

Cheers.
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Kids fight is like that,
Kid A said: My MGS4 is the best game in 2008.
KId B said: Nah, this game is suck, give me also i dun wan lah.
Kid A said: U wan me also dun want give u.
Kid B said: When i said i wan, i dun wan.
Kid A said: I throw it to the sea also dun wan give u lah.
Kid B said: U give me, me throw it to my dog eat loh.
Kid A said: Fxxx u, u idiot.
Kid B said: tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif .

Ha.... this more like kid fight in the kid forum.


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Games should be the main reason for you to decide on the console. If you like more games on a particular console then just get those machines.

Nowadays there much more visibility on the games upcoming on WHICH platform (80%-90% will be on both) and some exclusives.

If you're also the movie watching type, then perhaps Blu-Ray is the only choice now, I used to watch HD-DVDs and have a 360, but as you know, HD-DVD lost and I happen to get the dreaded R3ROD.

No regrets though, but I felt a breath of fresh air was needed, and I went with the PS3. So far all I can say is its better in terms of hardware and the upcoming games are great (MGS4, LBP, FF13, GOW3).

In short, just get the console you feel compels you to buy and no point blasting about it. Life is too short and there's too many great games to play.

I am NOT a fanboy of either, just a regular Joe Six Game posting some POV.

Cheers.
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I agreed what u said, just play the game u want.
But this thread is still with title name as PS3 vs Xbox360. Change the title name or close the thread.

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ok to make it easy, if u think 360 its ur choice then go to 360...if ps3 then go to ps3....as far as im concern 360 hardware far better then previous & last longer too...

ps3 fans always used 3rod issue to said their console lot better,and 360 fans sometimes used lens probs etc. to ps3 gamers to said their console bla bla bla...

to make it positive...just talk bout the good thing bout both consoles...no need to attack here and there...its ur money...u know which one for u..

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Jun 9 2008, 08:35 AM)
ok to make it easy, if u think 360 its ur choice then go to 360...if ps3 then go to ps3....as far as im concern 360 hardware far better then previous & last longer too...

ps3 fans always used 3rod issue to said their console lot better,and 360 fans sometimes used lens probs etc. to ps3 gamers to said their console bla bla bla...

to make it positive...just talk bout the good thing bout both consoles...no need to attack here and there...its ur money...u know which one for u..
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Ya, why not we just play our game, share the game experience. Not show that my console can do what, got what, this what kids do like alot.
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jun 9 2008, 06:15 AM)
OK, sry....  if  u said about government's failure, then me sure support u one. So how is ur xbox360 now?
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U mean my friends' X360? well, one of them sold his X360 for about 8000yen (like RM250) and another friend played his oversea imported GTA4 for like a few mission and covered his machine with dust until GOW2 launch.
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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Jun 9 2008, 10:24 AM)
U mean my friends' X360? well, one of them sold his X360 for about 8000yen (like RM250) and another friend played his oversea imported GTA4 for like a few mission and covered his machine with dust until GOW2 launch.
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Thats why i said is ur friend problem, it is everyone xbox360 got this problem.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 9 2008, 03:15 AM)
lowyat.net was actually an adult forum? shocking.gif
all this time i thought it had always been a kid's forum
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sure it is. at least for this thread la. basically all this fanboy war comes because mummy only will buy one console for kid, so he has to choose only one. He better choose the more popular/cool/trendy one or he's screwed! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jun 9 2008, 10:29 AM)
Thats why i said is ur friend problem, it is everyone xbox360 got this problem.
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ehem... u said we need PROOF right?
yes, it's my friends problem. but it IS also the reason that makes me think X360 sucks @ss.

In case you are going to asking me not to criticize on something that you're not actually own one, let me just put it this way:

Are you going to buy a product which you already have a solid proof that it's a complete failure from your nearest friend?

or

After 2 of your friends got food poisoning after eating in certain restaurant, you're not stupid enough to go to that restaurant again right?

Cheers

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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Jun 9 2008, 11:10 AM)
ehem... u said we need PROOF right?
yes, it's my friends problem. but it IS also the reason that makes me think X360 sucks @ss.

In case you are going to asking me not to criticize on something that you're not actually own one, let me just put it this way:

Are you going to buy a product which you already have a solid proof that it's a complete failure from your nearest friend?

or

After 2 of your friends got food poisoning after eating in certain restaurant, you're not stupid enough to go to that restaurant again right?

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So please, u no need go out anymore, stay at home, bcoz outside got more than 10k ppl die bcoz die by accident and kill by the robber in 1 year.

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ok anybody let me pinjam their xbox360 n i pinjam my ps3.. we be fren..frenn.. ok..! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wandiana @ Jun 9 2008, 11:45 AM)
ok anybody let me pinjam their xbox360 n i pinjam my ps3.. we be fren..frenn.. ok..!  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Jun 9 2008, 11:10 AM)
ehem... u said we need PROOF right?
yes, it's my friends problem. but it IS also the reason that makes me think X360 sucks @ss.

In case you are going to asking me not to criticize on something that you're not actually own one, let me just put it this way:

Are you going to buy a product which you already have a solid proof that it's a complete failure from your nearest friend?

or

After 2 of your friends got food poisoning after eating in certain restaurant, you're not stupid enough to go to that restaurant again right?

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Sorry dude, u know me from another forum,

Other's recommendation do not convince me.

What convince me is that the company did improved a defective design & IT WORKS!

So, PS3's lens didn't work well from batch to batchbut occurance rate is low; The Falcon & latest DVD drive's failure rate is quite consistant from global leading gaming site's feedback, but added up from previous generation, the feilure rate is quite high.

However, even with all the research, there's no guarantee that they'll work for you, or me

So, which to choose? For me, the best bang of the buck is the game that make me happy.

Dude, just try to be rationale when posting in a Public forum. I've tried my best to be so.

Buying a gaming system is like choosing a wife, like it or not, even with defect. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(bem69 @ Jun 9 2008, 01:59 AM)
Just to inform you guys, I'm the owner of the Elite falcon that 3ROD on me. Can't remember what the error code was, but it died in 6 months. All I can say is, not even with a falcon you are safe from Microsoft's design fault. I'm pretty sure that my Elite had great ventilation, it was sitting close to an aircond and there was plenty of room for the fans to push air out.
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ohhh so IMPROVE ... good job M$... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(samurai20 @ Jun 9 2008, 05:05 PM)
ohhh so IMPROVE ... good job M$...  thumbup.gif
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Do not immediately drop the charge....

Early generation of Elites are not using Falcon motherboard but instead a generation older Zephyr motherboard.. elites with those boards are merely old xbox bundled with HDMI & 120Gb HDD doh.gif

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maybe i give u pic la..

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OMG.. falcon unit... using x-clamp to repair after hit by 3ROD... laugh.gif.. so IMPROVE...

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QUOTE(samurai20 @ Jun 9 2008, 05:37 PM)
maybe i give u pic la..

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OMG.. falcon unit... using x-clamp to repair after hit by 3ROD... laugh.gif.. so IMPROVE...
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You're showing "the one & only" Djinn's warranty unit?

Where's the 3RRoD? I see green ppower only la! & if the failure rate is high on Falcon, where's others?

Aiyo.....nak perbesarkan kes pergilah Protest the oil price! doh.gif

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That pic AFTER repair la... aiyo.... doh.gif .. cakap betul sama dinding ... shakehead.gif .. wat ever it is for me FALCON still kena 3ROD... i just want to show u that FALCON pun still kena one... depend on ur luck... that all.. anyway.. feel kinda stupid post here... doh.gif... better stay away from this thread ... bye-bye to all fanboy.... yawn.gif

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Why dun send it for claim.... this one is mod machine???


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That pic AFTER repair la... aiyo.... doh.gif ..  cakap betul sama dinding ... shakehead.gif .. wat ever it is for me FALCON still kena 3ROD... that it.... bye - bye FANBOY...
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LOL, fanboy apa lah....this not ur falcon xbox360, right??? I still remember u have post the pic at the xbox360 section, right??? My xbox360 already 2 years now, got few time 2rod few month ago but until now still not die yet, i switch it on 4 days with GTAIV without shutdown it also no problem..... this is luck lah.....not all PS3 got lens problem, not all Xbox360 got heat issue. Fair.... Game still important.... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(samurai20 @ Jun 9 2008, 05:52 PM)
That pic AFTER repair la... aiyo.... doh.gif ..  cakap betul sama dinding ... shakehead.gif .. wat ever it is for me FALCON still kena 3ROD... i just want to show u that FALCON pun still kena one... depend on ur luck... that all.. anyway.. feel kinda stupid post here... doh.gif... better stay away from this thread ... bye-bye to all fanboy.... yawn.gif
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What i wanan tell you is everyone knows falcon is not completely immune to 3RRoD, but they're less likely to occur nowadays on falcon.

Paham tak?

Afterall, gaming is more important, not the console. doh.gif

Will you "change" yur wife just because she's not perfect? icon_idea.gif

Now I should tell you what typical fanboy's act, the said person will defend his beloved system in whatsoever means including denying all shortcoming on the defended systems are naturay occured & keep on stressing on very age old shortcoming on the rival systems.

Just like: denying PS3 1st batch overheating problem and up-to-now lens problem by blaming "it's the user problem". cmon, ppl won't simply use PS3 to play ahem DVD as china DVD player cost less than RM90 and even if they really did, it just shows that the PS3 lens is more fragile than cheap DVD player. think about it -- PS3 & Bluray got no ahem copied.

XBOX360 still have 3RRoD problem. but the occurance rate is lower compared to pre-falcon xbox unit. Ask Djinn as he's reputable for xbox problem.


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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 9 2008, 05:03 PM)
Sorry dude, u know me from another forum,

Other's recommendation do not convince me.

What convince me is that the company did improved a defective design & IT WORKS!

So, PS3's lens didn't work well from batch to batchbut occurance rate is low; The Falcon & latest DVD drive's failure rate is quite consistant from global leading gaming site's feedback, but added up from previous generation, the feilure rate is quite high.

However, even with all the research, there's no guarantee that they'll work for you, or me

So, which to choose? For me, the best bang of the buck is the game that make me happy.

Dude, just try to be rationale when posting in a Public forum. I've tried my best to be so.

Buying a gaming system is like choosing a wife, like it or not, even with defect. thumbup.gif
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Dude, when did I act irrational?
if you followed my post, you should know that I'm just trying to express my though about the console.
If the product is bad, why can't I criticize it?
Just that some fanboy couldn't get over it when his favorite console being criticized.
like SS said, don't judge something without proof.
But when I share my stories about how my Japanese friends experienced the 3ROD and DVD-ROM problem here,
he couldn't face it and fire me back like secondary school kid...

maybe I should quit this thread like samurai20 do, I'm tired of those fanboy who cannot accept truth even people shown their proof...


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apekebenda duk support bertekak pasal menda yang remeh temeh.ni sumer mengarut je.sumer nak jadi fanboy konon.macam sony atau microsoft bagi share je jd fanboy.belilah barangan buatan malaysia
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No one can ask someone go in or go out inside this thread, so anyone still can said what they like to said, share is good, but share with the right way.
Anyway at this forum still got the rules, so dun forget it.
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Fuyoohh ...thread ni lagi hebat dari EURO lah laugh.gif laugh.gif
Kalo Debat kat stadium gerenti full haous kan kan..

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jun 9 2008, 08:31 PM)
Fuyoohh ...thread ni lagi hebat dari EURO lah laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Kalo Debat kat stadium gerenti full haous kan kan..
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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 9 2008, 06:22 PM)
What i wanan tell you is everyone knows falcon is not completely immune to 3RRoD, but they're less likely to occur nowadays on falcon.

Paham tak?

Afterall, gaming is more important, not the console. doh.gif

Will you "change" yur wife just because she's not perfect? icon_idea.gif

Now I should tell you what typical fanboy's act, the said person will defend his beloved system in whatsoever means including denying all shortcoming on the defended systems are naturay occured & keep on stressing on very age old shortcoming on the rival systems.

Just like: denying PS3 1st batch overheating problem and up-to-now lens problem by blaming "it's the user problem". cmon, ppl won't simply use PS3 to play ahem DVD as china DVD player cost less than RM90 and even if they really did, it just shows that the PS3 lens is more fragile than cheap DVD player. think about it -- PS3 & Bluray got no ahem copied.

XBOX360 still have 3RRoD problem. but the occurance rate is lower compared to pre-falcon xbox unit. Ask Djinn as he's reputable for xbox problem.
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If you ask me:
Xbox 360 - is for online gameplay( it brings the level of intimacy and
togetherness among online players to a new level) trust me on this!!!

PS3-is for single player(offline game) and Blue ray player

So the verdict, buy bothe consoles.................Happy ending rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
Both consoles are fun but not perfect (3rod, lens problem)
But i tend to lean towards the 360 coz of the superb onlline gaming and functionality
Dun flame me, this is just my 2cents opinion biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(almattitude_v1 @ Jun 9 2008, 08:41 PM)
LOL! dont talk abt other ppl being fanboy la... u compare console to ur wife makes u the biggest fanboy there is...
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Just close this thread and get back to the games that matters the most to you!

You buy the consoles for the games, not fanboyism. To all the haters, your own console got defects too.

Try this game instead: Living My Life.
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QUOTE(almattitude_v1 @ Jun 9 2008, 08:41 PM)
LOL! dont talk abt other ppl being fanboy la... u compare console to ur wife makes u the biggest fanboy there is...
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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Jun 9 2008, 07:39 PM)
Dude, when did I act irrational?
if you followed my post, you should know that I'm just trying to express my though about the console.
If the product is bad, why can't I criticize it?
Just that some fanboy couldn't get over it when his favorite console being criticized.
like SS said, don't judge something without proof.
But when I share my stories about how my Japanese friends experienced the 3ROD and DVD-ROM problem here,
he couldn't face it and fire me back like secondary school kid...

maybe I should quit this thread like samurai20 do, I'm tired of those fanboy who cannot accept truth even people shown their proof...
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if thats so...what should I say.... Thanks for sharing?
Am I right if what your mention is "once it's bad, it's bad forever"?

QUOTE(almattitude_v1 @ Jun 9 2008, 08:41 PM)
LOL! dont talk abt other ppl being fanboy la... u compare console to ur wife makes u the biggest fanboy there is...
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i don hv wife....yet..... whistling.gif

my point is, don't critisize others, it'll make ppl angry. You can say I'm a fanboy for xb360..... but I'm still going for PS3 for MSG4. icon_idea.gif

You don like the rival? fine, just tell your friend. not here.
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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 9 2008, 08:55 PM)
if thats so...what should I say.... Thanks for sharing?
Am I right if what your mention is "once it's bad, it's bad forever"?
i don hv wife....yet..... whistling.gif

my point is, don't critisize others, it'll make ppl angry. You can say I'm a fanboy for xb360..... but I'm still going for PS3 for MSG4. icon_idea.gif

You don like the rival? fine, just tell your friend. not here.
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Their friend all also the biggest fanboy lah. I dun understand what make them envy about other console, until came out critic the console.
Anyway me also suggest to close this thread, me already lazy serve those fanboy . whistling.gif

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and the war goes on and on and on and on and on.....
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peace to all console owner.dont let emotion control u all.just live in peace or die in anger.just deal for what u have n enjoy for what u accomplish.best tak poetry aku
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Lepas rendam dalam air pun bole pakai lagi.

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QUOTE(azmirhere @ Jun 9 2008, 09:17 PM)
aik.bini pun leh jadi bahan debat.hebat sungguh orang malaysia.penuh dengan azam.bab kata pakLah.'Polis kaTa JangaN'
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Pois kata jangan aper?


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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jun 9 2008, 09:35 PM)
Their friend all also the biggest fanboy lah. I dun understand what make them envy about other console, until came out critic the console.
Anyway me also suggest to close this thread, me already lazy serve those fanboy .  whistling.gif
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that's their problem. as long as they do not "pollute" potential new gamers.


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And the winner Isss....

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Lepas rendam dalam air pun bole pakai lagi.
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The war is over la....just look at the votes la...... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(neoardi @ Jun 9 2008, 10:29 PM)
The war is over la....just look at the votes la...... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(jeerie @ Jun 9 2008, 10:37 PM)
hapekebender la korang nih....
"lu punya nasik lu makan, gua punyer nasik gua makan, ape salahnyer kite makan same2"
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jun 9 2008, 10:40 PM)
U mean the ghost votes??  whistling.gif
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ghost votes? my gawd! do u mean the 90% of the votes for xbox360? what the hell is happening to our lovely and peaceful commmunity? tongue.gif

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its fun to watch fanboyism flaming each and other biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sieg_wahrheit @ Jun 9 2008, 10:58 PM)
ghost votes? my gawd! do u mean the 90% of the votes for xbox360? what the hell is happening to our lovely and peaceful commmunity?  tongue.gif
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.......ghost vote or not...the sales of games tells it all... (since someone suggest that xbox system sales is high due to high failure rate...so games sales make better figure)

anyone to have such info? but I sure both system bowed down to Wii. icon_idea.gif

from forum to forum the popularity to the system is different,
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Nintendo studied the market 'cleverly'...... Microsoft studied the market 'urgently'.... Sony studied the market 'comfortably' (to themselves)... but late in execution...
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 9 2008, 03:15 AM)
lowyat.net was actually an adult forum? shocking.gif
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please dont fight with each other , we are gamer 1st then only we are divided by the console we like/use. both system sure got their own weakness and strength. when i hv enough money , im gonna buy xbox360 too just for the heck of it. i got ps3 1st is because i hv things that i got to do on it ie play ff series. as the thread title says - you decide what is best for you. not other ppl . i be damn if someone told me to do things that i dont want. same goes for everyone right ? so peace la weih , we already hv enough war around the world already. here also want war for what.
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yeah, and the thread title need to be change to "Console Truce :Ps3 loVeS Xbox360" yeah..that sounded right rclxms.gif
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MS pandai do bussiness leh,3rod also can out book.

This book sell for US23.95.
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QUOTE(Gahleon @ Jun 10 2008, 01:14 PM)
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MS pandai do bussiness leh,3rod also can out book.

This book sell for US23.95.
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XBOX360 rules!!! PS3 ok lah
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 11 2008, 01:57 PM)
XBOX360 rules!!!  PS3 ok lah
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 11 2008, 02:57 PM)
XBOX360 rules!!!  PS3 ok lah
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Be gentlemen lah guys, if u guys think that guy is just a kid, then please stop reply his post, let him it alone, lets this thread drop into the abyss.

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gladly ps3 owners can enjoy FF13, KILLZONE2 while 360'ers just watching vids on youtube.. haha..
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then is it glad 360 owners can enjoy gears of wars, halo, while ps3'ers just watching vids on youtube..

lol. just teasing there.
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Jun 11 2008, 02:38 PM)
gladly ps3 owners can enjoy FF13, KILLZONE2 while 360'ers just watching vids on youtube.. haha..
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PS3 owners can only talk about games they will eventually play or eventually get disappointed. Just look at Haze, and what is the game with flying dragons that you control with the sixaxis? Don't even bother to remember the name thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Jun 11 2008, 02:38 PM)
gladly ps3 owners can enjoy FF13, KILLZONE2 while 360'ers just watching vids on youtube.. haha..
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Tread close..... Stop this topic since this was same as previous discussion.. just decide depends on your flavour and your pocket.. stop to flame for both console.. play as ur wish... Happy gaming...
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 11 2008, 03:07 PM)
PS3 owners can only talk about games they will eventually play or eventually get disappointed.  Just look at Haze,  and what is the game with flying dragons that you control with the sixaxis? Don't even bother to remember the name thumbup.gif
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LAIR,you mean.
i love it.
the demo's awesome thumbup.gif

didnt bother with the analog controls,either tongue.gif sixaxis is much more engaging
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http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArt...cleID=208403010

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jun 12 2008, 01:05 AM)
Ya, the news indeed makes sense. Microsoft is not a hardware company. Plus, they wanted to bypass ATi because they didn't like the nVidia's deal in xbox last time.
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Makan sorang lepas tu ceret pun sorang.Kasihan si monyet ye.
Tapi tak pe M$ Kaye..
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Cakap banyak buat ape, main lah game kita ade sekarang, pasal kita tak tau bila kita bila akan meninggal dunia ni. Tak kan dunia lain kita masin boleh lawan siapa punya console lagi bagus, hidup lawan mati pun nak lawan kah laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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lol..so much flames...still just got my self an xbox360 since my brother already got ps3 last week but damn i may say both are not quite to my expectation which i been playing in pc gaming quite for sometimes and seeing the xbox360 and ps3 visual doesnt give me the wow factor..maybe i ve been too long with pc i guess where everything such a nice visual...
anyway based on testing on both system well my verdict goes to ps3 since it is more capable hardware and visually on some games slightly better on 360 but still lower then pc(1920x1200)
so ps3 with its own value of blu ray plus hardware advantage over xbox360..
anyway just love the xbox360 controller coz its work flawlessly on my pc via usb wireless receiver...

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the world dah offer banyak console.so be grateful la.takan nak satu jenis console je dalam dunia ni.kan best kita hidup dalam business yang ada perfect competition
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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Jun 15 2008, 11:29 PM)
lol..so much flames...still just got my self an xbox360 since my brother already got ps3 last week but damn i may say both are not quite to my expectation which i been playing in pc gaming quite for sometimes and seeing the xbox360 and ps3 visual doesnt give me the wow factor..maybe i ve been too long with pc i guess where everything such a nice visual...
anyway based on testing on both system well my verdict goes to ps3 since it is more capable hardware and visually on some games slightly better on 360 but still lower then pc(1920x1200)
so ps3 with its own value of blu ray plus hardware advantage over xbox360..
anyway just love the xbox360 controller coz its work flawlessly on my pc via usb wireless receiver...
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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Jun 15 2008, 11:29 PM)
lol..so much flames...still just got my self an xbox360 since my brother already got ps3 last week but damn i may say both are not quite to my expectation which i been playing in pc gaming quite for sometimes and seeing the xbox360 and ps3 visual doesnt give me the wow factor..maybe i ve been too long with pc i guess where everything such a nice visual...
anyway based on testing on both system well my verdict goes to ps3 since it is more capable hardware and visually on some games slightly better on 360 but still lower then pc(1920x1200)
so ps3 with its own value of blu ray plus hardware advantage over xbox360..
anyway just love the xbox360 controller coz its work flawlessly on my pc via usb wireless receiver...
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you'r comparing with crysis? brows.gif

well...the advantage for console is that they have exclusive title, less prone to internet or virus attack & comparing hardwares....they're cheaper.

and FYI, the advantage on the PS3 is the innovative cell processor which have a very high FLOPS count compared to xbox360. But at the same time, xbox360 have a definate advantage on graphic processing power. A very good example is on some japs title such as 360's RR6 & PS3's RR7 while frankly speaking the western game title look very similar except some hardly noticeable better texture on 360 & brighter screen on PS3.....

I hope this comment wont have a crown of fanboyism... whistling.gif
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^ ya but the point remains that how super is the xbox360 graphic , made in heaven also it wont play any ff games which i am into. so the fact that i bought a ps even not to mention 1 2 or 3 la , just ps la , is for ff , mgs and such is just bonus. so for me to compare the 2 console like hell also wont change my mind or make me regret my ps3.

remember we are call GAMERS and not consolers. play the game not the console.

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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Jun 16 2008, 08:54 AM)
^  ya but the point remains that how super is the xbox360 graphic , made in heaven also it wont play any ff games which i am into.  so the fact that i bought a ps even not to mention 1 2 or 3  la ,  just  ps la , is for ff ,  mgs and such is just bonus.      so for me to compare the 2 console like hell also wont change my mind or make me regret my ps3.

remember  we are call GAMERS and not consolers.  play the game not the console.
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I think he is not trying change ur mind or anyone else mind, anyone can get what console they want.
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jun 16 2008, 09:20 AM)
I think he is not trying change ur mind or anyone else mind, anyone can get what console they want.
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i know he is not trying to do that , if u look at my sentence , im talking about me comparing the 2 console, not everybody else. i dont need this thread to compare the 2 console, ive done that before i bought my choice. ( ok so my comparison is just down to which console plays ff , deciding in less then 2 second to buy a ps3 is like a no brainer anyway. )
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its seems that mostly the game on xbox 360 can be found on the pc. no?
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QUOTE(iamzacky @ Jun 16 2008, 10:39 AM)
its seems that mostly the game on xbox 360 can be found on the pc. no?
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Ya, u r right, mostly the game on pc also can be found on Xbox360/PS3. So please spend sometime that u should try to get more information which game will not release on PC from Xbox360, example like Ninja Gaiden 2.
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imho even so the game can also be found on pc , that doesnt change the fact that xbox360 is a great machine.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 11 2008, 03:07 PM)
PS3 owners can only talk about games they will eventually play or eventually get disappointed.  Just look at Haze,  and what is the game with flying dragons that you control with the sixaxis? Don't even bother to remember the name thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Jun 15 2008, 11:29 PM)
lol..so much flames...still just got my self an xbox360 since my brother already got ps3 last week but damn i may say both are not quite to my expectation which i been playing in pc gaming quite for sometimes and seeing the xbox360 and ps3 visual doesnt give me the wow factor..maybe i ve been too long with pc i guess where everything such a nice visual...
anyway based on testing on both system well my verdict goes to ps3 since it is more capable hardware and visually on some games slightly better on 360 but still lower then pc(1920x1200)
so ps3 with its own value of blu ray plus hardware advantage over xbox360..
anyway just love the xbox360 controller coz its work flawlessly on my pc via usb wireless receiver...
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Yes, PC games looks better, but how much is a gaming PC that can let you display Crysis at high quality setting @ 1920 x 1200?

It cost you 3 to 4 times more than the console itself and that is not a fair comparison at all.

Most PC gamers claim that PC graphics are better but the real facts is that most PC gamers are playing at a setting that is worst than the console.


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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 16 2008, 07:48 AM)
and FYI, the advantage on the PS3 is the innovative cell processor which have a very high FLOPS count compared to xbox360. But at the same time, xbox360 have a definate advantage on graphic processing power. A very good example is on some japs title such as 360's RR6 & PS3's RR7 while frankly speaking the western game title look very similar except some hardly noticeable better texture on 360 & brighter screen on PS3.....

I hope this comment wont have a crown of fanboyism... whistling.gif
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All the number mean absolutely nothing. In the end is the real world game performances that count. Just released MGS4 seems to put PS3 at the top of graphic crown, but most game cross platform games still look better and run smoother on the 360.

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100% fix RROD then I'll vote back for 360s. Right now, I'm a happy no worry PS3 gamer.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 16 2008, 12:42 PM)

Added on June 16, 2008, 12:47 pm

All the number mean absolutely nothing.  In the end is the real world game performances that count.  Just released MGS4 seems to put PS3 at the top of graphic crown, but most game cross platform games still look better and run smoother on the 360.
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goes to show how bad some developers are on the ps3 laugh.gif
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verdict is buy both (if can), coz both also got it's advantages

PS3 - free online, blu ray, MGS 4, FF, Killzone 2

XB 360 - Gears of War, Halo, got jack sparrow mah !!!

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Forza 3 rumoured to have 2 dvds....

Wow.

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 16 2008, 12:42 PM)
Yes, PC games looks better, but how much is a gaming PC that can let you display Crysis at high quality setting @ 1920 x 1200?

It cost you 3 to 4 times more than the console itself and that is not a fair comparison at all.

Most PC gamers claim that PC graphics are better but the real facts is that most PC gamers are playing at a setting that is worst than the console.


Added on June 16, 2008, 12:47 pm

All the number mean absolutely nothing.  In the end is the real world game performances that count.  Just released MGS4 seems to put PS3 at the top of graphic crown, but most game cross platform games still look better and run smoother on the 360.
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QUOTE(NeedForSpeedz @ Jun 16 2008, 02:05 PM)
verdict is buy both (if can), coz both also got it's advantages

PS3 - free online, blu ray, MGS 4, FF, Killzone 2

XB 360 - Gears of War, Halo, got pirated mah !!!

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QUOTE(navigator @ Jun 16 2008, 07:48 AM)
you'r comparing with crysis? brows.gif
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 16 2008, 12:42 PM)
Yes, PC games looks better, but how much is a gaming PC that can let you display Crysis at high quality setting @ 1920 x 1200?

It cost you 3 to 4 times more than the console itself and that is not a fair comparison at all.

Most PC gamers claim that PC graphics are better but the real facts is that most PC gamers are playing at a setting that is worst than the console.
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did i mention about cost factor?i dont think so..well most pc gamers but certainly not me..i always crank up to max setting..like i said before i own 360 and my bro who lives in the same house own ps3...so my opinion is just that on graphical term which i dont really care for cost..power to power and did you properly read that whatever also my vote goes to ps3 because the blu ray capabilities and because of its hardware technology slightly advantage to xbox360..
you dont need to be such in defensive mode...invest in all system and tell me what you think after that,and again im telling you not to involve cost factor in it(pc hardware,xbox 360 live point,ps3 games) now all that is of course if you want to debate about price/performance.
and if your heading that direction of price/performance ratio i think better not call yourself a gamers then,invest in what you like to the max,it as simple as that, surely most of the gamers here is a working adults right??i cant imagine to ask parent for money to buy games.. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

BTW look at the poll title did it ever mention to you that price/performance ratio there?? doh.gif
so as i said again without the cost factor ps3 won my vote because there is no option for pc,because for me im very simple i go for the best graphic/visual,anyway this is a poll rite? where i should be voting and have my right to express my opinion freely??


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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jun 16 2008, 02:24 AM)
Actually, it depends when do u start playing ps3 or x360. If u started early (during launching year), they were both better than PC's capability. But if you joined later or now, it's not as impressive anymore....
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hmmm well on this point i have to agree with you..

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don mention the Pixxxe word....plz... doh.gif
ops.. sorre..

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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Jun 16 2008, 05:57 PM)
did i mention about cost factor?i dont think so..well most pc gamers but certainly not me..i always crank up to max setting..like i said before i own 360 and my bro who lives in the same house own ps3...so my opinion is just that on graphical term which i dont really care for cost..power to power and did you properly read that whatever also my vote goes to ps3 because the blu ray capabilities and because of its hardware technology slightly advantage to xbox360..
you dont need to be such in defensive mode...invest in all system and tell me what you think after that,and again im telling you not to involve cost factor in it(pc hardware,xbox 360 live point,ps3 games) now all that is of course if you want to debate about price/performance.
and if your heading that direction of price/performance ratio i think better not call yourself a gamers then,invest in what you like to the max,it as simple as that, surely most of the gamers here is a working adults right??i cant imagine to ask parent for money to buy games.. shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

BTW look at the poll title did it ever mention to you that price/performance ratio there??  doh.gif 
so as i said again without the cost factor ps3 won my vote because there is no option for pc,because for me im very simple i go for the best graphic/visual,anyway this is a poll rite? where i should be voting and have my right to express my opinion freely??
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Dude, you must be one hell of a wealthy guy.....but in MY (AND this is Malaysian forum) cost is everything...... whistling.gif

most of the ppl stop playing game also due to cost.....

I stopped PC gaming due to never ending upgrade cost even though game titles are chepest and you have the option to play cheap ahem game but remember, playing ahem game is stealing other's property and risking you machine vulnerable to attacks doh.gif

even though I'm product specialist for an It company, I'm not savvy enough to keep buying several thousands of hardware/software upgrade & format my PC just to make sure I'm not left behind in 3Dmark Vantage and can play every game for Windows.... and the best part they do not always guarranty I'll get the best graphic. I still rememer the day I upgraded my PC for a game and found out that my graphic card DRAM is not sufficient enough to run ultra quality texture. doh.gif

I'm still getting stunning visual from console and not breaking the bank. I get exclusive title for console. I still an play online games. On highest setting, visual difference from most of the hits title like GRiD, CoD is negligible for PS3, xbox360 and PC.

even M$ said PC will move away slowly from gaming.

This is my opinion after changing clan from PC to console. My last graphic card upgrade can buy me 12 xbox360 game title.

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QUOTE(aaron5829 @ Jun 16 2008, 04:16 PM)
Forza 3 rumoured to have 2 dvds....

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PS2 GT2 also have 2 disc, nothing be wrong for racing game, anyway this just a rumour.
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mana ada GT2 for PS2. It was PSOne. apa daa.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jun 17 2008, 03:44 PM)
mana ada GT2 for PS2. It was PSOne. apa daa.
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this war will never end man.. my all time favourite bioshock comin to ps3 i damn happy di... dont hv to go buy another console... YET. hahahaaha.

PC also not enuff power to play.. jus lacking a good graphics card.

but will mis games like halo, crysis and that alien bio lesbian rpg thingy.
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QUOTE(eone @ Jun 16 2008, 01:35 PM)
100% fix RROD then I'll vote back for 360s. Right now, I'm a happy no worry PS3 gamer.
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is the new xbox with falcon chip 3ROD free? my first 360 console kaput last yr, might wana consider a 2nd one if it's fixed

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